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CBS Chief Leslie Moonves Addresses Upcoming Negotiations With Dish Network

CBS chief executive Leslie Moonves says he is "open" to conversations with Dish Network's Charlie Ergen to resolve a dispute over the ad-skipping Hopper. "When Dish negotiations come up next year, something will have to be resolved," he said. "We will not allow them to have a service that takes out commercials."

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Dish is losing customers every quarter -- it is the greedy demands of CBS and ESPN that is driving them away. I might just go with a Roku and Netflix if it keeps going up like this.
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mitchflorida said:
Dish is losing customers every quarter...
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Has my memory failed me again? :eek: I thought they gained customers during the last quarter.
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Interesting article from Businessweek about channel costs and the whole bundling debate: http://www.businessweek.com/article...able-bundling-and-higher-bills-wont-stop-soon
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TheKrell said:
Has my memory failed me again? :eek: I thought they gained customers during the last quarter.
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Naysayers like to repeat that ad nauseam in hopes that when they repeat enough, people will believe it's the truth.
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dangue
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Hall said:
Naysayers like to repeat that ad nauseam in hopes that when they repeat enough, people will believe it's the truth.
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Except that it is the truth. Dish gained customers this past quarter.
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dangue said:
Except that it is the truth. Dish gained customers this past quarter.
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The "truth" being referred to is that "Dish is losing subs every quarter". People just throw out blanket statements hoping they will stick.
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loubon said:
Interesting article from Businessweek about channel costs and the whole bundling debate: http://www.businessweek.com/article...able-bundling-and-higher-bills-wont-stop-soon
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I'd like to see a sat/cableco offer the same bundles they buy. For example, instead of AT120, AT250, Everything Pack, or whatever Dish offers, sell the "Viacom" bundle and the "Disney/ESPN" bundle and the "Discovery Bundle". So if Viacom is forcing Dish to buy MTV2, Palladia, and Tr3s(?) in order to get Nick & Comedy Central, subscribers have to do the same thing. It's basically "ala carting" the bundles.
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dare2be said:
The "truth" being referred to is that "Dish is losing subs every quarter". People just throw out blanket statements hoping they will stick.
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I think he should of said : " In the past , DISH has had a history of losing subs more quarters, than not ." and it would of been true. Besides they didn't add but 35,000 and I think that could of been due to the CBS spat with TIME Warner. Time lost like over 300.000 subs in the last quarter and they have since added CBS back. DISH could easily reverse this trend of adding subs next quarter or after the yearly price hikes kick in again come February. After all ,DISH has had a programming price hike and an equipment price hike on their Hopper fees in the same year. That could catch up with them by first or second quarter of next year. Not to be negative towards DISH ,but I don't think this one quarter of increasing additions is an ongoing trend.
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sam_gordon said:
I'd like to see a sat/cableco offer the same bundles they buy. For example, instead of AT120, AT250, Everything Pack, or whatever Dish offers, sell the "Viacom" bundle and the "Disney/ESPN" bundle and the "Discovery Bundle". So if Viacom is forcing Dish to buy MTV2, Palladia, and Tr3s(?) in order to get Nick & Comedy Central, subscribers have to do the same thing. It's basically "ala carting" the bundles.
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A Sat/Cable Co wouldn't be in business very long, because consumers would really be bitching if they had to buy all the crap from every provider to get the one channel that they want. Today's forced bundles are not much more flexible, but at least with the tiers there is some savings, buy not having to pay for all the niche channels in the top packages.

The problem remains having to pay for channels that you don't want at all. Now if the media groups would break it down into Disney Sports, Disney Kids, Disney Family, CBS Sport, CBS Kids, CBS Drama, NBC Sports, NBC Kids, NBC Drama, Viacom Kids, Viacom Drama, Viacom Family, Fox Sports, Fox Kids, Fox Drama, etc and allow just purchasing a few of those small bundles, that would be making some progress.

These media groups are too big and keep creating more and more niche channels to dilute their programming libraries more and more. Forcing more and more junk upon the consumers and the consumers have no say in it. It is a take it all or leave it all notion, there is no common ground that benefits both consumers and providers equally or even somewhere close to equally.

Buying the programming by media group accomplishes nothing because every group has at least a dozen channels of crap that you would still be forced to buy. Sure I can skip all the junk Viacom sells that I have never tuned too in over 15 years with Dish, but I would still be forced to pay for a dozen channels of other stuff I've never tuned to from Disney, just to get espn for the 4 months a year I might watch a game on it
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MikeD-C05 said:
I think he should of said : " In the past , DISH has had a history of losing subs more quarters, than not ." and it would of been true. Besides they didn't add but 35,000 and I think that could of been due to the CBS spat with TIME Warner. Time lost like over 300.000 subs in the last quarter and they have since added CBS back. DISH could easily reverse this trend of adding subs next quarter or after the yearly price hikes kick in again come February. After all ,DISH has had a programming price hike and an equipment price hike on their Hopper fees in the same year. That could catch up with them by first or second quarter of next year. Not to be negative towards DISH ,but I don't think this one quarter of increasing additions is an ongoing trend.
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I don't think Dish or any provider can keep hiking equipment fees to make up for the skyrocketing and inflexible programming bundles and costs. More flexible programming bundles from the media groups would go a long way in soothing consumer backlash, but they just see an all or nothing dollar sign and want to use the consumers as pawns in retransmission deals.

