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Dee_Ann

Last reply Jan 23, 2020 · posted in General Home Theater Equipment

Samsung TV blocking OTA channels

Hi,

My dad bought a new Samsung 46in 'smart' TV about a month ago.

I helped him set it up as he's not exceptionally tech savvy with things that don't have vacuum tubes.

So the very, very first thing I did after connecting it to power and his outside aerial, was to do a channel scan. My dad has a large antenna that's about 24 feet in the air and it's on a rotor.
In the days before everything went digital my folks used to watch Houston channels all the time. His house is about 100 miles east of Houston. After the digital switch over they lost Houston completely. From what I understand the digital transmitters are much weaker than the old analog ones.

Also they would watch channels from Lake Charles, Louisiana which is 50 miles to the east. The tower is about 20 miles east of Lake Charles so it's about a 70 mile jump.

Anyway, on the old TV they had no problem with getting KPLC 7.1 and 7.2 from Lake Charles.

And when I did the initial channel scan the new TV found the channels and added them to the list and they came in great. That night my dad watched TV and everything was fine.

The next day I went back and set up the internet stuff. It has WIFI built into it for the so called 'smart' features. I whitelisted the TV on his WIFI then it connected up and downloaded updates and stuff which took awhile.

I checked a few of it's apps and I found them to be slow, sluggish and clunky. It also was lacking in a lot of options. I was not impressed.

So after that I told my dad to forget about the extra junk and just use it like a normal TV like he always did with the old TV.

A few days later I talked to him and he tells me that the TV was now missing the KPLC channels.
We thought maybe it was the weather which was a little rainy here and there but I didn't think it was enough to knock out the channels like that.

I told him to give it a few days for the weather to get better and try again.

Still nothing. So I helped him on the phone do a new channel scan. Nothing. Now it wouldn't see KPLC at all. He was annoyed but it wasn't the end of the world.

So a few weeks passed and he was watching other channels but not KPLC anymore.
Today he came and picked me up to go with him on some errands and we were talking about the TV again. So I pulled out my phone and I saw some people mentioning that Samsung TV's are under the Big Brother thumb of Samsung and possibly the FCC and corporate profiteers. Another term came to mind. DMA.

So after we ran errands we went by my dad's house and I disabled the internet features completely.
I did a manual configuration of the WIFI addresses and I put 127.0.0.1 in on EVERYTHING.
Now it can not connect to anything. It couldn't even connect to a neighbor's WIFI in a move of desperation.

After I disabled the internet I did a new scan for OTA channels and BOOM! KPLC was magically back again!

So what I realized is that the TV was using my dad's IP address to determine it's physical address/location and 'phoned home' with that information. I'm sure it also sent a list of channels it found along with it's geolocation info and someone at Samsung (actually an automated system) told it that KPLC is not allowed in my dad's area because it's in another state and outside of his DMA and thus blacklisted the channels.

After crippling the TV it couldn't figure out where it is and thus can not blacklist channels.

In my opinion this is a cr*p thing for them to do, they have no legal right to restrict you from watching an OTA channel that you can pick up with your own personal and legal aerial.

My dad did not agree to these restrictions and never would agree to them. Nothing at all was ever mentioned on the box or in the manual or any other paperwork that such a thing would ever come to pass.

And now the only way to watch the channels he's legally entitled to watch, he has to cripple the snot out of the TV so that ALL of it's 'smart' features no longer work.

Certainly this can't be legal for them to do this. Right?
Does anyone know of a way to disable this geographic channel blocking mal-feature without having to cripple the entire TV?

Thanks..

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midwest_gal

Jan 20, 2020

Dee_Ann said:
Hi,

My dad bought a new Samsung 46in 'smart' TV about a month ago.

I helped him set it up as he's not exceptionally tech savvy with things that don't have vacuum tubes.

So the very, very first thing I did after connecting it to power and his outside aerial, was to do a channel scan. My dad has a large antenna that's about 24 feet in the air and it's on a rotor.
In the days before everything went digital my folks used to watch Houston channels all the time. His house is about 100 miles east of Houston. After the digital switch over they lost Houston completely. From what I understand the digital transmitters are much weaker than the old analog ones.

Also they would watch channels from Lake Charles, Louisiana which is 50 miles to the east. The tower is about 20 miles east of Lake Charles so it's about a 70 mile jump.

