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This is a case where "free" isnt always better ;)

So I've been in the process of moving to an apartment complex and one of the things included in rent is satellite TV....and its the "good" stuff ;)
But its through a 3rd party company called "Access Media 3" (they bundle internet, D* and phone for apartment complexes....here its just D*)
So as part of my rent I would get Choice package and up to 4 SD receivers for free (well $50 install and obviously the $6 extra receiver fee if I had more than one)

BUT if you wanted "more" it will cost ya
$99 for a DVR or HD receiver
$199 for HD DVR (2 tuner)

plus the $8 DVR fee and $10 HD if you had them....so for $18 a month I'd get a 2 tuner DVR and pay $250 up front. If I wanted Choice Xtra (which I have now) it would be $18 more a month (dont ask thats what it says in the brochure)

So once I got all settled I started hooking up the HR34 to the outlets trying to see maybe if D* was already wired.....well I was down to the last jack. Hooked up HR34 and did a master reset. Says "searching for satellite" and BOOM
SWM5+95W

Downloaded the guide and I was good to go :) All 5 tuners work
Since I have credits my bill is only like $35-40 a month so it may cost me a little more over a years time...but the 5 tuners make up for it and the package I currently get is better (it would cost me less if I compared same programming package) :)

What I am wondering and maybe an installer knows about MDU setups....I am shocked that all 5 tuners work. I looked in the basement (garage) and there is oodles of wires running everywhere and there are lock boxes on the D* stuff. There is a cable box for parts of the complex and I found the 2 cables that say my apartment number. One is hooked into the Comcast taps (we get free lifeline as part of rent) and the other is barreled connected to a line that runs to one of the locked boxes. Since this 3rd party company only uses 2 tuner DVR's I assume the MDU setup its not like "each section only allows 8 channels" like a residential setup would be rather its just a bunch of channels so that when you get equipment it doesnt have to worry what you're hooking up?
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digiblur
And I would say oh well play dumb and let them deal with it and fix it.

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And I would say oh well play dumb and let them deal with it and fix it.

Sent from a little old Note 2

Because of the way SWM works, it's a real mess to diagnose and fix. It can seem to be working most of the time, if some of the tuners are on the same transponder. And hopefully the installer used BSFs to avoid two apartments being on the same whole-home network.
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Because of the way SWM works, it's a real mess to diagnose and fix. It can seem to be working most of the time, if some of the tuners are on the same transponder. And hopefully the installer used BSFs to avoid two apartments being on the same whole-home network.

Highly unlikely they are using WHDVR.
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yeah last night it recorded 5 shows just fine

its weird...all i can see downstairs outside of the locked boxes is what looks like a 6x8 multiswitch (but again its SWM) and a sh*tload of 4 way satellite splitters. Again once I find my camera I'll take some pics. Since there is people in the garage most of the day I guess I'll wait til like 3AM when I'm up...and then take pictures :)
Hutch1814
Highly unlikely they are using WHDVR.

Actually, it is likely but the way most MDU's are wired is a slimline 5+95 which goes to a SWM32 from there they are normally branched from each 8 way to the said apartments. They are capable of having a complete whole home system if an actual MDU company installed it. Directv requires MDU installs to have pictures of just about everything so they're done right the first time. I would say the 5 tuners you're currently could use a little more company if you wanted to add them. I'm guessing 3 more :)
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The company that "manages" it is Access Media 3. That is who normally would bill me if I didnt have D* before I moved in and brought my HR34. Like I say they give you Choice package with rent. Its everything else that they charge up the wazoo
upgrade to Choice Xtra....$18.99 (through D* its what $5)
Ultimate...$23.99
Premiere..$70.99
$10 for HD (no discount)
$8 for DVR
4 SD receivers free
$99 for SD DVR or HD receiver
$199 for HD DVR
$50 install fee (yet all apartments are already wired up)

There are around 90 apartments in the complex so if you think everyone is set up for 4 tuners maybe 5 (a DVR and 3 receivers) thats a helluva lot of channels needed

But yeah its a SWM5 and a 95W dish (fair amount of Russians in the building so a Int'l dish was a wise idea for them) on the roof
Hutch1814
The company that "manages" it is Access Media 3. That is who normally would bill me if I didnt have D* before I moved in and brought my HR34. Like I say they give you Choice package with rent. Its everything else that they charge up the wazoo
upgrade to Choice Xtra....$18.99 (through D* its what $5)
Ultimate...$23.99
Premiere..$70.99
$10 for HD (no discount)
$8 for DVR
4 SD receivers free
$99 for SD DVR or HD receiver
$199 for HD DVR
$50 install fee (yet all apartments are already wired up)

