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Here is my situation. I have two C-band dishes (one motorized, one fixed) plus a couple of Ku-band dishes, though I doubt the Ku's will be helpful for what I want. I mentioned what it is I'm trying to receive on the private forum so I won't repeat that here. But what I do want to know is if there is anything available that has the following features:

- Will receive satellite TV, preferably in many formats (including 4:2:2 if possible), and stream it or otherwise make it available to computers on the local network. If it can be used as a source in MythTV, that would be ideal.

- Can be set up and used by someone who is not a total computer nerd. Let me put it this way - when it comes to Linux I am okay with installing software from the Ubuntu app store, or using Synaptic, or even apt-get from the command line. I am not okay with compiling software. I am definitely not okay with patching someone else's software to try to get it to work.

- Preferably can receive multiple streams (at least two) at once.

- Preferably can in some way move the dish, although I am not yet sure how necessary that will actually be.

- Can control a DiSEqC and 22 kHz tone switch (or has some other way to select from multiple inputs).

- Can blind scan for signals

In other words, I am basically looking for something a bit similar to a HDHomeRun device (which is what I use now for OTA signals) but failing that, a receiver that includes some sort of backend that can be accessed by XBMC (which is the frontend I use) would work as well. I actually prefer a standalone receiver provided it can stream programming over the network, simply because I am less out of my element. My second choice would be a USB-connected device that would stream to the MythTV backend, and my third choice would be a card that must be plugged into a computer (right now I am using a repurposed Mac Mini as my backend, and it doesn't have card slots).

In the case of a standalone receiver, I guess I would consider an alternative that did not do live streaming, but that did record the programs to a hard drive that was also accessible via the local network, if the recorded programs were in a format that XBMC could access and play. But with a standalone receiver, I also need the ability to schedule recordings and perform other maintenance from another computer on the network. This is because there is actually no TV where there receiver would be located - the whole point is to steam or record satellite programming for playback on other computers on the same local network.

The thing that I have heard about that seemed to come closest to what I wanted was the TBS MOI, but it seems that the people who have purchased one are not overly enthused about it, plus I see a lot of comments to the effect that if you use somebody or other's special firmware compiled with certain options under a full moon at low tide, it might work the way you want. That sort of thing goes completely over my head, at least at this point in time. But if someone here has purchased one and it is working great for you (especially with XBMC), I'd like to hear your experience. And if there are better devices that would do what I want and be far less hassle to set up, I'd be even more interested to hear about those.

The main thing is that while I would like to get back into FTA satellite, I mainly want to be able to record shows and then play them back later on computers or tablets in my home. I am not in the slightest interested in the old model, where you hook up a single receiver to a single TV, and can only watch satellite TV in that room, or schedule recordings using only the receiver's remote control. I still would like to be able to receive wildfeeds and such, but that is a secondary consideration at the moment.

Is there any chance of getting what I'm looking for, or is local networking pretty much still a foreign concept to the receiver makers?
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pwrsurge
Ok, let's break down the requirements on a list as it appears the AzBox miniMe American Edition meets most of your requirements.

- Will receive satellite TV, preferably in many formats (including 4:2:2 if possible).
The AzBox miniMe American Edition supports all common formats with DVB-S QPSK, DVB-S2 QPSK and DVB-S2 8PSK modulations including 4:2:2.

- Stream it or otherwise make it available to computers on the local network.
The built-in web interface allows you to change and view a channel with computers on your local network via their web browser. A link is also provided to view the stream on VLC if desired. Sorry, no MythTV backend support yet at this time but I will add it on our list of enhancement requests. However, as the miniMe was designed to be a frontend and not a backend, this won't be a high priority item.

