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Last reply Mar 25, 2014 · posted in DISH Uplink Reports

3/5/2014 3:32pm - Uplink Activity Report - 107 changes

SatelliteGuys.US DishNetwork Uplink Activity Report - 3/5/2014 3:32pm - 107 changes

Uplink Comparison Range: 03/05/2014 03:16P - 03/05/2014 03:31P

Channel Additions:
5265(49) - WTOKD [MPEG4 HD] added to Ciel-2 129W TP 06 Spotbeam 43 (Mkt:Meridian, MS-Meridian, MS-CW,) (NA)
8383(34) - KUVM [MPEG2 SD] added to EchoStar14 119W TP 04 Spotbeam B11 (Mkt:Houston, TX-Missouri City, TX-AZTECA,) (NA)
8383(34) - KUVM [MPEG4 SD] added to Echostar16 61.5W TP 25 Spotbeam 16 (Mkt:Houston, TX-Missouri City, TX-AZTECA,) (NA)
4084 - AAC [MPEG4 SD] added to Echostar16 61.5W TP 02 Conus beam (NA)
4085 - AACHD [MPEG4 HD] added to Echostar16 61.5W TP 02 Conus beam (NA)

Channel Removals:
905 - LOCAL (A) (H) [MPEG2 SD] removed from EchoStar11 110W TP 21 ConUS beam
907 - WNBC (A) (H) [MPEG2 SD] removed from EchoStar11 110W TP 21 ConUS beam (New York, NY)
908 - KNTV (A) (H) [MPEG2 SD] removed from EchoStar11 110W TP 21 ConUS beam (San Jose, CA)
909 - WCBS (A) (H) [MPEG2 SD] removed from EchoStar11 110W TP 21 ConUS beam (Plainview, NY)
910 - KPIX (A) (H) [MPEG2 SD] removed from EchoStar11 110W TP 21 ConUS beam (San Francisco, CA)
911 - WABC (A) (H) [MPEG2 SD] removed from EchoStar11 110W TP 21 ConUS beam (New York, NY)
912 - KGO (A) (H) [MPEG2 SD] removed from EchoStar11 110W TP 21 ConUS beam (San Francisco, CA)
913 - WNYW (A) (H) [MPEG2 SD] removed from EchoStar11 110W TP 21 ConUS beam (New York, NY)
914 - KTVU (A) (H) [MPEG2 SD] removed from EchoStar11 110W TP 21 ConUS beam (Oakland, CA)
917 - LOCAL (A) (H) [MPEG2 SD] removed from EchoStar11 110W TP 21 ConUS beam
9853 - DISH (A) (FP) [MPEG2 SD] removed from EchoStar14 119W TP 11 ConUS beam (Dish Network Information Channel)
9854 - DISH (A) (FP) [MPEG4 HD] removed from Ciel-2 129W TP 24 ConUS beam (Dish Network Information Channel)
9854 - DISH (A) (FP) [MPEG4 HD] removed from Echostar16 61.5W TP 10 Conus beam (Dish Network Information Channel)

