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Digital Dude
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This is the second time this has happened in just over a month. I sub to NHL Center Ice and live 2200 miles from my favorite team as you can tell from my avatar.

Earlier this week I did a search for Sharks hockey SJS feed like I do every week and set my 722 to autotune to the Sharks feed.

I've met and/or talked to the broadcast team several times over the years and REALLY enjoy their broadcasts. I left DirecTV for Dish years ago because Dish showed home and away feeds for games and DirecTV didn't at that time.

Today I checked the scheduled events and the autotune for the Sharks game that was listed on channel 887 (SJS) just said "NHL CENTER ICE" instead of "Ducks at Sharks (SJS)".

I called Dish and the rep "Keisha" stated the feed was blacked out. I called her BS as the SJ feed is listed on DirecTV's website!

Keisha reiterated that the feed was blacked out, I said "Really, for a game 2200 miles away that is being broadcast on DirecTV and Cable systems Nationwide?"

I also emailed Comcast Sports Net Bay Area about Dish dropping the Sharks feed, a home game no less, less than 24 hours before faceoff. This is the reply from CSNBA
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Dear Brian,

Thank you for your inquiry regarding tonight's Sharks game. I'm not as familiar with the blackout requirements for Center Ice so I'll look into it (though I probably won't get very far until Monday when people are back in the office). As far as I know, we only blackout on our network channel and don't blackout Center Ice. I'll check with both Center Ice and Dish Network, but as far as I know (especially if DirecTV has our broadcast up), I'd think you should be able to get it on Dish Center Ice as well. But again, I'm not totally sure and I'll check. And, of course, Go Sharks!

Best Regards,
Ben

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So WHY is the default response of Dish CSR's "It's blacked out" when they don't know their rear end from a hole in the ground and, when provided proof they still LIE rather than man up and tell the real reason? It's not like they don't have the bandwidth at 10:30 PM eastern when the vast majority of Sports HD feeds on RSNs etc have been shut down.

We suffered thru 7 weeks of losing our NBC affiliate without calling to complain ask for a discount etc yet I get lied to every time Dish pulls a fast one on Center Ice?



Is anyone else getting bald faced lies when they call in?
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Rangers484
It may be too late for this season but I reccomend NHL Gamecenter Live over NHL Center Ice on Dish. All games are carried except those blacked out because they are on National TV. You get home and away feeds and I can watch them live or delayed. This is my 2nd season with Gamecenter after 3 seasons with Center Ice through DISH. Wouldn't dream of going back at this point.
rvvaquero
What's hockey?
S
This is the second time this has happened in just over a month. I sub to NHL Center Ice and live 2200 miles from my favorite team as you can tell from my avatar.

Earlier this week I did a search for Sharks hockey SJS feed like I do every week and set my 722 to autotune to the Sharks feed.

I've met and/or talked to the broadcast team several times over the years and REALLY enjoy their broadcasts. I left DirecTV for Dish years ago because Dish showed home and away feeds for games and DirecTV didn't at that time.

Today I checked the scheduled events and the autotune for the Sharks game that was listed on channel 887 (SJS) just said "NHL CENTER ICE" instead of "Ducks at Sharks (SJS)".

I called Dish and the rep "Keisha" stated the feed was blacked out. I called her BS as the SJ feed is listed on DirecTV's website!

Keisha reiterated that the feed was blacked out, I said "Really, for a game 2200 miles away that is being broadcast on DirecTV and Cable systems Nationwide?"

I also emailed Comcast Sports Net Bay Area about Dish dropping the Sharks feed, a home game no less, less than 24 hours before faceoff. This is the reply from CSNBA
____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Dear Brian,

Thank you for your inquiry regarding tonight's Sharks game. I'm not as familiar with the blackout requirements for Center Ice so I'll look into it (though I probably won't get very far until Monday when people are back in the office). As far as I know, we only blackout on our network channel and don't blackout Center Ice. I'll check with both Center Ice and Dish Network, but as far as I know (especially if DirecTV has our broadcast up), I'd think you should be able to get it on Dish Center Ice as well. But again, I'm not totally sure and I'll check. And, of course, Go Sharks!

Best Regards,
Ben

____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________


So WHY is the default response of Dish CSR's "It's blacked out" when they don't know their rear end from a hole in the ground and, when provided proof they still LIE rather than man up and tell the real reason? It's not like they don't have the bandwidth at 10:30 PM eastern when the vast majority of Sports HD feeds on RSNs etc have been shut down.

We suffered thru 7 weeks of losing our NBC affiliate without calling to complain ask for a discount etc yet I get lied to every time Dish pulls a fast one on Center Ice?



Is anyone else getting bald faced lies when they call in?

If you go to mydish.com and use the Game Finder, you will see EXACTLY what the Dish CSRs see. Nobody is deliberately lying to you. They are telling you what the GameFinder tool tells them. I'm sorry that not every Dish CSR is enough of a hockey fan to know every game and every blackout, but what they tell you is what they know. If you don't like it, complain higher up the food chain, and stop taking it out on the phone reps.