Whether I can afford it or not, my perceived value of it has reached it's limit. I've adjusted my equipment and programming to the point that me personally don't think it is worth anymore than I am paying now. I know others will disagree and say they will pay anything to watch the NFL or college football or The Walking Dead, but I'm not in that boat.
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osu1991 said:
A Sat/Cable Co wouldn't be in business very long, because consumers would really be bitching if they had to buy all the crap from every provider to get the one channel that they want. Today's forced bundles are not much more flexible, but at least with the tiers there is some savings, buy not having to pay for all the niche channels in the top packages.

The problem remains having to pay for channels that you don't want at all. Now if the media groups would break it down into Disney Sports, Disney Kids, Disney Family, CBS Sport, CBS Kids, CBS Drama, NBC Sports, NBC Kids, NBC Drama, Viacom Kids, Viacom Drama, Viacom Family, Fox Sports, Fox Kids, Fox Drama, etc and allow just purchasing a few of those small bundles, that would be making some progress.

These media groups are too big and keep creating more and more niche channels to dilute their programming libraries more and more. Forcing more and more junk upon the consumers and the consumers have no say in it. It is a take it all or leave it all notion, there is no common ground that benefits both consumers and providers equally or even somewhere close to equally.

Buying the programming by media group accomplishes nothing because every group has at least a dozen channels of crap that you would still be forced to buy. Sure I can skip all the junk Viacom sells that I have never tuned too in over 15 years with Dish, but I would still be forced to pay for a dozen channels of other stuff I've never tuned to from Disney, just to get espn for the 4 months a year I might watch a game on it
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I bet you most customers are already doing this though. I have AT250 because of 2-3 channels. I might watch another 2-3 of them, but if those went away I wouldn't mind. Out of the 250 channels we get, there's probably a dozen, maybe 18 channels that we watch with any regularity. So yes, I'm paying for a bunch of crap that I don't watch.

Sure, it would be nice break the bundles down into more individual packages, but what's the benefit for the media groups? Why should they agree to it? I would like to see Dish "break the mold" and create bundles based on something other than whatever they do now.
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I did away with At250, then went back for the early CFl games, but those became so far in between, i said the heck with it a month or so ago. It's not worth another $10 a month to watch a few shows on DIY or the infrequent CFL game on NBCSN. All of DIY's stuff will be replayed on HGTV in 2 to 3 months and Dish has a free preview of the various AT 250 channels every month, so it's loses more of it's perceived value. My need for FS1 will diminish in 3 weeks when Big 12 conference football games are done, so I may even go down to AT120.

I think the biggest trial Dish could do would be to get all the espn's up into the AT 200 package where all the other sports channels are and then drop the price of AT120 another $10 and see what happens.

The media groups are greedy, and just like with the music industry they are going to keep pushing and squeezing their audience until their audience says enough is enough and drops them altogether, when if they had just adapted and become a little more consumer friendly, their business would flourish instead of being in a downward spiral.
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osu1991 said:
I did away with At250, then went back for the early CFl games, but those became so far in between, i said the heck with it a month or so ago. It's not worth another $10 a month to watch a few shows on DIY or the infrequent CFL game on NBCSN. All of DIY's stuff will be replayed on HGTV in 2 to 3 months and Dish has a free preview of the various AT 250 channels every month, so it's loses more of it's perceived value. My need for FS1 will diminish in 3 weeks when Big 12 conference football games are done, so I may even go down to AT120.

I think the biggest trial Dish could do would be to get all the espn's up into the AT 200 package where all the other sports channels are and then drop the price of AT120 another $10 and see what happens.

The media groups are greedy, and just like with the music industry they are going to keep pushing and squeezing their audience until their audience says enough is enough and drops them altogether, when if they had just adapted and become a little more consumer friendly, their business would flourish instead of being in a downward spiral.
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I agree 100% with that. Something has got to give sooner or later. By the way I am an Ok State fan come Saturday!!!!!!
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2026-27 NCAA College Football

Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Best fan sign I saw during the ND-BYU game: "Bear ate your Lucky Charms!" (Bear being the Cougars' QB). I was going to suggest, "Have you or your team been involved in a Carr crash?"
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
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Yup, I agree, I'd rather be 2 or 3 till the last few weeks.
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NFL 2026-2027 Season

Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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www.nbcsports.com

Troy Aikman seems to confirm he'll be leaving ESPN

Aikman says he looks forward to "where my next landing spot will be."
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www.nbcsports.com

Troy Aikman seems to confirm he'll be leaving ESPN

Aikman says he looks forward to "where my next landing spot will be."
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
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After having experienced Gus Ferguson trying to call soccer games, I'm uncertain why NFL football analysts get hate. Even the "worst" of them are pretty good.
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Jalen Hurts out indefinitely as they treat and monitor a superficial blood clot in his leg.