Channel Package Flag Changes:
736 - JUS [MPEG2 SD] - Anik F3 118.7W TP 29 ConUS beam changed to free preview (A) (JUS Punjabi )
872 - TR3S [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar11 110W TP 16 ConUS beam changed to shown in non-sub's guides (MTV Tr3s) (A)
872 - TR3S [MPEG4 SD] - Quetzsat1 77W TP 28 ConUS beam changed to shown in non-sub's guides (MTV Tr3s) (A)
885 - NHLN [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar11 110W TP 15 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Network)
885 - NHLN [MPEG4 SD] - Echostar16 61.5W TP 06 Conus beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Network)
887 - NHL [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar11 110W TP 24 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Center Ice)
887 - NHL [MPEG4 SD] - Nimiq5 72.7W TP 29 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Center Ice)
888 - NHL [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar14 119W TP 18 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Center Ice)
888 - NHL [MPEG4 SD] - Nimiq5 72.7W TP 29 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Center Ice)
889 - NHL [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar11 110W TP 24 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Center Ice)
889 - NHL [MPEG4 SD] - Nimiq5 72.7W TP 29 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Center Ice)
890 - NHL [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar11 110W TP 16 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Center Ice)
890 - NHL [MPEG4 SD] - Nimiq5 72.7W TP 25 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Center Ice)
891 - NHL [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar14 119W TP 17 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Center Ice)
891 - NHL [MPEG4 SD] - Nimiq5 72.7W TP 09 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Center Ice)
892 - NHL [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar14 119W TP 12 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Center Ice)
892 - NHL [MPEG4 SD] - Nimiq5 72.7W TP 09 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Center Ice)
893 - NHL [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar11 110W TP 24 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Center Ice)
893 - NHL [MPEG4 SD] - Nimiq5 72.7W TP 29 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Center Ice)
894 - NHL [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar11 110W TP 24 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Center Ice)
894 - NHL [MPEG4 SD] - Nimiq5 72.7W TP 29 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Center Ice)
895 - NHL [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar11 110W TP 24 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Center Ice)
895 - NHL [MPEG4 SD] - Nimiq5 72.7W TP 29 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Center Ice)
896 - NHL [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar11 110W TP 24 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Center Ice)
896 - NHL [MPEG4 SD] - Nimiq5 72.7W TP 29 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Center Ice)
897 - NHL [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar11 110W TP 24 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Center Ice)
897 - NHL [MPEG4 SD] - Nimiq5 72.7W TP 29 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Center Ice)
898 - NHL [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar11 110W TP 24 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Center Ice)
898 - NHL [MPEG4 SD] - Nimiq5 72.7W TP 29 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Center Ice)
899 - NHL [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar11 110W TP 24 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Center Ice)
899 - NHL [MPEG4 SD] - Nimiq5 72.7W TP 29 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Center Ice)
5453 - ALT12 [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar11 110W TP 24 ConUS beam changed to shown in non-sub's guides (A)
5453 - ALT12 [MPEG4 SD] - Nimiq5 72.7W TP 29 ConUS beam changed to shown in non-sub's guides (A)
5454 - ALT12 [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 25 ConUS beam changed to shown in non-sub's guides (A)
5454 - ALT12 [MPEG4 HD] - Nimiq5 72.7W TP 08 ConUS beam changed to shown in non-sub's guides (A)
5455 - ALT12 [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar14 119W TP 12 ConUS beam changed to shown in non-sub's guides (A)
5455 - ALT12 [MPEG4 SD] - Nimiq5 72.7W TP 29 ConUS beam changed to shown in non-sub's guides (A)
5456 - ALT12 [MPEG4 HD] - EchoStar14 119W TP 07 ConUS beam changed to shown in non-sub's guides (A)
5456 - ALT12 [MPEG4 HD] - Nimiq5 72.7W TP 01 ConUS beam changed to shown in non-sub's guides (A)
5457 - ALT12 [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar11 110W TP 24 ConUS beam changed to shown in non-sub's guides (A)
5457 - ALT12 [MPEG4 SD] - Nimiq5 72.7W TP 29 ConUS beam changed to shown in non-sub's guides (A)
5458 - ALT12 [MPEG4 HD] - EchoStar14 119W TP 07 ConUS beam changed to shown in non-sub's guides (A)
5458 - ALT12 [MPEG4 HD] - Nimiq5 72.7W TP 01 ConUS beam changed to shown in non-sub's guides (A)
5459 - ALT12 [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar11 110W TP 24 ConUS beam changed to shown in non-sub's guides (A)
5459 - ALT12 [MPEG4 SD] - Nimiq5 72.7W TP 29 ConUS beam changed to shown in non-sub's guides (A)
5460 - ALT12 [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 25 ConUS beam changed to shown in non-sub's guides (A)
5460 - ALT12 [MPEG4 HD] - Nimiq5 72.7W TP 08 ConUS beam changed to shown in non-sub's guides (A)
9492(129) - BRAVO [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 31 ConUS beam changed to free preview (A) (BRAVO)
9492(129) - BRAVO [MPEG4 HD] - Nimiq5 72.7W TP 11 ConUS beam changed to free preview (A) (BRAVO)
9535(413) - PAC12 [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 26 ConUS beam changed to free preview (A)
9535(413) - PAC12 [MPEG4 HD] - Nimiq5 72.7W TP 10 ConUS beam changed to free preview (A)
9541(117) - NHLN [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 30 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Network)
9541(117) - NHLN [MPEG4 HD] - Nimiq5 72.7W TP 03 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Network)
9543(119) - NHL [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 27 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Center Ice)
9543(119) - NHL [MPEG4 HD] - Nimiq5 72.7W TP 01 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Center Ice)
9544(120) - NHL [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 25 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Center Ice)
9544(120) - NHL [MPEG4 HD] - Nimiq5 72.7W TP 08 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Center Ice)
9545(121) - NHL [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 26 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Center Ice)
9545(121) - NHL [MPEG4 HD] - Nimiq5 72.7W TP 10 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Center Ice)
9546(122) - NHL [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 25 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Center Ice)
9546(122) - NHL [MPEG4 HD] - Nimiq5 72.7W TP 08 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Center Ice)
9547(123) - NHL [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 25 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Center Ice)
9547(123) - NHL [MPEG4 HD] - Nimiq5 72.7W TP 08 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Center Ice)
9548(124) - NHL [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 25 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Center Ice)
9548(124) - NHL [MPEG4 HD] - Nimiq5 72.7W TP 08 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Center Ice)
9549(125) - NHL [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 27 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Center Ice)
9549(125) - NHL [MPEG4 HD] - Nimiq5 72.7W TP 01 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Center Ice)
9550(126) - NHL [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 26 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Center Ice)
9550(126) - NHL [MPEG4 HD] - Nimiq5 72.7W TP 10 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Center Ice)
9551(127) - NHL [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 25 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Center Ice)
9551(127) - NHL [MPEG4 HD] - Nimiq5 72.7W TP 08 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Center Ice)
9552(128) - NHL [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 25 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Center Ice)
9552(128) - NHL [MPEG4 HD] - Nimiq5 72.7W TP 08 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Center Ice)
9553(129) - NHL [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 26 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Center Ice)
9553(129) - NHL [MPEG4 HD] - Nimiq5 72.7W TP 10 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Center Ice)
9554(130) - NHL [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 26 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Center Ice)
9554(130) - NHL [MPEG4 HD] - Nimiq5 72.7W TP 10 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Center Ice)
9555(131) - NHL [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 25 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Center Ice)
9555(131) - NHL [MPEG4 HD] - Nimiq5 72.7W TP 08 ConUS beam removed from free preview (A) (National Hockey League Center Ice)
9588(358) - SUND [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 29 ConUS beam changed to free preview (A) (Sundance Channel)
9588(358) - SUND [MPEG4 HD] - Nimiq5 72.7W TP 04 ConUS beam changed to free preview (A) (Sundance Channel)