Anyway, on the old TV they had no problem with getting KPLC 7.1 and 7.2 from Lake Charles.

And when I did the initial channel scan the new TV found the channels and added them to the list and they came in great. That night my dad watched TV and everything was fine.

The next day I went back and set up the internet stuff. It has WIFI built into it for the so called 'smart' features. I whitelisted the TV on his WIFI then it connected up and downloaded updates and stuff which took awhile.

I checked a few of it's apps and I found them to be slow, sluggish and clunky. It also was lacking in a lot of options. I was not impressed.

So after that I told my dad to forget about the extra junk and just use it like a normal TV like he always did with the old TV.

A few days later I talked to him and he tells me that the TV was now missing the KPLC channels.
We thought maybe it was the weather which was a little rainy here and there but I didn't think it was enough to knock out the channels like that.

I told him to give it a few days for the weather to get better and try again.

Still nothing. So I helped him on the phone do a new channel scan. Nothing. Now it wouldn't see KPLC at all. He was annoyed but it wasn't the end of the world.

So a few weeks passed and he was watching other channels but not KPLC anymore.
Today he came and picked me up to go with him on some errands and we were talking about the TV again. So I pulled out my phone and I saw some people mentioning that Samsung TV's are under the Big Brother thumb of Samsung and possibly the FCC and corporate profiteers. Another term came to mind. DMA.

So after we ran errands we went by my dad's house and I disabled the internet features completely.
I did a manual configuration of the WIFI addresses and I put 127.0.0.1 in on EVERYTHING.
Now it can not connect to anything. It couldn't even connect to a neighbor's WIFI in a move of desperation.

After I disabled the internet I did a new scan for OTA channels and BOOM! KPLC was magically back again!

So what I realized is that the TV was using my dad's IP address to determine it's physical address/location and 'phoned home' with that information. I'm sure it also sent a list of channels it found along with it's geolocation info and someone at Samsung (actually an automated system) told it that KPLC is not allowed in my dad's area because it's in another state and outside of his DMA and thus blacklisted the channels.

After crippling the TV it couldn't figure out where it is and thus can not blacklist channels.

In my opinion this is a cr*p thing for them to do, they have no legal right to restrict you from watching an OTA channel that you can pick up with your own personal and legal aerial.

My dad did not agree to these restrictions and never would agree to them. Nothing at all was ever mentioned on the box or in the manual or any other paperwork that such a thing would ever come to pass.

And now the only way to watch the channels he's legally entitled to watch, he has to cripple the snot out of the TV so that ALL of it's 'smart' features no longer work.

Certainly this can't be legal for them to do this. Right?
Does anyone know of a way to disable this geographic channel blocking mal-feature without having to cripple the entire TV?

Thanks..

midwest_gal

Jan 20, 2020

I'm thinking you maybe right, we just purchased a new 65" Samsung 4K Smart TV and after setting it all up and scanning for channels, none of the our local oeta channels we were previously able to get on our old Samsung TV (approx. 3-4 yrs old) were NOT the list of channels? Yes, we have an HDTV antenna hooked up to the new TV and it worked great on the old Samsung TV. We have tried multiple times to scan again and chose both options air and cable (even though we have no cable, thought it might worth a shot) but still only the same 11 channels.

We aren't sure what to do but enjoy our local OETA news and shows and can't see why Samsung would want to block any of our local channels here in OK?
FYI we are regretting purchasing a new smart tv, ya they have a lot of options but the remote is not user friendly and your searching all over it trying to find where you want to be...too much can sometimes be just too much.

arlo

Jan 20, 2020

Wow that's some good interesting reading.
I'd register in the Samsung support forum and ask these questions.....but granulate them.
For what reason would any modern TV not be able to get the same channels that one a few years old will?
And if a tuner like an HDHomerun can get those channels no problem, why would your TV not?
Both are connected to the Internet.

Of course most TV's that grab updates over the 'net...once firmware is "updated", can't be downgraded to previous versions.
I know my Sony smart TV went through several firmware updates. And tons of owners griped on their forum. So many that they created a new one. Wondering why?

In the interim. You could return the tv if it's not too late. I notice that Wifi is never as good as an RJ connection.
And perhaps divorcing the TV from the 'net and getting something like an Amazon product would be a wise solution.
I know your dad is much like mine was. It was difficult to teach him how to switch inputs to watch DVD's.
Thank the lord for CEC. One button presses and a cheat cheat for the old gent!

