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kylegordon
Last reply · posted in Free To Air (FTA) Discussion
Hi all,

I'm fresh and new to the DVB-S2 world, but I have 15 years of experience with Linux... so it *should* be a simple query!

I recently bought a Prof Revolution S2 7500 USB direct from their store, with the expectation of using it on a headless server in the loft, serving via TVHeadend. LinuxTV wiki suggests all would be fine if I use the firmware from a random Russian website, and use Ubuntu 12.04. This I have done, and I find that it's useless after a reboot unless I re-plug the USB connection or power cycle the tuner. I've asked Prof Tuners directly twice now, via tech support and via marketing about both getting a more recent firmware file (the Russian site version is 4 years old), or these "Linux drivers" that they claim to have in the marketing material. When you use Debian 6 or 7, or Ubuntu 12.10, 13.04, or 13.10, random i2c errors are guaranteed during channel scans, and I've not tested custom kernels yet. I also appreciate there's patches available for kernels, but there's no detail about what kernel to apply to, what V4L framework they're for, etc.

Does anyone have any success in communicating with this company this year, or getting support and working hardware from them? I'm <--> this close to doing a chargeback if they continue to fail to respond :-(

Rant over, thanks for reading this far :-) Please tell me if I'm wrong in all this!

Cheers

Kyle
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dhubsith
First of all Kyle, your startup messages look good to me. All the right things are in the kernel, and everything gets started like it should. You should be able to tune something at that point, if the dish is aimed correctly. I am getting the same messages you are. The firmware I have is the c8d554f9850b1a691032ba4b003a18a0 version, I don't think there's anything wrong with it, don't know about the other one. I can get both C and Ku band, DVB-S or DVB-S2 QPSK on a 6-ft disk with a dual-band LNBF.

My problem is that I can't get ANY 8PSK channels at all on the Prof 7500. Has anybody else been able to lock a DVB-S2/8PSK channel? I am using scan-s2 (with crazycat's patches applied) to try to scan it, I can find QPSK channels but not 8PSK. I use (a modified) dvbstream with mplayer to receive (if there is anything there that will lock), but if scan-s2 can't see it, neither can dvbstream. Kernel is 3.12.

I've been all over the FE_SET_PROPERTY/FE_GET_PROPERTY stuff, I think I understand what they're doing, and it looks like 8PSK SHOULD work, just set DTV_DELIVERY_SYSTEM and DTV_MODULATION before you issue the ioctl. But it doesn't work. Anybody got any suggestions?
updatelee
works for me. You can see examples of how I set FE_SET_PROPERTY in tune-s2 and updateDVB on my bitbucket repo, just google my name and you'll find it.

Im using a highly modified kernel though, you can find that there too if you want to try it. If you use any exsisting apps with my kernel you'll need to recompile them to get them to work and some tuners are having issues with using dvb api v3 with my kernel. I never looked into it much cause imo no one should be using v3 anymore.

UDL
dhubsith
I have the latest tune-s2 (bb391...) and to get it to compile I changed DTV_DVBS2_MIS_ID to DTV_STREAM_ID in tune-s2.c and commented out DC-II, C-QPSK etc in tune-s2.h. Here are the results I get, first for a DVB-S channel (PBS on AMC1):

tune-s2 4091 V 14029 -lnb CBAND
LNB: low: -5150 high: 0 switch: 0
opening: /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0
LOW band

Tuneing specs:
System: DVB-S
Frequency: 4091 V 14029
22khz: OFF
Modulation: QPSK
FEC: AUTO
Inversion: AUTO
Rolloff: AUTO
Pilot: AUTO
MIS: -1