Channel Renames:
5273(14) - KTWT (Mkt:Twin Falls, ID-Twin Falls, ID-FOX) - Ciel-2 129W TP 08 Spotbeam 12 renamed to KSVT (Mkt:Twin Falls, ID) (A) (H)
8804(14) - KTWT (Mkt:Twin Falls, ID-Twin Falls, ID-FOX) - EchoStar10 110W TP 31 Spotbeam 37 renamed to KSVT (Mkt:Twin Falls, ID) (A) (H)
195 - MIL (Military Channel) - EchoStar11 110W TP 05 ConUS beam renamed to AHC (A)
195 - MIL (Military Channel) - Echostar16 61.5W TP 15 Conus beam renamed to AHC (A)
195 - MIL (Military Channel) - Quetzsat1 77W TP 26 ConUS beam renamed to AHC (A)
4620 - MIL (Military Channel) - EchoStar11 110W TP 05 ConUS beam renamed to AHC (A) (H)
4620 - MIL (Military Channel) - Echostar16 61.5W TP 15 Conus beam renamed to AHC (A) (H)
4620 - MIL (Military Channel) - Quetzsat1 77W TP 26 ConUS beam renamed to AHC (A) (H)

Channels in the system: 9232
(A) = Available to subscribers
(NA) = Not Available
(H) = Hidden from non-subscribers
(FP) = Free Preview

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Scott Greczkowski

Mar 6, 2014

Ok here is what I know or am hearing. It may or may not be correct but I am telling you what I know.

1) While the new contract has been signed it is not in effect yet. Dish is not paying for channels they currently do not carry. I don't know when it goes into effect.

2) I am told the new HD channels are coming into DISH via Fiber not Satellite. This is not getting a receiver and flipping a switch.

3) There is a lot of work on the backend that must be done including the installation of new encoders, routers, and miles of wires needed to all make it work. There is no clicking of a computer keyboard that will magically get them on screen. This backend work must be done.

4) While there could be some empty transponders up there, remember they must keep a few spares in case a satellite has an issue. And in some cases (as documented in the DISH SEC Filings) some satellites have transponders that don't work.

5) Dish is currently going through a technology upgrade and is swapping out old legacy receivers for new 8PSK/MPEG4 receivers. This swap was supposed to be completed last month but they did not make their deadline so they extended it until March 31st.

As of March 31, 2014 DISH will End of Life (EOL) the following receiver models: 111, 1000, 1500, 3000, 3500, 4000 & 4500. As of this date, DISH will no longer activate any EOL model. Also, any active EOL model still on an account on this date will be deactivated. The approved replacement model is the 211k.

6) There is a huge channel / transponder swap scheduled for 3/27 which will reshuffle many channels on 129, 110, 119, 72.7, 61.5 and 118.7. While not confirmed I am hearing when they move the channels they are moving them new more efficiant encoders which not only provide as good or better PQ but use less bandwidth. The compressing technology keeps improving every day and DISH is investing a lot by constantly upgrading their encoders. This will open up more space.

A lot of people seem to think that because they had the channels that they can just hit a button and make them come back on. This is not the case, nor was the space from these channels saved, after a period of time the space went to bringing you other HD channels you want.

Ultimately there is a lot more that needs to be done then just getting a satellite receiver hooked up and then sending that signal out to viewers home. I wish I could bring you all to the uplink to see how it really works. You would be shocked how much work it takes to get a channel and get it to you. As I said the amount of cable they use is amazing!

I wouldn't expect the internet logins to WatchESPN and others to work until the same day and everything will probably be turned on on the date the new contract goes into effect.

Ultimately they are coming, and we know they are coming this Spring. Remember the saying... good things come to those who wait.

Jim5506

Mar 12, 2014

So, now Dish will receive their signal from the mouse via fiber, who would give the OK to make that connection BEFORE the contract was finalized?

Do you know how much fiber costs, do you realize how much fiber they have to install to carry all that data?

Do you think that maybe the protocols of reestablishing the HD link might have actually been in the agreement, which was not finalized until Sunday?

There is a whole lot of work that could not be done until the contract was finalized, were not just rearranging palates in a warehouse.

MCIBUS

Mar 13, 2014

I'm having trouble following this thread?

I see somethiong about Fiber, mouse and stuff like that. What I like to know is this has anything to do with your location? Like for those outside the US? Will they loose Dish? I have a Hopper & Joeys?

