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Sean Mota

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Last reply Feb 4, 2004 · posted in Old VOOM News and Developments Archive

VOOM give us INHD & INHD2 before Feb 15th...

It looks like the All Star NBA game will be televised on INHD. So far no announcement of any other carrier or channel. So it is imperative that VOOM gives us this channel before 2/15 if we want to enjoy the NBA All Star Game in HD.

Here's the announcement at AVS forum: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=351479

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Sean Mota

Jan 14, 2004

I want my News-HD (not just weather maps). BTW, I have lots of problems with Newsbytes tonight. No picture and dropping sound and picture. We are supposed to get a snow storm tonight but no sign of snow tonight.

Sean Mota

Jan 14, 2004

Source

You would think that with an ad like this VOOM would have the personnel to start NEWSBYTES-HD.

VARIOUS HD NEWS PRODUCTION JOBS

Various HD News Prod. Jobs Employer: HD News Location: Woodbury Duration:
Full time, starts ASAP VOOM is the brand name of an exciting new High
Definition home satellite delivery system. VOOM will beam a schedule of
movies, sports, culture, lifestyle, animation and news into subscriber
homes. The news channel of this home satellite network is called VOOM
Newsbytes HD. Voom Newsbytes HD is a high technology news operation with a
dedicated staff specifically assigned to this news operation. ·News Anchors
who enjoy writing and have producer capabilities will be a primary presenter
of stories and other content for all platforms in a manner that is clear,
engaging, and meaningful to news consumers. Ensure all content meets Network
standards for journalistic integrity and production quality. Must have
superior on-air performance, exceptional ability to build and lead teams,
excellent organization and time management skills, and excellent
communication and interpersonal skills. News reporters who will be based in
Dallas, Miami, New York, Chicago and LA, who are great story tellers,
efficient self producers and self starters. ·Newscast line producers, who
can tell great stories of universal interest who have strong writing skills,
as well as Sports producers good newscast time management, great people
skills, a love for innovating with new technology. ·Weather producer who has
demonstrated talents in graphics production. ·Award winning news
photographers, also to be based in Dallas, Miami, New York, Chicago and LA.
Must have stunning skills with the vision to take advantage of the High
Definition visual environment and apply it to news footage. ·Graphic artists
to be based in Long Island who are skilled and ready to take news graphics
to the higher visual level of HD. ·Creative newscast directors with
impressive technical and creative abilities. Oversee productions for
creativity and quality control. Work with producers to execute details of
effective productions and propose improvements and innovations. ·Studio and
control room technicians operating production equipment and performing other
duties associated with a production environment. Apply to: Cara Mancini, HD
News, 1 Media Crossways, Woodbury, NY 11797, Att: Cara Mancini Makeover
Field Producers Employer: Hurricane Entertainment Location: NYC
Duration: 13 weeks, starts Decemeber
Looking for Experienced! Energetic! Flashy! Field Producers to shoot behind
the scene makeovers for "STYLE COURT". Serious consideration will be given
to candidates with a combination of solid field, writing, ability to direct
talent and editing backgrounds. Makeover Experience is a must! Please
forward resumes to: Pamela Hadden Supervising Producer stylecourt@aol.com
Apply to: Pamela Hadden
Email: stylecourt@aol.com

JaydeeD

Jan 14, 2004

Thats interesting

Duration: 13 weeks, starts Decemeber

(taken from the end of the above press release)

The Job only lasts 13 weeks?
Maybe Voom plans to be out of business in March....LOL

Sean Mota

Jan 14, 2004

Thanks for picking this up. Why only 13 wks? You would think that an all news channel will need a permanent staff. Speculations...What's wrong with that picture?

Sean Mota

Feb 4, 2004

INHD has become a must have channel take a look at these upcoming programs (taken from HDTV Magazine).

E!s LIVE FROM THE RED CARPET : ACADEMY AWARDS®TO MAKE ITS DEBUT IN HIGH DEFINITION TELEVISION (HDTV)

EIGHT HOURS OF LIVE RED CARPET COVERAGE FEATURING HD, WIDESCREEN VERSION TO BE CARRIED NATIONALLY ON INHD

Los Angeles, CA – February 2, 2004 -- Live From The Red Carpet:Academy Awards®, E! Entertainment's signature pre-show coverage of the Oscars® featuring Joan and Melissa Rivers, will be broadcast for the first time in widescreen HDTV on Sunday, February 29, 2004 marking E!s entry into the HDTV arena as well as a partnership with INHD, announced Mindy Herman, President & CEO of E! Networks and Rob Jacobson, Chief Operating Officer of INHD parent company, iN DEMAND Networks.