- Can be set up and used by someone who is not a total computer nerd.
The AzBox miniMe American Edition comes ready for use out of the box and can be upgraded easily directly from the receiver if connected to the Internet or via USB. No computer nerd degree required. :D

- Preferably can receive multiple streams (at least two) at once.
Multiple computers can view the channel stream at the same time but the maximum amount of clients depends on the channel's bitrate as each extra client adds a certain amount of CPU usage on the device. Once you have too many clients connected, the stream will start breaking up on all computers as the miniMe's processor can't keep up anymore. An interesting feature is that you are able to stream a channel on your computer and view a different channel on your TV at the same time if it's on the same MUX.

- Preferably can in some way move the dish, although I am not yet sure how necessary that will actually be.
The AzBox miniMe American Edition has full USALS and DiSEqC 1.2 support.

- Can control a DiSEqC and 22 kHz tone switch (or has some other way to select from multiple inputs).
No issues here with full DiSEqC 1.0, 1.1 and 22kHz switch support.

- Can blind scan for signals
No issues here either!

In the case of a standalone receiver, I guess I would consider an alternative that did not do live streaming, but that did record the programs to a hard drive that was also accessible via the local network, if the recorded programs were in a format that XBMC could access and play.
Assuming your LAN network is 100Mbps, you can also record directly to a server or NAS drive on your LAN as long as it is configured as an NFS share. Unsure what formats XBMC supports but I do know that the recordings can be played back on VLC.

But with a standalone receiver, I also need the ability to schedule recordings and perform other maintenance from another computer on the network. This is because there is actually no TV where there receiver would be located - the whole point is to steam or record satellite programming for playback on other computers on the same local network. The AzBox miniMe American Edition's webinterface allows for recording timers to be configured by any network client.



Best regards,
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Ok, let's break down the requirements on a list as it appears the AzBox miniMe American Edition meets most of your requirements.

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- Stream it or otherwise make it available to computers on the local network.
The built-in web interface allows you to change and view a channel with computers on your local network via their web browser. A link is also provided to view the stream on VLC if desired. Sorry, no MythTV backend support yet at this time but I will add it on our list of enhancement requests. However, as the miniMe was designed to be a frontend and not a backend, this won't be a high priority item.

Well, the issue with that is that nowadays people want to view their content on multiple screens. If XBMC can receive the stream that would work too, provided that recorded programs (not just live streams) can also be accessed and viewed from other computers and devices. In fact I am really more concerned with the ability to watch recordings on other devices than live programming. MythTV just puts everything in a nice common interface, as does XBMC for that matter.

- Preferably can receive multiple streams (at least two) at once.
Multiple computers can view the channel stream at the same time but the maximum amount of clients depends on the channel's bitrate as each extra client adds a certain amount of CPU usage on the device. Once you have too many clients connected, the stream will start breaking up on all computers as the miniMe's processor can't keep up anymore. An interesting feature is that you are able to stream a channel on your computer and view a different channel on your TV at the same time if it's on the same MUX.

What I am really looking for is two independent tuners that can connect to two separate dishes aimed at different satellites, or different transponders on the same satellite. I personally can't think of any circumstance where I would want to watch two different programs from the same MUX at the same time. Receiving the very same stream on two different devices at the same time might be a possibility, though. But as I noted, recording is far more important - it needs to be able to record two different programs at the same time.

Other than the above, everything you mentioned sounds great. But there is one thing you didn't mention - the price! Maybe I am looking in the wrong place but I can only find those receivers at around $220. And in today's market that just seems too high for a single tuner model.

Consider, for example, that today I stumbled across the page for the Amiko Alien2. It appears that it will do most if not all of what the AzBox you mentioned will do, AND it has dual tuners, AND it sells for $214.99. They specifically state that it will stream live satellite to PC including 4:2:2. I don't know how it compares in quality to the AzBox, but from the feature list they appear to be very similar, and the price is similar, but you get dual tuners with the Amiko.

I haven't committed to any solution yet, but I am just saying that unless there is some source offering a much better deal on the AzBox miniMe than anything I found via a quick search, it's probably not something I would jump at, despite it meeting most of my other needs. I appreciate your post and I'm not completely discarding the idea that the miniMe could work as a partial solution, but basically I'd need two of them and even if I could get them for half price, they'd still be using double the power.

