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Sorry Charlie I went OTA and then ended up with Charter for $48 less per month without the price increase.

KazooGuy said:

Sorry Charlie I went OTA and then ended up with Charter for $48 less per month without the price increase.

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Check back in a year...


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Deadlocked said:

Check back in a year...


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Are you possibly referring to a promotional price special that is coming to the end of its year guarantee? If so, fear not, the savings I am reaping are not from any promotion. I am paying their normal price, I had Charter's Phone and Internet for my home and all I did is add their television leg of the triad, where I learned that FoxSports Detroit also offers a second RNS, called FoxSports Detroit Plus, which is NOT offered by DISH and BOTH RSN are in HD 24/7 365 and MANY other channels that are offered in HD that DISH does not. So I thank you for you concern, but you really need to Google SWITCHED DIGITAL SWITCHING.

KazooGuy said:

Are you possibly referring to a promotional price special that is coming to the end of its year guarantee? If so, fear not, the savings I am reaping are not from any promotion. I am paying their normal price, I had Charter's Phone and Internet for my home and all I did is add their television leg of the triad, where I learned that FoxSports Detroit also offers a second RNS, called FoxSports Detroit Plus, which is NOT offered by DISH and BOTH RSN are in HD 24/7 365 and MANY other channels that are offered in HD that DISH does not. So I thank you for you concern, but you really need to Google SWITCHED DIGITAL SWITCHING.

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So you're happy about getting the same channel twice? Detroit is just an overflow feed for when two games are on and you DO get it on Dish where there is a live game there.

Try again please.


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KazooGuy said:

Sorry Charlie I went OTA and then ended up with Charter for $48 less per month without the price increase.

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I can go to Time Warner or Uverse and save money with their bundle, heck, they'll even let me go to the International Space Station and press all the buttons! But after a year or so, the rates will blow the roof off the house.

Dish / Directv are the two leaders in the "not as expensive" tv entertainment race.

KazooGuy said:

Are you possibly referring to a promotional price special that is coming to the end of its year guarantee? If so, fear not, the savings I am reaping are not from any promotion. I am paying their normal price, I had Charter's Phone and Internet for my home and all I did is add their television leg of the triad, where I learned that FoxSports Detroit also offers a second RNS, called FoxSports Detroit Plus, which is NOT offered by DISH and BOTH RSN are in HD 24/7 365 and MANY other channels that are offered in HD that DISH does not.

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Many?

Yespage said:

I can go to Time Warner or Uverse and save money with their bundle, heck, they'll even let me go to the International Space Station and press all the buttons! But after a year or so, the rates will blow the roof off the house.

Dish / Directv are the two leaders in the "not as expensive" tv entertainment race.

Many?

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Yes, Many has in more you know like EVERY premium channel that is offered. Fo

Yespage said:

I can go to Time Warner or Uverse and save money with their bundle, heck, they'll even let me go to the International Space Station and press all the buttons! But after a year or so, the rates will blow the roof off the house.

Dish / Directv are the two leaders in the "not as expensive" tv entertainment race.

Many?

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Yes, MANY...24 more than I had with DISH and several are NOT even carried by DISH! With the advent of Switched Digital Video, cable companies no longer have to push every analog channel down the same wire and that leave them to only send the channel the receiver is tuned to. The picture quality is just as good as I had with my 922 and I do not lose my signal every time it drizzled. Basically, if there is a channel that is offered in HD, my cable company has it. Don't get me wrong I was happy with my DISH for 11 years, until they moved me to the Eastern Arc and I instantly began having problems with my signal levels and even with two tech visits, it could not get corrected. So I said bye to DISH and had no idea that my local cable company had stepped up so much with their programming and PQ. My friend dumped DIRECT and went to the cable and from his experience and my own eyes, I went with them as well. I am not saying EVERY cable company has stepped up their product, but mine has and I am more than happy with them. I am also ecstatic that I am saving $48 per month and soon to be another $5.

KazooGuy said:

Yes, MANY...24 more than I had with DISH and several are NOT even carried by DISH!

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Several?

With the advent of Switched Digital Video, cable companies no longer have to push every analog channel down the same wire and that leave them to only send the channel the receiver is tuned to. The picture quality is just as good as I had with my 922 and I do not lose my signal every time it drizzled. Basically, if there is a channel that is offered in HD, my cable company has it. Don't get me wrong I was happy with my DISH for 11 years, until they moved me to the Eastern Arc and I instantly began having problems with my signal levels and even with two tech visits, it could not get corrected. So I said bye to DISH and had no idea that my local cable company had stepped up so much with their programming and PQ. My friend dumped DIRECT and went to the cable and from his experience and my own eyes, I went with them as well. I am not saying EVERY cable company has stepped up their product, but mine has and I am more than happy with them. I am also ecstatic that I am saving $48 per month and soon to be another $5.

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I'm glad for you, though I do wonder how apples to apples that $48 a month savings is.

Yespage said:

Several?
I'm glad for you, though I do wonder how apples to apples that $48 a month savings is.

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I'll be happy if it was $60-70 monthly savings.

