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ndennis
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AZBOX  Need Old Timer Help With 10' Dish Setup

I've been using my old 4DTV receiver to power my C/Ku 10' dish which sends the signal to my AZBox Premium HD.

The 4DTV is dying and it would be nice to have the AZBox power the 10' dish.

It's been many years since I've messed with this and I've forgotten much of what does what.

Looking at the back of the AZBox it appears there is no way to control a movable dish with the AZBox. Correct?

If I can leave the dish pointed where it is and figure out how to get power to it, then that is enough.

Does the AZBox send power to the dish through the cable?

I cannot find a way to adjust the skew with the AZBox so I have no idea what will happen when it switches polarities.


The cable running to the dish has a gang of four cables.

One is thinner and has three wires, black, red, and white.

Next to it is a cable with four wires, green, white (heavy gauge), red (heavy gauge), and brown.

The other two cables are for C and Ku band. The LNB has two cables going to it (as I recall). But I don't need C band.

Can my AZBox use these cables?

I have no idea how to connect anything to the AZBox other than the input.

If this is impossible, what do you suggest I use to power my dish?

Thanks for any ideas.

Dennis
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The biggest reason I stopped moving my dish many years ago was the high cost of the positioner and they only lasted a year or two.

I found sadoun.com and I've contacted them.

If it's not too costly I'm going to try and get everything running again.

Is my 4DTV now a doorstop? Who is the best for getting it repaired?

Thank you phlatwound
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ndennis said:
...Is my 4DTV now a doorstop?

Who is the best for getting it repaired?

Thank you phlatwound
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Technically, your 4DTV is not yet a doorstop, but it is getting close, definitely a dinosaur. The programming available for it is pretty sparse, and more is disappearing all the time. It can still be used as a dish mover and will receive some ITC DC2 programming, but I don't think there is much of that either.

If your 4DTV battery is already dead, and it's lost it's Unit ID it will never be able to be subscribed to programming again, so you need to check that if you are thinking of getting it worked on.

ATS Electronics is the place you want to send your receiver if you want to put some money into it and continue to use it. They can replace the battery and install the new maps.

If it was me I would kiss the 4DTV goodbye, look at getting a V-Box or G-Box to position the dish, get a microHD to view C & Ku-band, an LNBF (to replace the CoRotor servo-type feed) and then slave your AzBox to the micro for viewing 4:2:2 feeds. All of that would probably cost less than getting the 4DTV worked on and you would have a nice, modern FTA viewing platform.
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If you're using LNB's then you need to replace them with LNBF's. The LNBF uses 2 different voltages to change the polarity. These voltages come from the Azbox (or other FTA receiver) and are provided through the coaxial cable. This is different than LNB's which uses a mechanical polarizer and separate wiring - you don't need the polarizator with LNBF's.
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Can you please explain how LNBF's get the skew correct if there is no fine tuning of the skew? Just curious.
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ndennis said:
Can you please explain how LNBF's get the skew correct if there is no fine tuning of the skew? Just curious.
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The natural motion of a polar mount skews the whole dish as it moves across the arc, and the LNBF is skewed by the dish.
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phlatwound said:
If it was me I would kiss the 4DTV goodbye, look at getting a V-Box or G-Box to position the dish, get a microHD to view C & Ku-band, an LNBF (to replace the CoRotor servo-type feed) and then slave your AzBox to the micro for viewing 4:2:2 feeds. All of that would probably cost less than getting the 4DTV worked on and you would have a nice, modern FTA viewing platform.
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Why would he need a microhd for??? He already has an Azbox premium that can do 422 and c/ku viewing in one unit.

Unnecessary spending when his Azbox works fine.





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pro96 said:
Why would he need a microhd for??? He already has an Azbox premium that can do 422 and c/ku viewing in one unit.

Unnecessary spending when his Azbox works fine.
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The original post stated he has an AZBox Premium HD which DOES NOT DO BLIND SCAN. Blind scan didn't get included in the Premium model until the + version went on sale then shortly after that the Ultra showed up with blind scan also. I wouldn't buy any receiver now that didn't have blind scan capabilities.
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If you really want to avoid unnecessary spending I would sell the AzBox...you can probably get enough from it to pay for the microHD, V/G-Box and an LNBF.

And if you are willing to do some hunting, start looking for BUDs with quality actuators that need a new home. You may have to take the whole works to get one but if you could find a nice newish Venture/Von Weiss/Saginaw it could be worth the effort.
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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
www.colts.com

Colts relieve general manager Chris Ballard of his duties

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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
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They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
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jsmit86 said:
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
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I guess they will be busy when lots of people start asking for rollbacks to H708 now that you mention that downgrades of software does exist because it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner and the IR Remote problems in H710-H713.
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it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner
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it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner
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I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
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I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
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Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
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long_time_Dish said:
Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
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Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
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Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
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If I understand your question, O'Neill had the Ancient's knowledge in the "Lost City" two-part episode. That was when Anubis attacked Earth and there was a big battle over Antarctica.
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
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Yup, I agree, I'd rather be 2 or 3 till the last few weeks.
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