TNGTony

Mar 13, 2014

MCIBUS,

The fiber thing is nothing you or I or any subscriber needs to worry about. Nothing will change on the subscriber's end.

The whole thread can be boiled down to this:

> Dish and ABC/Disney/ESPN signed a long term carriage agreement late on Sunday, March 2. This agreement calls for Dish to carry Disney Channel, ABC Family, ESPNU, etc in HD.

> Everyone was waiting like kids at christmas for the channels to show up on the next uplink (March 5).
That didn't happen (obviously). This sparked endless speculation as to why.

> Scott found out that the agreement, though signed is not effective until whatever future date he mentioned in his post. Scott also mentioned that ABC/Disney/ESPN will be feeding the channel to Dish via fiberoptic cable. Again, this does NOT affect the subscribers other than Dish cannot uplink the channels to their satellites (for us to see) until this fiber-link is run. This is expensive and takes time.

> After that there is belly-aching and complaining by some that Dish should have proactively done all the back-end work because they are omniscient and should have known what the contract they hadn't signed yet stipulated.

mike123abc

Mar 13, 2014

Jim5506 said:
So, now Dish will receive their signal from the mouse via fiber, who would give the OK to make that connection BEFORE the contract was finalized?

Do you know how much fiber costs, do you realize how much fiber they have to install to carry all that data?

Do you think that maybe the protocols of reestablishing the HD link might have actually been in the agreement, which was not finalized until Sunday?

There is a whole lot of work that could not be done until the contract was finalized, were not just rearranging palates in a warehouse.

Nobody said Fiber transmission to Dish was a new thing... In fact if you remember the old discussions of when Dish lost the HD feeds fiber was in use then...

MCIBUS

Mar 14, 2014

That explains it perfectly. Canadian TV sucks, I'd die with out my TRUE!! US TV Stations & True US Programs.

As for the Disney thing its nice to se at least the kids will see their programs in HD.

Thanks TNGTony you've been a great help relaxing the nerves and fears of loosing Dish. I LOVE DISH NETWORK.

zippyfrog

Mar 25, 2014

Scott Greczkowski said:
Ok here is what I know or am hearing. It may or may not be correct but I am telling you what I know.
6) There is a huge channel / transponder swap scheduled for 3/27 which will reshuffle many channels on 129, 110, 119, 72.7, 61.5 and 118.7. While not confirmed I am hearing when they move the channels they are moving them new more efficiant encoders which not only provide as good or better PQ but use less bandwidth. The compressing technology keeps improving every day and DISH is investing a lot by constantly upgrading their encoders. This will open up more space.

Scott - do you know if it is still part of the plans to do this transponder shuffle/re-arranging on both arcs this week?

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meStevo

Lifetime Supporter

Last reply 2 minutes ago · posted in The Sports Section

NFL 2026-2027 Season

Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.

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Foxbat

Yesterday at 6:19 PM

I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:

Colts relieve general manager Chris Ballard of his duties

Colts Owner & CEO Carlie Irsay-Gordon released a statement Monday announcing the news.

www.colts.com

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rvvaquero

Yesterday at 9:00 PM

Foxbat said:
I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:

Colts relieve general manager Chris Ballard of his duties

Colts Owner & CEO Carlie Irsay-Gordon released a statement Monday announcing the news.

www.colts.com

Be nice to see a Cowboy headline like that.

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Mike0616

Yesterday at 9:35 PM

Foxbat said:
I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:

Colts relieve general manager Chris Ballard of his duties

Colts Owner & CEO Carlie Irsay-Gordon released a statement Monday announcing the news.

www.colts.com

Can we expect to see a new coach if we say "pretty please?"

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Foxbat

Yesterday at 11:25 PM

Jeeez, Week 6, no lead is safe…

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b4pjoe

Today at 9:22 AM

rvvaquero said:
Be nice to see a Cowboy headline like that.

Yes the Cowboys owner needs to fire the general manager (himself), co-owner, Chief Operating Officer (COO), Executive Vice President, Director of Player Personnel, and President of AT&T Stadium (his son) and then he should jump off of a cliff. Only then can they recover.

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rvvaquero

2 minutes ago

Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson had an argument about who was responsible for the dynasty building of the early 90's Cowboys.

The rest of us figured it out in about 3 years, Jerry has had over 30 years but still can't admit it. It's all he lives for, to show everyone he can put together a winner. I don't think he can. His kids only know what he taught them.

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dfergie

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!

Last reply 21 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Gas Price Info With National Gas Temperature Map

Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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Bobby

Sunday at 10:27 AM

Regular$5.999
Premium$6.399
Diesel$7.999
at Costco, Rohnert Park.

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dishstaller

Sunday at 12:32 PM

Bobby said:
Regular$5.999
Premium$6.399

Odd that out there, Prem is only 40 cents higher. Here it's a full dollar more.

Last night it was about $4.17 gas, $6,19 diesel.

harshness

Sunday at 2:04 PM

dishstaller said:
Odd that out there, Prem is only 40 cents higher. Here it's a full dollar more.