Yespage said:

Several?
I'm glad for you, though I do wonder how apples to apples that $48 a month savings is.

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Well, I can tell you exactly. I used to have a 922 that cost me $10 per month DVR fee and I had the AT-200 package, which was $69.99 at the time. With taxes and fees that made my monthly bill $86.93. Currently I am paying $2.00 a month for an M-Card as I use my TIVO as my receiver and I am currently paying $36 per month for my local cable company's television extended basic service, which carries everything I am interested in watching. As I said, I am bundled with all three and I do not know if a person just wanted the television leg of the triad what the cost would be. But, I know I spend more time streaming content, but I found I did miss certain channels when I pulled the plug on DISH. For me, right now, this is a cheaper and more flexible to view what I am interested in. I might also ad I had the TIVO that I used OTA and did very little recording of OTA with DISH, in fact I begged to be placed back on the Western Arc because of the problems I was having with the signal levels on EA and the techs would not do it.

Okay these are the HD channels carried by my cable company. You can make your own decisions. Just remember with them going to all digital a cable company has unlimited bandwidth.

Fox Sports 1 and 2
Golf Channel
ABC Family
Nickelodeon
Cartoon Network
Disney, XD and Jr.
CNN and HLN
Weather Channel
Fox News and Business
Fox Sports Detroit and Fox Sports Detroit Plus.....They have different programming and is not an overflow channel as has been reported
C-Span, 2 and 3
ABC, CBS, CW, NBC, Fox, PBS, MyTv locals
TBN
Inspiration
EWTN
MLB Network
NFL Network and RedZone
CNBC
MSNBC
Fox Movie Network
TCM
WGN-America
HSN, QVC, SHOP
FX and FXX
TruTV
USA Network
TBS and TNT
Travel Channel
National Geo and Nat Geo Wild
GSN
Esquire
TVLand
Hallmark and Hallmark Movie Channels
E!
Lifetime and Lifetime Movie
Oxygen
Bravo
TV Guide Network
Food Net
HGTV
ESPN, ESPN2, ESPN News ESPNU, ESPN Goal Line, SEC
BTN
NBC Sports Net
CBS Sports Net
Syfy
A&E
History and 2
TLC
Discovery
FYI
Animal Planet
Velocity
Spike
AMC
MTV and 2
VH1
CMT
BET
IndiePlex, RetroPlex and MoviePlex
Bloomberg
OWN
Discovery Family
Nicktoons
Sprout
Nick Jr
Destination America
Cooking
DIY
WE
Science Channel
American Heroes Channel
BBC America
BBC World News
IFC
Reelz
Sundance
AXS TV
FUSION
FamilyNet
Daystar
Pivot
RFD TV
GAC
UP
Willow
FUSE
Tennis
MAV TV
WFN
Sportsman Channel
Outdoors Channel
NHL
NBA
BIG 10 Net
Smithsonian
Universal
NDNet Movies
Palladia
One World Sports
HBO east and west
HBO2 east and west
HBO Signature east and west
HBO Family east and west
HBO Comedy east and west
HBO Zone east and west
Cinemax e and w
MoreMAX e and w
ActionMAX e and w
ThrilleMAX e and w
5 StarMAX
MovieMAX
OuterMAX
SHOWTIME e and w and 2 e and w
SHOWTIME Showcase e & w
SHOWTIME Beyond
SHOWTIME Extreme e & w
SHOWTIME Women
SHOWTIME Next
The Movie Channel e & w
The Movie Channel Xtra e & w
Starz e & w
Straz Black
Starz Comedy
Starz Cinema
Starz Kids and Family
Starz Edge
Encore e & w
Encore Action
Encore Classics
Encore Suspense
Encore Black
EPICS e & w
Playboy

186 by my count.

KazooGuy said:

Well, I can tell you exactly. I used to have a 922 that cost me $10 per month DVR fee and I had the AT-200 package, which was $69.99 at the time. With taxes and fees that made my monthly bill $86.93. Currently I am paying $2.00 a month for an M-Card as I use my TIVO as my receiver and I am currently paying $36 per month for my local cable company's television extended basic service, which carries everything I am interested in watching. As I said, I am bundled with all three and I do not know if a person just wanted the television leg of the triad what the cost would be. But, I know I spend more time streaming content, but I found I did miss certain channels when I pulled the plug on DISH. For me, right now, this is a cheaper and more flexible to view what I am interested in. I might also ad I had the TIVO that I used OTA and did very little recording of OTA with DISH, in fact I begged to be placed back on the Western Arc because of the problems I was having with the signal levels on EA and the techs would not do it.

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So not quite (even close to?) apples to apples then. However, I'm glad you are getting what you want for a better price.

Deadlocked said:

So you're happy about getting the same channel twice? Detroit is just an overflow feed for when two games are on and you DO get it on Dish where there is a live game there.

Try again please.


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Strange I see separate and different programming on the two channels 99.9% of the time. Why not stop being a DISH apologist. I cannot help it if I have found a cheaper and BETTER alternative for my viewing needs. YOU TRY AGAIN!