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Coming Soon: Titanium Satellite C1-PLL C-Band Phase Lock Loop LNBF

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Titanium Satellite proudly introduces the upcoming release of the C1-PLL Phase Lock Loop C-Band LNBF. The C1-PLL is the World's first PLL type C-band LNBF. The C1-PLL offers the simplicity of voltage controlled polarity selection with exceptional performance and stability required for reliable reception of S2, high FEC and narrow bandwidth satellite transponders.

This innovative single output model is developed using the latest PLL chipsets with a balance of gain, isolation, stability and amplification to produce a Phase Look Loop C-Band LNBF that outperforms all other C-Band LNBFs. All Titanium Satellite products are factory line tested multiple times to assure specification compliance and performance. In addition, all products are inspected by an independent third party service to insure complete manufacturing and performance compliance. Any product found not to meet our exacting "A" grade requirements is either reworked and certified to "A" grade performance or destroyed. Unlike competitors, there is no 2nd market for "B" grade Titanium products!

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We have all heard the comment, "Looks Aren't Everything". This statement is so true! The C1-PLL with the heavy cast aluminum mass and thick wall housing sports a glossy snow white color protective finish. This attractive finish with offsetting cool grey and black hardware not only looks great, but it also reduces overheating when exposed to direct sunlight. The natural color aluminum cooling fins also assist in dissipating heat from the electronics and body mass resulting in a lower operating temperature with increased performance.

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The craftsmanship, quality components and innovative design make the C1-PLL superior to any C-band LNBF available on the market. The C1-PLL is provided with a secure fitting, Royal Blue color feedhorn cover, dielectric slab insert for circular C-band reception and mounting hardware. The included universal flat type three ring scalar is tapped for mounting on button hook, three and four leg prime focus dish designs. An optional Titanium CS1 conical type scalar with a universal 68mm clamp is available for offset design dish mounting. All Titanium hardware is secured with the provided Allen Head type screws and key tool.

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Titanium Satellite also introduces to C-band LNBF production the waterproof, 3GHz, blue-insert, F-fitting coax connection. After noting the cheap coax connections used on several competitor C-band LNBFs which had clinch point damage after only a few insertions, we requested the manufacturer to source a component upgrade to a 3GHz fitting. Yes, the upgraded fitting costs 10 cents more, but why go cheap? :)

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While a traditional corotor design with the mechanical polarity controller provides increased performance and fine-tuning adjustments for overcoming interference and optimizing reception, many hobbyists and satellite viewers do not wish to be bothered with the additional expense, complexity and control limitations of this traditional feedhorn design. The C1-PLL is a simple way to increase performance and signal reliability of your BUD (Gig Ugly Dish) without breaking the bank! With the low MSRP of $45, the C1-PLL is a solid investment in improving your C-band system performance.

How does the C1-PLL perform? See how the Titanium C1-PLL C-band LNBF performed in this recent side-by-side shoot out on the 58w satellite, Intelsat 21. The C1PLL significantly outperformed the C2 LNBF, which is currently considered by satellite hobbyists to be the best C-Band LNBF sold. The C1-PLL is setting new performance standards for next generation C-band LNBFs!

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We will post the final product specifications, additional testing results, product information and photos as the release date gets closer. A dual output C2-PLL model has been developed and may be released in Q2, 2014. Our product offering and growth will be based on the initial product feedback and general market demand.

The C1-PLL has now been approved for production and will be available for purchase through an authorized reseller network during November, 2013. If you are interested in becoming a Titanium Satellite product reseller and receiving a C1-PLL for your own testing and review, please visit our website for contact information. Please Note: We are not taking consumer product information or sales calls. Customer Support telephone lines and emails will be available after November 1st, 2013.

Titanium Satellite looks forward to providing you with exceptional satellite products and excellent customer support!
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Titanium
looking forward to checking out the pll cband you folks are going to sell. my only concern is the 60db gain i prefer 65

I am highly doubtful that you would observe positive results or increased performance when comparing an identical LNBF outputting 60dB vs 65dB. Increased gains are realized in cleaner amplification, not increased output.

Most modern satellite systems do not benefit from increased amplification. Unless the system has poor quality distribution or excessive lengths of coax, increased amplification usually results in degraded signal quality and BER. In a typical system, the SNR (Signal to Noise Ratio) is not improved and in fact it is usually decreased at the end of a 125 - 150ft coax run.