On the West Coast, a 40-cent differential is common. It used to be 30 cents before the prices rose above $3.

A "full dollar more" sounds like it may be boat gas (non-alcoholic), which is a whole different discussion.

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Foxbat

Sunday at 9:43 PM

Here in Indiana, the difference between Regular and Premium is usually a dollar, but some charge even more:

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dishstaller

Sunday at 10:06 PM

harshness said:
A "full dollar more" sounds like it may be boat gas (non-alcoholic),

Both non-ethanol and prem run about the same....buck more. When we were up in TN it was a buck more up there as well.

harshness

Yesterday at 9:34 AM

In Oregon, our premium boat gas is about a dollar more than our corn premium. Several stations only offer the non-corn premium grade.

Bobby

21 minutes ago

Regular$5.899
Premium$6.299
Diesel$7.999
at Costco, Rohnert Park.

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Scott Greczkowski

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge

Last reply 23 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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hwkn

Today at 2:44 AM

LITTLE Willy-Sweet

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ClarkGable

Today at 5:59 AM

Little Deuce Coupe - The Beach Boys

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gms49ers

Today at 8:59 AM

The Boys of Summer - Don Henley

FTA4PA

Today at 10:15 AM

Summer In The City - The Lovin' Spoonful

Bobby

23 minutes ago

Gonna Send You Back To Georgia (A City Slick) - Timmy Shaw

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Howard Simmons

Lifetime Supporter

27 minutes ago · posted in Movie Talk

November 1963

Can't wait to see this:

John Travolta & Robert Carlyle Lead New JFK Assassination Movie in November 1963 Trailer

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TWiT Tech Podcast Network

Today at 10:32 AM · posted in TWiT Tech Podcast Network

America’s $10 Trillion AI Boom Is Starting to Crack #shorts

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!

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TvMind

Last reply Today at 10:22 AM · posted in C-BAND Satellite Discussion

SES 1 101° W Horizontal "Issues" a.k.a "I want my M(e)TV"

Howdy folks long time no write.

Issue(s): Horizontal transponders (esp. Weigel mux) breakup/mosaic/sputtering audio, JTV less so (but received perfectly up until a month or so ago.
Vertical is fine (Daystar). Up until recently couldn't even get any signal on Weigel Mux but JTV was perfect.

What I did to improve things: A slight westward move improved reception but only slightly (approx 72 on the micro HD, sorry no dB to post). I removed the 3-way C-Band splitter and used a 2-way to get a 1-2 db signal gain ( the power port goes to the Startrak - the micro HD doesn't have enough juice ! (1st clue) even after swapping the switching power supply it came with with a heftier linear 12 V supply (less RFI too !).
I have had issues with the uHD before signal breaking up that a reboot would clear up (clue #2 = dying tuner?) - FYI, I reinforced the IF input and removed all flux from the pcb completely with a Flux Removal Pen (MG Chemicals Cat No. 4140-P) which definitely makes a huge difference.

I went outside and pushed and pulled reflector slightly and no improvement. Pole (actually tower in yard - the neighbours love me..NOT) is plumb, checked with carpenters level. Dish was last peaked in 2017 or so, after overhauling 24" Von Weise, new Acme, fresh grease, etc. Focal length, f/d ratio etc meticulously adjusted. One panel has a tear so planning to repair that this weekend when my cousin comes over ( to help me out (old guy here) forecast calls for sunshine.

What has changed: My utility company has installed new high tension line poles (one smack dab in the middle of 101°W target! But they put it in last year and reception (of JTV (HOR) at least) was fine, BUT when they came out to transfer the wires over this year from the old (sawed in half) pole that's about when the troubles started (coincidence?), but again Daystar (VER) was fine. I always had this pole in the light of sight of 101° before with no issues. (fyi my zenith sat 74° is unobstucted, but can't test)

In the meantime Weigel mux is trying to break in MOSTLY in LATE at night (less cell usage?) (audio not video except for a frame here or there) so don't know what has changed with this mux which suddenly "woke up". I have never had to fuss with dish moves on this satellite ( the slightest move +/- motor clicks loses lock, wheres normally on C-band I can go significantly wider east or west and still have a strong signal ( have these gone "spot beam" or narrower somehow and what is the slight difference in Az listed on Lyngsat to 100.9° affect things ( isn't that the declination i.e. requiring a tweak of declination?).

Long story short (too late, ha), if I had another DVB-S2 box to try and / or a newer more stable PLL lnb ( I have been meaning to upgrade many a time but never got arround to it) I could determine if it's my antiquated receiving equipment, or my dish/feed alignment ( doubtful as it tracks everything from 55 °W to 133 ° W nicely.) or the dreaded 5G! (BUT only on HOR and not VER?).
I read another post where the OP (with his smaller 7.5 footer) played around with the illumination to peak desired transponder and reduce qrm on interfering/ stronger xpndrs (even on 103° W). So will play with that too - and cut away the RG-6 a and pull up a fresh section with new PPC and coax Seal. Open the throat cap see if any cobwebs are there and check servo operation (also changed in last maintence 10 years ago).

