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Last reply · posted in C-BAND Satellite Discussion
Some time back I subscribed to an RSS feed from this site before I knew anything about it, anyway today a link came in to this post which I found quite interesting:

http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?p=2021770#post2021770

It begins this way:

This circuit is used to convert the 14V/18V (Vert/Horiz) LNB voltage from a typical DVB satellite receiver to a servo pulse, in order to move the servo motor in a servo based C/Ku feedhorn. This along with a DMSI VBox7 to move the actuator eliminates the need to use an old analog receiver to move your old BUD dish, while maintaining the original performance of the Feedhorn electronics. Some people advocate replacing the Feedhorn with a more recent made in China Feedhorn using LNBFs. I do not think one can expect the same performance from any made in China feeds vs made in USA even if the Made in USA was designed 20-30 years ago. In a nutshell I think the recent made in china stuff is junk.
A much better solution would be to use a Chapparal ortho feed with separate H/V LNBs but that is quite expensive for residential C/Ku service (ie new C/Ku Ortho feedhorn plus 4 LNBs, 2 for each frequency band).

I had the VBOX7 in my system to control my actuator for about 6 months but in order to completely get rid of the old analog receiver from my system, I still needed a way to move the feedhorn's servo motor...

I was just mentioning a day or two ago that when I buy a new receiver (hopefully once the ice age ends here) I will probably need to buy a new feedhorn/LNB and I was definitely going to buy one of the Chinese-made ones, not because I think Chinese quality is always the greatest, but that's about the only thing you can get for a reasonable price these days. But as far as I know there is really nothing wrong with my existing feedhorn and LNB's, since they worked with my old Diamond receiver. So I would be in the same boat as the author of that post, except that I don't build hardware (unless maybe it's something VERY simple, and this doesn't look VERY simple to me).

It doesn't look like he has any desire to make commercial units or even extra PC boards, so I think I am out of luck, but I thought maybe those of you that are into building stuff might want to take a look at this, particularly if you are like me and don't have a money tree growing in the back yard. Or if you think you might have any interest, you might want to download the diagrams and plans, just to have them if you ever need them.

On the other hand, there is a part of me that thinks that maybe the Chinese feedhorn/LNBs aren't THAT bad, particularly when compared with the relatively higher degree ratings of the older technology LNB's. I understand the nostalgia of looking at an old Chaparral feedhorn and comparing the aesthetic of that to some cheap-appearing thing in white plastic, but can we realistically say that the new voltage-switched units with lower degree ratings are really any worse in actually receiving signals? Don't know but I guess I will find out.
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Lone Gunman
FYI I converted from a Corotor II to an LNBF about 3 years ago and never looked back, and WON'T go back either as long as the Chinese LNBFs are as cheap as they are now. When I switched over I did an A/B test on different TPs and there wasn't a nickel's worth of difference between the two. Currently I have the "no longer available" DMX741S LNBF on both my systems and when/if those go out I'll probably be looking at the BSC621S to replace it as I do believe that the DMX I have is actually a BSC clone.

Titanium here on SatGuys has built a dish controller with a built in servo controller that will connect to the standard FTA receiver to control your BUD and Corotor feed horn. Not sure what the cost is but I'm willing to wager it's way more expensive than an LNBF and you already have the Vbox 7 to move your dish.
. Raine
I couldn't open the schematic diagram downloaded from that link. Downloaded twice, unzipped it and it was pdf's but popped up with an unable to open message. On the original site is the schematic and more though.... http://www.ringolake.com/pic_proj/satellite/sat_projects.html

You're probably selling yourself short, you could probably build it, Anik. It may look intimidating if you can't read schematics well, but it's really a simple circuit. A little studying of reading schematics, what components are what and learning basic soldering skills and I'd bet you'd be good to go.
A
I couldn't open the schematic diagram downloaded from that link. Downloaded twice, unzipped it and it was pdf's but popped up with an unable to open message. On the original site is the schematic and more though.... http://www.ringolake.com/pic_proj/satellite/sat_projects.html

You're probably selling yourself short, you could probably build it, Anik. It may look intimidating if you can't read schematics well, but it's really a simple circuit. A little studying of reading schematics, what components are what and learning basic soldering skills and I'd bet you'd be good to go.