I do observe a significant performance improvement when the amplification is set at a midrange of 60dB rather than increasing and raising the noise floor. Most modern receivers have great sensitivity and nothing is gained by increasing the signal level and decreasing the SNR.

...Also was the 15 degree k measured over the whole band or the best figure in the band?

It is an averaged and typical reading.

Facebook said available Nov was that 2013 or 2014 ? are there pre orders? when are they going to be for public sales?

2013. Dealers and reviewers will have production run units within the week. Retail units should be available the first few weeks of December. The actual date is up to US Customs! :D

Titanium website will open preorders for the C1-PLL at MSRP on 11/29/2013. It is up to the resellers to select the products and set their own launch dates.
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Is the contest still starting this week? What day?
Titanium
Yes, the Free C1-PLL Contest is still starting this week...
:everybodydance:Evening of November 27th :everybodydance:
:everybodydance::everybodydance::everybodydance::everybodydance:
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I am highly doubtful that you would observe positive results or increased performance when comparing an identical LNBF outputting 60dB vs 65dB. Increased gains are realized in cleaner amplification, not increased output.

Most modern satellite systems do not benefit from increased amplification. Unless the system has poor quality distribution or excessive lengths of coax, increased amplification usually results in degraded signal quality and BER. In a typical system, the SNR (Signal to Noise Ratio) is not improved and in fact it is usually decreased at the end of a 125 - 150ft coax run.

I do observe a significant performance improvement when the amplification is set at a midrange of 60dB rather than increasing and raising the noise floor. Most modern receivers have great sensitivity and nothing is gained by increasing the signal level and decreasing the SNR.



It is an averaged and typical reading.



2013. Dealers and reviewers will have production run units within the week. Retail units should be available the first few weeks of .

Thank you for the response you have diagnosis why i have that preference long old cable runs. agreed SNR is the measure why amplify noise and not clean signal amplification ? is it inherent to the amplification process from 60 to 65 ?
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The signal has to be at a certain level before anything can be done with it.

amplifiers ALWAYS amplify the noise along with the signal, its all on the same cable at the same time. its a good with the bad scenario.

so using a 60 or 65db gain amp wont improve your SNR, it just makes everything louder. Thats important on a very long cable run, but not necessary on 99% of users installs.

I dont know if Ive mentioned it in this thread or not but over the years when I used todo satellite installs professionally, 2-3x a day for a few years, I only ever used an amp once, and that was on an 800ft run of existing coax. Basically it was a large casino that had an allocated dishfarm on the roof. It was the only place I was allowed to put the dish. The coax from this farm was all RG6 and prerun. switching it to better coax was not feasable without adding a massive expense and time to the job. I used a powered amp / voltage inserter at the half way point. It was the ONLY case where more amplification was required.

If your running cable distances similar to that you might find a 65db lnb would eliminate the need for that inline amp over a 60db lnb. maybe. But I bet youd still have voltage switching issues, so your not really any better off

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Titanium
Thank you for the response you have diagnosis why i have that preference long old cable runs. agreed SNR is the measure why amplify noise and not clean signal amplification ? is it inherent to the amplification process from 60 to 65 ?

Clean processing is a separate issue. This is defined in many ways. Examples are isolation and noise ratio. Unfortunately, the marketing lies printed on most LNBFs of .1 or .2dB NR have resulted in this specification to be irrelevant! Example: it is not possible at this time to produce a consumer PLL LNBF with a NR below .5 or .6, yet other brands insist that their LNBFs are .1. LOL! Total marketing BS!

Amplifying the output at any level increases both the noise and the desired signals. There is a balance point where amplification is excessive and degrades the performance. Too much amplification and the tuner overloads, to little and the signal is degraded through a typical coax run.

I experience incredible performance when the amplification is dialed back even more (example: 50dB) using a short run and high quality coax. If the LNBF were sold that way to you, the performance would be terrible! The signal would be severely attenuated by your long and older cable run.

60dB is a great balance for a typical system. Nothing inherent occurs between 60 - 65dB. I just see the benefits decline for an average hobbyist's system when over amplified.
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Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Mexico takes on South Africa to open the World Cup Final (it is called the Final... this just isn't the World Cup Final... Final). The tournament has been plagued with rife malfeasance as FIFA has been committing all sorts of fraud with the ticket sales. Hotel rooms have gone unfilled as the prices to attend a game and stay somewhere are through the roof. I swear this is impacting Mansfield, OH hotel rates which are higher than average for the Indycar race. And there is a broadening VAR presence which will ruin things as nothing worse now when scoring a goal and knowing you can't quite celebrate yet as they check to see if a player was offside by a pixel a half-hour ago.

