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I'm currently with DirecTV and looking to make a move to Dish. My current Genie receiver is getting slower by the day to operate and is really frustrating me. One issue I'm having though with making the move to Dish is the number of available tuners I would have with the Hopper/Joey system. Currently with DTV I have a total of 11 tuners in my house on 5 TV's (Genie, 1 HD Receiver, 1 Standard Receiver, and 2 HR22 Receivers), so I never run into issues with not having enough tuners available.

If I go with Dish's Hopper and 1 Super Joey, I'd have 5 tuners available with 1 going towards PTAT (4 free tuners), or if I go with 2 Hoppers I'd have 6 tuners available with 1 going to PTAT (5 free tuners) but I would not have true integration between the 2 hoppers for managing recordings.

Would Dish allow me to have a Hopper and 2 Super Joey's ? This would give me 7 tuners available with 1 going to PTAT, but still leaving me with 6 available tuners. At least with this configuration, I could manage all recordings via the hopper, and have the most available tuners for the house to use. I just want to be sure that I have enough tuners as I am currently running with 5 TV's.
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Would Dish allow a customer to have 2 Hoppers, and a Super Joey ? Just trying to get the most tuners as possible like I have currently with DTV.
agentc13
Would Dish allow a customer to have 2 Hoppers, and a Super Joey ? Just trying to get the most tuners as possible like I have currently with DTV.

Nope.

Super Joey is only available with a single Hopper.
trido
Well I just had 2 HWS and 2 joeys installed wed/However I want to give back one joey and get one Super joey are you saying they wont allow that since I have 2 HWS on?
I want to keep one Hopper NOT linked so I need more tuners for the other Hopper and joey but need a Super Joey on this hopper also.Well I have a call in to local installer so I hope they will to this today.\
1x HWS standalone
1x HWS ,joey,Super Joey
I HOPE
Nope.

Super Joey is only available with a single Hopper.
Scherrman
Well I just had 2 HWS and 2 joeys installed wed/However I want to give back one joey and get one Super joey are you saying they wont allow that since I have 2 HWS on?
I want to keep one Hopper NOT linked so I need more tuners for the other Hopper and joey but need a Super Joey on this hopper also.Well I have a call in to local installer so I hope they will to this today.\
1x HWS standalone
1x HWS ,joey,Super Joey
I HOPE

You will not be able to activate a Super Joey on an account with two Hoppers. It is currently not allowed even if you tried installing it yourself.
Scherrman
Sorry, it's the Hopper with Sling.
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Sorry, it's the Hopper with Sling.

Ah, ok - thanks for that explanation. So if I call Dish, will they allow me to do this, or would they tell me that it can't be done ? I thought I read somewhere that they were only allowing 1 Hopper per account.
Scherrman
Ah, ok - thanks for that explanation. So if I call Dish, will they allow me to do this, or would they tell me that it can't be done ? I thought I read somewhere that they were only allowing 1 Hopper per account.


When the Hopper system first came out they were only allowing one Hopper but now there shouldn't be an issue. I would recommend getting signed up by using the Dirt Internet Response Team (DIRT) on here. If you haven't yet you should look to see if you have a local retailer that can help you. You'll get much better customer support going with either of those.
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When the Hopper system first came out they were only allowing one Hopper but now there shouldn't be an issue. I would recommend getting signed up by using the Dirt Internet Response Team (DIRT) on here. If you haven't yet you should look to see if you have a local retailer that can help you. You'll get much better customer support going with either of those.

How do I get in touch with someone at DIRT ?
trido
never mind I can not link 2 hoppers to share 6 tuners ,darn my luck I learn to FULLY research before such a big change


understood let me ask this hope i can get this working
again i have
2x HWS
2x joeys
the one hopper is now a standalone unit can i now take it and set it up in the setting so guess i say all 4 boxes are all tied in?
meaning i have 6 total tuners cause we don't use primetime?

thanks

You will not be able to activate a Super Joey on an account with two Hoppers. It is currently not allowed even if you tried installing it yourself.
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never mind I can not link 2 hoppers to share 6 tuners ,darn my luck I learn to FULLY research before such a big change
Stick Joeys at the TV locations where you want to watch live tuners on both hoppers. Then you can link back and forth to either hopper.
trido
what does this do for me
menu-settings-network setup-whole home is where you link them all togahter. if your hoppers and joeys are all linked togather you should be able to use what ever 6 tuners are avail that does include being able to watch all the recordings no matter what hopper they are recorded on. now if you press the red hot key to see what tuners are avail it will still show three you have to switch hoppers to see the others but there are always 6 tuners you can use for live tv or recording.

here is what i have
2 x hoppers
2 x joeys
i like to share 6 tuners between 4 tv
will the above info do that for me?
or do this setup for 5 tuners
1 x hopper
1 x super joey
2 x joey
this way i share 5 tuners?
the first setup I am still not clear thou I am told will share 6 tuners but switching from hopper to hopper


Stick Joeys at the TV locations where you want to watch live tuners on both hoppers. Then you can link back and forth to either hopper.
Scherrman
How do I get in touch with someone at DIRT ?