There are around 90 apartments in the complex so if you think everyone is set up for 4 tuners maybe 5 (a DVR and 3 receivers) thats a helluva lot of channels needed

But yeah its a SWM5 and a 95W dish (fair amount of Russians in the building so a Int'l dish was a wise idea for them) on the roof

I'm betting everybody is set up for 8 tuners per appt. Daisy chained SWM32's is normally how its done with amps in line
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There are only a few items I found outside of the locked boxes

1st pic is obviously an amplifier
2nd pic shows the splitter that they use. There are a fair amount of them outside of the lock boxes. Maybe 10 or so hooked up (some only have one line hooked up) and 4 sitting there not hooked up. On one of the other junction boxes there is 6 or 7 more

Also I see some diplexers and triplexers in the bunch. Must be where they hook cable and satellite up to the one output. Guess in some cases its easier to wire them together. My apartment has 2 separate outlets. The part number for the triplexer is mdu3xfltr0-09 but some other diplexers look like the consumer ones (like what I used at one point at my house)

cant see any SWM parts anywhere so they must be hidden ;)
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No idea what improvements might be involved.
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Two bugs out and three new bugs in.🐞
Almighty1
Updated to H713 on a Hopper 3 from H712 with Hopper Plus a few hours earlier.

It brought a old problem back:

One of the problems I am seeing is that the Available Joey Software section no longer is showing the Android TV versions even after a manual software reset twice and the nightly reboot. Until it does, nether Technician Android TV download and Hopper Plus is able to check, download and update the Android TV software.

This was a major problem with H703.

H710 removed that dependency but it's broken again.

Rick Durham and brittanygarden
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Two bugs out and three new bugs in.🐞
Yep. Just got a call from a customer who said her DVR buttons stopped working. Told her about the new software and had her reboot her H3, problem solved.
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Updated to H713 on a Hopper 3 from H712 with Hopper Plus a few hours earlier.

It brought a old problem back:

One of the problems I am seeing is that the Available Joey Software section no longer is showing the Android TV versions even after a manual software reset twice and the nightly reboot. Until it does, nether Technician Android TV download and Hopper Plus is able to check, download and update the Android TV software.

This was a major problem with H703.

H710 removed that dependency but it's broken again.

Rick Durham and brittanygarden
i can still see my joey software version with H713.. i am starting to think it's time to get rid of the hopper plus. i just have 2 joey 4's and the hopper 3 with no issues. it seem like the people that have the hopper plus have issues!!!
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Almighty1
i can still see my joey software version with H713.. i am starting to think it's time to get rid of the hopper plus. i just have 2 joey 4's and the hopper 3 with no issues. it seem like the people that have the hopper plus have issues!!!
Are you talking about the Available Joey Software section which goes something like this:
Available Joey W153 W209 J613 J713 J813 K113 J913
Software
in H713 in diagnostics which is directly below the "Switch" section which is what I am referring to that should have a number starting with P which is needed for the
Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4
or the top area where it shows what the current version of the software is for the Hopper 3?

Seeing what your Joey 4/Wireless Joey 4 software version just tells you what is the current software version already installed, until the P version(s) shows up in "Available Joey Software" section which is different for the Hopper Plus, Joey 4, Wireless Joey 4 and it will only list one for the device(s) that exist in one's own configuration which lists what's the latest available, those devices will not be able to check or update their software as it will say "Failed: No Tgt" while "Download ATV Files" in TECHNICIAN SETTINGS under tools will respond with:
"Download ATV Files 3000
This device is not currently targeted for
Android software"
as both are dependent on the P version being listed in the "Available Joey Software" section. It usually takes a few minutes before it shows up. I know with H710-H712, it was not shown and the Download ATV Files worked except since H710, even if you selected everything shown which for me would be the Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4 versions, the first download will as a end result only download the Hopper Plus's versions even though it shows all three as downloaded based on what Available Joey Software shows which is always two P numbers P153 and P15317. After the first successful download, the next download will actually download all three and Available Joey Software will reflect that. In H708 (H709 was skipped as no one mentioned it on the forums) and earlier, it always downloaded everything selected and would show 6 P versions in the Available Joey Software area. The Available Joey Software section is how I tell if there is a newer software available for the Hopper Plus and when I see that, I do the Download ATV files first which is where I get my information to post in my other thread, "Latest available software version for Android TV devices - Hopper Plus, Joey 4, Wireless Joey 4". The Download ATV files does not do any install or update the Hopper Plus as I still need to manually hit Menu, Settings, Device Preferences, About, Software Update to update the software.

