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I'm very mad at Verizon. Took a 'loyalty' discount of $10/month for 12 months which incurred a 1 year obligation. So far, so good. But then later I found it came with a $175 ETF! Nice math on Verizon's part and kind of explains why in the same conversations about Verizon they get praised and cussed by the same people.
All this wasn't a big deal until I decided to turn on internet sharing on my phone while on a trip. Wouldn't turn on, said it was unavailable.
I'm on a single line plan whose web page showed at the time that internet sharing was part of the deal. That page, of course, is now gone replaced by a very uninformative page which tells you almost nothing, and the price is higher now.
So I call VZW to get internet sharing turned on. Told no dice, not part of deal. Much verbiage commenced but in the end no internet sharing. Switching to 'more' plan was only option which was $30/month higher for literally the same service.
In the meantime I had forgotten about the ETF and contract and decided to pay off the EDGE contract phone and switch to prepaid. $45/month ulimited talk/text, 500mb data and you buy Bridge Data that expires every 3 months @$10/1Gb or $20/3Gb. That really fills the bill nicely.
Unfortunately that pesky ETF is still there and wants to be paid if I make the switch. I'll probably do that because of all the options to get internet sharing, it costs the least by doing that.
But I'm damned sure not happy about it!
All this wasn't a big deal until I decided to turn on internet sharing on my phone while on a trip. Wouldn't turn on, said it was unavailable.
I'm on a single line plan whose web page showed at the time that internet sharing was part of the deal. That page, of course, is now gone replaced by a very uninformative page which tells you almost nothing, and the price is higher now.So I call VZW to get internet sharing turned on. Told no dice, not part of deal. Much verbiage commenced but in the end no internet sharing. Switching to 'more' plan was only option which was $30/month higher for literally the same service.
In the meantime I had forgotten about the ETF and contract and decided to pay off the EDGE contract phone and switch to prepaid. $45/month ulimited talk/text, 500mb data and you buy Bridge Data that expires every 3 months @$10/1Gb or $20/3Gb. That really fills the bill nicely.
Unfortunately that pesky ETF is still there and wants to be paid if I make the switch. I'll probably do that because of all the options to get internet sharing, it costs the least by doing that.
But I'm damned sure not happy about it!
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OK, the rest of the story... 
I was on the $60/month single line plan they started in August. At the time the web page showed mobile hotspot as part of it. But that webpage is long gone and mobile hotspot never worked with it. VZW denied it was part of the deal at any point as has been noted in many forums that discuss VZW. So I called VZW, chatted with them and discussed in the forum, and the answer was consistent that the only way to get mobile hotspot was shifting the a 'More' plan that is about $30/month higher.
So being the kind of guy I am, I emailed the CEO about it. They contacted me and told me the current $75/month single-line plan did have mobile hotspot and I agreed to switch to that plan. They also gave me some other incentives because of the hassle and misinformation I got along the way. Now with the compromise, I'm much happier. In the end VZW came through, but it should have been dead simple. The support people SHOULD know their product, but they really don't. And the corporate store reps are even less knowledgeable.
If you go to the current page about the single line plan for $75/month, even now it doesn't show mobile hotspot as part of it. Hell, that page is so much marketing fluff, with real info being pretty scarce.
Bottom line with Verizon is that they want you on a 'More' plan and either on contract or paying for an Edge plan. They only recently even had links to the Single-Line plans.
Take a look at plans. If you bring your own phone and don't go prepaid, there is no discount at all on any plan.
When my obligation to them is done, I'll switch to VZW's prepaid plan because it is the cheapest way to get it all. Here's rate and and example:
$45/month - unlimited talk/text, 500Mb data included.
$5 - 500Mb data which expires in a month
$10 - 1Gb data which expires in 3 months
$20 - 3Gb data which expires in 3 months.
Single line plan w/2Gb = $75/month
Prepaid line w/500Mb = $45/month
3Gb per month = $20
Total = $65 per month if you buy 3Gb every month.
Note that I've been told that the prepaid is $45/month total. No additional 'because we can' fees added. Makes it even cheaper in comparison!
I was on the $60/month single line plan they started in August. At the time the web page showed mobile hotspot as part of it. But that webpage is long gone and mobile hotspot never worked with it. VZW denied it was part of the deal at any point as has been noted in many forums that discuss VZW. So I called VZW, chatted with them and discussed in the forum, and the answer was consistent that the only way to get mobile hotspot was shifting the a 'More' plan that is about $30/month higher.