I probably shouldn't even mention the fact that while looking at that site I saw they are touting an upcoming new, very small single tuner box for $69 (pre-order price at one of their dealers, which shall remain nameless), but I am pretty sure that one will NOT do 4:2:2, and probably doesn't have some of the other features of the larger models either. And of course I have no idea how the quality of the two brands compare, nor the customer support. But I suspect we are going to see satellite boxes start to shrink in both size and price as newer chips come onto the market.
pwrsurge
Consider, for example, that today I stumbled across the page for the Amiko Alien2. It appears that it will do most if not all of what the AzBox you mentioned will do, AND it has dual tuners, AND it sells for $214.99. They specifically state that it will stream live satellite to PC including 4:2:2. I don't know how it compares in quality to the AzBox, but from the feature list they appear to be very similar, and the price is similar, but you get dual tuners with the Amiko.

Stating that the Amiko supports 4:2:2 is misleading as it's your PC and NOT the STB that's doing the 4:2:2 decoding when streaming to it assuming that you have the correct software codecs installed that support 4:2:2. Any receiver that supports streaming the currently tuned channel will allow you to view 4:2:2 but ONLY on your PC's and NOT on the TV that the STB is connected to. However, AzBox HD receivers supports 4:2:2 decoding natively in hardware so you can view high bitrate 4:2:2 feeds on both your TV AND on your PC at the same time.

Keep in mind that the ability to view 4:2:2 streamed to your PC requires the correct software codecs installed on your PC and the maximum supported bitrate is based on the CPU power of your machine as decoding is done in software and not hardware. You will need quite a powerful PC in order to decode high bitrate 4:2:2 in realtime such as the example you mentioned. For example, my dual core CPU laptop is only able to view standard definition 4:2:2 feeds in realtime without any breakups or lag. Tablets or other portable devices generally will NOT be able to view 4:2:2 content in realtime.

In regards to single v.s. dual tuner, we are currently working on releasing an external USB based tuner in order to upgrade the miniMe to dual tuners which should be available by the end of the year.



Best regards,
A
Stating that the Amiko supports 4:2:2 is misleading as it's your PC and NOT the STB that's doing the 4:2:2 decoding when streaming to it assuming that you have the correct software codecs installed that support 4:2:2. Any receiver that supports streaming the currently tuned channel will allow you to view 4:2:2 but ONLY on your PC's and NOT on the TV that the STB is connected to. However, AzBox HD receivers supports 4:2:2 decoding natively in hardware so you can view high bitrate 4:2:2 feeds on both your TV AND on your PC at the same time.

Keep in mind that the ability to view 4:2:2 streamed to your PC requires the correct software codecs installed on your PC and the maximum supported bitrate is based on the CPU power of your machine as decoding is done in software and not hardware. You will need quite a powerful PC in order to decode high bitrate 4:2:2 in realtime such as the example you mentioned. For example, my dual core CPU laptop is only able to view standard definition 4:2:2 feeds in realtime without any breakups or lag. Tablets or other portable devices generally will NOT be able to view 4:2:2 content in realtime.

In regards to single v.s. dual tuner, we are currently working on releasing an external USB based tuner in order to upgrade the miniMe to dual tuners which should be available by the end of the year.

Thank you for that response. Okay, that changes the equation somewhat. So, let me ask this follow-up question:

Let's say you have recorded an hour long program from CBS. Now the program is over and it is sitting on the hard drive. Now say I want to come in from another computer on my network that is not a high-power machine, maybe it's a low-end desktop or a tablet computer, and view that program off the hard drive. Would that work? We are not talking real-time here, we are talking after the show has finished recording. Would I still need a powerful PC to do that, or is the program recorded in a format that can be viewed on most normal devices?