The zip file contains five files - a text file that reads as follows:

Order list for polarotor683.sch
Exported from EAGLE with DesignLink

Quantity Value Package Order code Manufacturer Manuf. Code Availability Price (from) Description
2 .1uF C102-064X133 13K6338 KEMET C322C104M5R5TA 261 0.05 KEMET - C322C104M5R5TA - CAPACITOR CERAMIC 0.1UF, 50V, X7R, 20%, RAD
1 10uF E3,5-10 23K4869 UNITED CHEMI-CON ESMG160ELL100ME11D 15986 0.087 UNITED CHEMI-CON - ESMG160ELL100ME11D - CAPACITOR ALUM ELEC 10UF, 16V, 20%, RADIAL
1 Case 62221 51R4146 1591XXBSBK 575 3.28 HAMMOND - 1591XXBSBK - enclosure - plastic
2 R141426 R141426 99H6283 AMPHENOL 222144 78 0.51 AMPHENOL CONNEX - 222144 - RF/COAXIAL F BHD JACK, STR 75 OHM, SOLDER
1 7805T TO220H 97K2637 KA78M05TU 37 0.247 FAIRCHILD SEMICONDUCTOR - KA78M05TU - IC, LDO REG, 500mA, 5V, TO-220-3
1 PIC12F683P DIL8 89H0442 MICROCHIP PIC12F683-I/P 1037 1.12 MICROCHIP - PIC12F683-I/P - IC, 8BIT MCU, PIC12, 20MHZ, DIP-8
1 2.2uH SD8 46P8723 11R222C 185 0.247 MURATA POWER SOLUTIONS - 11R222C - STANDARD INDUCTOR, 2.2UH, 1.9A, 20%
1 95F9397 LED3MM 33C1369 Chicago 95F9397 4767 0.086 VISHAY SEMICONDUCTOR - 95F9397- LED,Red/Grn
1 47K 0309/12 38K0377 FARNELL MCF 0.25W 47K 10112 0.01 MULTICOMP - MCF 0.25W 47K - RESISTOR, CARBON FILM, 47KOHM, 250mW, 5%
2 10K 0309/12 38K0328 FARNELL MCF 0.25W 10K 109916 0.01 MULTICOMP - MCF 0.25W 10K - RESISTOR, CARBON FILM, 10KOHM, 250mW, 5%
1 220 0309/12 38K0351 FARNELL MCF 0.25W 220R 16697 0.01 MULTICOMP - MCF 0.25W 220R - RESISTOR, CARBON FILM, 220 OHM, 250mW, 5%
1 10K S64W 16F7158 VISHAY/SPRAGUE T93YA 10K 10% 3025 0.739 VISHAY SFERNICE - T93YA 10K 10% - TRIMMER, POTENTIOMETER, 10KOHM 23TURN THRU HOLE
2 330 0309/12 38K0363 FARNELL MCF 0.25W 330R 17442 0.01 MULTICOMP - MCF 0.25W 330R - RESISTOR, CARBON FILM, 330 OHM, 250mW, 5%
1 7395-03 48F5269 MFSS100-3-D 2273 0.223 ITW PANCON - MFSS100-3-D - BOARD-BOARD CONNECTOR HEADER, 3WAY, 1ROW
1 8PIN DIP 14P 82K7786 SPC CONNECTORS SPC15494 7078 0.121 MULTICOMP (FORMERLY FROM SPC) - SPC15494 - DIP SOCKET, 8POS, THROUGH HOLE



70K9669 10uF 16V
46P6238 .1uF 50V
95F9397 red/green led

And four PDF files:

View attachment polarotor683_brd_mirror.pdf View attachment polarotor683_brd.pdf View attachment polarotor683_brd_layout.pdf View attachment polarotor683_sch.pdf

Are you saying you could not view the PDF files? I didn't have any problem viewing them on my system. Try the links above and see if they will display for you. If not, you could probably use an online service such as Zamzar to convert the PDF files to something more accessible. Or I could probably do screen captures and post them, but Zamzar might be a bit more accurate.