Finally, this will probably be the last chance I get to play with the BUD from the looks of it (providers leaving, auctioning off rest of spectrum imminent above 4.0 Ghz, and to keep the peace with neighbours so it would be nice to have that mux back for the long, cold and dark winters to comfort this old man before I call it quits and buy a VHF/UHF/FM Yagi and get MeTV, H&I from my Vermont local stations (checked at a friends today and they come in nicely - except ABC) .
Only one guy in town (Montreal) I may be able to get a receiver or PLL lnb from to try (RPS Sat) so hopefully with elimnate that as a possible culprit. Be nice to pick up a cheap or used PLL lnb to try w/o 5G BPF (money is tight )

Like others I couldn't care less about "tv" (well maybe just a liitle or a lot) it's the challenge that excites me , I can get MeTV other ways OTA (no pirate crap).

So what do you guys (and gals) think ?. p.s. I don't have a spectrum analyzer and there are def/ cell towers nearby (half a Km or so away).
Oh and time permitting will hammer out dings too and wire damaged mesh on one section for an extra dB or two. Hesitate to touch Declination, Elevation and pole mount but will play around with those a little too... Why is this mux for finicky suddenly ?(8psk, 5/6 fec, beamwidthetc.. man wish they went back to VER I think everthing would be fine! For the engineers out here does 5G QRM affect one poliarization (HOR) more than another (VER)? I understand the strong interference swamps out the input mixer/local oscilator in the hapless old C-band lnb (I think it at time affect KU too esp. LPB on 101°W KU - incidentally thos were weak or "gone' but are back almost at the time MeTV improved..hmm Terrestrial interference?

Any thoughts or suggestions ( cheap or free solutions please) greatly appreciated. Cheers.

p.p.s. Micro HD can't display Decades and Toons but records them fine so I can watch on another box/media player (Ali chip set issue). Another reason to upgrade.

Anybody interested in a nice C/KU system free ? (for next Spring/Summer 2027)

[Sami 10' mesh, Corotor II+, Eagle Aspen (very old) C-band lnb, Norsat Ku lnb, Channel Master C/Ku (H/V) switch, Startrak 400 Analog receiver w/ motor control, Geosat uHD DVD-S2, CW600S for Mpeg-2]

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cyberham

Sep 30, 2026

With the microHD connected this afternoon and tuned to the Weigel mux, I can receive the mux well.

My conclusion is that the sensitivity of the receivers in descending order of sensitivity is as follows:

V9 Prime (best)
microHD
Edision osmio4k+

Either the V9 or the microHD could be used to watch Weigel but the Edision really could not with my given dish situation, at least during the daytime. At night, the signal is stronger here and then maybe the Edision could be used.

Titanium

Oct 1, 2026

What is the SNR readings for these transponders? Is the signal breaking up due to low SNR or interference?

Did you inspect the feedhorn throat and wave guide for wasp nest or other blockage? Good SNR with frequent drops in decoding ( loss of SQ readings) could indicate interference from 5G.

TvMind

Oct 13, 2026

Appreciate you checking. I should be picking these up with the tenner so still not done tuning up the bud - fell off ladder last week and hit my head!

Started over from scratch, N/S alignment, El/Decl extreme West sat, played with feed f/d checking everything and getting nice signals but still 101 west is PIA. New lnb was defective and returned it. My old one is fine but would have liked to A/B with a better lnb.

Thought it was the servo there because I was out and set everything up by the dish and flipping to HOR made a strange noise -BUT ONLY on 101 W ! All other sats skew is fine..hmm ( I have the skew almost perfect, use "Arrow" template on Zenith Sat (well nothing on 74 W to check with but Nimiq 5 at 72.6 W is closest and luckily picking up R- Pol channel from Canada to test with. Anyway picking up a new servo to try (the obvious polarity culprit).

Q. Back in the day PAS9 (74 W) was used but now I have to use closest zenith sat (Nimiq 5). I can't perfectly peak on that one which is 1 degree off (N/S alignment error). I used my trusty Brunton compass and even true noon shadow off pole to hit south.

I did have to peak extreme west by rotating mount ever so slighty so tracking extreme pretty good, but top and middle can use an elevation tweak (esp. Ku) to bring them back to where they were. No fun as the weather has been miserable and still dizzy from fall.

Oh and the Freesat V8 is crap (the tuner pixelates when the uHD is solid!) but love that SCART connector for S-Video out ! (I record to my Pio DVR and burn to DVD classic tv shows).

Stay tuned

cyberham said:
With the microHD connected this afternoon and tuned to the Weigel mux, I can receive the mux well.

TvMind

Oct 13, 2026

Titanium said:
Did you inspect the feedhorn throat and wave guide for wasp nest or other blockage? Good SNR with frequent drops in decoding ( loss of SQ readings) could indicate interference from 5G.

Thanks for chiming in here. No wasps (or hornets nests) but good suggestion.

I am getting 70 and over Quality on uHD which is good but as you say the signal drops out (70 to 0 ) occasionally and much worse by day (even JTV which I used to get solid is a mess in the day. Again Daystar (VER) is fine but still not what it used to be.

