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Balock
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Last reply · posted in FTA Receiver / Equipment Support
For whatever reason, my ECODA 22kHz switch (which fed two separate 4x1 diseqc switches) quit passing the 18V necessary to receive horizontal polarity signals. I verified this today by taking it in and out of the path directly to a single LNBF after also discovering a bad piece of coax in my switch matrix, which I replaced. I'm using two diseqc switches ATM because I have four active LNBFs (all are KU), each switch has at least one bad port and I've just been too cheap and lazy to replace them :) One switch is an EV-41A 4x1, while is a VisionSat SC-41B which was included with my VisionSat IV-200.

After removing the ECODA, I decided to try cascading the switches. The EV-41A is first in line from the receiver, with LNBFs on ports 1 and 4. The VisionSat SC-41B is connected to port 2 of the EV-41A, with LNBFs on ports 3 and 4. See the following diagram (as Doc Brown says, please excuse the crudity of this model :) ).

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This works great with my IV 200 receiver. After modifying the switch settings for the two LNBFs attached to the second switch, I can see and receive channels on all four satellites (the list in my sig). The IV 200 has a handy "Distant" Diseqc switch setting in the dish setup screens that works like I expected it to.

Unfortunately, I can't figure out how to configure this in my microHD to see and control the second switch (the SC-41B). I can see the two sats attached to the EV-41A (91W/97W), but not the other two (87W/101W). The user's manual doesn't explain it (at least not that I can find or recognize). Knowing there's others on the board with much more switch experience than I, can someone give me some pointers on what to set in the microHD to work with this very simple setup (assuming that it can) while I order some replacement parts?

Thanks!
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Balock
Thanks, Mike. I just disconnected it and brought it inside to do some bench testing. Works great with the IV-200, switching exactly like the EV-41A did and like I would expect it to...correct voltages on the correct ports. However, not so with the microHD :(. This time, it appeared to never switch ports...everything was sent to Port 1 no matter which sat I selected--the voltages were correct, just always only on Port 1. With both STBs, I made sure I had setup the DiSeqC 1.1 ports like I had the sats connected outside (to ports 1-4--that's all the IV-200 will support, even with DS 1.1): Port 1-103W, Port 2-87W, Port 3-91W, Port 4-97W. In the microHD, I am selecting "2 Cascades Port #" in the DiSeqC 1.1 dropdown. In the IV-200, I select just the port number in the DiSeqC 1.1 dropdown (only option I have there). The two screenshots below show the difference in options.

Again, I don't believe it's the switch, cables, etc...I'm about to try and reload the latest firmware in the microHD to see if it helps, but I'm not holding my breath. I have a suspicion that the power surge we had a few weeks ago during our deep freeze (overloaded distribution circuit on the west side of town gave out) may have fried something. I think it may have also gotten my Astron 50A 12V supply...it's not worked since roughly that time as well and I haven't been able to get it to reset.

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catamount
The micro HD is known to have problems with PLL lnb's, but usually over long runs. If you have a DRo lnb, switch it out with one of the PLL's and see how that switches. Titanium has a new ku Pll with a lower current draw.

Catamount


EDit: Just saw your post. Did you try using diseque 1. Aren't those switches backward compatible?
Balock
Catamount: The only DROs I have are a dual-output (H/V) Primestar that came on one of my 1.0M dishes (not in use) and a geoSatPro C2 which I've not used yet (I need to get a decent-sized dish for it). The Primestar worked fine the last time I used it on 87W, the only reason I'm not using it right now is that I had too much voltage drop to switch to horizontal polarity in one of my previous switch matrixes (may have been STB->22kHz->DiSEqC 4x1->2x4 MultiSwitch->LNBF). I've thought about putting it back in now that I have the 8x1 to see if I can run it correctly. So far all of my PLL LNBFs have been running great with my microHD, but I have an admittedly short cable run.

Just finished trying to use DiSEqC 1.0 settings with the 8x1...it did not work with either STB, so that switch is apparently not recognizing 1.0 commands. With the IV-200, as soon as I enabled 1.1 for a port, that port came to life on the switch. Still no response with the microHD when doing the same.