When I was much much younger I managed to put together a couple of Heathkit / Knight Kit type projects (one was an "Ocean Hopper" shortwave radio - does that date me or what?) but that was before the days of people making their own printed circuit boards. That is the part that pretty much totally mystifies me. Also, those are not exactly the most readable schematics I have ever seen, particularly the way they lay out the IC with all the connections on one side. But if I had the PC board and parts I probably could build it, assuming I could still hold the soldering iron steady enough to not make cold solder joints. Whether it would actually work after I got through is another matter entirely! :)
. Raine
The zip file contains five files - a text file that reads as follows:



And four PDF files:

View attachment 95281 View attachment 95282 View attachment 95283 View attachment 95284

Are you saying you could not view the PDF files? I didn't have any problem viewing them on my system. Try the links above and see if they will display for you. If not, you could probably use an online service such as Zamzar to convert the PDF files to something more accessible. Or I could probably do screen captures and post them, but Zamzar might be a bit more accurate.

When I was much much younger I managed to put together a couple of Heathkit / Knight Kit type projects (one was an "Ocean Hopper" shortwave radio - does that date me or what?) but that was before the days of people making their own printed circuit boards. That is the part that pretty much totally mystifies me. Also, those are not exactly the most readable schematics I have ever seen, particularly the way they lay out the IC with all the connections on one side. But if I had the PC board and parts I probably could build it, assuming I could still hold the soldering iron steady enough to not make cold solder joints. Whether it would actually work after I got through is another matter entirely! :)

Yeah, I couldn't view the PDF's, but the link you posted a few posts back worked for me, thanks! Looked at the Ocean Hopper there, vacuum tubes does kinda date things! :D

That is kinda weird the way they show the I.C. I'd assume that the numbers down the side are the chip's pin numbers. If not, then I have no idea. I wouldn't bother with making a circuit board myself, think I'd just wire it all up on perf-board and mount it in a case. I never had much patience for etching and drilling boards myself. I can kinda relate to what you're saying about holding the iron steady. I can still hold my hands steady, but my darn eyes are so bad now that I can hardly see what I'm doing and getting things to work is so, so much harder than it used to be! :)
R
For those that have a rotational feed as opposed to a fixed feed, does fine tuning the skew dramatically improve reception of certain transponders? How much does it help?

I was thinking about getting a corotor lnbf, but there is no controller support.
Lone Gunman
For those that have a rotational feed as opposed to a fixed feed, does fine tuning the skew dramatically improve reception of certain transponders? How much does it help?

I was thinking about getting a corotor lnbf, but there is no controller support.

Only one I can think of that would be "dramatically" improved would be some TPs on 103W Ku band as many there are 20* off skew from most others. Other than that I don't see much difference and I've used both a Corotor II and an LNBF.

There is a dish mover put out by Titanium called the ASC-1 that will control the dish and also the servo motor for skew but if you have to buy that, a Corotor II feed horn and 2 LNBs it's going to be pretty expensive.
FaT Air
What mount is your dish on??
A polar mount takes care of skew by itself. A Ku motor is also a polar mount.
Only need would be for the ~20 'offset' of the skew of Ku on 103W, but there's easier, and cheaper, ways of dealing with that.
R
FYI I converted from a Corotor II to an LNBF about 3 years ago and never looked back, and WON'T go back either as long as the Chinese LNBFs are as cheap as they are now. When I switched over I did an A/B test on different TPs and there wasn't a nickel's worth of difference between the two. Currently I have the "no longer available" DMX741S LNBF on both my systems and when/if those go out I'll probably be looking at the BSC621S to replace it as I do believe that the DMX I have is actually a BSC clone.

Titanium here on SatGuys has built a dish controller with a built in servo controller that will connect to the standard FTA receiver to control your BUD and Corotor feed horn. Not sure what the cost is but I'm willing to wager it's way more expensive than an LNBF and you already have the Vbox 7 to move your dish.

Actually, the circuit only requires a few resistors; a 555 timer; a 5vdc regulator and/or wall 5vdc p.s.; and an available printer port on 98 to xp pc (ibm clone). The computer doesn't even need any operating system; just debug to assemble your code in DOS; which you then create a .com to run the keyboard commands as your operation of the 555 timer which you move the servo. These same parts or controllers (forms of robotics are found in rc cars and flying machines.
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

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Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

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Another example:

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Last reply · posted in Over the Air Television By RabbitEars.Info
New low power station has been granted by the FCC and the new call leter is K33OB-D on RF ch. 33.

Will run at 15 KW ERP, this one runs from the Westside same location as KWPL-LD a HC2 owned station.

It's going to be aimed at eastern part of Albuquerque, so it's tightly focused beam pattern.