I will will either have to get a BPF or go VHF/UHF for these channels but not giving up just yet!

p.s. Isn't there something between your feedhorn/lnbf BPF model and Norsat's 1500$ BPF and 5G filtering lnb's? Heck almost ready for a diy (reverse engineer) job here (microwave BPF hack) Ah where is Radio Electronics when you need it! If it wasn't for losing Ku I'd buy your lnbf in a heartbeat! Are these hard to add Ku to?

Titanium

Wednesday at 1:19 PM

Our LNBFs are integrated with the feedhorn and no KU option. Maybe install an inline waveguide BPF such as:

www.ebay.com/itm/158077455896
www.ebay.com/itm/960059145385
www.ebay.com/itm/158007483799

brownsfan1

Yesterday at 9:22 PM

TvMind said:
Howdy folks long time no write.

Issue(s): Horizontal transponders (esp. Weigel mux) breakup/mosaic/sputtering audio, JTV less so (but received perfectly up until a month or so ago.
Vertical is fine (Daystar). Up until recently couldn't even get any signal on Weigel Mux but JTV was perfect.

What I did to improve things: A slight westward move improved reception but only slightly (approx 72 on the micro HD, sorry no dB to post). I removed the 3-way C-Band splitter and used a 2-way to get a 1-2 db signal gain ( the power port goes to the Startrak - the micro HD doesn't have enough juice ! (1st clue) even after swapping the switching power supply it came with with a heftier linear 12 V supply (less RFI too !).
I have had issues with the uHD before signal breaking up that a reboot would clear up (clue #2 = dying tuner?) - FYI, I reinforced the IF input and removed all flux from the pcb completely with a Flux Removal Pen (MG Chemicals Cat No. 4140-P) which definitely makes a huge difference.

I went outside and pushed and pulled reflector slightly and no improvement. Pole (actually tower in yard - the neighbours love me..NOT) is plumb, checked with carpenters level. Dish was last peaked in 2017 or so, after overhauling 24" Von Weise, new Acme, fresh grease, etc. Focal length, f/d ratio etc meticulously adjusted. One panel has a tear so planning to repair that this weekend when my cousin comes over ( to help me out (old guy here) forecast calls for sunshine.

What has changed: My utility company has installed new high tension line poles (one smack dab in the middle of 101°W target! But they put it in last year and reception (of JTV (HOR) at least) was fine, BUT when they came out to transfer the wires over this year from the old (sawed in half) pole that's about when the troubles started (coincidence?), but again Daystar (VER) was fine. I always had this pole in the light of sight of 101° before with no issues. (fyi my zenith sat 74° is unobstucted, but can't test)

In the meantime Weigel mux is trying to break in MOSTLY in LATE at night (less cell usage?) (audio not video except for a frame here or there) so don't know what has changed with this mux which suddenly "woke up". I have never had to fuss with dish moves on this satellite ( the slightest move +/- motor clicks loses lock, wheres normally on C-band I can go significantly wider east or west and still have a strong signal ( have these gone "spot beam" or narrower somehow and what is the slight difference in Az listed on Lyngsat to 100.9° affect things ( isn't that the declination i.e. requiring a tweak of declination?).

Long story short (too late, ha), if I had another DVB-S2 box to try and / or a newer more stable PLL lnb ( I have been meaning to upgrade many a time but never got arround to it) I could determine if it's my antiquated receiving equipment, or my dish/feed alignment ( doubtful as it tracks everything from 55 °W to 133 ° W nicely.) or the dreaded 5G! (BUT only on HOR and not VER?).
I read another post where the OP (with his smaller 7.5 footer) played around with the illumination to peak desired transponder and reduce qrm on interfering/ stronger xpndrs (even on 103° W). So will play with that too - and cut away the RG-6 a and pull up a fresh section with new PPC and coax Seal. Open the throat cap see if any cobwebs are there and check servo operation (also changed in last maintence 10 years ago).

Finally, this will probably be the last chance I get to play with the BUD from the looks of it (providers leaving, auctioning off rest of spectrum imminent above 4.0 Ghz, and to keep the peace with neighbours so it would be nice to have that mux back for the long, cold and dark winters to comfort this old man before I call it quits and buy a VHF/UHF/FM Yagi and get MeTV, H&I from my Vermont local stations (checked at a friends today and they come in nicely - except ABC) .
Only one guy in town (Montreal) I may be able to get a receiver or PLL lnb from to try (RPS Sat) so hopefully with elimnate that as a possible culprit. Be nice to pick up a cheap or used PLL lnb to try w/o 5G BPF (money is tight )

Like others I couldn't care less about "tv" (well maybe just a liitle or a lot) it's the challenge that excites me , I can get MeTV other ways OTA (no pirate crap).

So what do you guys (and gals) think ?. p.s. I don't have a spectrum analyzer and there are def/ cell towers nearby (half a Km or so away).
Oh and time permitting will hammer out dings too and wire damaged mesh on one section for an extra dB or two. Hesitate to touch Declination, Elevation and pole mount but will play around with those a little too... Why is this mux for finicky suddenly ?(8psk, 5/6 fec, beamwidthetc.. man wish they went back to VER I think everthing would be fine! For the engineers out here does 5G QRM affect one poliarization (HOR) more than another (VER)? I understand the strong interference swamps out the input mixer/local oscilator in the hapless old C-band lnb (I think it at time affect KU too esp. LPB on 101°W KU - incidentally thos were weak or "gone' but are back almost at the time MeTV improved..hmm Terrestrial interference?

