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Hello. Been lurking here for a few days absorbing all the great info. I've learned quite a bit and got a lot of questions answered just by reading the questions/answers of others. A few things Im still wondering about however. I've always been a "cable guy", but I've decide to try satellite. DirecTV seemed to have the upper hand. My setup will be a 4 TV system (Internet will be through local cable company still). After a brief web chat with a Direct rep, I was told I'd be getting a Genie with 3 clients (mini's).
To make this simple, I've pre-wired everything while the house was down to the studs. 2 RG6/2 Cat5e/2 HDMI to each TV terminating at a wall place with keystone jacks. There are other runs throughout the house for various other items terminating at wall plates/jacks, but they ALL run to a central drop point where I currently have my network closet with the various distribution setups. I've got 6 RG6 (solid core) and 12 Cat5e lines running to the attic at various spots so I'd cover all possibilities of where the heck they're going to mount this Dish. (Overkill I know…..but its not all just for TV) There's more than enough slack up there on all those coax lines to go wherever they needed to be. All of THOSE runs pass right next to the fuse panel/grounding center for the home and also drop into the network closet.
Any coax that I left open ended I did not compress fittings on yet as I thought the installer would probably prefer to do that part himself as he can terminate the run where its best suited to be at the closet. I think I've got a pretty good understanding of about 90% of how this DirecTV setup will go, but I'm still confused on the power injector/switches/splitter (something about a SWiM 8 that was recommended I get that would handle my setup). I've checked into that a bit, but maybe I need some clarification.
Its my understanding the the newer dishes only require 1 drop from the dish (granted your equipment is the more recent/new end). I know there are plenty up there that could be used, but I'd imagine the technician will only use what is needed? Thats where I get a bit lost. That drop from the attic needs to split somehow for the 4 TV's. 3 of the coax runs will go directly to the TV's (for the Genie Clients mounted on back of wall mounted TV's) and the third will go the network closet. I think thats where this SWiM 8 (or SWM8) piece comes into play correct? And then some kind of power injector/power source? Where will those items be placed? The Genie itself will most likely go up near the main TV, but I'd like to keep it in the network closet and run it off my IP2IR controllers. We will see I guess.
I'm extremely picky and particular about my home network/automation setup. I've spent a great deal of time organizing thousands of feet of low voltage cable/data runs throughout my home before I buttoned it all up. I did leave some PVC access tubes to grant access between floors/wall/attic/etc if there was a need to add more lines from the network closet to wherever really.
Please feel free to correct me where I need correction in my assumptions and thinking on this DirecTV install.
To make this simple, I've pre-wired everything while the house was down to the studs. 2 RG6/2 Cat5e/2 HDMI to each TV terminating at a wall place with keystone jacks. There are other runs throughout the house for various other items terminating at wall plates/jacks, but they ALL run to a central drop point where I currently have my network closet with the various distribution setups. I've got 6 RG6 (solid core) and 12 Cat5e lines running to the attic at various spots so I'd cover all possibilities of where the heck they're going to mount this Dish. (Overkill I know…..but its not all just for TV) There's more than enough slack up there on all those coax lines to go wherever they needed to be. All of THOSE runs pass right next to the fuse panel/grounding center for the home and also drop into the network closet.
Any coax that I left open ended I did not compress fittings on yet as I thought the installer would probably prefer to do that part himself as he can terminate the run where its best suited to be at the closet. I think I've got a pretty good understanding of about 90% of how this DirecTV setup will go, but I'm still confused on the power injector/switches/splitter (something about a SWiM 8 that was recommended I get that would handle my setup). I've checked into that a bit, but maybe I need some clarification.
Its my understanding the the newer dishes only require 1 drop from the dish (granted your equipment is the more recent/new end). I know there are plenty up there that could be used, but I'd imagine the technician will only use what is needed? Thats where I get a bit lost. That drop from the attic needs to split somehow for the 4 TV's. 3 of the coax runs will go directly to the TV's (for the Genie Clients mounted on back of wall mounted TV's) and the third will go the network closet. I think thats where this SWiM 8 (or SWM8) piece comes into play correct? And then some kind of power injector/power source? Where will those items be placed? The Genie itself will most likely go up near the main TV, but I'd like to keep it in the network closet and run it off my IP2IR controllers. We will see I guess.
I'm extremely picky and particular about my home network/automation setup. I've spent a great deal of time organizing thousands of feet of low voltage cable/data runs throughout my home before I buttoned it all up. I did leave some PVC access tubes to grant access between floors/wall/attic/etc if there was a need to add more lines from the network closet to wherever really.
Please feel free to correct me where I need correction in my assumptions and thinking on this DirecTV install.
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I was watching some of this guy's stuff and realized some of you may not be familiar. Basically his show is Candid Camera meets a magician. This is a comp of a few of his exploits. I first learned of him when I was out at a meeting in Denver about 10yrs ago. The men I was sitting at the table with started talking about this show and said it was one of the funniest things they had seen. When I got home I started watching it....yes, it is funny.
