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Hey, I'm new to DISH and new to these forums. Recently we gave up Adelphia DVRs (which, with the few bugs were alright), but the quality was crap. DISH quality is much better, especially with the HD channels on our other receiver. Currently the problem I am having is with the 522 receiver. It has only happened once, but it seems reading over these forums, you guys know what you're talking about and maybe can answer this for me.
This morning I was leaving the house for two hours and there was a show I wanted to tape (Judge Mathis). I set the DVR to record, no problems. Tonight I go to watch the show, and I have three instances of Judge Mathis.
Judge Mathis 0:48
Judge Mathis 0:02
Judge Mathis 0:09
The description for the show, date and times are all around the correct show. Why did the DVR not tape the entire show in one instance, but chop it up into three pieces?? I haven't had this happen to any other show I've recorded (which, in the four days I have had DISH, have been tons of Law & Orders, West Wing, etc.) Thanks in advance if anyone can answer this for me!
Megan
This morning I was leaving the house for two hours and there was a show I wanted to tape (Judge Mathis). I set the DVR to record, no problems. Tonight I go to watch the show, and I have three instances of Judge Mathis.
Judge Mathis 0:48
Judge Mathis 0:02
Judge Mathis 0:09
The description for the show, date and times are all around the correct show. Why did the DVR not tape the entire show in one instance, but chop it up into three pieces?? I haven't had this happen to any other show I've recorded (which, in the four days I have had DISH, have been tons of Law & Orders, West Wing, etc.) Thanks in advance if anyone can answer this for me!
Megan
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While a reboot is the most likely reason this happened to her, I wouldn't make the leap just yet that it was the result of a power outage.
Megan, I don't want to scare you, but since you are new to the 522, you should prepare yourself for some pretty strange behavior from it.
Many people (myself included) experience random reboots, missed timers, recording problems, and various other eccentricities that happen for no apparent reason.
What probably happened was 9 minutes into the show, the 522 rebooted (who knows why). Then after it came back on and acquired the sat. signal, it started the recording back up (it's designed that way, it remembers that it's supposed to be recording something for you). Then a couple of minutes later, it rebooted again (again, who knows why) and when it came back online, it finished recording the show for you.
It might never happen to you again, or it might happen semi-often. There's really no way to tell, sorry.
P.S. I love Judge Mathis...and Doyle rules! :up
Pepper said:
While a reboot is the most likely reason this happened to her, I wouldn't make the leap just yet that it was the result of a power outage.
Megan, I don't want to scare you, but since you are new to the 522, you should prepare yourself for some pretty strange behavior from it.
Many people (myself included) experience random reboots, missed timers, recording problems, and various other eccentricities that happen for no apparent reason.
What probably happened was 9 minutes into the show, the 522 rebooted (who knows why). Then after it came back on and acquired the sat. signal, it started the recording back up (it's designed that way, it remembers that it's supposed to be recording something for you). Then a couple of minutes later, it rebooted again (again, who knows why) and when it came back online, it finished recording the show for you.
It might never happen to you again, or it might happen semi-often. There's really no way to tell, sorry.
P.S. I love Judge Mathis...and Doyle rules! :up
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Megan, I do manual reboot usually twice a day. Once a day might be good for you. If you want you could read my long message on the following page about how/why I like to reboot/update my 522 (522 losing recorded events). I've found it really helps to avoid some of the problems people complain about with their receiver, but I still have some problems sometimes, too. And it might not matter/apply to you because I do a LOT of recording and watching with my 522 and often refer to myself as like a "power user." So I probably use my 522 in 2 or 3 days what an "average" person uses theirs in a week. So you might not care or be motivated enough to take the few extra steps that I like to do.
As for the drive checks, I have my "daily update" turned off (I believe that's when most people see a daily drive check, right? It used to be that way.) so the only time I see drive checking is when the 522 search bug kicks in or at some other time when the 522 is acting retarded (no offence to anyone). If you want my advice, I would say to do whatever you can to avoid drive checks. It is my experience that whenever I have had serious problems with the 522 (like it erases all my recording for me), it was the result of a drive check.
Here's a secret about the 522 and drive diagnostic...it's all bogus. When the 522 starts running low on memory or having some other bug or problem, that's when the drive check could pop up on you out of the blue. Now, sometimes after the check is done, the 522 thinks there's a problem and says, "Hey, I think there's a problem, you have 7 days to erase your recordings and timers and if you don't do it after 7 days, I will do it for you." But then, MAGICALLY, the 522 works PERFECTLY FINE for (at least) 7 more days. So, then, WHY, WHY, WHY can't it just go on working that way forever? Why does it, after 7 days of working fine, go and erase your hard drive? So basically, just try to avoid the drive check. If you ever come upon one running, cancel it from the remote or pull the plug.