I guess part of what I am asking is, when the program is stored on the hard drive is it in any way transcoded to a format that lower-powered devices can handle. And, if that does not occur during the initial recording, is there a process that runs after the recording is finished that transcodes the program down to something that a normal PC could use? I ask that because when you schedule a program using MythTV, that is one of the options you have available, to automatically transcode the program after the show is finished (I have no idea what software they actually use to do this, because I've never had to do it with an OTA stream).

Just trying to get a handle on what is possible and what is not. On another issue, I was reading comparative reviews on the miniMe vs. the Alien2 and one comment I saw was that the miniMe didn't do blindscan nearly as well as the Alien2. Do you know if anything has been done since those reviews were written to improve the blindscan capability in the miniMe?
Anole
Instead of a computer for viewing, I use a low cost Western Digital media player.
(WD TV Live Plus)
It was around $70-90, several years ago.
In some tests, I ran high bit rate 4:2:2 through it (Indy Car race).
Worked fine. :)
Jim S.
As far as I know, the only DVB STBs that transcode recordings or network streams only work with Dish Network.
Tron
In general, most semi-modern PCs can play MPEG-2 without problems. MPEG-4 AVC, however, requires either a fast modern processor or a hardware-accelerated video card (and sometimes both).

As Anole mentioned, the WDTV media players do a great job as stand-alone devices.
Bruce
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV General Forum
Thanks to Fitch Ratings ( who gives the ratings on Credit and debt, as approved by the SEC, so they have accurate numbers) we have the totals.

DIRECTV's video subscriber base is the third-largest traditional multi-channel video programming distributor (MVPD) in the U.S. with about 8.2 million subscribers at the end of 1Q26.

The last time it was reported, it was 8.8M at the end of 2Q25, so only a 600,000 loss for 3 quarters, which is a major improvement, since for many years before that, it was losing 500,000 a quarter, 2 Million a year.

It is now losing less than Dish/Sling combined, I believe the Genre Packs are helping to retain and get subscribers.

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raoul5788
They have one less as of May 15th. I just couldn't justify almost $150 a month any more. I went to Fubo. Edit: And I've been a Directv customer for 30 years!
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They have one less as of May 15th. I just couldn't justify almost $150 a month any more. I went to Fubo.
Fubo would be a non starter for me. Missing channels:
  • NBCUniversal Channels: NBC local affiliates, USA Network, Bravo, CNBC, MSNBC, E!, Syfy, Telemundo, and the Golf Channel.
  • NBC Sports: Regional sports networks like NBC Sports Bay Area, Boston, California, and Philadelphia are also off the air.
  • Warner Bros. Discovery Channels: TBS, TNT, TruTV, CNN, Discovery Channel, TLC, HGTV, Food Network, and Animal Planet.
  • A&E Networks: A&E, History, Lifetime, and Vice.
  • AMC Networks: AMC, IFC, SundanceTV, and WE tv
Plus most of its live TV channels and sports broadcasts are currently delivered in 720p.
Jimbo
Fubo would be a non starter for me. Missing channels:
  • NBCUniversal Channels: NBC local affiliates, USA Network, Bravo, CNBC, MSNBC, E!, Syfy, Telemundo, and the Golf Channel.
  • NBC Sports: Regional sports networks like NBC Sports Bay Area, Boston, California, and Philadelphia are also off the air.
  • Warner Bros. Discovery Channels: TBS, TNT, TruTV, CNN, Discovery Channel, TLC, HGTV, Food Network, and Animal Planet.
  • A&E Networks: A&E, History, Lifetime, and Vice.
  • AMC Networks: AMC, IFC, SundanceTV, and WE tv
Plus most of its live TV channels and sports broadcasts are currently delivered in 720p.
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raoul5788
Fubo would be a non starter for me. Missing channels:
  • NBCUniversal Channels: NBC local affiliates, USA Network, Bravo, CNBC, MSNBC, E!, Syfy, Telemundo, and the Golf Channel.
  • NBC Sports: Regional sports networks like NBC Sports Bay Area, Boston, California, and Philadelphia are also off the air.
  • Warner Bros. Discovery Channels: TBS, TNT, TruTV, CNN, Discovery Channel, TLC, HGTV, Food Network, and Animal Planet.
  • A&E Networks: A&E, History, Lifetime, and Vice.
  • AMC Networks: AMC, IFC, SundanceTV, and WE tv
Plus most of its live TV channels and sports broadcasts are currently delivered in 720p.
Understandable. It's always a choice of price vs channels. The $60/month difference made my choice easier.
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YTTV don't carry the Regional sports channels
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YTTV don't carry the Regional sports channels
It does still carry the NBC Sports branded RSN's, but obviously in those limited markets...
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Last reply · posted in DIRECTV General Forum
Recently came back to DirectTV Satellite service and have two boxes, Gemini and a main HR54.