Back to work for the afternoon, then maybe give it a shot this evening. Supposed to have some rain over the next week starting tomorrow, so need to get stuff buttoned back up before it starts.
jorgek
THe VisionSat works ok but the MicroHD does not. Can we jump to the conclusion that the problem is with the MicroHD especially after the power line surge?
Balock
I was pretty much at that conclusion as of post #14. Just trying to dot the i's and curl the q's as I addressed the comments/suggestions that came up afterwards...the later tests continued to point back to the microHD. I've kinda been wanting to put the Primestar DRO back in service anyway in order to use the PLL that's on 87W elsewhere.
T
Last reply · posted in Free To Air (FTA) Discussion
Picked up a sweet directv dish, mount, twin lnbs and a short cable.
Has anyone converted one to FTA? A Frankenstein of sorts...
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B
would probably also work well for NHK on 101W and possibly for PBS on 99W. I used one for a while on 30W. Just keep in mind that because it's undersized for those satellites, it might work fine in clear weather but won't have much margin to account for signal degradation during rain/snow
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If you can find one, the Shaw / Star Choice 75e ellipticals are great for use on 97, 99, and 101W. They are really just rebranded ChannelMaster 75 cm reflectors and use linear LNBFs by default out of the box.

Everyone else's mileage may vary.
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I have read that some have converted this type dish but after giving it a good look, it's the lnb conversion that is the bottleneck. Does anyone have a picture of their attempt to configure the lnb? I watched a video on youtube from the save it for parts guy and he used duct tape! Guess it worked but I'm thinking something a bit more permanent!
Thanks to all for your interest and replies...
Titanium
Many of us have used a universal LNBF mount (or get creative with L brackets and plumbers tape - perforated metal strapping). Use a few inches of aluminum tube (or a piece of 1x2" lumber) to extend the support arm (replacing the plastic mount used by DirecTV and Dish) to place the LNBF throat opening at the correct distance from the reflector, the correct height and at the correct angle. Nothing magical... simply place the new linear LNBF in the center at the same distance, height and angle as the current combo.
www.amazon.com/Universal-Single-Bracket-Holder-FTA-US/dp/B074L85WK2
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k4otl
To add: 101W Ku seems to be (one of if not the) strongest for me, and if I only had Ku I definitely want 101W for the music mux, it's robust FEC and strong signal help a lot. I've thought about using a used Dish/DirectTV dish at my Dads to supplement his OTA (mainly for my benefit when I visit :) )
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Give A Little Bit - Supertramp
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Little Wing - Jimi Hendrix
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With A Little Luck - Wings
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LITTLE Willy-Sweet
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Little Deuce Coupe - The Beach Boys
meStevo
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Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Foxbat
I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
rvvaquero
I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
Be nice to see a Cowboy headline like that.
M
I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:

Can we expect to see a new coach if we say "pretty please?"
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Foxbat
Jeeez, Week 6, no lead is safe…
Peter Parker
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
No idea what improvements might be involved.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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jsmit86
I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
long_time_Dish
They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
Oh, you mean "soon"? :biggrin
Almighty1
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
I guess they will be busy when lots of people start asking for rollbacks to H708 now that you mention that downgrades of software does exist because it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner and the IR Remote problems in H710-H713.
navychop
it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner

:popcorn
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dishstaller
it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner
🤣

Oh....you were serious
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teachsac
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Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Hondo is back with a new squad 9/25 only on Starz.


View: https://m.youtube.com/shorts/b0gPzA8KHEQ
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Never watched the previous shows, so doubtful.
teachsac
Started watching yesterday. Not too bad.
Scott Greczkowski
Wife likes it.
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I like Zyra from La Brea (one with the prosthetic).
dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Stargate SG-1 cancelled, Atlantis renewed
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Monday - August 21, 2006 | by Darren Sumner
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The future of Stargate is in question today, as SCI FI Channel has cancelled the long-running Stargate SG-1, Multichannel News reported today and a GateWorld source has confirmed. The news regrettably follows the airing of the show's milestone two-hundredth episode on Friday.

Stargate Atlantis, meanwhile, has been renewed for a fourth season, with the network hoping to see that the spin-off series can stand alone, according to a source.
Source Gateworld
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I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
osu1991
long_time_Dish
I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
R
Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
long_time_Dish
Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
If I understand your question, O'Neill had the Ancient's knowledge in the "Lost City" two-part episode. That was when Anubis attacked Earth and there was a big battle over Antarctica.
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