And if you say "They should ask their boss", well, their boss has the same tool. And the boss' boss has the same tool. Others here who know far more about hockey have suggested that setting up a timer too early will show the wrong channel. I can't say whether that is right or wrong, but if it is right, perhaps checking the GameFinder on the website on the day of the game would be a wise idea.
Hall
And if you say "They should ask their boss", well, their boss has the same tool.
They (the customer) should also check their priorities if they think making that big of a deal out of a game is so important.



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jrbdmb
They (the customer) should also check their priorities if they think making that big of a deal out of a game is so important.
If the customer has paid Dish $168 (appr.) for Center Ice it seems reasonable that they get to see the games they paid for. Why does that bother you?

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If the games continue to be blacked out in error it is much easier to pursue this issue with the broadcasting the games (or even the NHL) and work it from that end. I've never heard of anyone going through Dish CS and getting to contact the Dish "blackout department", and as you've seen Dish CS themselves do not know anything about blackouts.

A few years ago Dish started incorrectly blacking out Red Sox games in western Connecticut - any attempts to contact Dish about this issue got the same non-response. Subs had to go through NESN to get the issue resolved.

http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/170131-Blackout-question-NESN-in-western-CT

Foxbat
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Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
Apple has finally released their Apple TV 4K with built-in Siri and a microphone so it can respond to your queries even if you don't have the remote. It also increases in price, to $299. I had been planning on updating my current Apple TV 4K streamers, but that's $600 for the two of them, and that's a pass at this point.

At $299, it had better come with 256 GB of Storage, Gigabit (or better) Ethernet, the latest HDMI tech and standards, and one year of free Apple One. But it probably won't…
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Ronnie-
Meh. The 4Ks I have will do everything that these do that I need them to do.


Which that's most tech these days for anything released the last four to five years.


It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.
navychop
It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.

Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.
navychop
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
KAB
KAB
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!
S
Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.
they all do that anyways.. ever notice your cell phone slows down when you come up for an upgrade.. :what. apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
ncted
ever notice your cell phone slows down when you come up for an upgrade
No. Makes me wonder if that is Apple or the carrier. I am on pre-paid, so I never get "an upgrade." I still have my old iPhone 11 Pro as a second line, and it runs iOS 27 just fine. My iPhone Air, which is still a current model, doesn't really seem that much faster in regular use. It is better in other ways, and worse in some ways than the 11 Pro (size), but performance really isn't a big differentiator, especially since I replaced the battery in the 11 Pro. If I had gotten enough storage when I originally bought the 11 Pro, it could still be my primary device with no issues.
ncted
Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!
Yeah, they boot up a bit slower than Roku, but the OS does a lot more, so it makes sense. How often are you booting them up that is a differentiator? Aside from OS updates, mine are on all the time. I will say the ATV4K is generally quicker than the Roku Ultras I have, when it comes to launching apps and responsiveness, not that the Roku is sluggish.
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apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while

What software? For iPhones? I tried to buy some image s/w IN THE APPLE STORE! They had none, and could not offer ANY s/w for iPhones
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osu1991
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Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
dishstaller
Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
But.....if you like Tulsa King....looks like you would probably like this as well. I don't mind spin-offs as long as they don't involve a sassy niece who moves from the big city :rolleyes:
T
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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Juan
Not alot of dish customers any more
Foxbat
I'm not a big fan of the new layout, especially on my Apple TV. It used to look like the old Guide layout on the Hopper 3, but they changed parts of that, too.
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dishstaller
I really dislike change for the sake of change
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Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Jimbo

Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
Jimbo
Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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Would you rather have LaRoche ???
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
Jimbo
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.

It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.
dishstaller
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Last reply · posted in Movie Talk
Might be worth a watch when it comes out. Looks like typical big corp against the little guy movie BUT....there is a reason this plot type is so oft repeated, it draws audiences.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-f9OGsKHd4
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dishstaller
BTW, I noticed right after I posted this that someone else had already mentioned it....sorry for the duplicate thread. Still looking forward to seeing the movie.
meStevo
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If you're going try to read / listen to the book (can't recommend the audio book enough) before this comes out, I'd avoid trailers.

Trailer below, spoiling it to make sure you read the above bold message first. The book / audio book are fantastic. Go into this blind if you can IMO!




Kind of disappointed at how much they show. A lot still to see, but man, some good reveals in the book that are just served up here.
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I've seen it twice. Can't recommend the audio book enough, Ray Porter's performance is amazing and there's so much more in the book than the movie.
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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
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K
Forgot to comment. I did watch when it first came out on MGM. I enjoyed it a lot. I think reading the book made it easier to watch. Several friends commented it was a little hard to follow.
TRG
TRG
"astrophage". I read the book but didn't see the film yet.
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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
That's what I will be watching this weekend.🤗
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K
Kindle book on sale for $2.99 today at Amazon.
dishstaller
.........there's so much more in the book than the movie.
I agree. That can go for pretty much any book vs movie. Back when I was single I would read any Stephen King or John Grisham book I could get my hands on. When you read a book you make up the scenes and characters in your mind.....the movie version always disappoints.