I'm a bit confused of your mentioning using loopback (127.0.0.1) for EVERYTHING?? What up with that, and why?
And what is "everything"??
And also. W/O me doing a ton of searching is there a concept, law, reasoning, sushi and saki inspired reasoning of nuking local OTA channels when connected to the 'net? That blows me away.

harshness

Jan 23, 2020

If the TV is a "dumb" model, it may not support AVC compression that may be required in some cases.

907TECH

Jan 23, 2020

Digital transmitters are not much weaker than analog, some are 1,000,000 watts. In fact digital transmission is about 30% more efficient than analog. There is quite a difference in sensitivity between various TV's, outboard tuners and receivers. And no, there is no geographic blocking going on with OTA. By definition if you are receiving a station OTA, you are in the service area. Since the transition from analog, many stations switched bands to UHF mostly, many of the older antenna did not have UHF, many did. Here is a guess, the old antenna may have a problem or does not have good UHF coverage, and when you turn on Wifi, RF interference is taking the OTA out. It's not big brother a lot of wild assumptions being made. Edit, I didn't see how old the original post was.

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N5XZS

Last reply 1 minute ago · posted in Over the Air Television By RabbitEars.Info

New low power station with CP has been granted. "Albuquerque "

New low power station has been granted by the FCC and the new call leter is K33OB-D on RF ch. 33.

Will run at 15 KW ERP, this one runs from the Westside same location as KWPL-LD a HC2 owned station.

It's going to be aimed at eastern part of Albuquerque, so it's tightly focused beam pattern.

This new station is owned by Digital Network and what kind of programmings is unkown at this time.

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Mr Tony

Today at 12:28 PM

N5XZS said:
This new station is owned by Digital Network and what kind of programmings is unkown at this time

probably the same programming they have been putting on their other owned stations.
The 'get after it media' stations

Get After It Media

www.getafteritmedia.com

Like Heartland, Retro, rev'n, Action etc

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N5XZS

Today at 12:49 PM

Hope they got good subchannels encoder going there...

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comfortably_numb

25 minutes ago

Mr Tony said:
probably the same programming they have been putting on their other owned stations.
The 'get after it media' stations

Get After It Media

www.getafteritmedia.com

Like Heartland, Retro, rev'n, Action etc

We already have those diginets here.

N5XZS

8 minutes ago

Yeah, there are some diginets like Heartland, Retro, The Family Channel diginetworks that we already have here in this market and we don't need duplicates, but bring the new diginets on like the Rev'n, Karate Acton movies, different kind of music videos on the new station. :hatsoff2

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comfortably_numb

6 minutes ago

N5XZS said:
Yeah, there are some diginets like Heartland, Retro, The Family Channel diginetworks that we already have here in this market and we don't need duplicates, but bring the new diginets like Revn, Karate Acton movies, different kind of music videos on the new station.

I watch MovieSphere Gold channel a lot. Many recent movies on that digitnet

N5XZS

1 minute ago

Yes that's a good channel MovieSphere, only thing is the missing CC on it.

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Song Name Game Part 3!

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What's For Lunch?

We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so...

Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
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add to greased pan
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Green turkey enchilada casserole, ate one bowl, had pinto beans & taco meat side… Tea
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Pork shoulder, refried beans, cheddar and chopped green chile burrito with a pint of pale ale.

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TRG said:
Pork shoulder, refried beans, cheddar and chopped green chile burrito with a pint of pale ale.

Its nice being able to have a pint with lunch during the week or whenever. I've been enjoying the retired life.

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EchoStar 25 @110W March 9/10 - 2026.

EchoStar has filed with FCC for license and launch of the EchoStar 25 satellite at the nominal 110W slot.