So with any new Hopper 3 software update, the first things I will check is the Notifications in Settings to see if any of the settings were reset. For the "Remote Control Mode Reminder" setting, I would try it with off, exit notifications then hit TV on the side of the remote to make sure it does not show the reminder before going to notifications andputting it back to on, exit to see if it works correctly before going back to notifications for the other settings. Then I would look at Available Joey Software and regardless if the 2 P versions, one appears to be the 3 digit major version number and the other is the full 5 digit number which is the 3 digit major version number with 2 more digits, exists or not. Attempt to do the Download ATV Software for all 3 Android TV devices Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4 until all of them is downloaded and shown in Available Joey Software which should be a total of 6 things added. If Download ATV Software has the no target like since H713, I will wait until I see a P version before I do it.

For reference, it's in the following threads:
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bookworm370
Yep. Just got a call from a customer who said her DVR buttons stopped working. Told her about the new software and had her reboot her H3, problem solved.
Reboot just fixes it for a short time and then it's back to messed up

Try going exclusively to an IR remote and you will see the pain
Almighty1
Updated to H713 on a Hopper 3 from H712 with Hopper Plus a few hours earlier.

It brought a old problem back:

One of the problems I am seeing is that the Available Joey Software section no longer is showing the Android TV versions even after a manual software reset twice and the nightly reboot. Until it does, nether Technician Android TV download and Hopper Plus is able to check, download and update the Android TV software.

This was a major problem with H703.

H710 removed that dependency but it's broken again.

Rick Durham and brittanygarden

Within the last few hours as I did check earlier today when it was still missing, the Available Joey Software line now has added "P154 P15403" which is for the Hopper Plus that I have but my Hopper Plus software is still on P15317, I will do a Download Android TV (ATV) Software for the Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey which are all Android TV devices and then manually do a check update on the Hopper Plus to update the software shortly.
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BatStang2000
This happened to me. I was outside mowing and my wife came out and said that our nieces and nephews were going to be on the Noon News. She had it on in the bedroom on our Joey3. Since they weren't on yet, I decided to turn it on in the Living Room on our Hopper3. When I selected the channel (through Dish, not OTA) the Joey3 turned itself off. When I went back to the bedroom to turn it back on, the Hopper3 did a reboot. Luckily it all finished before their story came on, but I just found it strange.
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Who says dinner or lunch has to be the only good meals of the day?

Honey butter grits with scrambled eggs and grilled boneless pork ribs on flakey biscuits washed down with cranberry juice.
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Bacon, eggs, hash browns and toast. Coffee.
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Wound up at the Waffle House this morning. Got the two egg breakfast with coffee.

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Speaking of waffles, I'm going to put my mini waffle iron on stove so I'll remember to make waffles in the morning... Had some last week, been awhile.
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Dos cackleberrys over easy on top of 2 corned beef hash patties fried in skillet... Chocolate milk.
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Cold morning today, only 32 degrees. Fired up the oven and made cinnamon rolls (from a tube) and a pot of coffee.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Five O'Clock World - The Vogues
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Somewhere - Barbra Streisand
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Continuing the Kilauea thread in the Pub here. Perhaps the Iceland one too next time there's remarkable activity.

Currently there is precursory lava flowing into the crater, leading to the next episode that'll probably start within the next day.

You can see the pace of inflation / deflation here. It serves as the primary predictor for when the expect the eruptions, which coincide w/ inflation turning into significant deflation and last for several hours on average with significant fountaining.



View: https://youtu.be/Uecu2seh4b4


Wife and I like the AfarTV feeds, for the discussion along w/ them, though they're otherwise just mirrors of the official USGS feeds.


View: https://youtu.be/iws3rh5vLAQ
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Oooo, quite the show now. All three vents have doming and overflows. The cone that built up around the North vent lost its upper quarter at 02:50 Oct 17 and is now spewing lava at a healthy rate. Don't know if I would say it's a fountain, but it's close.


