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Here is my situation. I have two C-band dishes (one motorized, one fixed) plus a couple of Ku-band dishes, though I doubt the Ku's will be helpful for what I want. I mentioned what it is I'm trying to receive on the private forum so I won't repeat that here. But what I do want to know is if there is anything available that has the following features:
- Will receive satellite TV, preferably in many formats (including 4:2:2 if possible), and stream it or otherwise make it available to computers on the local network. If it can be used as a source in MythTV, that would be ideal.
- Can be set up and used by someone who is not a total computer nerd. Let me put it this way - when it comes to Linux I am okay with installing software from the Ubuntu app store, or using Synaptic, or even apt-get from the command line. I am not okay with compiling software. I am definitely not okay with patching someone else's software to try to get it to work.
- Preferably can receive multiple streams (at least two) at once.
- Preferably can in some way move the dish, although I am not yet sure how necessary that will actually be.
- Can control a DiSEqC and 22 kHz tone switch (or has some other way to select from multiple inputs).
- Can blind scan for signals
In other words, I am basically looking for something a bit similar to a HDHomeRun device (which is what I use now for OTA signals) but failing that, a receiver that includes some sort of backend that can be accessed by XBMC (which is the frontend I use) would work as well. I actually prefer a standalone receiver provided it can stream programming over the network, simply because I am less out of my element. My second choice would be a USB-connected device that would stream to the MythTV backend, and my third choice would be a card that must be plugged into a computer (right now I am using a repurposed Mac Mini as my backend, and it doesn't have card slots).
In the case of a standalone receiver, I guess I would consider an alternative that did not do live streaming, but that did record the programs to a hard drive that was also accessible via the local network, if the recorded programs were in a format that XBMC could access and play. But with a standalone receiver, I also need the ability to schedule recordings and perform other maintenance from another computer on the network. This is because there is actually no TV where there receiver would be located - the whole point is to steam or record satellite programming for playback on other computers on the same local network.
The thing that I have heard about that seemed to come closest to what I wanted was the TBS MOI, but it seems that the people who have purchased one are not overly enthused about it, plus I see a lot of comments to the effect that if you use somebody or other's special firmware compiled with certain options under a full moon at low tide, it might work the way you want. That sort of thing goes completely over my head, at least at this point in time. But if someone here has purchased one and it is working great for you (especially with XBMC), I'd like to hear your experience. And if there are better devices that would do what I want and be far less hassle to set up, I'd be even more interested to hear about those.
The main thing is that while I would like to get back into FTA satellite, I mainly want to be able to record shows and then play them back later on computers or tablets in my home. I am not in the slightest interested in the old model, where you hook up a single receiver to a single TV, and can only watch satellite TV in that room, or schedule recordings using only the receiver's remote control. I still would like to be able to receive wildfeeds and such, but that is a secondary consideration at the moment.
Is there any chance of getting what I'm looking for, or is local networking pretty much still a foreign concept to the receiver makers?
- Will receive satellite TV, preferably in many formats (including 4:2:2 if possible), and stream it or otherwise make it available to computers on the local network. If it can be used as a source in MythTV, that would be ideal.
- Can be set up and used by someone who is not a total computer nerd. Let me put it this way - when it comes to Linux I am okay with installing software from the Ubuntu app store, or using Synaptic, or even apt-get from the command line. I am not okay with compiling software. I am definitely not okay with patching someone else's software to try to get it to work.
- Preferably can receive multiple streams (at least two) at once.
- Preferably can in some way move the dish, although I am not yet sure how necessary that will actually be.
- Can control a DiSEqC and 22 kHz tone switch (or has some other way to select from multiple inputs).
- Can blind scan for signals
In other words, I am basically looking for something a bit similar to a HDHomeRun device (which is what I use now for OTA signals) but failing that, a receiver that includes some sort of backend that can be accessed by XBMC (which is the frontend I use) would work as well. I actually prefer a standalone receiver provided it can stream programming over the network, simply because I am less out of my element. My second choice would be a USB-connected device that would stream to the MythTV backend, and my third choice would be a card that must be plugged into a computer (right now I am using a repurposed Mac Mini as my backend, and it doesn't have card slots).
In the case of a standalone receiver, I guess I would consider an alternative that did not do live streaming, but that did record the programs to a hard drive that was also accessible via the local network, if the recorded programs were in a format that XBMC could access and play. But with a standalone receiver, I also need the ability to schedule recordings and perform other maintenance from another computer on the network. This is because there is actually no TV where there receiver would be located - the whole point is to steam or record satellite programming for playback on other computers on the same local network.
The thing that I have heard about that seemed to come closest to what I wanted was the TBS MOI, but it seems that the people who have purchased one are not overly enthused about it, plus I see a lot of comments to the effect that if you use somebody or other's special firmware compiled with certain options under a full moon at low tide, it might work the way you want. That sort of thing goes completely over my head, at least at this point in time. But if someone here has purchased one and it is working great for you (especially with XBMC), I'd like to hear your experience. And if there are better devices that would do what I want and be far less hassle to set up, I'd be even more interested to hear about those.