About leaving it on or off at night, I don't know how much it really matters, but lately I like to just leave both tuners on all the time 24/7. I update and reboot on my own term so I get the guide and software updates anyway, and in my past experience the 522 acts especially goofy when turning on and off the tuners sometimes. I don't think leaving them on 24/7 will hurt anything (the drive spins 24/7 anyway) and I don't think turning them off will help anything...so I just leave them on.
Yeah, it was not a problem of losing the signal, it was a reboot. If you lose the signal while it is recording, it will keep the recording in one solid piece, and at the point when the signal got lost it will give you pop up message on playback that says, "part of the signal was lost" (or some message like that). When it gets broken up into two or more like you had, something made the receiver reboot and pick up the recording where it left off after it comes back on. Good luck.
wordsontour said:
Megan, I do manual reboot usually twice a day. Once a day might be good for you. If you want you could read my long message on the following page about how/why I like to reboot/update my 522 (522 losing recorded events). I've found it really helps to avoid some of the problems people complain about with their receiver, but I still have some problems sometimes, too. And it might not matter/apply to you because I do a LOT of recording and watching with my 522 and often refer to myself as like a "power user." So I probably use my 522 in 2 or 3 days what an "average" person uses theirs in a week. So you might not care or be motivated enough to take the few extra steps that I like to do.
As for the drive checks, I have my "daily update" turned off (I believe that's when most people see a daily drive check, right? It used to be that way.) so the only time I see drive checking is when the 522 search bug kicks in or at some other time when the 522 is acting retarded (no offence to anyone). If you want my advice, I would say to do whatever you can to avoid drive checks. It is my experience that whenever I have had serious problems with the 522 (like it erases all my recording for me), it was the result of a drive check.
Here's a secret about the 522 and drive diagnostic...it's all bogus. When the 522 starts running low on memory or having some other bug or problem, that's when the drive check could pop up on you out of the blue. Now, sometimes after the check is done, the 522 thinks there's a problem and says, "Hey, I think there's a problem, you have 7 days to erase your recordings and timers and if you don't do it after 7 days, I will do it for you." But then, MAGICALLY, the 522 works PERFECTLY FINE for (at least) 7 more days. So, then, WHY, WHY, WHY can't it just go on working that way forever? Why does it, after 7 days of working fine, go and erase your hard drive? So basically, just try to avoid the drive check. If you ever come upon one running, cancel it from the remote or pull the plug.
About leaving it on or off at night, I don't know how much it really matters, but lately I like to just leave both tuners on all the time 24/7. I update and reboot on my own term so I get the guide and software updates anyway, and in my past experience the 522 acts especially goofy when turning on and off the tuners sometimes. I don't think leaving them on 24/7 will hurt anything (the drive spins 24/7 anyway) and I don't think turning them off will help anything...so I just leave them on.
wordsontour said:
Yeah, it was not a problem of losing the signal, it was a reboot. If you lose the signal while it is recording, it will keep the recording in one solid piece, and at the point when the signal got lost it will give you pop up message on playback that says, "part of the signal was lost" (or some message like that). When it gets broken up into two or more like you had, something made the receiver reboot and pick up the recording where it left off after it comes back on. Good luck.
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News about the tower's dispute-
Towercos now own Dish's 5G radios – and SpaceX might be a buyer
Tower companies now own Dish's deserted 5G gear, says American Tower CEO Steven Vondran. This could feed into SpaceX's mobile ambitions, analysts say.
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News about the tower's dispute-
Towercos now own Dish's 5G radios – and SpaceX might be a buyer
Tower companies now own Dish's deserted 5G gear, says American Tower CEO Steven Vondran. This could feed into SpaceX's mobile ambitions, analysts say.www.lightreading.com
So does this mean the churches and businesses that Dish owes back payments to are going to get paid now?
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I read several stories on this and most are clear as mud. They say a lot of the stolen bitcoin has been "locked out" and that everyone will be made financially whole. I guess time will tell if either of these statements are actually true.
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I read several stories on this and most are clear as mud. They say a lot of the stolen bitcoin has been "locked out" and that everyone will be made financially whole. I guess time will tell if either of these statements are actually true.
Hackers steal $6.3 billion from Binance in biggest-ever cryptocurrency theft
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So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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..I hate playing in Ames.
I hate playing in LA ...