------"At the nominal 110° W.L. orbital location, EchoStar is licensed to operate over 29 of the available 32 DBS channels (specifically channels 1-27, 29,and 31).3 Currently, EchoStar provides service over these channels from the 110° W.L. cluster utilizing the EchoStar 10, EchoStar 11 (in inclined orbit), and EchoStar 23 satellites; and from the 119° W.L. cluster utilizing the EchoStar 14 and EchoStar 15 satellites. EchoStar anticipates that EchoStar 25 will be ready for launch as early as the first quarter of 2026. EchoStar anticipates that EchoStar 25, a spot-beam satellite, will take over delivery of certain programming services from EchoStar 10 and 14. After launch and in-orbit testing ("IOT"),4EchoStar 25 will proceed directly to 110.0° ± 0.05° W.L. Once EchoStar 25 is placed into operation, EchoStar 10 will initially remain at 110.2° W.L. serving as an in-orbit spare and may ultimately be relocated subject to all appropriate Commission authorizations. EchoStar 14 will remain at the nominal 119° W.L. orbital location and serve as an in-orbit spare once EchoStar 25 begins service." -----

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zippyfrog

Jun 3, 2026

I can tell the new satellite is active... When I go to the point dish menu, here in Chicago, 110 TP 27, which is a Spotbeam, for me with the old satellite was in the signal strength 50's-60's, is now just fluttering between 16-18.

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dishrich

Saturday at 4:21 PM

zippyfrog said:
When I go to the point dish menu, here in Chicago, 110 TP 27, which is a Spotbeam, for me with the old satellite was in the signal strength 50's-60's, is now just fluttering between 16-18.

Any chance you (or somebody else w/Chicago locals) could check & see where all the Chicago locals moved to, please...

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zippyfrog

Sunday at 7:26 AM

Actually, I can't seem to add the locals back to my account to check right now - when I go to add it and I submit the changes, it shows that I have added 1802 local channels (the whole country) and nothing happens. Something must be wrong with their website.

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RJT79

Yesterday at 10:25 PM

dishrich said:
Any chance you (or somebody else w/Chicago locals) could check & see where all the Chicago locals moved to, please...

I just happened to find out that I won White Sox tickets for tomorrow nights game June 10th. Yahoo! I just picked up my tickets around 8 P.M. local time and it is kind of late planning I know but I am leaving here in just a few and heading up to Peotone to stay the night tonight in a hotel and be there for tomorrow night as well. Its 9:21 P.M. Central Time now. I am hoping to beat the possible thunderstorms and fog early this morning up there and the weather there tomorrow as well. I oh so hope they play and no severe weather! Anyways, I just unhooked my Wally receiver and my DISH Playmaker and I am taking it with me. Peotone is in the Chicago Locals market and with me having a DISH Outdoors account I can change it when I get up there. I will have a check when I get there and I can post and let you know. I can put the antenna on top of the roof of the vehicle and run a 12 ft. coaxial cable running through the trunk into the vehicle. I have a DC to AC converter in the vehicle and can bring my Cloner Alliance ViewPRO to use as a the screen. I may even watch a little TV throughout the evening as well and maybe a little WGN as well. I miss WGN. I use to watch the Cubs, White Sox, and Bulls games on WGN and listen to the news and Tom Skilling a bunch. I hated it in December of 2014 when it became a standard cable network only. This will be only my 2nd time since they became a standard cable network and now defunct and rebranded as NewsNation that I actually get to see WGN again. The only other time was in 2016 up in Chicago as well and they were a standard cable network here then and not available locally. I now need to get going. I will let you know later.

RJ T.
From Illinois

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RJT79

Today at 3:07 AM

RJT79 said:
I just happened to find out that I won White Sox tickets for tomorrow nights game June 10th. Yahoo! I just picked up my tickets around 8 P.M. local time and it is kind of late planning I know but I am leaving here in just a few and heading up to Peotone to stay the night tonight in a hotel and be there for tomorrow night as well. Its 9:21 P.M. Central Time now. I am hoping to beat the possible thunderstorms and fog early this morning up there and the weather there tomorrow as well. I oh so hope they play and no severe weather! Anyways, I just unhooked my Wally receiver and my DISH Playmaker and I am taking it with me. Peotone is in the Chicago Locals market and with me having a DISH Outdoors account I can change it when I get up there. I will have a check when I get there and I can post and let you know. I can put the antenna on top of the roof of the vehicle and run a 12 ft. coaxial cable running through the trunk into the vehicle. I have a DC to AC converter in the vehicle and can bring my Cloner Alliance ViewPRO to use as a the screen. I may even watch a little TV throughout the evening as well and maybe a little WGN as well. I miss WGN. I use to watch the Cubs, White Sox, and Bulls games on WGN and listen to the news and Tom Skilling a bunch. I hated it in December of 2014 when it became a standard cable network only. This will be only my 2nd time since they became a standard cable network and now defunct and rebranded as NewsNation that I actually get to see WGN again. The only other time was in 2016 up in Chicago as well and they were a standard cable network here then and not available locally. I now need to get going. I will let you know later.