Tuned specs:
System: DVB-S 5
Frequency: 4092 V 14028
22khz: OFF
Modulation: QPSK 0
FEC: AUTO 9
Inversion: AUTO 2
Rolloff: AUTO 3
Pilot: AUTO 2
MIS: -1

status Locked | signal 88% | snr 14.4 db | ber 0 | unc 0 | FE_HAS_LOCK

Here I try to tune an 8PSK channel (ION on AMC1)

tune-s2 4040 H 30000 -lnb CBAND -system DVB-S2 -modulation 8PSK
LNB: low: -5150 high: 0 switch: 0
opening: /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0
LOW band

Tuneing specs:
System: DVB-S2
Frequency: 4040 H 30000
22khz: OFF
Modulation: 8PSK
FEC: AUTO
Inversion: AUTO
Rolloff: AUTO
Pilot: AUTO
MIS: -1

Tuned specs:
System: DVB-S2 6
Frequency: 5150 H 0
22khz: OFF
Modulation: 8PSK 9
FEC: AUTO 9
Inversion: AUTO 2
Rolloff: AUTO 3
Pilot: AUTO 2
MIS: -1

status Unlocked | signal 89% | snr 13.7 db | ber 3595777 | unc 5575 |

The interesting thing is that the frequency it ends up trying to tune is the LO frequency (5150). In any event, it doesn't lock. Not sure what to try next, I have been leaving FEC, Inversion, Rolloff, and Pilot at AUTO.
kylegordon
Quick update - the device went back to Prof Tuners.

I emailed asking about "Linux support" and never got a reply. Firmware gleaned from a Russian forum and 3rd party forum isn't my idea of badged, marketed, advertised support. I persevered a bit more with different kernels, firmwares, etc, and then tried it on a Windows 7 desktop with their official drivers, recommended software, etc, and it displayed exactly the same behaviour. It would fail to tune to anything, and wouldn't pick any signals up off a known good source.

Emailed them asking to return it for a refund, I would pay return postage, etc, and by 2 weeks they never replied. Opened a case with Paypal, more weeks passed, and then Prof Tuners said via Paypal to return it within 6 working days... whilst I was on holiday over Christmas. Paypal kindly extended the returns period, I got it sent back, and then Prof Tuners seemed to refuse to believe it had been sent. I sent Paypal photos of the receipt, tracking number, and a screenshot showing it had been signed for and delivered to their address, and finally I got my money back from Paypal.

Clearly they make products that work, as evidenced in this forum. Maybe I got a broken one. Whatever happened, their customer service is appalling, and I won't hesitate in thoroughly recommending people to avoid them. Now that I have my money back, it's time to look at alternatives.

I really appreciate the time that people spent trying to help out! Many thanks for that, and apologies for not testing it on a verified (read: Windows) platform earlier.
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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Juan
Not alot of dish customers any more
Foxbat
I'm not a big fan of the new layout, especially on my Apple TV. It used to look like the old Guide layout on the Hopper 3, but they changed parts of that, too.
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Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
A big win for the Patriots, and they are now 3-2.

Browns lose a close one with... The Jets. That is a classic Browns loss (granted, any loss is a classic one it seems). 49'ers, Vikings, and Chiefs remain undefeated. The AFC north have a three way tie at 3-2 for second place. :eek:
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
After having experienced Gus Ferguson trying to call soccer games, I'm uncertain why NFL football analysts get hate. Even the "worst" of them are pretty good.
meStevo
Jalen Hurts out indefinitely as they treat and monitor a superficial blood clot in his leg.


View: https://x.com/RapSheet/status/2111074303185989663?s=20
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dishstaller
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I had quit watching this show years ago because I ended up more annoyed than entertained. Well......I'm STILL more annoyed than entertained. I DO find it interesting to see how things work behind the scenes at many businesses. What annoys me is how utterly out of touch CEOs are with the companies they run. At the end of almost every episode the head of the company is amazed at how hard the employees have to work and many times have to work around impossible guidelines set forth from headquarters.