The main thing is that while I would like to get back into FTA satellite, I mainly want to be able to record shows and then play them back later on computers or tablets in my home. I am not in the slightest interested in the old model, where you hook up a single receiver to a single TV, and can only watch satellite TV in that room, or schedule recordings using only the receiver's remote control. I still would like to be able to receive wildfeeds and such, but that is a secondary consideration at the moment.
Is there any chance of getting what I'm looking for, or is local networking pretty much still a foreign concept to the receiver makers?
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Ok, let's break down the requirements on a list as it appears the AzBox miniMe American Edition meets most of your requirements.
- Will receive satellite TV, preferably in many formats (including 4:2:2 if possible).
The AzBox miniMe American Edition supports all common formats with DVB-S QPSK, DVB-S2 QPSK and DVB-S2 8PSK modulations including 4:2:2.
- Stream it or otherwise make it available to computers on the local network.
The built-in web interface allows you to change and view a channel with computers on your local network via their web browser. A link is also provided to view the stream on VLC if desired. Sorry, no MythTV backend support yet at this time but I will add it on our list of enhancement requests. However, as the miniMe was designed to be a frontend and not a backend, this won't be a high priority item.
- Can be set up and used by someone who is not a total computer nerd.
The AzBox miniMe American Edition comes ready for use out of the box and can be upgraded easily directly from the receiver if connected to the Internet or via USB. No computer nerd degree required.
- Preferably can receive multiple streams (at least two) at once.
Multiple computers can view the channel stream at the same time but the maximum amount of clients depends on the channel's bitrate as each extra client adds a certain amount of CPU usage on the device. Once you have too many clients connected, the stream will start breaking up on all computers as the miniMe's processor can't keep up anymore. An interesting feature is that you are able to stream a channel on your computer and view a different channel on your TV at the same time if it's on the same MUX.
- Preferably can in some way move the dish, although I am not yet sure how necessary that will actually be.
The AzBox miniMe American Edition has full USALS and DiSEqC 1.2 support.
- Can control a DiSEqC and 22 kHz tone switch (or has some other way to select from multiple inputs).
No issues here with full DiSEqC 1.0, 1.1 and 22kHz switch support.
- Can blind scan for signals
No issues here either!
In the case of a standalone receiver, I guess I would consider an alternative that did not do live streaming, but that did record the programs to a hard drive that was also accessible via the local network, if the recorded programs were in a format that XBMC could access and play.
Assuming your LAN network is 100Mbps, you can also record directly to a server or NAS drive on your LAN as long as it is configured as an NFS share. Unsure what formats XBMC supports but I do know that the recordings can be played back on VLC.
But with a standalone receiver, I also need the ability to schedule recordings and perform other maintenance from another computer on the network. This is because there is actually no TV where there receiver would be located - the whole point is to steam or record satellite programming for playback on other computers on the same local network. The AzBox miniMe American Edition's webinterface allows for recording timers to be configured by any network client.
Best regards,
- Will receive satellite TV, preferably in many formats (including 4:2:2 if possible).
The AzBox miniMe American Edition supports all common formats with DVB-S QPSK, DVB-S2 QPSK and DVB-S2 8PSK modulations including 4:2:2.
- Stream it or otherwise make it available to computers on the local network.
The built-in web interface allows you to change and view a channel with computers on your local network via their web browser. A link is also provided to view the stream on VLC if desired. Sorry, no MythTV backend support yet at this time but I will add it on our list of enhancement requests. However, as the miniMe was designed to be a frontend and not a backend, this won't be a high priority item.
- Can be set up and used by someone who is not a total computer nerd.
The AzBox miniMe American Edition comes ready for use out of the box and can be upgraded easily directly from the receiver if connected to the Internet or via USB. No computer nerd degree required.
- Preferably can receive multiple streams (at least two) at once.
Multiple computers can view the channel stream at the same time but the maximum amount of clients depends on the channel's bitrate as each extra client adds a certain amount of CPU usage on the device. Once you have too many clients connected, the stream will start breaking up on all computers as the miniMe's processor can't keep up anymore. An interesting feature is that you are able to stream a channel on your computer and view a different channel on your TV at the same time if it's on the same MUX.
- Preferably can in some way move the dish, although I am not yet sure how necessary that will actually be.
The AzBox miniMe American Edition has full USALS and DiSEqC 1.2 support.
- Can control a DiSEqC and 22 kHz tone switch (or has some other way to select from multiple inputs).
No issues here with full DiSEqC 1.0, 1.1 and 22kHz switch support.
- Can blind scan for signals
No issues here either!
In the case of a standalone receiver, I guess I would consider an alternative that did not do live streaming, but that did record the programs to a hard drive that was also accessible via the local network, if the recorded programs were in a format that XBMC could access and play.