So being the kind of guy I am, I emailed the CEO about it. They contacted me and told me the current $75/month single-line plan did have mobile hotspot and I agreed to switch to that plan. They also gave me some other incentives because of the hassle and misinformation I got along the way. Now with the compromise, I'm much happier. In the end VZW came through, but it should have been dead simple. The support people SHOULD know their product, but they really don't. And the corporate store reps are even less knowledgeable.
If you go to the current page about the single line plan for $75/month, even now it doesn't show mobile hotspot as part of it. Hell, that page is so much marketing fluff, with real info being pretty scarce.
Bottom line with Verizon is that they want you on a 'More' plan and either on contract or paying for an Edge plan. They only recently even had links to the Single-Line plans.
Take a look at plans. If you bring your own phone and don't go prepaid, there is no discount at all on any plan.
When my obligation to them is done, I'll switch to VZW's prepaid plan because it is the cheapest way to get it all. Here's rate and and example:
$45/month - unlimited talk/text, 500Mb data included.
$5 - 500Mb data which expires in a month
$10 - 1Gb data which expires in 3 months
$20 - 3Gb data which expires in 3 months.
Single line plan w/2Gb = $75/month
Prepaid line w/500Mb = $45/month
3Gb per month = $20
Total = $65 per month if you buy 3Gb every month.
Note that I've been told that the prepaid is $45/month total. No additional 'because we can' fees added. Makes it even cheaper in comparison!
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Marques Brownlee
Time for another AWESOME video from Marques Brownlee!
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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scwlR0QHGOk
Direct YouTube Link - The NEW Tesla Roadster: My Honest Reaction
The official MKBHD Website!
The MKBHD Store
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iJustine
Time for another AWESOME video from iJustine!
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View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/m44iKsdN1-Q
Direct YouTube Link - NVIDIA RTX Spark launch party!!!
The official iJustine Website's Website
Buy her book!
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For quite a while now, people with a VIP211k have been losing their recordings on their activated external HDDs... even when there's nothing physically wrong with HDD. I believe this is an intentional and underhanded tactic that Dish is pulling in an attempt to force users away from the VIP211k.
They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.
Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.
On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.
It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.
I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.
They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.
Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.
On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.
It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.
I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.
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Has anyone subscribed to NBA League Pass for 2026-27 and try to link their account to NBA.com to stream League Pass? I purchased it for 2026-27, and when I linked, I got a message saying success, but then I receive an error that my linked subscription does not include the preseason games for NBA League Pass. Is that how it has always been? I know satellite doesn't have the preseason games on the NBA League Pass channels, but I thought that I was able to stream the preseason once I linked my account on NBA.com?
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Nah, you just don't understand how ignore works, which is why you made your own NFL thread thinking there wasn't one
For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. 
WTF… …What the Foxbat!Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat.
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wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming youWTF… …What the Foxbat!
I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you
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OMG to freaking funny
You're no fun.
I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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Apple has finally released their Apple TV 4K with built-in Siri and a microphone so it can respond to your queries even if you don't have the remote. It also increases in price, to $299. I had been planning on updating my current Apple TV 4K streamers, but that's $600 for the two of them, and that's a pass at this point.
At $299, it had better come with 256 GB of Storage, Gigabit (or better) Ethernet, the latest HDMI tech and standards, and one year of free Apple One. But it probably won't…
At $299, it had better come with 256 GB of Storage, Gigabit (or better) Ethernet, the latest HDMI tech and standards, and one year of free Apple One. But it probably won't…
Apple TV 4K
Apple TV 4K. New Siri AI and hands-free control. Stunning picture and immersive HomePod surround sound. Works with your Apple and smart home devices.
www.apple.com
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. apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
they all do that anyways.. ever notice your cell phone slows down when you come up for an upgrade..
. apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
You should have looked in the APP STORE instead.
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Several Dish offers showed up today in my account. Once you choose one the rest are removed. Offers were Showtime, Starz, AMC and others.
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Not for me, mines has no mention of how long aka the offer period and the Terms and conditions the $0.00 is good for. All I see is one can lose $5.00 if you decide to remove it before day 31 after you add it to the account.
You have a different offer that is free for a shorter timeframe which is different than the one that I and bnewt saw without defining the promotion period as I sent the question to DISH Care via Facebook Messenger and this is the response I got back 20 minutes ago.