DirecTV is charging me two "TV access fees" of $10 each, but can only watch TV on the one without the server. Is there anything I can do to fix this?
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FHSPSU67
First receiver should be free. It is for me.
b4pjoe
First receiver should be free. It is for me.
It is for me too. Back when they merged DIRECTV via Internet and DIRECTV Stream into one service they raised the TV access fee from $7.00 to $10.00 from both streaming and satellite and they eliminated the first receiver free for new customers only. Existing customers weren't affected by the new price and the elimination of the first receiver free policy.
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It is for me too. Back when they merged DIRECTV via Internet and DIRECTV Stream into one service they raised the TV access fee from $7.00 to $10.00 from both streaming and satellite and they eliminated the first receiver free for new customers only. Existing customers weren't affected by the new price and the elimination of the first receiver free policy.
All of this makes me want to cancel satellite again! Customer service said we were getting billed for an old receiver but the call got cut off.

Will call back and try to get this resolved. As of now, only one TV can access satellite service. Would hope they can send another Gemini to be co-located w the main HR54.
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Update: after 20 mins on phone with a non North American call center agent, they are sending a tech out. The tech support couldn't understand that the HR54 was at a different TV than the Gemini.
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Update: after 20 mins on phone with a non North American call center agent, they are sending a tech out. The tech support couldn't understand that the HR54 was at a different TV than the Gemini.
this is why we canceled support and the csr's are garbage even the american ones. it's still under the att system!!!
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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I Can't Help It (If I'm Still In Love With You) - B.J. Thomas
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Help Is On Its Way - Little River Band
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zippyfrog
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Phone & Tablet Zone
I feel like this was discussed in another thread, but I can't find it. I have T-Mobile and my last iPhone upgrade was in 2020. I want to get a new iPhone, but what is the best way to go about doing it? Should I order the iPhone from T-Mobile directly, or should I buy from the Apple Store? I feel like there are pros/cons to each option.
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navychop
I know of no reason to buy from a cell company.

Buying from Apple gets an unlocked phone.

PS- New models come out in Octoberish.
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I got a carrier-locked iPhone once, and it was a pain after they got bought by Sprint and I decided to go to T-Mobile and they dragged their feet to unlock the phone. I have been trading in my iPhones since and buying from the Apple Store since then.
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I have a Hopper with Sling. (Don't know exact model.) A couple nights ago, I went into the DVR screen, and noted that it was recording three programs. Yet I was able to view live TV (that was not one of the channels being recorded.) Did something change? In the past, it would only let me watch one of the channels being recorded, or any recording in the DVR menu. Maybe it was streaming, although there was no indication of that?

Apologies if this has been covered; I searched and didn't find anything.

Thanks.
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So I tested.

Started recording three non-network shows and tried to watch live TV, would not do it, because all three tuners were in use.

Started recording two non-network shows and one network show. Still would not let me tune live TV.

Started recording one non-network show and two network shows, then it allowed live TV.

I would assume then that previously I was recording two or three network shows when it allowed live TV; I honestly don't remember what it was doing, and I didn't think to check.

Thanks for replies, everyone.

PS - How does one know whether a program is streaming? Is there a way to force streaming?
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Bobby
So I tested.

Started recording three non-network shows and tried to watch live TV, would not do it, because all three tuners were in use.