The Group Stage used to mean something, but now 32 of the 48... yeah, 48 teams are going to the Knockout Round. Getting into the Knockout Round used to be a big deal, even for the US. But now... if you don't lose all of your group stage games, you get to move on. Oi! And this is avoiding all the political stuff!

I have never been so unexcited for a World Cup before. Every game used to matter. But FIFA be darned if they don't try to squeeze out every dime they can out of the players, refs, and fans.
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I have no interest in watching it this year.
Bruce
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Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
I was reading this article


That said this-
Last summer, for the first time, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime claimed the largest share of the television viewing audience, surpassing both cable and broadcast TV. Streaming captured 34.8 percent of July viewers, according to Nielsen data, compared to 34.4 percent for cable and 21.6 percent for broadcast.

And then, sometime in the second half of 2022, cord-cutters became the majority. The share of cable and satellite television subscribers dipped to 48 percent, according to a report from Samba TV, a television technology company.


Now I do not consider those with YTTV and the likes, Cord Cutters, but they still do not have Traditional Cable/Satellite delivered Live TV, so I decided to do the math.

There are, now, 129 Million Households in the United States.

In 2015, there were 100 Million Cable/Sat Subscribers , no streaming Live TV Service.

Today, there are 66 Million Live TV subscribers, including Cable, Satellite and Streaming.

Roughly, Streaming Live TV has 14 Million subs including all of them.

So that means, Cable/Satellite now has, roughly, 51 Million Households

So in just 8 years, lost 49% of their subscribers and by the end of this year, expected sub count to be, roughly, 45 million households.

That means a total loss of 55% since 2015 at the end of 2023.

But out of 129 Million households, 45 million will mean only 35% will get Cable/Satellite Delivered Live TV by the end of 2023.

Imagine what 2024 will be like.
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Comcast Corporation, one of the largest telecommunications and media conglomerates in the United States, has shed more than 13 million pay-TV subscribers since reaching its zenith in the late 2000s. The company's video subscriber base, which includes traditional cable television services, stood at approximately 24.2 million customers toward the end of 2008. By the close of the first quarter of 2026, that figure had plummeted to roughly10.95 million, representing a loss of about 13.25 million subscribers, or more than half of its historical peak.

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Comcast Corporation, one of the largest telecommunications and media conglomerates in the United States, has shed more than 13 million pay-TV subscribers since reaching its zenith in the late 2000s. The company's video subscriber base, which includes traditional cable television services, stood at approximately 24.2 million customers toward the end of 2008. By the close of the first quarter of 2026, that figure had plummeted to roughly10.95 million, representing a loss of about 13.25 million subscribers, or more than half of its historical peak.


Couldn't happen to a nicer company!
Bruce
The average monthly cost of cable television in the United States has climbed to $147, marking a significant increase that reflects broader trends in media consumption and rising operational expenses for providers. This figure represents the baseline expense for standard television packages across major cable operators, excluding additional fees for premium channels, equipment rentals, or taxes that often push household bills even higher.

This is without Broadband services ( bundled), also, paying a lot more for a lot less new scripted content and now….sports.

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Anyone know how Canadians are doing with cord cutting? I would think there could be added incentive simply in that Canadian cable/sat has been heavily regulated to exclude much of US content in order to promote home content. Streaming would seem to cut through any of that, presuming there aren't restrictions on that as well. Or maybe US streamers won't sell there?
NYDutch
Anyone know how Canadians are doing with cord cutting? I would think there could be added incentive simply in that Canadian cable/sat has been heavily regulated to exclude much of US content in order to promote home content. Streaming would seem to cut through any of that, presuming there aren't restrictions on that as well. Or maybe US streamers won't sell there?
Some of the most popular streaming apps, like YTTV, Netflix, Hulu, and others, are geo locked to at least one country, if not even tighter. There are ways around that for the technically inclined.
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Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Anybody been following the Tournaments? I've been watching all weekend on the various ESPN's...
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Better team won tonight…
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Well crap. That wasn't fun. Oh well on to the CFL opener on cbs sportsnet.
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"In the end, there can be only one" - Duncan MacCleod of the clan MacCleod
dfergie
Last weekend I got in on a MLB game top of the 8th 1-1, first thought was extra innings... :D and it actually went extra after the 9th.
Catching a little of the AUSL, something to watch when I can't get into anything else.
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I watched some of the OKC Texas game on dvr this afternoon while visiting my mom. I had set it to record the season for her, but she has trouble with using the dvr and barely can use the live guide. Usually softball is the first suggestion YTTV puts up when she clicks the tile though, so it works well enough for her.
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Wasn't there a law passed a long time back mandating service providers level the sound from one ch. to the next? Or was that just for within any single given ch., and not letting commercials be boosted? Regardless it's a pain on DiSH with some ch's way louder than others, and having to jockey the sound up & down. Is there some fix? Can some TVs compensate for this?
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depend on how you tv and box is setup? as both have "audio" leveling