Here's a link to private message one of them.

http://www.satelliteguys.us/private.php?do=newpm&u=162470
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Perfect Scherman - thanks for the help
lucky86
You can't share tuners between hoppers.

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david_jr
what does this do for me
menu-settings-network setup-whole home is where you link them all togahter. if your hoppers and joeys are all linked togather you should be able to use what ever 6 tuners are avail that does include being able to watch all the recordings no matter what hopper they are recorded on. now if you press the red hot key to see what tuners are avail it will still show three you have to switch hoppers to see the others but there are always 6 tuners you can use for live tv or recording.

here is what i have
2 x hoppers
2 x joeys
i like to share 6 tuners between 4 tv
will the above info do that for me?
or do this setup for 5 tuners
1 x hopper
1 x super joey
2 x joey
this way i share 5 tuners?
the first setup I am still not clear thou I am told will share 6 tuners but switching from hopper to hopper

If you have an over air antenna on your house you can add the OTA module to each of your Hoppers giving you an extra network channel on each Hopper for a total of 8 tuners to share with 4 TVs.

Once you get used to your setup I don't think you will feel lack of integration as such a hardship. We have 2 Hoppers and 3 Joeys on 5 TVs and 5 users and I have never had any complaints about tuner access. Of course we use PTAT and are addicted to Autohop on the network channels. If you watch even a little Primetime Network TV you should really consider activating PTAT on the nights you watch Network. It is a GREAT feature.
trido
so your saying if i have living room hopper 1 bed 1 hopper 2 master bed joey i have that joey linked to living rm 1 hopper.
so joey would have to link and unlink to go between both hoopers meaning that joey can use tuners from either hopper just a matter of settings?

well this might be better but i have dis taking back a hopper today for a super joey. I guess i check out what you said real fast.

thanks

Stick Joeys at the TV locations where you want to watch live tuners on both hoppers. Then you can link back and forth to either hopper.
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so your saying if i have living room hopper 1 bed 1 hopper 2 master bed joey i have that joey linked to living rm 1 hopper.
so joey would have to link and unlink to go between both hoopers meaning that joey can use tuners from either hopper just a matter of settings?
Exactly. Joeys can link back and forth between either hopper pretty easily in the settings. If you need only 1 room to have access to all the tuners, then you may want to put a Joey in that room so it can link back and forth to find a free tuner.

If you want everything integrated and can deal with one less tuner, then your Super Joey plan is the way to go. It's definitely less confusing for a family who might be less tech savvy.
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A continuation of a thread from the pub, just general discussion of AI.

Brief 60 minute clip about next gem autonomous fighters - not remote controlled, but rather collaborating with controllers and aircraft in the theater.


View: https://youtu.be/DRm0mbp_n1k


We've literally got a movie already about this ;)


View: https://youtu.be/a2PW7a9ViDc
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dishstaller
Been reading this thread but not commenting much, primarily because there is so much "news" out there on this topic and it is hard to tell what is real and what is theater.
My biggest problem with AI is that these agents are taught...not necessarily programmed but taught. Well, there's an old saying "garbage in/garbage out". I remember a Joe Rogan show a while back when he had Elon Musk on and they talked about AI and Elon said one of the AIs (can't remember which one, sorry) was asked which was worse, Thermonuclear War or mis-gendering Kaitlyn Jenner and it came back with the answer that mis-gendering was worse. Now forget the politics involved with all the gender stuff we have been subjected to the past few years.....to say that mis-gendering is worse than the killing of hundreds of millions, perhaps billions of human beings.....Kaitlyn Jenner included.....is simply insane not to mention incredibly dangerous.
meStevo
Been reading this thread but not commenting much, primarily because there is so much "news" out there on this topic and it is hard to tell what is real and what is theater.
My biggest problem with AI is that these agents are taught...not necessarily programmed but taught. Well, there's an old saying "garbage in/garbage out". I remember a Joe Rogan show a while back when he had Elon Musk on and they talked about AI and Elon said one of the AIs (can't remember which one, sorry) was asked which was worse, Thermonuclear War or mis-gendering Kaitlyn Jenner and it came back with the answer that mis-gendering was worse. Now forget the politics involved with all the gender stuff we have been subjected to the past few years.....to say that mis-gendering is worse than the killing of hundreds of millions, perhaps billions of human beings.....Kaitlyn Jenner included.....is simply insane not to mention incredibly dangerous.

Agents need appropriate context to make what would be understood as the correct read in a situation like that, and that Gemini answer was a clear miss on that front.