Started recording two non-network shows and one network show. Still would not let me tune live TV.

Started recording one non-network show and two network shows, then it allowed live TV.

I would assume then that previously I was recording two or three network shows when it allowed live TV; I honestly don't remember what it was doing, and I didn't think to check.

Thanks for replies, everyone.

PS - How does one know whether a program is streaming? Is there a way to force streaming?
There is no way to force streaming. It is a satellite channel or streaming channel except for the rare occasion that the satellite signal fails. If that happens some, not all, channels will automatically change to streaming. You can tell if the channel is streaming by pressing guide on the remote. if it is a streaming channel the guide will clearly show it that way.
navychop
Cough, cough, Hopper3!
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There is no way to force streaming. It is a satellite channel or streaming channel except for the rare occasion that the satellite signal fails. If that happens some, not all, channels will automatically change to streaming. You can tell if the channel is streaming by pressing guide on the remote. if it is a streaming channel the guide will clearly show it that way.
Thanks, Bobby.
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chokes hopper 3 all the way... 16 tuners vs 3 tuners is a night and day difference. along with a faster processor. i would call in and see if they would upgrade me or you can buy a hopper 3 from solid signal.
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Smuuth
Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in SatelliteGuys Classifieds

WANTED  DirecTV LCC

Anyone have a DirecTV Local Channel Connector that you'd like to get rid of at a reasonable price? DirecTV is currently in a contract dispute with owner of my local ABC affiliate.
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b4pjoe
Anyone have a DirecTV Local Channel Connector that you'd like to get rid of at a reasonable price? DirecTV is currently in a contract dispute with owner of my local ABC affiliate.
You should ask DIRECTV for one if you are affected by the dispute. I know in the past they have given them out during a dispute. Not sure if they still do that but it is free to ask.
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You should ask DIRECTV for one if you are affected by the dispute. I know in the past they have given them out during a dispute. Not sure if they still do that but it is free to ask.
I already asked, but the CS agent said they wouldn't do it. They said the only thing they could do is $10/month bill credit.
Jimbo
I already asked, but the CS agent said they wouldn't do it. They said the only thing they could do is $10/month bill credit.
Take the $10 and Call Back ...
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Take the $10 and Call Back ...
I did that. The response was that the LCC is not available. Escalated the issue to a tech support person with the same results. 🤬
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I did that. The response was that the LCC is not available. Escalated the issue to a tech support person with the same results. 🤬
Could be out of them I guess ... I'd keep trying, every 3-4 days.

If they are not out of them as them WHY you can't get one, seeing Your in a Dispute. Thats what they are for.
I would make them give you a real answer, don't let them off the hook.


I had one, and it worked well, but I believe I gave it to another D* friend (also had a AM21), I know I gave them away ...
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Could be out of them I guess ... I'd keep trying, every 3-4 days.

If they are not out of them as them WHY you can't get one, seeing Your in a Dispute. Thats what they are for.
According to the tech support guy, they don't have any in stock. He said I should receive an email when and if they have them. I even told him I would accept a refurbished unit. 🙄
Jimbo
According to the tech support guy, they don't have any in stock. He said I should receive an email when and if they have them. I even told him I would accept a refurbished unit. 🙄
I'm not sure your going to find any Refurbished ones as D* doesn't ask for them back.
Smuuth
I'm not sure your going to find any Refurbished ones as D* doesn't ask for them back.
Yeah, I know. At one point, I even had 3 AM21s but gave them away when I got rid of my last HR54 and switched to the HS17.
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Good luck they haven't made them in years. you could poke around on ebay and see if there's any on there. if not why not a tablo or a zapper box with an antenna connected to it
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Good luck they haven't made them in years. you could poke around on ebay and see if there's any on there. if not why not a tablo or a zapper box with an antenna connected to it
I have my OTA antenna connected to my television directly already so watching is not the issue. The reason I want the LCC is so I could record programs if I'm not at home to watch them live, especially since ABC is carrying both the NBA and NHL playoffs.
I have an active search on eBay and there is one there but he wants $180 plus shipping and I am not going to pay that.
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I have my OTA antenna connected to my television directly already so watching is not the issue. The reason I want the LCC is so I could record programs if I'm not at home to watch them live, especially since ABC is carrying both the NBA and NHL playoffs.
I have an active search on eBay and there is one there but he wants $180 plus shipping and I am not going to pay that.
a tablo box is cheaper
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why invest in hardware that's going to be boat anchors in a few years?
zippyfrog
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Did anyone have a price increase today on their equipment? I own my VIP211k's, and they have been $5.00. My bill that I received last week shows the "add-ons" as being $5.00. However, I just logged into my Dish account, and my "add-ons" are now $10.00. Did the additional receivers go up by $5.00 recently?