Live Countdown to the Academy Awards® (12 –6 p.m. (ET)) and Live From The Red Carpet:Academy Awards® starring Joan and Melissa (6 – 8 p.m. (ET)) will be broadcast outside of the Kodak Theater prior to the start of the 26th Annual Academy Awards and will be carried in standard definition on E! and simulcast in HDTV on INHD.

During the live two-hour preshow, hosts Joan and Melissa Rivers will reveal the entertainment industry's hottest stars on the Red Carpet as never seen before in widescreen, HD format on INHD. Joan and Melissa will report live from the red carpet, interviewing nominees, presenters, and other celebrities arriving for the ceremony.

"The Academy Awards continues to be the biggest live event of the year for E! Entertainment Television and entertainment enthusiasts around the globe," said Herman. "This first project with In Demand marks our foray into the burgeoning HDTV market, and the Oscars® red carpet represents an exciting way to truly explore the benefits and features of the technology."

"We're thrilled to be collaborating with our partners at E! Entertainment Television to broadcast this major entertainment event to a national audience," added Jacobson. "This partnership reflects INHD's ongoing commitment to deliver the best marquee entertainment that cable has to offer to the growing number of cable households with HDTV service."

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INHD AND PGA TOUR WILL BROADCAST LIVE FROM AT&T PEBBLE BEACH NATIONAL PRO-AM GOLF TOURNAMENT
INHD Will Air "Live@7" Both Live and Taped Coverage of Famed Par 3 7th Hole at Pebble Beach Golf Links on February 5th and 6th

New York – February 2, 2004 – INHD -- the 24-hour linear all high-definition network -- and the PGA TOUR have reached an agreement that allows INHD to present live high-definition coverage of Pebble Beach Golf Links' famous 7th hole during the 2004 AT&T Pebble Beach National Pro-Am Tournament. The announcement was made by David Asch, Vice President of Strategic Planning & Product Management, iN DEMAND Networks, and Donna Orender, Senior Vice President of Strategic Development for the PGA TOUR.

The "Live@7" broadcast will feature live tournament play from the Pebble Beach Golf Links' par-3 7th hole on Thursday, Feb. 5th and Friday, Feb. 6th from 1:30 pm – 3:00 pm ET. Additionally, INHD will also broadcast five hours of taped coverage of tournament play on the 7th hole on Feb. 5 and 6 beginning at 9 pm ET.

The 106-yard 7th hole is among the most famous and picturesque holes in all of golf, and coincidentally, those same attributes also make it the perfect setting for HDTV's superb picture quality and resolution. The shortest hole in major championship golf, the green is protected by six bunkers and partially surrounded by rocks leading into the Pacific Ocean. With a significant tee-to-green drop and full exposure to the Pacific Ocean, the wind becomes the major factor on the hole. Players have used a sand wedge on one day of the tournament and a six-iron on another day.

Jay Randolph and Mitch Voges will be stationed at No. 7 and provide commentary throughout the telecast. Entire-day coverage of the 7th hole will be simulcast live on the Internet, similar to PGATOUR.COM's innovative "Live@17" during THE PLAYERS Championship. Check at PGATOUR.COM for details.

"This is a terrific opportunity for INHD to team up with the PGA TOUR, and for golf fans with HDTV sets tuned to INHD to experience the action on the seventh hole with the added picture clarity and resolution that is only possible with HD," said INHD VP, Strategic Planning & Product Management David Asch. "This partnership reflects INHD's continuing commitment to bringing cable's HD audience the best marquee sporting events cable has to offer."

"The PGATOUR is always enthused about marrying new technologies that can enhance our unique and compelling content," Orender said. "Golf is the perfect sport to take advantage of high definition's ability to bring the vibrancy of the game to life. We're pleased to partner with INHD to present this emerging format to our fans during the AT&T Pebble Beach National Pro-Am, at one of the most scenic and exciting holes in golf."

Played at Pebble Beach Golf Links, Spyglass Hill Golf Course and Poppy Hills Golf Course, the AT&T Pebble Beach National Pro-Am has become one of the most famous golf tournaments in the world. Featuring the top PGA TOUR stars playing with major celebrities from the entertainment and sports worlds such as Kevin Costner, Oscar de la Hoya, Bill Murray, Joe Pesci and Ray Romano, among others, the AT&T Pebble Beach National Pro-Am is among the oldest stops on the PGA TOUR, dating back to 1937.

Net proceeds from the AT&T Pebble Beach National Pro-Am go to support a wide variety of charitable organizations. To date, the Monterey Peninsula Foundation, which stages the tournament, has made charitable donations totaling $46 million.