That said, we've also seen Musk (and/or his team) put his thumb on the scale (or just release a very poor product) with his own deployed AI since:


In the end, it's all a tool. Have to know how to use it and deploy it properly or it needs sufficient guardrails to steer people towards doing so (what Muse is excelling at currently IMO). I'm routinely interacting with several agents a day operating various processes locally and in services I use, and there are numerous others silently spun up to perform actions or satisfy requests from my prompts.

Related to earlier discussion in the thread on leveraging local inference: this kind of analysis happening behind the scenes is something everyone will have built into Windows, IMO. Most people won't see all of this, just the results, unless they want to dig into how the fix was chosen. Stuff like this will be standard as agents get local system access baked in, and more of the inference itself moves on-device.

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Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Mississippi Cotton Picking Delta Town - Charley Pride
harshness
Delta Dawn - Tanya Tucker
dishstaller
Can't You See - Marshall Tucker Band
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See You in September - The Happenings
long_time_Dish
You Look Like You Love Me - Ella Langley
meStevo
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
After having experienced Gus Ferguson trying to call soccer games, I'm uncertain why NFL football analysts get hate. Even the "worst" of them are pretty good.
meStevo
Jalen Hurts out indefinitely as they treat and monitor a superficial blood clot in his leg.


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Browns lead the AFC North 🤣

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Picked up a sweet directv dish, mount, twin lnbs and a short cable.
Has anyone converted one to FTA? A Frankenstein of sorts...
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Titanium
Yes, many have hacked a DirecTV or Dish Network dish before. Quite undersized, but would receive the 97w KU stations with an LNBF swap. Make a template to set the LNBF face angle and distance from the reflector. Remove the current circular polarity LNBFs and make a bracket to hold the replacement linear LNBF in the correct centered position. Remember to set the polarity skew.
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would probably also work well for NHK on 101W and possibly for PBS on 99W. I used one for a while on 30W. Just keep in mind that because it's undersized for those satellites, it might work fine in clear weather but won't have much margin to account for signal degradation during rain/snow
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If you can find one, the Shaw / Star Choice 75e ellipticals are great for use on 97, 99, and 101W. They are really just rebranded ChannelMaster 75 cm reflectors and use linear LNBFs by default out of the box.

Everyone else's mileage may vary.
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I have read that some have converted this type dish but after giving it a good look, it's the lnb conversion that is the bottleneck. Does anyone have a picture of their attempt to configure the lnb? I watched a video on youtube from the save it for parts guy and he used duct tape! Guess it worked but I'm thinking something a bit more permanent!
Thanks to all for your interest and replies...
Titanium
Many of us have used a universal LNBF mount (or get creative with L brackets and plumbers tape - perforated metal strapping). Use a few inches of aluminum tube (or a piece of 1x2" lumber) to extend the support arm (replacing the plastic mount used by DirecTV and Dish) to place the LNBF throat opening at the correct distance from the reflector, the correct height and at the correct angle. Nothing magical... simply place the new linear LNBF in the center at the same distance, height and angle as the current combo.
www.amazon.com/Universal-Single-Bracket-Holder-FTA-US/dp/B074L85WK2
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dfergie
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Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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Bobby
Regular$6.099​
Premium$6.599​
Diesel$7.999​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
Bobby
Regular$5.999​
Premium$6.399​
Diesel$7.999​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
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I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.
dishstaller
Regular$5.999​
Premium$6.399​
Odd that out there, Prem is only 40 cents higher. Here it's a full dollar more.

Last night it was about $4.17 gas, $6,19 diesel.
harshness
Odd that out there, Prem is only 40 cents higher. Here it's a full dollar more.
On the West Coast, a 40-cent differential is common. It used to be 30 cents before the prices rose above $3.

A "full dollar more" sounds like it may be boat gas (non-alcoholic), which is a whole different discussion.
K
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Season 2 order already in hand:

'Star Trek: Starfleet Academy' Renewed for Season 2, Tatiana Maslany to Guest Star in Season 1

I've not been optimistic about this show based on what I've read so far. Seems to be aimed at a younger audience. Interesting though that Tatiana Maslany will have some sort of role.
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K
I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.
K
I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.
Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.
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Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.
Yeah, the foot stuff was just nasty. I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less. Funny, I love being shoe less at home and never wear shoes indoors in my home for long, but seeing her laying on all her furniture with her bare feet hanging out just kind of grossed me out.
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harshness
I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less.
Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?
MikeD-C05
Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?
There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure. So walking around the station like she did she would get stuff on her feet. I am sure the robot vacuum is still going to miss stuff, with all those different alien species running around there.
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harshness
There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure.
Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.
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This started a couple months ago. I have 2 H3s on one network, both with 2 EHD identical 3 TB seperately powered so all recordings are accessible by all 4k & J4s (8 of them).