As I mentioned, my last bill shows $5.00 and under the notes, nothing is mentioned about a price increase.
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Does cable charge box rent?
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Does cable charge box rent?
The cable company I was with years ago did charge $9.99 for a receiver.

RJ T.
From Illinois
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Did anyone have a price increase today on their equipment? I own my VIP211k's, and they have been $5.00. My bill that I received last week shows the "add-ons" as being $5.00. However, I just logged into my Dish account, and my "add-ons" are now $10.00. Did the additional receivers go up by $5.00 recently?

As I mentioned, my last bill shows $5.00 and under the notes, nothing is mentioned about a price increase.
I went to try to add the Heartland channel as dummy to see what it would do for me as I own my receiver and have DISH Outdoors and this is what mine shows. (Note however I had to take the 2nd receiver I told you I added the other day off because I was told you can only have 1 receiver when you have a one outlet on the Dish Playmaker and was having issues with the 2nd receiver and I didn't know that and that was done yesterday as well so I am back to one receiver.)

Let's upgrade your package.

Your monthly bill will increase by $6.00 per month.

Breakdown

June 11, 2026 - July 11, 2026
You are changing your programming in the middle of the bill cycle. The bill shown below is your bill for next month including prorations and credits. Your following bill will return to the fixed rate. This bill will take effect from now until July 11, 2026.
Monthly Services
$86.99

Flex Pack
$72.99
Local Channels
$14.00
Add-Ons
$68.98

National Action Pack
$12.00
Regional Action Pack
$12.00
News Pack
$10.00
Paramount+ with Showtime
$10.00
Drama and Classics Pack
$6.00
Heartland Pack
$6.00
Starz Encore Movies
$6.00
On DISH Magazine
$4.99
Starz 2 Mo ($11)
$1.99
Prorated Charges
$7.93

Heartland Pack Jun 11 - Jul 20
$7.93
Order Total
$7.93

Prorated Total
$7.93
Due Today
$7.93

Transition Bill Total
$156.10
Proposed Changes

Your monthly bill will increase by $6.00 per month
Monthly Services
$86.99
Add-Ons
$68.98
FCC Regulatory Surcharge
$0.13
Taxes & Surcharges
$0.00

Monthly Total
$156.10
Prorated Total
$7.93
Order Total
$7.93

Due Today
$7.93

Sounds like an issue with DISH Billing

RJ T.
From Illinois

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I asked again, and the rep I talked to said it is a glitch and that "Access for TV" shouldn't be there - the rep pulled up my future month bills and that charge isn't on it. So I am not going to worry about it right now, but it will be interesting to see when the price changes happen later this year. Will this line item show up? The fact that it is a specific item that is different from anything makes me think it is more than a glitch. But we shall see.
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I asked again, and the rep I talked to said it is a glitch and that "Access for TV" shouldn't be there - the rep pulled up my future month bills and that charge isn't on it. So I am not going to worry about it right now, but it will be interesting to see when the price changes happen later this year. Will this line item show up? The fact that it is a specific item that is different from anything makes me think it is more than a glitch. But we shall see.
I am hoping they don't add this down the road. Things are expensive the way it is now. Even DIRECTV allows the first receiver free. This would go against DISH and DISH is already loosing subscribers I wouldn't think they would do these kind of tricks but you never know. Always look at your bills for unknow charges. I heard horror stories of people getting charged for things they didn't know were there.