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INHD AND UNITED STATES OLYMPIC COMMITTEE REACH HIGH DEFINITION TELECAST AGREEMENT

USOC and IOC Allow INHD to Convert Historic Original & Official Archival Films

To High Definition Format for Exclusive Broadcasts on INHD; Many Celebrated Performances and Rarely Seen Moments in Olympic History

Agreement Furthers INHD's Commitment to Unique, Top-Quality Programming

New York, February 02, 2004 – INHD, the new 24-hour linear high definition network, and the United States Olympic Committee (USOC), have reached an exclusive, multi-year agreement to restore, transfer, convert and broadcast -- in high definition format -- official archival films from more than 16 Summer and Winter Olympic Games, it was announced today.

The agreement marks the first time the USOC – under the auspices of the International Olympic Committee (IOC) and the Olympic Television Archive Bureau (OTAB) -- has allowed these priceless official films to be converted to high definition format. In fact, representatives of the IOC and OTAB have escorted the footage from around the world to INHD's transfer facility to monitor the process.

INHD will next be televising the high definition-formatted footage on February 8, 2004.

While many of the films being transferred to high definition are the official Olympic films shot and produced by world-renowned Olympic historian Bud Greenspan and Cappy Productions, a significant portion of the library gathered by INHD is one-of-a-kind official films from various individual host-country Olympic archives.

"This is not just sports programming, but truly historical programming that in many cases has rarely, if ever, been seen by U.S. television audiences in any format, not to mention high definition," said Rob Jacobson, Chief Operating Officer of INHD. "We're extremely pleased that the USOC and the IOC has entrusted INHD with the high def conversion and exhibition of these invaluable films. We, along with our conversion facility, Global Vision in Montreal, are painstakingly handling this with the utmost care."

"The USOC is very proud of our heritage and the significant mark U.S. teams and athletes have made in the world of sport," said Keith Allo, Chief of Entertainment Properties and Brand Marketing, USOC. "Most of these films were shot in a 16:9 ratio, so it should be a real treat for Americans to have this unique opportunity to relive some of the greatest moments in Olympic history in the wonderful format of HD."

Films from the Olympic Games scheduled to be transferred to high definition and televised by INHD include: the 1948 London Games (the first post-WWII games); the 1948 St. Moritz Games (Gretchen Fraser becomes first American to win gold in Skiing); the 1956 Melbourne Games (USA's Bobby Morrow wins three gold medals in Track & Field); the 1960 Rome Games (featuring Cassius Clay and Wilma Rudolph); the 1960 Squaw Valley Games (the first gold medal for the U.S. in ice hockey); the 1964 Tokyo Games (Bob Hayes becomes the "World's Fastest Human"); the 1964 Innsbruck Games (the Austrian Army saves the Games by trucking snow and ice to competition sites); 1968 Mexico City Games (Bob Beamon and Dick Fosbury and the "Fosbury Flop"); the 1972 Munich Olympics (Mark Spitz's seven gold medals); the 1972 Sapporo Games (the first Winter Olympics held outside Europe or the U.S.); the 1976 Montreal Games (Nadia Comaneci's "Perfect 10" achieves gold); 1976 Innsbruck Games (19-year-old Dorothy Hamill wins Gold in Figure Skating); the 1980 Lake Placid Olympics (the "Miracle on Ice" for USA Hockey); the 1984 Los Angeles Games (USA dominates in Communist-block boycott); the 1988 Seoul Games (Greg Louganis' double-gold in diving; Florence Griffith-Joyner dominates the sprints); and the 1992 Barcelona Games (the first USA Basketball Dream Team).

Additionally, INHD will convert and televise in high definition the official 1980 Moscow Olympics Film. Many Western nations, including the United States, boycotted the first Olympics to be held behind the "Iron Curtain" as a result of the Soviet Union's invasion of Afghanistan. Much of this competition's historic footage has never been seen in the U.S.

"The conversion of these films will bring to life historic and world-famous athletic performances in the way only high definition on digital cable can," continued Jacobson. "INHD has made it priority one to secure the best programming available for our digital cable distributors and viewers. Whether it be live sports -- like baseball or basketball -- or unique sports programming like these official Olympic films, INHD continues to prove its unique value in this mega-multi-channel world."

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Scott Greczkowski

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge

Last reply 38 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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Tickle Me (Dirty, Dirty Feeling) - Elvis Presley

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Anony55

Last reply 38 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

DISH Has Made it Impossible to be a VIP211k Owner

For quite a while now, people with a VIP211k have been losing their recordings on their activated external HDDs... even when there's nothing physically wrong with HDD. I believe this is an intentional and underhanded tactic that Dish is pulling in an attempt to force users away from the VIP211k.