Any thoughts or suggestions ( cheap or free solutions please) greatly appreciated. Cheers.

p.p.s. Micro HD can't display Decades and Toons but records them fine so I can watch on another box/media player (Ali chip set issue). Another reason to upgrade.

Anybody interested in a nice C/KU system free ? (for next Spring/Summer 2027)

[Sami 10' mesh, Corotor II+, Eagle Aspen (very old) C-band lnb, Norsat Ku lnb, Channel Master C/Ku (H/V) switch, Startrak 400 Analog receiver w/ motor control, Geosat uHD DVD-S2, CW600S for Mpeg-2]

I had the EXACT same problem happen to me with 101w, MeTV mux (Weigel). Working great when about 3 weeks ago I started to get the pixelating, especially at night. Sometimes Jewelry TV would also do it, sometimes not. Tweaked my dish. I have a Titanium 240 feed with the 5G filter 4.0-4.2 band pass. Every other satellite is working fine. Something on their end for sure. Power reduction? My signal seems fine like always. Running a Winegard 8.5 ft dish using a GT Media UHD V8. I'm sure my receiver isn't maybe sensitive enough for lower signal levels. Frustrating here too. I'm in the Canton, Ohio area. Thanks!

arlo

Today at 10:22 AM

To me it looks like all of the intelligent things to diagnose the problem 'on the cheap' are being done.
I have my own thoughts of lnbf's using an external filter between the feed and coax. It would be cool to see what Brian could add.
Do his units have the filter before the actual LNA chip in the circuit? In other words, signal is focused at the lnbf throat. The probes for h & v polarity send the signal to.......filtering......then to the lna IC......
Or probes, lna, then filtering. Makes sense to trap the bad stuff before amplification to me.

On the cheap sometimes leaves questions. Enosat and El Bandido both use dvb-s pci cards and TBS USB receivers.
With those, and software. Signal analysis becomes sort of easy. Or tapping into your coax with a dc pass splitter, decoupling capacitor, and using a spectrum analyzer. Tuning across the LO band. Finding signal spikes. Digging deep.

Still making my decision on a (most probably) TBS PCIe tuner card. But I have tapped into my coax with my ancient but quite impressive HP spectrum analyzer and tinysa.
I don't have 5G interference so far that I know of. But have my suspects because I'm only able to snag signal from 131W in the winter when the leaves drop. But out of curiosity do scan it in the fall. And seem to be getting a signal that 'shouldn't' be there and a scan shows no channels. Far as I got.

An idea pops up to rig up an LNBF on a stick. Along with the tinysa and power supply and do some rogue signal searches. War Driving, of sorts. But. I wouldn't think that a chinabox, firmware based receiver would be of much help.
From what I see scanning across the frequency band. 5G cell transmission is always on and is very wide spectrum.
Whether anyone is actually using talking, texting, watching stupid human tricks on YouTube Makes no difference. The RF is there. So why would a C Band setup come and go? And what if you dumped the corotor and went modern voltage controlled polarity?

Another thought. Since you've learned the optimal position to place the scalar to illuminate out to the dish rim. And peaked the feed. There's most of a roll of aluminum flashing out in my garage that would most definitely wrap around my dish perimeter. That and a bag of large binder clips from the office supply. wally world. Ideas?

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Am I the only one that hates what Dish did to their mobile app?

I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?

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Friday at 2:51 PM

I like the new look, it's a lot cleaner. I'm using it on one of those Onn streaming devices when I travel.

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Therm

Friday at 3:39 PM

dishdude said:
I like the new look, it's a lot cleaner. I'm using it on one of those Onn streaming devices when I travel.

Yes a lot cleaner, glossier, and less functional. Someone trying to justify why they are making a big salary. "See look shiny"

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"Big salary." Charlie. "?Big?"

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Seems in some ways better. Nicer layout, as others said maybe cleaner. Moving ahead in the guide is better.

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Today at 8:46 AM

Therm said:
I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?

I think most are using it on a firestick or other device as an extra receiver, rather than their phone. Just a guess based on how I use it. 99% thru my firestick, 1% phone.

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reubenray

Yesterday at 1:30 PM

I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?

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Yesterday at 3:47 PM

reubenray said:
I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?

Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.

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reubenray

Yesterday at 3:54 PM

long_time_Dish said:
Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.

Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.

long_time_Dish

Yesterday at 8:36 PM

reubenray said:
Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.

If I understand your question, O'Neill had the Ancient's knowledge in the "Lost City" two-part episode. That was when Anubis attacked Earth and there was a big battle over Antarctica.

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reubenray

Today at 7:35 AM

long_time_Dish said:
If I understand your question, O'Neill had the Ancient's knowledge in the "Lost City" two-part episode. That was when Anubis attacked Earth and there was a big battle over Antarctica.

Those are the episodes I am looking for. They are referred to a lot in the episodes I just recently watched.

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