I found this one interesting because the new CEO had big plans for this company, Muscle Maker Grill, and it looked like the stores were all pretty busy. Recent history hasn't been good to this company however. I bet the covid lockdowns were the real killer.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIhZm0qkz0o
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Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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White Wedding - Billy Idol
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White Christmas - Elvis Presley
dishstaller
Dirty White Boy - Foreigner
Bobby
Tickle Me (Dirty, Dirty Feeling) - Elvis Presley
dishstaller
Dirty Diana - Michael Jackson
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Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
Anony55
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
For quite a while now, people with a VIP211k have been losing their recordings on their activated external HDDs... even when there's nothing physically wrong with HDD. I believe this is an intentional and underhanded tactic that Dish is pulling in an attempt to force users away from the VIP211k.

They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.

Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.

On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.

It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.

I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.
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Nebugeater
Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally
Former member 208119
Class action.
a hopper 3 with 6 firesticks and or if you wanna spend even more money apple tv's
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Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally
Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.
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Nebugeater
Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.


Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion
Anony55
Well, after nine months of being on pause, I finally figured out that I was wasting $5 a month. So I cancelled. For the first time since 2010, I no longer have a Dish account.

I do have to say that I did appreciate the account pause option. That just gives a person some time to see what the fallout of cancelling will be... without having to go all the way over the cliff first.

Since I never once had an "oh shoot, I need Dish Network for..." moment, the decision was a lot easier.

Funny enough, when I called to cancel (for real, not playing the pricing game), all of a sudden, they were offering me deals that I was told before that I couldn't get without changing out my VIP211k. Now, I could have had those specials with them just sending me a new card for the receiver. LOL!

Of course, my mind was already made up because of having not missed the service while on pause. That, and the fact that I bet the 211k still kills recordings.

All in all, I'm glad that I had Dish for all those years. I just outgrew the need, and they pressed the issue by deleting recordings. I would have eventually went this route without the deleted recordings issue. But, for sure, that did hasten the outcome.

I'll still pop in at this site from time to time. Believe it or not, I still have a C/Ku BUD that I intend on playing with again if life ever slows down.
dishstaller
Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion
Unless things have changed at Dish, which is entirely possible, they won't activate the 211, even as a replacement. I gave one to a customer a while back....which when I turned it off I made sure to tell the CSR I wanted it freed up so another customer could use it, I was assured it was.....and when they called to swap out there's they were told it couldn't be done. Now like I said, things MIGHT HAVE CHANGED.
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Former member 209992
Last reply · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center
For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Scott Greczkowski
Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. :D
Foxbat
Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. :D
WTF… …What the Foxbat!😱
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zipping right along here
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WTF… …What the Foxbat!😱
wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you :biggrin
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wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you :biggrin
I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:
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I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:
OMG to freaking funny :biggrin
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comfortably_numb
I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:

Not likely since that place closed down.
TheRatPatrol
Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Jimbo

Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
Jimbo
Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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Howard Simmons
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
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meStevo
Oh weird, it was I think a 20 minute version of this.


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Weird F1 weekend is already over with a Saturday race.
dfergie
Tried to watch the truck race but the stage c**p is why I don't watch NASCAR anymore…
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Today is the anniversary of Dan Wheldon's passing at Las Vegas in a dreadful crash that luckily didn't take more drivers' lives. I vaguely remember the crash, but I more strongly remember Paul Tracy trying to keep it together as he left the Medical Center knowing that Dan most likely wasn't going to.

The safety in these vehicles is beyond incomprehensible, especially relative to what it was 60 years ago, when dying wasn't unexpected. But it is still very dangerous. I always scoff at the prayer invocations, but never scoff at the risks these drivers take and the emergency workers out there who might need to pull short of a miracle to save a driver's life.
Tried to watch the truck race but the stage c**p is why I don't watch NASCAR anymore…
HBO Max has the live in car streaming without commercials, which provides an interesting take, but you are driving blind, knowing only what the team is telling the driver about what is happening on the track. The stages definitely ruin the NASCAR set up.