They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.

Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.

On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.

It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.

I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.

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Nebugeater

Dec 22, 2025

Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally

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tparker

Sep 30, 2026

Nebugeater said:
Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally

Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.

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Nebugeater

Oct 2, 2026

tparker said:
Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.

Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion

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Anony55

Yesterday at 6:18 PM

Well, after nine months of being on pause, I finally figured out that I was wasting $5 a month. So I cancelled. For the first time since 2010, I no longer have a Dish account.

I do have to say that I did appreciate the account pause option. That just gives a person some time to see what the fallout of cancelling will be... without having to go all the way over the cliff first.

Since I never once had an "oh shoot, I need Dish Network for..." moment, the decision was a lot easier.

Funny enough, when I called to cancel (for real, not playing the pricing game), all of a sudden, they were offering me deals that I was told before that I couldn't get without changing out my VIP211k. Now, I could have had those specials with them just sending me a new card for the receiver. LOL!

Of course, my mind was already made up because of having not missed the service while on pause. That, and the fact that I bet the 211k still kills recordings.

All in all, I'm glad that I had Dish for all those years. I just outgrew the need, and they pressed the issue by deleting recordings. I would have eventually went this route without the deleted recordings issue. But, for sure, that did hasten the outcome.

I'll still pop in at this site from time to time. Believe it or not, I still have a C/Ku BUD that I intend on playing with again if life ever slows down.

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dishstaller

Today at 11:31 AM

Nebugeater said:
Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion

Unless things have changed at Dish, which is entirely possible, they won't activate the 211, even as a replacement. I gave one to a customer a while back....which when I turned it off I made sure to tell the CSR I wanted it freed up so another customer could use it, I was assured it was.....and when they called to swap out there's they were told it couldn't be done. Now like I said, things MIGHT HAVE CHANGED.

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Anony55

Today at 4:19 PM

dishstaller said:
Unless things have changed at Dish, which is entirely possible, they won't activate the 211, even as a replacement. I gave one to a customer a while back....which when I turned it off I made sure to tell the CSR I wanted it freed up so another customer could use it, I was assured it was.....and when they called to swap out there's they were told it couldn't be done. Now like I said, things MIGHT HAVE CHANGED.

It hasn't changed. When I cancelled my service the other day, they told me I didn't need to return the receiver (which I already knew because I purchased it).

But in addition to that, the young man told me not to sell it, but to take it to a recycling place. The reason he gave for the advice was because 211Ks can no longer be activated.

So as far as the VIP211k goes... once grandpa dies, he's dead.

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telstar_1

38 minutes ago

They tell you to trash it and not to sell simply because they're phasing them out, not particularly because someone might be "confused" into buying it and not be able to activate. They tell people that in every case where they're not acting to get a box back, either from a replacement or service cancel.

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Former member 209992

Last reply 38 minutes ago · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center

Site is slooooow

For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.

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Scott Greczkowski

Yesterday at 3:39 PM

Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat.

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Foxbat

Yesterday at 3:42 PM

Scott Greczkowski said:
Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat.

WTF… …What the Foxbat!

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 12:29 AM

Foxbat said:
WTF… …What the Foxbat!

wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you :biggrin

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Foxbat

Today at 12:38 AM

slow_poke_pete said:
wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you

I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 6:03 AM

Foxbat said:
I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:

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OMG to freaking funny :biggrin

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comfortably_numb

Today at 11:31 AM

Foxbat said:
I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:

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Not likely since that place closed down.

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Foxbat

38 minutes ago

comfortably_numb said:
Not likely since that place closed down.

You're no fun.

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Therm

Last reply Today at 4:01 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Am I the only one that hates what Dish did to their mobile app?

I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?

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dishstaller

Today at 12:56 PM

I really dislike change for the sake of change

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dishdude

Today at 2:51 PM

I like the new look, it's a lot cleaner. I'm using it on one of those Onn streaming devices when I travel.

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Therm

Today at 3:39 PM

dishdude said:
I like the new look, it's a lot cleaner. I'm using it on one of those Onn streaming devices when I travel.

Yes a lot cleaner, glossier, and less functional. Someone trying to justify why they are making a big salary. "See look shiny"

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navychop

Today at 3:53 PM

"Big salary." Charlie. "?Big?"

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Tampa8

Today at 4:01 PM

Seems in some ways better. Nicer layout, as others said maybe cleaner. Moving ahead in the guide is better.

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Foxbat

Supporting Founder Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Today at 3:48 PM · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum

New Apple TV 4K released, plus other Apple Home devices.