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Browns lead the AFC North 🤣

Seth Meyers What GIF by Late Night with Seth Meyers
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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
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Colts relieve general manager Chris Ballard of his duties

Colts Owner & CEO Carlie Irsay-Gordon released a statement Monday announcing the news.
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Peter Parker
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DISH Hopper 3 Software Version 713 Is Out

No idea what improvements might be involved.
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Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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bookworm370 said:
Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
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My wife mentioned that her remote is acting strange this morning. She hit FF and it went to 15x FF.
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My wife mentioned that her remote is acting strange this morning.
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Had a customer call recently saying their remote was really acting up, some buttons no longer functioned. Told them to reboot the Hopper....problem fixed.
Wife bought me a t-shirt that has "have you tried turning it off and on again?"

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dishstaller said:
Wife bought me a t-shirt that has "have you tried turning it off and on again?"
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Here's the one I need:
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Foxbat said:
Here's the one I need:
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Just ordered one....that's great.
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naptime said:
I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
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They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
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Oh, you mean "soon"? :biggrin
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jsmit86 said:
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
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I guess they will be busy when lots of people start asking for rollbacks to H708 now that you mention that downgrades of software does exist because it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner and the IR Remote problems in H710-H713.
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Almighty1 said:
it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner
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RTX Spark: NVIDIA's AI PC Powerhouse Details! #shorts

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!


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SuperDish_Fan23
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Its crazy how the ViP922 is so rare for no reason.

Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.
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Well if it is because of reliability that wouldnt shock me.I went through 5 or 6 of them in little over 2 years. I loved the Sling when it worked! Saved lots of money having it in the day. That was probably 15 or 16 years ago?
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HipKat said:
I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.
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I don't recall that they came out just before hopper, but rather that they came out even before 722. Or could be thinking of 921.

As to the title pf the post, "rare" does not necessarily mean valuable or desirable.
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telstar_1 said:
I don't recall that they came out just before hopper, but rather that they came out even before 722. Or could be thinking of 921.

As to the title pf the post, "rare" does not necessarily mean valuable or desirable.
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You are thinking of the 921. The 922 was the first DVR with Sling functionality built in (that was eventually disabled along with the Sling Adapter for the 722s and the 1st Hopper because they relied on now-defunct Adobe Flash technology). With the bugginess described by others and the removal of its marquee feature (Sling) the 922 faded into obscurity once the Hopper 2 with built in Sling was released and they finally made the concept into a fully functional product.
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I had one, the front panel lighting was cool, the menus were fresh and a lot more modern looking than the ViPs. However, it was very buggy and the Sling functionality just didn't work well - I think it was due to internet speeds at the time. I think I had to pay $40 for the Sling app on my phone iirc.
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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Take It To The Limit - The Eagles
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ClarkGable said:
Take It To The Limit - The Eagles
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The two instances of "The" should have been highlighted.

Take Me to the River - Talking Heads
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Blinded By The Light - Manfred Mann's Earth Band
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I Saw The Light - Todd Rundgren
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"You Can See Everything" Is 1 of the Century’s Best #shorts

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!


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What's For Lunch?

We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so... :)
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
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Two Chicago style hot dogs and a Fanta orange soda.
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Little mini pepperoni pizza, green beans, apples and chocolate milk.
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Fanta orange soda.
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Garlic cheese bread
Green beans
Apples
Chocolate Milk
Some weird noodles. ;)
(They have salad and a couple other fruits if wanted)
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Club sandwich and corn chowder. Iced tea.
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Chili dog bowl, water… (homemade chili)
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Stargate SG-1 Discussion

Stargate SG-1 cancelled, Atlantis renewed
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Monday - August 21, 2006 | by Darren Sumner
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The future of Stargate is in question today, as SCI FI Channel has cancelled the long-running Stargate SG-1, Multichannel News reported today and a GateWorld source has confirmed. The news regrettably follows the airing of the show's milestone two-hundredth episode on Friday.

Stargate Atlantis, meanwhile, has been renewed for a fourth season, with the network hoping to see that the spin-off series can stand alone, according to a source.
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The Tokra pt 1, I know pt 2 will be next...
(came across on Pluto tv live, went to media server for "clean" version)
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I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
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Watch Stargate SG-1 for Free Online | Pluto TV

Stargate SG-1 picks up where the blockbuster film left off as the SG-1 team sets out to explore the mysteries of the Stargate and the worlds beyond it in the pulse-pounding series which became a worldwide phenomenon and a science fiction classic. Stream Stargate SG-1 for free on Pluto TV.
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reubenray said:
I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
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Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
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long_time_Dish said:
Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
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Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
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