On one H3 (not the main one that controls the MOCA network), after it reboots, it doesn't recognize it has two EHDs plugged into it. Rebooting the EHD by their power source doesn't fix it. Resetting the network doesn't. Software h3 reset doesn't fix it. Rebooting MOCA h3 doesn't fix it but so far, after 3+ cold boots (unplug pwr to H3 with unrecognized EHDs), it finally it figures out they are plugged into it. BUT.... Then when you open a program it only partially shows series and episodes, but instead of showing recordings, it only shows upcoming airings. HELP!!!!
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navychop
It'll only see two EHDs at a time.
Almighty1
JohnGalt1234 - So you basically have 2 Hopper 3's. The CasinoH3 is the one that is Hopper 3 only while Master Bedroom is a Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus setup.
Master Bedroom uses Android TV (ATV) software so the DISH part is actually a app and will behave differently as you can probably tell the Guide's are different on the Master Bedroom which will resemble the same guide used on other ATV devices such as the Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4. If I am correct, the CasinoH3 is the one with the problem since you did say the one dated 09/05/2026 is the naughty one while 08/15/2026 named Master Bedroom is the nice one. Usually I would expect the CasinoH3 to be the one without the problem because it's Hopper 3 only and Master Bedroom would be the one with problems because it has the Hopper Plus involved. That is why they behave differently because CasinoH3 is running the native Hopper 3 software while Master Bedroom is running the Android TV software and also it runs a app called DISH known as package com.dish.atv.launcher, the version for mines is P15403 2026100917 so it's probably the same version as the Hopper Plus software version with the date of October 9, 2026, not sure what the 17 means except maybe revision 17?

This explains it better than I can. Sorry, had to take all the ads out.

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JohnGalt1234 - So you basically have 2 Hopper 3's. The CasinoH3 is the one that is Hopper 3 only while Master Bedroom is a Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus setup.
Master Bedroom uses Android TV (ATV) software so the DISH part is actually a app and will behave differently as you can probably tell the Guide's are different on the Master Bedroom which will resemble the same guide used on other ATV devices such as the Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4. If I am correct, the CasinoH3 is the one with the problem since you did say the one dated 09/05/2026 is the naughty one while 08/15/2026 named Master Bedroom is the nice one. Usually I would expect the CasinoH3 to be the one without the problem because it's Hopper 3 only and Master Bedroom would be the one with problems because it has the Hopper Plus involved. That is why they behave differently because CasinoH3 is running the native Hopper 3 software while Master Bedroom is running the Android TV software and also it runs a app called DISH known as package com.dish.atv.launcher, the version for mines is P15403 2026100917 so it's probably the same version as the Hopper Plus software version with the date of October 9, 2026, not sure what the 17 means except maybe revision 17?

This explains it better than I can. Sorry, had to take all the ads out.

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As I understand it, the android is just the display signal from the hopper+. I can disconnect the H+ and plug the hdmi directly into the master hopper3.
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As I understand it, the android is just the display signal from the hopper+. I can disconnect the H+ and plug the hdmi directly into the master hopper3.
It is not just a display signal as explained above. When you have the Hopper+ connected, it uses Android TV for pretty much everything except for the satellite signal which is why it uses the DISH app for the standard Hopper 3 functions. But that should not matter because in your case, CasinoH3 is the Hopper 3 with the EHD which is what you call the naughty one based on the dates you mentioned and Master Bedroom which has the Hopper Plus connected to the Hopper 3 that does not have the problem. So one way to test the theory is disconnect the Hopper Plus from that Hopper 3 and then use the EHD's connected to CasinoH3 currently to see if the same issue exists. That way you will know if the problem is there without a Hopper Plus connected or if CasinoH3 is just a bad hopper to begin with.

Normally when you disconnect the Hopper Plus, it will be 30 minutes or more before you can use the Hopper 3 again.

What you want to do is:
hold the POWER button in, not the red reset button, for about 45 seconds or so while disconnecting the power to the Plus and moving the HDMI cable and it will reboot to the normal Hopper only immediately.
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bookworm370
It'll only see two EHDs at a time.
Yes, I have only two online at a time.
One comes online, the other one consistently will not come online
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Yes, I have only two online at a time.
One comes online; the other consistently won't. Also, when I connect the EHD, the USB Detected status light on the EHD itself changes from Red to Green. But the Hopper (713) does not start the EHD read process. The light changes to indicate that the EHD has detected a valid USB cable, but the Hopper does not recognize it.
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No idea what improvements might be involved.
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bookworm370
Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
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I got the 713 update yesterday.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
My wife mentioned that her remote is acting strange this morning. She hit FF and it went to 15x FF.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
This has been an ongoing issue. A fix is coming, probably in the next software version.