Apple has finally released their Apple TV 4K with built-in Siri and a microphone so it can respond to your queries even if you don't have the remote. It also increases in price, to $299. I had been planning on updating my current Apple TV 4K streamers, but that's $600 for the two of them, and that's a pass at this point.

At $299, it had better come with 256 GB of Storage, Gigabit (or better) Ethernet, the latest HDMI tech and standards, and one year of free Apple One. But it probably won't…

Apple TV 4K

Apple TV 4K. New Siri AI and hands-free control. Stunning picture and immersive HomePod surround sound. Works with your Apple and smart home devices.

www.apple.com

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Ronnie-

Tuesday at 9:19 PM

Meh. The 4Ks I have will do everything that these do that I need them to do.

Which that's most tech these days for anything released the last four to five years.

It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.

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navychop

Tuesday at 9:31 PM

Ronnie- said:
It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.

Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.

navychop

Yesterday at 12:55 PM

Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?

KAB

Yesterday at 7:46 PM

navychop said:
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?

Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 12:08 AM

navychop said:
Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.

they all do that anyways.. ever notice your cell phone slows down when you come up for an upgrade.. :what

. apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while

ncted

Today at 9:00 AM

KAB said:
Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!

Yeah, they boot up a bit slower than Roku, but the OS does a lot more, so it makes sense. How often are you booting them up that is a differentiator? Aside from OS updates, mine are on all the time. I will say the ATV4K is generally quicker than the Roku Ultras I have, when it comes to launching apps and responsiveness, not that the Roku is sluggish.

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navychop

Today at 2:31 PM

slow_poke_pete said:
apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while

What software? For iPhones? I tried to buy some image s/w IN THE APPLE STORE! They had none, and could not offer ANY s/w for iPhones

ncted

Today at 3:45 PM

slow_poke_pete said:
apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while

I assume you mean services, like iCloud and Apple Music, and not actual software sales. Services have been growing quickly for Apple, but hardware still brings home the bacon. As for where Apple's revenue comes from, the iPhone is still king with 49.58% of revenue as of June 2026. Services comes in second with 28%. iPad, Mac, and Wearables/Home makes up the rest. So, that is 72% coming from hardware. Their profit margin is around 25%, FWIW.

I am skeptical the AppleTV 4k makes them much money on the hardware though, which I suspect is what you were getting at.

ncted

Today at 3:46 PM

navychop said:
What software? For iPhones? I tried to buy some image s/w IN THE APPLE STORE! They had none, and could not offer ANY s/w for iPhones

You should have looked in the APP STORE instead.

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navychop

Today at 3:48 PM

Will do!

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cpdretired

Supporting Founder

Last reply Today at 3:29 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Offers

Several Dish offers showed up today in my account. Once you choose one the rest are removed. Offers were Showtime, Starz, AMC and others.

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bnewt

Sep 23, 2026

Just checked my account and it shows mgm+ at 8.00 per month, but that has red line drawn thru it and shows 0.00 per month. But it doesn't say how long this lasts,...... 1 month, 3 months, forever. I called customer service to get an answer, and they said nothing like that exists. Should I add the offer or not? Already paying them too much, but want to take advantage of something free.

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slow_poke_pete

Yesterday at 11:45 PM

bnewt said:
Just checked my account and it shows mgm+ at 8.00 per month, but that has red line drawn thru it and shows 0.00 per month. But it doesn't say how long this lasts,...... 1 month, 3 months, forever. I called customer service to get an answer, and they said nothing like that exists. Should I add the offer or not? Already paying them too much, but want to take advantage of something free.

look again mine says free for 1 month

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Almighty1

Today at 2:13 AM

slow_poke_pete said:
look again mine says free for 1 month

Not for me, mines has no mention of how long aka the offer period and the Terms and conditions the $0.00 is good for. All I see is one can lose $5.00 if you decide to remove it before day 31 after you add it to the account.

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 6:02 AM

Almighty1 said:
Not for me, mines has no mention of how long aka the offer period and the Terms and conditions the $0.00 is good for. All I see is one can lose $5.00 if you decide to remove it before day 31 after you add it to the account.

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wonder why it says that

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Almighty1

Today at 3:07 PM

slow_poke_pete said:
look again mine says free for 1 month

You have a different offer that is free for a shorter timeframe which is different than the one that I and bnewt saw without defining the promotion period as I sent the question to DISH Care via Facebook Messenger and this is the response I got back 20 minutes ago.

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Almighty1

Today at 3:29 PM

slow_poke_pete said:
wonder why it says that

Answer 2 minutes ago from DISH Care via Facebook Messenger:

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