This new station is owned by Digital Network and what kind of programmings is unkown at this time.😎
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M
This new station is owned by Digital Network and what kind of programmings is unkown at this time
probably the same programming they have been putting on their other owned stations.
The 'get after it media' stations
Like Heartland, Retro, rev'n, Action etc
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comfortably_numb
probably the same programming they have been putting on their other owned stations.
The 'get after it media' stations
Like Heartland, Retro, rev'n, Action etc

We already have those diginets here.
N5XZS
Yeah, there are some diginets like Heartland, Retro, The Family Channel diginetworks that we already have here in this market and we don't need duplicates, but bring the new diginets on like the Rev'n, Karate Acton movies, different kind of music videos on the new station. :hatsoff2
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Yeah, there are some diginets like Heartland, Retro, The Family Channel diginetworks that we already have here in this market and we don't need duplicates, but bring the new diginets like Revn, Karate Acton movies, different kind of music videos on the new station. :hatsoff2

I watch MovieSphere Gold channel a lot. Many recent movies on that digitnet :)
N5XZS
Yes that's a good channel MovieSphere, only thing is the missing CC on it. :rolleyes: :hatsoff2
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According to the FCC listing, the tower is near I-40 and Juan Tabo:

Scott Greczkowski
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Last reply · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center
Due to security concerns and the fact that the Tapatalk Plugin for Xenforo is no longer being updated we have removed Tapatalk support from SatelliteGuys.

For those who were using it we recommend using our PWA App instead which is faster and does not have all the spam Tapatalk had. Below is a graphic showing how to add SatelliteGuys to your devices home screen. (While iOS is shown the process is mostly the same for Android.)

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Thank you, Scott, for adding years to my Life and dropping my BP a few millimeters! Money well spent…
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Thank you, Scott, for adding years to my Life and dropping my BP a few millimeters! Money well spent…
What is PWA app? PWA utilities seem to be a Spanish app. I hope you are seeing this since nothing seems to be working. I will miss SatelliteGuys. Tapatalk worked well. The Siri browser doesn't seem to work well.
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Thank you, Scott, for adding years to my Life and dropping my BP a few millimeters! Money well spent…
Hooray!
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What is PWA app? PWA utilities seem to be a Spanish app. I hope you are seeing this since nothing seems to be working. I will miss SatelliteGuys. Tapatalk worked well. The Siri browser doesn't seem to work well.
Do you mean the safari browser?
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Last reply · posted in Movie Talk
Since the Reds have there thread we should too!

Last watched Nine inch Nails
Next 3:10 to Yuma
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osu1991
Rooster Cogburn.

Keep forgetting the free movies on youtube are ad free with my premium subscription.
dfergie
Rooster Cogburn.

Keep forgetting the free movies on youtube are ad free with my premium subscription.
There are some really good movies on youtube.
Saving Private Ryan 4k, Dolby Atmos...
harshness
Saving Private Ryan 4k, Dolby Atmos...
These are severely limited. Getting better than stereo audio is improving, but still has a long way to go.
dfergie
These are severely limited. Getting better than stereo audio is improving, but still has a long way to go.
I went with my 4k disc after checking out that version.
osu1991

View: https://youtu.be/I68627xyDPA?is=gUZB0Yv_08pE0DR3


Tonight revisiting one of my favorites. Ranks up there with Star Wars, Raiders of the Lost Ark and Hunt For Red October.
dfergie
Watching Monterey Pop, been awhile, had the DVD, but probably lost in the fire 10.5 years ago. HBOmax
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I have had good experiences with Brave but lately I am frustrated with it.

Now when I launch the app it shows a box at the bottom asking if I want to go back to the last opened page. It is in conveniently located and I would prefer to eliminate it.

Does anyone know how to do this?

Please let's not sidetrack the discussion into an exploration of why I don't care for it or a lecture about all the wonderful aspects of the feature. I just do not care for it.
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b4pjoe
I don't have an Android phone so I don't know if this will apply to the Brave settings on your android device but it works on the desktop for me.

Change this setting to either startup to a different website or a new tab page. I have mine set to open to google.com instead of where I left off and it doesn't ask me at the next startup if I want to open the last opened page unless it crashed.

Screenshot 2026-06-10 at 6.46.20 PM.webp
Peter Parker
I don't have an Android phone so I don't know if this will apply to the Brave settings on your android device but it works on the desktop for me.

Change this setting to either startup to a different website or a new tab page. I have mine set to open to google.com instead of where I left off and it doesn't ask me at the next startup if I want to open the last opened page unless it crashed.