for me if I have audio leveling on hopper enabled DD is lower then Stereo if i turn off on h3 turn on tv it the reverse. Almost ALL streaming channels much lower volume level then statalite channels.

Either way one my pet peaves is that even channel seem to have it own "audio level" and so to commericals and none of the actual audio leveling functions actual fix this and never have. would be nice if every channel dish/dtv/fios etc all made volume level defualt to same dB so atlest all channel where consistent volume probably wont help commercials though.

To my knowledge no TV has ever had audio leveling function that actual fixed that all it really does it either lower or raise the volume
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depend on how you tv and box is setup? as both have "audio" leveling

for me if I have audio leveling on hopper enabled DD is lower then Stereo if i turn off on h3 turn on tv it the reverse. Almost ALL streaming channels much lower volume level then statalite channels.

Either way one my pet peaves is that even channel seem to have it own "audio level" and so to commericals and none of the actual audio leveling functions actual fix this and never have. would be nice if every channel dish/dtv/fios etc all made volume level defualt to same dB so atlest all channel where consistent volume probably wont help commercials though.

To my knowledge no TV has ever had audio leveling function that actual fixed that all it really does it either lower or raise the volume
maybe he should post his gear so we could look into it 🤔.. t.v. soundbars AVR whatever he's running.. our home theater has volume leveling but so does our soundbar in the bedroom:)
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maybe he should post his gear so we could look into it 🤔.. t.v. soundbars AVR whatever he's running.. our home theater has volume leveling but so does our soundbar in the bedroom:)

Most stuff has all this volume leveling, almost all them dont work the way should or advertised as. maybe "ai" versions of volume level will work closer to way we would like to which make all channels and inputs same defualt sound level, including commercials

There is reason my entire mp3/audio music collection on my pc was changed to have same defualt "dB" for all files via something like MP3Gain so there all same defualt volume level and there for I never have to play around with my volume. I know Winamp could change dB defualts but never worked as good as just manual changing all the audio/mp3/music collection files to just be all the same
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But doesn't music require a lot of dynamic range? At least classical & the like? So there has to be allowance for some highs without attenuation, and some lows without boosting. It seems there needs to be some kind of a universal median level that all sources can register to, that still allows for both soft and loud intermittently. My dad always had westerns on and the gunshots really rang out
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That's a fundamental issue with volume levels - it's not just that people want some "level" but that the material itself can demand (or at least so says the creator) a wide dynamic range or a smaller one. ie: do you boost the typical conversations upward and use most of your range just for voices? Or do you leave room for the explosions and jet engines. Creators and viewer/listeners all vary in their priorities, and most volume-leveling products are trying to do things in real time so they have very little context to work with. Even when using a tool that reads a whole file and displays a peak volume, you can wonder how often such a volume occurs and then you can disagree on how important it is for something like an explosion to have any clipping/distortion.

I think the OP refers to the Commercial Advertisement Loudness Mitigation Act, AKA the CALM act. But as the name suggests, I think it only has to do with commercials and not different sources.

By the way, if you watch westerns with realistic gunshot sound levels, I recommend hearing protection. :)
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I will say this on PC it worse one game is one volume level by defualt another is super quiet and another deafening loud, and volume leveling dont equalize it. The dynamic range isnt the problem the defualt volume is not same from channel to channel, commercial to commercial game to game.

To mean volume leveling is defeat volume level from source to source channel to channel, commercial to commercial, game to game.