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This started a couple months ago. I have 2 H3s on one network, both with 2 EHD identical 3 TB seperately powered so all recordings are accessible by all 4k & J4s (8 of them).
On one H3 (not the main one that controls the MOCA network), after it reboots, it doesn't recognize it has two EHDs plugged into it. Rebooting the EHD by their power source doesn't fix it. Resetting the network doesn't. Software h3 reset doesn't fix it. Rebooting MOCA h3 doesn't fix it but so far, after 3+ cold boots (unplug pwr to H3 with unrecognized EHDs), it finally it figures out they are plugged into it. BUT.... Then when you open a program it only partially shows series and episodes, but instead of showing recordings, it only shows upcoming airings. HELP!!!!
On one H3 (not the main one that controls the MOCA network), after it reboots, it doesn't recognize it has two EHDs plugged into it. Rebooting the EHD by their power source doesn't fix it. Resetting the network doesn't. Software h3 reset doesn't fix it. Rebooting MOCA h3 doesn't fix it but so far, after 3+ cold boots (unplug pwr to H3 with unrecognized EHDs), it finally it figures out they are plugged into it. BUT.... Then when you open a program it only partially shows series and episodes, but instead of showing recordings, it only shows upcoming airings. HELP!!!!
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Thanks JohnGalt1234 - That's interesting. I wonder are the Boot Strap versions different between a Hopper 3 only and a Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus setup as I have the later. I guess when charlesrshell is able to since he has both setups, he can do the test. Unless the bootstrap version is tied to when the specific Hopper 3 is manufactured, in my case, mines is from February 2016 when it was installed.
At least Google Search AI is saying the bootstrap version will never change and unique to each Hopper 3.
This is probably why different people seem to either have the issue or they don't because the bootstrap code could also be tied to the hardware revision and
components other than the internal HD.
At least Google Search AI is saying the bootstrap version will never change and unique to each Hopper 3.
This is probably why different people seem to either have the issue or they don't because the bootstrap code could also be tied to the hardware revision and
components other than the internal HD.
JohnGalt1234 - So you basically have 2 Hopper 3's. The CasinoH3 is the one that is Hopper 3 only while Master Bedroom is a Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus setup.
Master Bedroom uses Android TV (ATV) software so the DISH part is actually a app and will behave differently as you can probably tell the Guide's are different on the Master Bedroom which will resemble the same guide used on other ATV devices such as the Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4. If I am correct, the CasinoH3 is the one with the problem since you did say the one dated 09/05/2026 is the naughty one while 08/15/2026 named Master Bedroom is the nice one. Usually I would expect the CasinoH3 to be the one without the problem because it's Hopper 3 only and Master Bedroom would be the one with problems because it has the Hopper Plus involved. That is why they behave differently because CasinoH3 is running the native Hopper 3 software while Master Bedroom is running the Android TV software and also it runs a app called DISH known as package com.dish.atv.launcher, the version for mines is P15403 2026100917 so it's probably the same version as the Hopper Plus software version with the date of October 9, 2026, not sure what the 17 means except maybe revision 17?
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Master Bedroom uses Android TV (ATV) software so the DISH part is actually a app and will behave differently as you can probably tell the Guide's are different on the Master Bedroom which will resemble the same guide used on other ATV devices such as the Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4. If I am correct, the CasinoH3 is the one with the problem since you did say the one dated 09/05/2026 is the naughty one while 08/15/2026 named Master Bedroom is the nice one. Usually I would expect the CasinoH3 to be the one without the problem because it's Hopper 3 only and Master Bedroom would be the one with problems because it has the Hopper Plus involved. That is why they behave differently because CasinoH3 is running the native Hopper 3 software while Master Bedroom is running the Android TV software and also it runs a app called DISH known as package com.dish.atv.launcher, the version for mines is P15403 2026100917 so it's probably the same version as the Hopper Plus software version with the date of October 9, 2026, not sure what the 17 means except maybe revision 17?
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Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
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So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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@110W.... D5
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Nah, you just don't understand how ignore works, which is why you made your own NFL thread thinking there wasn't one
Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.
I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Tony as the director.
Would you rather have LaRoche ???Tony as the director.
No. Bring in someone new.
Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...No. Bring in someone new.
Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)
Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.
Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.
It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.
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Please post your remote make/model here and any details of your issue. We are looking to collect as many examples as possible. I may reach out to you for your receiver number, but please do not post it here.
If you've already reported this to me, please repost it here so I can track all instances in one thread.
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If you've already reported this to me, please repost it here so I can track all instances in one thread.
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I was having similar issues last night while watching and recording the NLCS game on 148. When I tried resuming the game at one point the screen went blank and I couldn't get my H3 to respond to any remote commands. Eventually the Hopper went to a HD channel but still no remote response. After a while the Hopper went into a re-boot cycle. This happened at least 3 times. I was using an IR universal remote only.
A little frustrating to have the game broken up like that but at least the Brewers won
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