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Thank you for trying to help. However thrse choices do not appear in Android. There is a setting for "New Tab Pages" that is similar but does not include your choice. I have tried all of the existing entries with no success
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Hello everyone.

I am new here and I done a search on MLB Extra Innings and DISH and it led me to this forum and so I signed up and hopefully someone can help me out with some issues.

First off, I am a DISH Outdoors customer and I signed up for service back in late October of 2025. I have a Wally HD Receiver and I am using the DISH Playmaker OS 2.1 as my Antenna that operates on 110 and 119 Western Arc and Alternative 61.5, 110, and 119 satellites. I signed up for MLB Extra Innings back in March before the season began. I was excited to be able to watch MLB Extra Innings because I love baseball and I use to have MLB Extra Innings on Satellite DIRECTV back in 2001-2004 and on Satellite DISH back in 2016 and 2017.

I was a bit disappointed when I found out that it is actually MLB.TV Simulcasted to DISH Satellite (More on that later) Anyways I have been watching faithfully almost every night however about a week ago there was a problem. When I went to go to the game to watch a game the game wouldn't come in an I would send a refresh signal to my receiver and then I could watch the programming and when I went to switch games at that games appointed time slot my Wally HD Receiver who lockup where I couldn't change any channels or view the guide and it would reboot. The next night when I turned to a game at game start it still had the background it shows before the game started and again send a refresh signal and went though this same thing over and over. I added a movie channel to my lineup and had issues with showing up my Dish Wally HD Receiver.

With an investigation after several calls with DISH Support it was determined that by going to the diagnostics screen that I had a issue with my Tuner because any changes that I made to my programming these changes would not take affect on the Wally HD Receiver. In other words that Wally HD Receiver was toast!

I too had reported MLB Extra Innings issue to DISH and they created a ticket for it and said that someone would investigate the issue. I too took notice that under MyDISH account under MLB Extra Innings always before it would show that I was subscribed and on auto-renew. Now it shows nothing and even after logging out and deleting my User Name and Password so that I can see it in guest mode it too doesn't even list a price and option for purchase as does the now WNBA League Pass.

After my DISH Receiver was ruined I had to buy a new Wally HD Receiver. I took advantage an bought 2 HD Wally's and added them both to my account. I called back to remove the old box off of the account and was told it was linked to MLB Extra Innings and the advanced technical support team said there was a glitch with MLB Extra Innings and hope to have a resolution in a couple of days and I could call back in to then to remove the box. But both the 2 new Wally HD Receivers are activated on my account. I asked them what the problem was with MLB Extra Innings and how long it would be and I was told there was a glitch as I asked to specify what they meant and got no answer. I again went and checked the MyDISH account page under the MLB Extra Innings page and it still doesn't list me as subscribed and after logging out and deleting my User Name and Password so I could it see it as a guest mode and it still doesn't list the price and option for purchase as it does for the WNBA League Pass.

I am afraid to boot up these boxes and go through the activation screen process because of the issues with the MLB Extra Innings in fear it will do the same or mess up my boxes from being able to receive MLB Extra Inning because or any other programing because I was told that MLB Extra Innings wouldn't come in on those new box because it was activated with the Wally that is ruined and it needs removed first.

Now I have no DISH service going on a week and miss my MLB Extra Innings when the races are just heating up and now with two boxes activated I can't boot up because I am afraid it will mess them up and I will be out the $180.00 or so dollars I made in purchase on the receivers.

Is anyone else experiencing issues with their MLB Extra Innings and does anyone really know what this so called glitch actually is? I can't seem to get a clear answer from anybody and don't even know if it will even be fixed or anyone really understands it.

Now to my previous statement on how I was disappointed that MLB Extra Innings is actually MLB.TV in simulcast. When I had MLB Extra Innings before with DIRECTV in 2001-2004 and with DISH form 2016 and 2017. They would always show the commercials for every teams broadcast from their local market and all games would be authentic just as if you were watching in their home market. After I quit DISH I went to streaming for awhile and I done MLB.TV and I hated their features because of the no commercials, the delayed times of getting back after the commercial break, and not being able to listen to what studios had to say when they would cut into the studios, and always looking at the screen during commercial breaks with a screen that says commercial break in progress and a silhouette background of MLB Players doing baseball things and the their crazy commercial breaks sound. I was excited to go back to DISH thinking I escaped the horrors of MLB.TV. Well its actually the same thing. I compared them side by side and actually MLB.TV is ahead by just a few seconds. So actually MLB Extra Innings on Satellite is delayed from time period wise from actually watching MLB.TV which shows it is simulcasted. My question is when did this start? And is this legal? This isn't what I know MLB Extra Innings to be. I too had signed up for NHL Center Ice this past winter and thank goodness its authentic! They still have the commercials and its like watching it as you were in their home network and its the way it oughta be even if you only do get one feed of NHL Center Ice per team on DISH and don't know which feed it is every night.