Default volume level of 89.9 dB across the board fixes that tv providers can easily do this from there end and mandate commercial creators follow it, but it wont ever happen

Maybe volume leveling means somthing else to other people
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This only if anything seems to be worsening on DiSH. Ch. 215 is a prime example. It's typically much louder than other ch's, and today I notice it even contradicting itself, shifting drastically up and down inexplicably over periods of several minutes. Oddly, the quietest periods have come during commercials...
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Right on Time - Brandi Carlile
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Time Stand Still - Rush
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I Can't Help It (If I'm Still In Love With You) - B.J. Thomas
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Help Is On Its Way - Little River Band
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Little Band of Gold - Sonny James
Bobby
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
This is a thread that will keep you apprised of 4K events that will be showing on Dish channel 540. Keep looking here for information.

As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.
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Bobby
WC, Canada vs Bosnia and Herzegovina, Friday 6-12, 12PM PDT, Channel 540-01.
WC, USA vs Paraguay, Friday 6-12, 6PM PDT, Channel 540-01.
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WC, Qatar vs Switzerland, Saturday 6-13, 12PM PDT, Channel 540-01.
WC, Brazil vs Morocco, Saturday 6-13, 3PM PDT, Channel 540-01.
WC, Haiti vs Scotland, Saturday 6-13, 6PM PDT, Channel 540-01.
WC, Australia vs Türkiye, Saturday 6-13, 9PM PDT, Channel 540-02
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WC, Germany vs Curaçao, Sunday 6-14, 10AM PDT, Channel 540-01.
WC, Netherlands vs Japan, Sunday 6-14, 1PM PDT, Channel 540-01.
WC, Côte d'Ivoire vs Equador, Sunday 6-14, 4PM PDT, Channel 540-02.
WC, Sweden vs Tunisia, Sunday 6-14, 7PM PDT, Channel 540-02.
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WC, Belgium vs Egypt, Monday 6-15, 12PM PDT, Channel 540-01.
WC, Saudi Arabia vs Uruguay, Monday 6-15, 3PM PDT, Channel 540-02.
WC, Iran vs New Zealand, Monday 6-15, 6PM PDT, Channel 540-02.
Bobby
WC, France vs Senegal, Tuesday 6-16, 12PM PDT, Channel 540-01.
WC, Iraq vs Norway, Tuesday 6-16, 3PM PDT, Channel 540-01.
WC, Argentina vs Algeria, Tuesday 6-16, 6PM PDT, Channel 540-01.
WC, Austria vs Jordan, Tuesda6 6-16, 9PM PDT, Channel 540-02.
Gary Toma
Staff member Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum
The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
Additional tabs provide:​
OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D9S, D16
@103W.... D10, D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8​



See also

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
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604 Pursuit HD is testing

Women's US Open Out, Men's US Open and World Cup in

The World Cup Bracket on 205-6 and 407-2 will be repurposing CINEHD 154
(There will be a mix on one of the 205s and 407-1)

The Vegas specific slate for KTNV is repurposing Dispute Slide 1 Test 9109
lordodogg
604 Pursuit HD is testing
Interesting. I remember that being HD-only for a bit a long time ago and then it was back to SD-only.
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Interesting. I remember that being HD-only for a bit a long time ago and then it was back to SD-only.
looking at the old maps, that was from March 2017 to June 2019.
lordodogg
Starz is apparently dropping all of the west coast feeds of their networks tomorrow. FiOS has already dropped most of the ones they carried and I imagine DirecTV would be affected with STZw on 526 and SENw on 536.
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seems to actually only be affecting their sister channels, not the main channels
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Starz, Starz Encore and Starz Encore Westerns are keeping their west coast feeds. The rest of the Starz, Starz Encore and Plex channels will only have East coast feeds
zippyfrog
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Did anyone have a price increase today on their equipment? I own my VIP211k's, and they have been $5.00. My bill that I received last week shows the "add-ons" as being $5.00. However, I just logged into my Dish account, and my "add-ons" are now $10.00. Did the additional receivers go up by $5.00 recently?

As I mentioned, my last bill shows $5.00 and under the notes, nothing is mentioned about a price increase.
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Does cable charge box rent?
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Does cable charge box rent?
The cable company I was with years ago did charge $9.99 for a receiver.

RJ T.
From Illinois
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Did anyone have a price increase today on their equipment? I own my VIP211k's, and they have been $5.00. My bill that I received last week shows the "add-ons" as being $5.00. However, I just logged into my Dish account, and my "add-ons" are now $10.00. Did the additional receivers go up by $5.00 recently?