RJ T.
From Illinois

Update Wednesday June 10, 2026 @ 1:07 A.M. CDT.

Well I made it safely to Peotone, IL and got checked in. Sitting in the vehicle right now and everything is hooked up and ran and locals changed through the App.

I only have 2 words. "Very Interesting"

This is going to take awhile to post all of this and get all of this right so I am going to be looking up some info as I type.

Chicago has tons of channels! 18! To be exact all in HD.

So let's start.

002-00 WBBM (CBS) SAT: 110 SB: 12
Now playing: (Comics Unleashed With Byron Allen)

005-00 WMAQ (NBC) SAT: 110 SB: 12
Now playing: (NBC Nightly News With Tom Llamas)

007-00 WLS (ABC) SAT: 110 SB: 12
Now playing: (Live with Kelly and Mark)

009-00 WGN (CW) SAT: 110 SB: 12
Now playing: (The Goldbergs)

011-00 WTTW (PBS) SAT: 110 SB: 26
Now Playing: (Nature)

023-00 WWME (METV) SAT: 110 SB: 26
Now Playing: (Mannix)

026-00 WCIU (IND) SAT: 110 SB: 26
Shows The U - Now playing: (The Perfect Line)

Time change to 1:30 AM

032-00 WFLD (FOX) SAT: 110 SB: 12
Now Playing: (Sherri)

038-00 WCPX (ION) SAT: 110 SB: 26
Now Playing: (Chicago Fire)

044-00 WSNS (TELM) SAT: 110 SB: 26
Telemundo Channel speaking Spanish.
Now Playing: (Programa pagado)

048-00 WMEU (IND) SAT: 110 SB: 26
Now Playing: (Comedy Classics)

050-00 WPWR (IND) SAT: 110 SB: 26
Infomercial right now playing: (Ideal Prostrate+ Provides Safe)

056-00 WYIN (PBS). SAT: 110 SB: 26
Shows Lakeshore PBS - Now Playing: (Amanapour and Company)

059-00 WTVK (SHOP LC) SAT: 110 SB: 26
It is the Shop Liquidation Channel. All I get is a black background but was able to obtain satellite and spotbeam information - Shows playing in guide (which isn't) Spectacular Night Owl Jewelry Deals

060-00 WXFT (UNIMAS) SAT: 110 SB: 26
UNIMAS Channel speaking Spanish - Now Playing: (El Chavo)

061-00 WPVN (IND) SAT: 110 SB: 26
Shows WiN TV on the screen with Korean people and Korean Language - Now Playing: (WIN BNC)

062-00 WJXS (IND) SAT: 110 SB: 12
Shows wjys The Way - Now Playing; (Paid Proograming) but a church service is showing instead.

And finally…

And a time change to 2:00 AM

066-00 WGBO (UNIV) SAT: 110 SB: 26
Univision Channel speaking Spanish - Now Playing: (Programa pagado)

Now done!

Wow! About an hour's worth!

So it appears they changed as well to the 110 Satellite and using 2 Spotbeams 12 & 26.

Got to head up to my room and get some sleep. I will be here until late afternoon tomorrow before I head up to the game and will be back here after the game tommorow night and head back home Thursday morning.

Take care everyone and have a good night and a good Wednesday and Thursday. Probably won't be back on until Thursday.

RJ T.
From Illinois

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zippyfrog

Today at 8:05 AM

This is really interesting. Thanks for posting the Chicago locals - I still can't add them to my account for some reason.

But what I find even more interesting is that you are reporting that some of the Chicago locals are on 110, TP 12. However, right now some of the national sports channels for the out of market sports channels are on 110, TP 12 as well. MLB Network Alternate, for example, is currently on 110, TP 12. And to my knowledge, the same transponder cannot be both a national ConUS transponder as well as a local spotbeam. I wonder if having both satellites active at the same time is causing some coding issue or something like that - for my receiver, it is as if it is checking one satellite, times out, then checks the second satellite for the signal strength.

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RJT79

Today at 3:54 PM

zippyfrog said:
This is really interesting. Thanks for posting the Chicago locals - I still can't add them to my account for some reason.