Looking forward to your responses. So far happy with DISH but unhappy with this last week and the ruining of a Wally HD Receiver.

I hope I can be of some contribution here as well.

Sincerely,

RJ T.
From Illinois
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zippyfrog
I know they are doing some major satellite work - the second satellite at 110 which is now in use, and they are moving channels between 119 and 110. Maybe since there are no other sports going on, have they temporarily cut back on the out of market sports packages? I am not sure. It looks like those channels are all coming from 119 TP 13, 110 TP 12, and 110 TP 09.

Also, Dish's Scheduled Satellite Maintenance page doesn't have anything going on:

R
I know they are doing some major satellite work - the second satellite at 110 which is now in use, and they are moving channels between 119 and 110. Maybe since there are no other sports going on, have they temporarily cut back on the out of market sports packages? I am not sure. It looks like those channels are all coming from 119 TP 13, 110 TP 12, and 110 TP 09.

Also, Dish's Scheduled Satellite Maintenance page doesn't have anything going on:

Trying to get use to this forum and where everything is located at. I saw you responded from my post on the changes and took me a while to get back to see this post. But yes, it is exactly what I was thinking. I too noticed the change of MLB Extra Innings from 110 to 119. Because of 30 teams they have to algin everything. Only other sport going on PPV wise is WNBA League Pass and I do not have a subscription to that but maybe some else who has it can confirm what they done and what satellite and transponders they are on.

This is a big shift for DISH. I just hope if Charlie Ergen does ever sell out to anyone that I can continue to use my DISH Playmaker and I can keep my Wally's. If its anything like what happened to DIRECTV a few years back which turned out to be a total disaster when AT&T acquired DIRECTV nothing there changed with boxes or anything and you continued to use the same service but I was very surprised to see AT&T sell it to TPG especially after they had just bought it now long ago.

RJ T.
From Illinois
R
Hello everyone.

I am new here and I done a search on MLB Extra Innings and DISH and it led me to this forum and so I signed up and hopefully someone can help me out with some issues.

First off, I am a DISH Outdoors customer and I signed up for service back in late October of 2025. I have a Wally HD Receiver and I am using the DISH Playmaker OS 2.1 as my Antenna that operates on 110 and 119 Western Arc and Alternative 61.5, 110, and 119 satellites. I signed up for MLB Extra Innings back in March before the season began. I was excited to be able to watch MLB Extra Innings because I love baseball and I use to have MLB Extra Innings on Satellite DIRECTV back in 2001-2004 and on Satellite DISH back in 2016 and 2017.

I was a bit disappointed when I found out that it is actually MLB.TV Simulcasted to DISH Satellite (More on that later) Anyways I have been watching faithfully almost every night however about a week ago there was a problem. When I went to go to the game to watch a game the game wouldn't come in an I would send a refresh signal to my receiver and then I could watch the programming and when I went to switch games at that games appointed time slot my Wally HD Receiver who lockup where I couldn't change any channels or view the guide and it would reboot. The next night when I turned to a game at game start it still had the background it shows before the game started and again send a refresh signal and went though this same thing over and over. I added a movie channel to my lineup and had issues with showing up my Dish Wally HD Receiver.

With an investigation after several calls with DISH Support it was determined that by going to the diagnostics screen that I had a issue with my Tuner because any changes that I made to my programming these changes would not take affect on the Wally HD Receiver. In other words that Wally HD Receiver was toast!

I too had reported MLB Extra Innings issue to DISH and they created a ticket for it and said that someone would investigate the issue. I too took notice that under MyDISH account under MLB Extra Innings always before it would show that I was subscribed and on auto-renew. Now it shows nothing and even after logging out and deleting my User Name and Password so that I can see it in guest mode it too doesn't even list a price and option for purchase as does the now WNBA League Pass.