Assuming your LAN network is 100Mbps, you can also record directly to a server or NAS drive on your LAN as long as it is configured as an NFS share. Unsure what formats XBMC supports but I do know that the recordings can be played back on VLC.
But with a standalone receiver, I also need the ability to schedule recordings and perform other maintenance from another computer on the network. This is because there is actually no TV where there receiver would be located - the whole point is to steam or record satellite programming for playback on other computers on the same local network. The AzBox miniMe American Edition's webinterface allows for recording timers to be configured by any network client.
Best regards,
Instead of a computer for viewing, I use a low cost Western Digital media player.
(WD TV Live Plus)
It was around $70-90, several years ago.
In some tests, I ran high bit rate 4:2:2 through it (Indy Car race).
Worked fine.
(WD TV Live Plus)
It was around $70-90, several years ago.
In some tests, I ran high bit rate 4:2:2 through it (Indy Car race).
Worked fine.
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Direct YouTube Link - AI Can Self-Replicate: Unplugging the Threat! #shorts
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Several Dish offers showed up today in my account. Once you choose one the rest are removed. Offers were Showtime, Starz, AMC and others.
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Not for me, mines has no mention of how long aka the offer period and the Terms and conditions the $0.00 is good for. All I see is one can lose $5.00 if you decide to remove it before day 31 after you add it to the account.
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I created this thread on the original Edgecutter Cutting Edge Forums site. It's simply a place for those to review the latest software available for those using Windows 10 and Windows 11. To date it has received 112,559 views. I have been asked by staff to continue this thread here.
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To each there own but I've found that Windows can't do much more than Linux can. Can't have everything.
For niche use cases, yes I agree. Kali for ethical hacking and security testing, and running a Cacti server for network monitoring are the two things I have experience in. Plus thousands and thousands of other things, but for every day use I just can't see it. The owner of the GMRS repeater that I pay to access is changing the Tx DPL tones tomorrow, while Chirp is available on Linux, the software to program my MXT500 is not.To each there own but I've found that Windows can't do much more than Linux can. Can't have everything.
I run Fedora and Ubuntu in VMWare, honestly I don't care much for the UI of either of them and I don't feel like spending days/weeks to customize the UI to make it look Windows-like when I could just use Windows. The cartoonish dock at the bottom of the screen reminds me of Apple products.
As I said above, and, FWIW, I run Win11 Pro and Arch on separate 250 GB NVME drives, using F8 to select which I boot to, with a 1TB SSD for storage, accessible to both OSs and a third formatted Nvme I want to use to learn Kali. It was much faster to setup Arch than it was to strip down Windows. Windows still takes much longer to boot.
For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat.
WTF… …What the Foxbat!Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat.
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wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming youWTF… …What the Foxbat!
I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you
Help, I'm a little confjused on the activation process.
I purchased the Joey 4 from Solid Signal and shipping box has Call 866 726-4282 to Avtivate new Receiver. That number is Solid Signals number.
I googled and that search said call Dish to activate. I assume that is correct unless this requires a 2 step process.
Please let me know.
Thanks
I purchased the Joey 4 from Solid Signal and shipping box has Call 866 726-4282 to Avtivate new Receiver. That number is Solid Signals number.
I googled and that search said call Dish to activate. I assume that is correct unless this requires a 2 step process.
Please let me know.
Thanks
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All good called Dish and new Joey 4 is activated and working.
Old Joey 2 deactivated and no need to return.
Old Joey 2 deactivated and no need to return.
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i bought mine straight from dish as it was only $ 100.00 bucks!!! had the protection plan they came out removed and deactivated the 4k joey and activated and installed the joey 4.All good called Dish and new Joey 4 is activated and working.
Old Joey 2 deactivated and no need to return.
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Apple has finally released their Apple TV 4K with built-in Siri and a microphone so it can respond to your queries even if you don't have the remote. It also increases in price, to $299. I had been planning on updating my current Apple TV 4K streamers, but that's $600 for the two of them, and that's a pass at this point.
At $299, it had better come with 256 GB of Storage, Gigabit (or better) Ethernet, the latest HDMI tech and standards, and one year of free Apple One. But it probably won't…
At $299, it had better come with 256 GB of Storage, Gigabit (or better) Ethernet, the latest HDMI tech and standards, and one year of free Apple One. But it probably won't…
Apple TV 4K
Apple TV 4K. New Siri AI and hands-free control. Stunning picture and immersive HomePod surround sound. Works with your Apple and smart home devices.
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. apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
they all do that anyways.. ever notice your cell phone slows down when you come up for an upgrade..
. apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
The new curated multiview is now live.
While on many of the sports channels and non sports channels there is a multi view option button. It will pull up a side bar with many different multi view options.
While on many of the sports channels and non sports channels there is a multi view option button. It will pull up a side bar with many different multi view options.
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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