RJ T.
From Illinois
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Does cable charge box rent?
yes big cable charges crazy dvr fee's and box rental fee's
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Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks
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Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks
First off, great TV. I'm torn between the 77C5 or the 77G5.
It sounds like the handshake between the Receiver and the TV is having a problem. Are you using the free cable that came with the Joey or a higher speed HDMI cable?? That's the f irst place I'd look
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Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks
First off, The analog to digital switch, also known as the digital television transition, is the process of converting older analog television broadcasting technology to digital broadcasting. It's used through coaxial cable for the an antenna during the mandatory switch from Analog to Digital on June 12, 2009. You either had to get a converter for your analog (Tube TV) or use a converter box that has the analog or digital tuner or an HDTV which your is and has the tuner built in. Your TV is HD and using an HDMI Cable and nothing is connected by coaxial cable so this wouldn't apply.

In my theory it probably means a new TV. I had a TV go out on my switching between the Smart Screen from the HDMI inputs before because they went faulty. Sometimes electrical surges can cause this. If you have an older home or rent an older home or apartment sometimes the electrical outlets are not grounded and these days HDTV's need a ground which can cause them to malfunction and go bad quicker. Never plug it directly in an outlet. It will damage the TV.

Hope I could be of some assistance.

RJ T.
From Illinois
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First off, The analog to digital switch, also known as the digital television transition, is the process of converting older analog television broadcasting technology to digital broadcasting. It's used through coaxial cable for the an antenna during the mandatory switch from Analog to Digital on June 12, 2009. You either had to get a converter for your analog (Tube TV) or use a converter box that has the analog or digital tuner or an HDTV which your is and has the tuner built in. Your TV is HD and using an HDMI Cable and nothing is connected by coaxial cable so this wouldn't apply.

In my theory it probably means a new TV. I had a TV go out on my switching between the Smart Screen from the HDMI inputs before because they went faulty. Sometimes electrical surges can cause this. If you have an older home or rent an older home or apartment sometimes the electrical outlets are not grounded and these days HDTV's need a ground which can cause them to malfunction and go bad quicker. Never plug it directly in an outlet. It will damage the TV.

Hope I could be of some assistance.

RJ T.
From Illinois
Thank you for the information. I do keep the TV plugged into a surge protector, but we have had pretty strong thunderstorms/lightning in the last month so that have contributed to my problem.The house was built in 2009 so everything seems to be grounded correctly. We have had a power surge also. Seems like no one fixes anything any more, so just get a new one or live with the problem. Thanks
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First off, great TV. I'm torn between the 77C5 or the 77G5.
It sounds like the handshake between the Receiver and the TV is having a problem. Are you using the free cable that came with the Joey or a higher speed HDMI cable?? That's the f irst place I'd look
I think the HDMI cable is good, i used one of my own from my 4K atmos system, i'll switch it with another just to check. Also I have a bid in at Greentoe for 77" G5. Thanks
HipKat
I think the HDMI cable is good, i used one of my own from my 4K atmos system, i'll switch it with another just to check. Also I have a bid in at Greentoe for 77" G5. Thanks
I hope that works. I'm waiting til Black Friday sales
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I've had this problem with my older Sony TV. It happens when I just punch in a regular channel number. The only way it works right for me is to push guide and select a regular channel from the guide screen.
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House of the Dragon, the prequel to Game of Thrones, premieres on HBO Max on 8/21. I will be warching



View: https://youtu.be/fNwwt25mheo


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That was as bad as the rest of the show. Jean Smart was mostly invisible.
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I prefer the trailer for the movie adaptation of Mario Kart. At least that had Pedro Pascal in it.
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"A new line of unsullied kings" would seem impossible given the GoT definition of "unsullied". :biggrin
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