After my DISH Receiver was ruined I had to buy a new Wally HD Receiver. I took advantage an bought 2 HD Wally's and added them both to my account. I called back to remove the old box off of the account and was told it was linked to MLB Extra Innings and the advanced technical support team said there was a glitch with MLB Extra Innings and hope to have a resolution in a couple of days and I could call back in to then to remove the box. But both the 2 new Wally HD Receivers are activated on my account. I asked them what the problem was with MLB Extra Innings and how long it would be and I was told there was a glitch as I asked to specify what they meant and got no answer. I again went and checked the MyDISH account page under the MLB Extra Innings page and it still doesn't list me as subscribed and after logging out and deleting my User Name and Password so I could it see it as a guest mode and it still doesn't list the price and option for purchase as it does for the WNBA League Pass.

I am afraid to boot up these boxes and go through the activation screen process because of the issues with the MLB Extra Innings in fear it will do the same or mess up my boxes from being able to receive MLB Extra Inning because or any other programing because I was told that MLB Extra Innings wouldn't come in on those new box because it was activated with the Wally that is ruined and it needs removed first.

Now I have no DISH service going on a week and miss my MLB Extra Innings when the races are just heating up and now with two boxes activated I can't boot up because I am afraid it will mess them up and I will be out the $180.00 or so dollars I made in purchase on the receivers.

Is anyone else experiencing issues with their MLB Extra Innings and does anyone really know what this so called glitch actually is? I can't seem to get a clear answer from anybody and don't even know if it will even be fixed or anyone really understands it.

Now to my previous statement on how I was disappointed that MLB Extra Innings is actually MLB.TV in simulcast. When I had MLB Extra Innings before with DIRECTV in 2001-2004 and with DISH form 2016 and 2017. They would always show the commercials for every teams broadcast from their local market and all games would be authentic just as if you were watching in their home market. After I quit DISH I went to streaming for awhile and I done MLB.TV and I hated their features because of the no commercials, the delayed times of getting back after the commercial break, and not being able to listen to what studios had to say when they would cut into the studios, and always looking at the screen during commercial breaks with a screen that says commercial break in progress and a silhouette background of MLB Players doing baseball things and the their crazy commercial breaks sound. I was excited to go back to DISH thinking I escaped the horrors of MLB.TV. Well its actually the same thing. I compared them side by side and actually MLB.TV is ahead by just a few seconds. So actually MLB Extra Innings on Satellite is delayed from time period wise from actually watching MLB.TV which shows it is simulcasted. My question is when did this start? And is this legal? This isn't what I know MLB Extra Innings to be. I too had signed up for NHL Center Ice this past winter and thank goodness its authentic! They still have the commercials and its like watching it as you were in their home network and its the way it oughta be even if you only do get one feed of NHL Center Ice per team on DISH and don't know which feed it is every night.

Looking forward to your responses. So far happy with DISH but unhappy with this last week and the ruining of a Wally HD Receiver.

I hope I can be of some contribution here as well.

Sincerely,

RJ T.
From Illinois
Update on MLB Extra Innings as of 5:50 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026...

I am getting tired of not being able to watch any baseball games and having paid for MLB Extra Innings and not knowing what the reason is I called dish back at 1-800-333-3474. I guess after all of my calls my call was routed to the Advanced Technical Support Team. I had something happen that I never knew they could do and they gained access into my Wally Receiver. I was told settings look good and right now on the only channel that shows is the MLB1 Baltimore Orioles Channel. They are playing the at home against the Seattle Mariners right now. She was able to access to that channel which prompted a purchase a Rent option. That signaled a red flag to her right away. She escalated a ticket with photographs and info from my screen to the top tier advanced programing technical department and told me they received the ticket and are reviewing it now. They got back to her and said they would have information within 30 minutes. I either get the channels within 30 minutes or I am to call back and they will advance from there. Seems like maybe my persistence is paying off. I will keep you informed. Maybe we can all have a resolution to this shortly.

RJ T.
From Illinois
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Update on MLB Extra Innings as of 5:50 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026...