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edit: The USGS has called the official start of Episode 55 as starting at 03:19 HST Oct 17, 2026:

Alert Level: WATCH, Color Code: ORANGE 2026-10-17 13:43:56 UTC
HVO/USGS Volcanic Activity Notice

Volcano: Kilauea (VNUM #332010)

Current Volcano Alert Level: WATCH
Current Aviation Color Code: ORANGE

Issued: Saturday, October 17, 2026, 3:43 AM HST
Source: Hawaiian Volcano Observatory
Notice Number: 2026/H488
Location: N 19 deg 25 min W 155 deg 17 min
Elevation: 4091 ft (1247 m)
Area: Hawaii

Summary: Episode 55 of the ongoing Halemaʻumaʻu eruption began at 3:19 AM HST on October 17, 2026.

Volcanic Activity:
Episode 55 of lava fountaining in Halemaʻumaʻu began at the summit of Kīlauea began at 3:19 AM HST on October 17, 2026.

Fountain heights are relatively low at about 100-150 feet (30-45 m), and it is not clear whether this episode will evolve to the same heights as previous episodes. Continuous overflows from the vents began yesterday, October 16, just before 6 a.m. HST and transitioned into episode 55 fountains at 3:19 a.m. HST this morning. The current forecast is for winds are blowing from the north-northeast direction, which suggests that volcanic gas emissions and volcanic material may be distributed to the south-southwest direction from Halemaʻumaʻu.
  • All eruptive vents and lava flows are confined to Halemaʻumaʻu crater within Hawaiʻi Volcanoes National Park. Tephra fall from volcanic ash clouds is greatest within 3 miles (5 km) of the vents, lighter ash and Pele's Hair may stay suspended for large distances from the vents.
Foxbat
Kīlauea seems to be returning to the "normal" eruption script, impressive fountaining from the North Vent. For once, the V2 Cam has the best overall shot:
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The lava flows have covered a good portion of the Halemaʻumaʻu crater floor.
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Since the Reds have there thread we should too!

Last watched Nine inch Nails
Next 3:10 to Yuma
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View: https://youtu.be/9j3vxhzM8MY?is=Rs1cY1FQAiRWi87i


Come September (1961)
Rock Hudson and Gina Lollobrigida with Sandra Dee and Bobby Darin
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Simple, charming. Entire premise is quite silly but Cary Grant carries it across the line in good fashion.
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Since it was already "paid" for, I spent the two hours of my time watching the John Cena action movie on Apple TV, "Matchbox The Movie" even though the reviews were brutal. It was better than I expected, so I didn't feel like I had wasted an afternoon watching it. But it felt like another "Reacher"/"Neghley"/"Mission: Impossible"/"Fast & Furious" crash and blow stuff up with lots of automatic gunfire mixed in movie featuring covert CIA operatives.

I don't think we'll get a follow-up movie from this. I expect Mattel will have other toy lines to exploit.
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Anyone making their own breakfast sausage? I've recently been trying different recipes, found some I like, some I've modified...
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Bob Evans Sage.
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Bob Evans Sage.
I will look, but I don't think I have seen it. Owen's breakfast sausage use to be favorite, but I can't find it anymore. Jimmy Dean's country mild is OK also when I can find it.
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Swaggerty's isn't too bad, sausage prices are lower per lb than making my own from pork butts right now so I've been buying JC Potter or Owen lately.
(Swaggerty's at Sam's is pre cut, I usually partially freeze the rolls and cut with my slicer and vacuum seal on parchment paper)
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I will look, but I don't think I have seen it. Owen's breakfast sausage use to be favorite, but I can't find it anymore. Jimmy Dean's country mild is OK also when I can find it.
amazon maybe :what
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I will look, but I don't think I have seen it. Owen's breakfast sausage use to be favorite, but I can't find it anymore. Jimmy Dean's country mild is OK also when I can find it.
owens on amazon is 54.99 for a 4 pk 16 oz a sausage. i feel that's kind of steep!!!
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Swaggerty's isn't too bad, sausage prices are lower per lb than making my own from pork butts right now so I've been buying JC Potter or Owen lately.
(Swaggerty's at Sam's is pre cut, I usually partially freeze the rolls and cut with my slicer and vacuum seal on parchment paper)
id'e rather make my own vs store bought.
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owens on amazon is 54.99 for a 4 pk 16 oz a sausage. i feel that's kind of steep!!!
Especially when I can get a two pound roll of Jimmy Dean from Sam's Club for $7.38.
dfergie
They run Owens at $3.99 for lb and $7.99 a couple times a month at some grocery stores here, I actually was wrong, just checked a pork sirloin roast it was $1.99 a lb. (cooked it yesterday so pack was in trash)
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