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Freshman in the end of the game trying to play catch up, had a lot of Over throws ... Bucks lose ...
#1 Miami struggled but pulled away in the end beating North Carolina by 3 ...
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They could lose the rest of thier games at this point.
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I'm guessing a Silver plan is probably over $2,000 a month for 2027.
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Yes.....they do. Which is why I am very careful when at a customer's house these days....you NEVER know what is going to set someone off. Polite dialog is a thing of the past.....which is why I like my dog so much
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I figured some of the guys would be looking here for an answer. You'll need to use this link
I'll mention what happened over there. I don't want to cause Scott any issues or put him in a bad spot.
I'll mention what happened over there. I don't want to cause Scott any issues or put him in a bad spot.
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Now I have to go check out what happened now. Lol!I figured some of the guys would be looking here for an answer. You'll need to use this link
I'll mention what happened over there. I don't want to cause Scott any issues or put him in a bad spot.
Went and looked, not too bad...
Just let people know the address is satelliteretailer.com as DishRetailer.COM is not working.
Just let people know the address is satelliteretailer.com as DishRetailer.COM is not working.
I sent you a PM Scott. Doesn't really make any sense to me BUT....I've never claimed to be the sharpest knife in the drawer....though I just might be the most persistent.
Its an automated bot. Explained it to you in the PM.I sent you a PM Scott. Doesn't really make any sense to me BUT....I've never claimed to be the sharpest knife in the drawer....though I just might be the most persistent.
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The number-one US state for EV growth, according to the June 22 Yardi report?
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Never realized that Tesla is losing to BYD at manufacturing too, which IMO is Tesla's biggest accomplishment and area of innovation. Nice writeup about the state of play and how we got here though. I have no faith that we're moving any productive direction though sadly, most changes and efforts feel reactionary rather than rooted in making use of the time being bought by tariffs, with few exceptions.
So: how are the cars so cheap, and what is being cut to get there? The best public accounting comes from the Rhodium Group, which compared BYD, Geely, and Leapmotor against Tesla's Chinese operation, a fair comparison because it removes labor costs and shipping from the equation entirely. Their estimate is that BYD builds a car for about $4,700 less than Tesla builds a Model 3 in Shanghai, roughly 15 percent of the Model 3's price. The breakdown is the interesting part. Direct government grants account for about $292 per vehicle, which is 5 percent of the gap. The biggest single factor is vertical integration: BYD makes about 80 percent of its top-tier components in-house, against 37 percent for Tesla, and that eliminates roughly $2,369 per vehicle in supplier markups. Lower overhead, meaning cheaper engineering talent and administrative cost spread across enormous volume, accounts for another $1,719. And BYD pays its suppliers on 155-day terms, against Tesla's 60, which is worth about $214 per car in float. When people say the Chinese advantage is subsidies, the per-vehicle number says otherwise. When people say it is slave wages, the Tesla Shanghai comparison says otherwise too. The advantage is mostly that BYD decided, twenty years ago, to make its own batteries, its own motors, its own power electronics, and its own semiconductors, and Western automakers decided the opposite.
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Never realized that Tesla is losing to BYD at manufacturing too, which IMO is Tesla's biggest accomplishment and area of innovation. Nice writeup about the state of play and how we got here though. I have no faith that we're moving any productive direction though sadly, most changes and efforts feel reactionary rather than rooted in making use of the time being bought by tariffs, with few exceptions.
So: how are the cars so cheap, and what is being cut to get there? The best public accounting comes from the Rhodium Group, which compared BYD, Geely, and Leapmotor against Tesla's Chinese operation, a fair comparison because it removes labor costs and shipping from the equation entirely. Their estimate is that BYD builds a car for about $4,700 less than Tesla builds a Model 3 in Shanghai, roughly 15 percent of the Model 3's price. The breakdown is the interesting part. Direct government grants account for about $292 per vehicle, which is 5 percent of the gap. The biggest single factor is vertical integration: BYD makes about 80 percent of its top-tier components in-house, against 37 percent for Tesla, and that eliminates roughly $2,369 per vehicle in supplier markups. Lower overhead, meaning cheaper engineering talent and administrative cost spread across enormous volume, accounts for another $1,719. And BYD pays its suppliers on 155-day terms, against Tesla's 60, which is worth about $214 per car in float. When people say the Chinese advantage is subsidies, the per-vehicle number says otherwise. When people say it is slave wages, the Tesla Shanghai comparison says otherwise too. The advantage is mostly that BYD decided, twenty years ago, to make its own batteries, its own motors, its own power electronics, and its own semiconductors, and Western automakers decided the opposite.
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