I am getting tired of not being able to watch any baseball games and having paid for MLB Extra Innings and not knowing what the reason is I called dish back at 1-800-333-3474. I guess after all of my calls my call was routed to the Advanced Technical Support Team. I had something happen that I never knew they could do and they gained access into my Wally Receiver. I was told settings look good and right now on the only channel that shows is the MLB1 Baltimore Orioles Channel. They are playing the at home against the Seattle Mariners right now. She was able to access to that channel which prompted a purchase a Rent option. That signaled a red flag to her right away. She escalated a ticket with photographs and info from my screen to the top tier advanced programing technical department and told me they received the ticket and are reviewing it now. They got back to her and said they would have information within 30 minutes. I either get the channels within 30 minutes or I am to call back and they will advance from there. Seems like maybe my persistence is paying off. I will keep you informed. Maybe we can all have a resolution to this shortly.
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Update on MLB Extra Innings as of 5:50 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026...

I am getting tired of not being able to watch any baseball games and having paid for MLB Extra Innings and not knowing what the reason is I called dish back at 1-800-333-3474. I guess after all of my calls my call was routed to the Advanced Technical Support Team. I had something happen that I never knew they could do and they gained access into my Wally Receiver. I was told settings look good and right now on the only channel that shows is the MLB1 Baltimore Orioles Channel. They are playing the at home against the Seattle Mariners right now. She was able to access to that channel which prompted a purchase a Rent option. That signaled a red flag to her right away. She escalated a ticket with photographs and info from my screen to the top tier advanced programing technical department and told me they received the ticket and are reviewing it now. They got back to her and said they would have information within 30 minutes. I either get the channels within 30 minutes or I am to call back and they will advance from there. Seems like maybe my persistence is paying off. I will keep you informed. Maybe we can all have a resolution to this shortly.

RJ T.
From Illinois
Update as of 6:40 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026...

Noting went through on my screen. However take a look at this


They have the page back up but it shows I need to purchase. On phone on hold waiting to connect to get this thing activated.

Will post shortly with update.

RJ T.
From Illinois
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Update as of 6:40 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026...

Noting went through on my screen. However take a look at this


They have the page back up but it shows I need to purchase. On phone on hold waiting to connect to get this thing activated.

Will post shortly with update.

RJ T.
From Ill

Update as of 6:40 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026...

Noting went through on my screen. However take a look at this


They have the page back up but it shows I need to purchase. On phone on hold waiting to connect to get this thing activated.

Will post shortly with update.

RJ T.
From Illinois
Final Update... As of 8:08 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026.

I now have MLB Extra Innings back! Look at the photo! (I did not include full image of the game due to copyright)

Let me just say it was rough! Very rough! And lets just say Charlie Ergen should be ashamed of his customer service team and how they handled this whole issue.

After multiple calls after my last post only to get the run around with answers like there are no refunds on MLB Extra Innings once the season starts, to they are working on it, to accessing my screen and sending multi hits to the box.

All I asked was one simple question remove the MLB Extra Innings which they confirmed I had and reauthorize free of charge. I was given a 1,000 reasons why this couldn't be done.

Well..........

I paid for it myself.... $120.00 current rate and it works!

I called back in to let them know what I done and what I thought of the customer service and told them I needed refunded. I was told they didn't do refunds....

Well again I called back and got someone who refunded the original payment of $150.00 back to my account. A $30 discount for all the hard trouble I went though.

It is now up to you all out there that have MLB Extra Innings to try to get them to do this but I am afraid you are going to have to take your own action and purchase again and beg for a refund or be out the $150.00 originally paid.

Persistence pays off. I don't give up very easily.

You can all go here below to make the purchase if you have any trouble.


I hope it all works well for you! And best of luck to everyone who has it!

I will still be around on this forum. You all sound like a fine group of people! I hope I can contribute more.

Take care!

RJ T.
From Illinois
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I was bewildered with all the new DISH TV "Bonus View" channels, so I put together a web page table with all the info I could find. It's at:

https://anythingpeaceful.org/dishtv/DISH_TV_Bonus_View_Channels.html

Here's a partial screenshot of the table, as sorted by Channel Name. (You can click on a column header to sort.)

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If you have any corrections or suggestions, please post here.
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Easy come, easy go- can't count on anything.
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2 Bonus View channels removed today:

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My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels

Thanks to Pat for the tip.
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One added, one removed. But I think it's really only a name change, with similar (or identical?) programming.

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My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels

Thanks to Pat for the alert.
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One added, one removed. But I think it's really only a name change, with similar (or identical?) programming.

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My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels

Thanks to Pat for the alert.
A dandilion by any other name.
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