As I mentioned, my last bill shows $5.00 and under the notes, nothing is mentioned about a price increase.
I went to try to add the Heartland channel as dummy to see what it would do for me as I own my receiver and have DISH Outdoors and this is what mine shows. (Note however I had to take the 2nd receiver I told you I added the other day off because I was told you can only have 1 receiver when you have a one outlet on the Dish Playmaker and was having issues with the 2nd receiver and I didn't know that and that was done yesterday as well so I am back to one receiver.)

Let's upgrade your package.

Your monthly bill will increase by $6.00 per month.

Breakdown

June 11, 2026 - July 11, 2026
You are changing your programming in the middle of the bill cycle. The bill shown below is your bill for next month including prorations and credits. Your following bill will return to the fixed rate. This bill will take effect from now until July 11, 2026.
Monthly Services
$86.99

Flex Pack
$72.99
Local Channels
$14.00
Add-Ons
$68.98

National Action Pack
$12.00
Regional Action Pack
$12.00
News Pack
$10.00
Paramount+ with Showtime
$10.00
Drama and Classics Pack
$6.00
Heartland Pack
$6.00
Starz Encore Movies
$6.00
On DISH Magazine
$4.99
Starz 2 Mo ($11)
$1.99
Prorated Charges
$7.93

Heartland Pack Jun 11 - Jul 20
$7.93
Order Total
$7.93

Prorated Total
$7.93
Due Today
$7.93

Transition Bill Total
$156.10
Proposed Changes

Your monthly bill will increase by $6.00 per month
Monthly Services
$86.99
Add-Ons
$68.98
FCC Regulatory Surcharge
$0.13
Taxes & Surcharges
$0.00

Monthly Total
$156.10
Prorated Total
$7.93
Order Total
$7.93

Due Today
$7.93

Sounds like an issue with DISH Billing

RJ T.
From Illinois

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I asked again, and the rep I talked to said it is a glitch and that "Access for TV" shouldn't be there - the rep pulled up my future month bills and that charge isn't on it. So I am not going to worry about it right now, but it will be interesting to see when the price changes happen later this year. Will this line item show up? The fact that it is a specific item that is different from anything makes me think it is more than a glitch. But we shall see.
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I asked again, and the rep I talked to said it is a glitch and that "Access for TV" shouldn't be there - the rep pulled up my future month bills and that charge isn't on it. So I am not going to worry about it right now, but it will be interesting to see when the price changes happen later this year. Will this line item show up? The fact that it is a specific item that is different from anything makes me think it is more than a glitch. But we shall see.
I am hoping they don't add this down the road. Things are expensive the way it is now. Even DIRECTV allows the first receiver free. This would go against DISH and DISH is already loosing subscribers I wouldn't think they would do these kind of tricks but you never know. Always look at your bills for unknow charges. I heard horror stories of people getting charged for things they didn't know were there.

RJ T.
From Illinois
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I feel like this was discussed in another thread, but I can't find it. I have T-Mobile and my last iPhone upgrade was in 2020. I want to get a new iPhone, but what is the best way to go about doing it? Should I order the iPhone from T-Mobile directly, or should I buy from the Apple Store? I feel like there are pros/cons to each option.
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Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks
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HipKat
Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks
First off, great TV. I'm torn between the 77C5 or the 77G5.
It sounds like the handshake between the Receiver and the TV is having a problem. Are you using the free cable that came with the Joey or a higher speed HDMI cable?? That's the f irst place I'd look
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Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks
First off, The analog to digital switch, also known as the digital television transition, is the process of converting older analog television broadcasting technology to digital broadcasting. It's used through coaxial cable for the an antenna during the mandatory switch from Analog to Digital on June 12, 2009. You either had to get a converter for your analog (Tube TV) or use a converter box that has the analog or digital tuner or an HDTV which your is and has the tuner built in. Your TV is HD and using an HDMI Cable and nothing is connected by coaxial cable so this wouldn't apply.

In my theory it probably means a new TV. I had a TV go out on my switching between the Smart Screen from the HDMI inputs before because they went faulty. Sometimes electrical surges can cause this. If you have an older home or rent an older home or apartment sometimes the electrical outlets are not grounded and these days HDTV's need a ground which can cause them to malfunction and go bad quicker. Never plug it directly in an outlet. It will damage the TV.

Hope I could be of some assistance.

RJ T.
From Illinois
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