But what I find even more interesting is that you are reporting that some of the Chicago locals are on 110, TP 12. However, right now some of the national sports channels for the out of market sports channels are on 110, TP 12 as well. MLB Network Alternate, for example, is currently on 110, TP 12. And to my knowledge, the same transponder cannot be both a national ConUS transponder as well as a local spotbeam. I wonder if having both satellites active at the same time is causing some coding issue or something like that - for my receiver, it is as if it is checking one satellite, times out, then checks the second satellite for the signal strength.

No Problem! Glad I went and could help out but however I chickened out from the game tonight and I am back home. Didn't like the weather report I was seeing. Everyone in the hotel was talking about the severe storms. 75+ mph winds, golf ball size hail, and tornadoes done it in for me. You stay safe! I guess it isn't going to be very good and its suppose to hit between 3 and 6 PM. I gave away my tickets as I don't need damage to the vehicle plus with the weather like that not going and driving in Chicago that often it probably wouldn't be good driving when it is storming. I do think I made the wise choice.

I however am thinking about going somewhere over the weekend because this hot and humid air that were having will bring in relief after the cold front Thursday night and good weather is expected through the weekend. I don't know where I will head I am thinking State Park wise somewhere camping in a tent and brining my AC battery supply backup that works 36 hours on a single charge and can be charged in the vehicle and bringing the Wally, the antenna, and my Cloner Alliance ViewPro to use as a screen. Just to see what I can all get and to get away awhile. Where ever I go It will be out of market so I could get you their locals and Satellites and Spotbeams if you would like.

Just hoping we avoid the severe weather at my location tomorrow. It doesn't look good on that part but once it goes through excellent and more pleasant weather ahead.

And on what you said. Yes that could be an issue getting the locals activated that you are having problems with. 2 Transponders causing trouble one national and one spotbeam. Your receiver may not know how to handle it. Seems as if they likely will move those other sports channels to another satellite and/or spotbeam. More than likely the issue with my MLB Extra Innings as well. All these changes coming at once and they are trying to figure where to put everything and probably don't know where to put it all. I am sure it has the tech advanced people at DISH working overtime. Just wish they would hurry up and get it done.

Do you have an estimated date of completion by any chance?

RJ T.
From Illinois

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Today at 3:52 PM · posted in Ham Radio 2.0

Ham Radio FT6000 vs HT Real World Antenna Test

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Last reply Today at 3:27 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

ESPN News Packages?

Is ESPN News changing packages? I see on the lineup card that ESPN News is only available in Top 200 and above now. Is this accurate? Did anyone with Top 120 or 120+ lose ESPN News?

https://my.dish.com/cms-files/channelcards/2026/0512/Channel_Lineup.pdf

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Willh699

May 14, 2026

maybe but i still have it for now, most likely this will take effect in June.

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Cold Irons

May 17, 2026

...and on the "Science" channel you can learn all about ghosts & monsters.

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ClarkGable

May 18, 2026

I think ESPN News shows "The Ocho" on weekends. Slippery Stairs, Pop-A-Shot, Dodge Ball, Roof Ball, Wisconsin Auctioneers Championship, and even competitive Microsoft Excel spreadsheet races are among the offerings.

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Yespage

May 18, 2026

Cold Irons said:
...and on the "Science" channel you can learn all about ghosts & monsters.

Watch Lethal Weapon on Sundance!
America's dumbest and richest Housewives on Bravo! (funny, I never watched Bravo! WAAAAAAAY back in the day because I didn't like watching ballet. Then I never watched it because I didn't like trash television.)
See My Seven Ox Wives on The Learning Channel.
Watch The Fakumentury on Mermaids on The Science Channel.

It really is too bad this didn't happen to channels like TBN.
Up next on TBN at 8 PM, Speaking with the Lord Satan.

Cartoon Network and TCM are the only niche channels that survived the dumbening of niche channels. Of course, there are probably people that are old enough to drive, vote, drink (?) that were never alive when TLC was The Learning Channel.

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telstar_1

May 18, 2026

But even the cartoon ch. has been struggling of late

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zippyfrog

Today at 2:36 PM

Willh699 said:
maybe but i still have it for now, most likely this will take effect in June.

Curious if you still have ESPN News on 142 right now with AT120 or AT120+. As of today, the Dish website no longer lists it on the public website for that package.

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Willh699

Today at 3:27 PM

it's gone from that package,i no longer get the channel.

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