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Last reply Apr 3, 2015 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

switching from dish to charter tv

hello has anyone had any experience with charter tv and switching to there tv and internet from dish and centrylink i currently have the hopper with hte super joey and two joey set up as well as centlyink for internet at idtap or pair bonded at 20 megs and 2 megs ups i am just trying to wiegh my options i am out of contract with dish now so i am just exploring my options right now thanks
ps i am typign from a phone please excuse pseeling errors etc

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Tampa8

Apr 1, 2015

Like most cable it probably will depend on your particular location. Your timing of this post is great, last night at my Friend's house I was able to see both Charter and Direct TV side by side as he now has both. (The complex includes basic Charter) I have DISH and as my eyes have told me even before the comparison I now know where I am in Eastern Ct. the picture from Charter is not as good as DISH or Direct. I'm including that he is not a single user and perhaps the set up is degrading the picture. We all agree his picture is the same as my other friends who have Charter at home, which is to say not as good as when they see my DISH picture or his Direct TV picture. For lack of a better word it is blurry, like it needs to be focused a little better. That's the best description I can give. On it's own with no comparison perhaps it looks good but as soon as you see DISH or Direct there is a difference.

That said, I must say their internet seems to always have at the very least the minimum speed advertised and most often the full speed. My only complaint is the same as having any cable service, it goes out somewhat often, from auto accidents to trees down etc.. They also do run decent intro rates and they seem to be honest when you talk to them. Their website like most Cable isn't as clear as to what you get and what it costs as the DISH or Direct websites. When I call to get my discount every few months for Internet they ask about me getting their TV service. When I ask questions to their credit I get direct answers.
As mentioned after the intro rates at least here they are quite alot more expensive than DISH for me. Direct is $180 more a year, Charter would be somewhat the same. (I get a discount already by calling them every few months to renew it, a little hassle but it's a savings of $19 a month)

Also just make sure you are actually off contract with DISH since you mentioned you have a Super Joey.

KazooGuy

Apr 1, 2015

Tampa8 said:
Like most cable it probably will depend on your particular location. Your timing of this post is great, last night at my Friend's house I was able to see both Charter and Direct TV side by side as he now has both. (The complex includes basic Charter) I have DISH and as my eyes have told me even before the comparison I now know where I am in Eastern Ct. the picture from Charter is not as good as DISH or Direct. I'm including that he is not a single user and perhaps the set up is degrading the picture. We all agree his picture is the same as my other friends who have Charter at home, which is to say not as good as when they see my DISH picture or his Direct TV picture. For lack of a better word it is blurry, like it needs to be focused a little better. That's the best description I can give. On it's own with no comparison perhaps it looks good but as soon as you see DISH or Direct there is a difference.

That said, I must say their internet seems to always have at the very least the minimum speed advertised and most often the full speed. My only complaint is the same as having any cable service, it goes out somewhat often, from auto accidents to trees down etc.. They also do run decent intro rates and they seem to be honest when you talk to them. Their website like most Cable isn't as clear as to what you get and what it costs as the DISH or Direct websites. When I call to get my discount every few months for Internet they ask about me getting their TV service. When I ask questions to their credit I get direct answers.
As mentioned after the intro rates at least here they are quite alot more expensive than DISH for me. Direct is $180 more a year, Charter would be somewhat the same. (I get a discount already by calling them every few months to renew it, a little hassle but it's a savings of $19 a month)

Also just make sure you are actually off contract with DISH since you mentioned you have a Super Joey.

Using my TIVO and with Charter here having made the swap to Switched Digital Video, I can honestly say I feel that Charter's PQ is better, but then I am using my TIVO box and not Charter's. Not to mention Charter offers more HD channels than either sat company.

old corps

Apr 1, 2015

KazooGuy said:
Using my TIVO and with Charter here having made the swap to Switched Digital Video, I can honestly say I feel that Charter's PQ is better, but then I am using my TIVO box and not Charter's. Not to mention Charter offers more HD channels than either sat company.

Thanks for the post. Can you comment on their on demand? Trying to watch supposedly HD programs from Dish on Demand is too painful to watch.

Ed

king3pj

Apr 1, 2015

old corps said:
Thanks for the post. Can you comment on their on demand? Trying to watch supposedly HD programs from Dish on Demand is too painful to watch.

Ed

I know I'm not the person you asked but I can tell you that on demand doesn't work with a Tivo. It's no big deal to me because I have plenty of tuners and storage space to just record what I want to watch. If you try to sign up with Charter and a Tivo they will try to push you into getting one of their boxes specifically for on demand. In my opinion all the other benefits to using a Tivo easily outweigh the lack of on demand support though.

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KazooGuy

Apr 2, 2015

old corps said:
Thanks for the post. Can you comment on their on demand? Trying to watch supposedly HD programs from Dish on Demand is too painful to watch.

Ed

As has been stated, if you using a TIVO you will not have any access to on demand content. I personally do not care about that and never would watch it if I could. With the TIVO and a Netflix subscription I find plenty enough to keep me busy watching what interests me. I also should have said that I put a TIVO mini in the bedroom and this handles my whole house issues. You can use the mini to watch a live program using one of the TIVO's tuners or anything that is already recorded on the TIVO without tying up a tuner. Just plug it into my network and it works fine. I really have had no issues with Charter since I made the switch. Never worry about nightly reboots or weather related outages has been a nice plus. An outage because of a downed pole from an accident, but Charter had it rerouted and back up within an hour. It is in their contract with the municipality they have only so many minutes they can be down since they provide phone service as well.

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DishSubLA

Apr 2, 2015

king3pj said:
I know I'm not the person you asked but I can tell you that on demand doesn't work with a Tivo. It's no big deal to me because I have plenty of tuners and storage space to just record what I want to watch. If you try to sign up with Charter and a Tivo they will try to push you into getting one of their boxes specifically for on demand. In my opinion all the other benefits to using a Tivo easily outweigh the lack of on demand support though.

mdavej said:
Three years ago, I would have agreed with this 100%. Charter was indeed the worst company in the country. I had my share of issues with them in the past as well. But today, Charter is a very different company. Satisfaction numbers, quality and service are way up. Lineup is the best in the country at prices significantly lower than satellite. I get 80 more HD channels than I did with satellite.

And Tivo is NOT the only option. My Windows Media Center whole home DVR system (serving 6 TVs) costs me a whopping $2/month versus about $50 for the same thing from satellite or Tivo. Overall, I'm paying about half what I did with satellite and am getting far more content and functionality. Unless Charter does a complete 180 back to the way it did business a few years ago, I don't see myself ever going back to satellite.

I'm glad things improved for you at Charter. In our area I still know people who are PO'd and although Charter has slight improvement taking all its service areas into account, there are still extremely recent posts for all parts of the country ranting on Charter in very high number and with more vitriol, but most for its TV service, and it's Internet not being reliable in those areas (reliable in my area), but recent happy folks now with 50Mbps (from 30Mbps) at no additional charge.

In theory, I agree with the WMC solution (I use it for some OTA). The problem is that WMC is for the tech savvy. Further, many people are just principally opposed to having a PC on all the time as their primary DVR. It's just the way they think. Microsoft, while at first trying to kill WMC, has backed off a bit and decided to take the TiVo approach and slowly kill WMC with a thousand cuts. WMC is not making MS any money, and they want it dead. In fact, last I heard, Windows 10 will require one to purchase an "upgrade" for WMC. Also, I can't remember exactly, but I believe there was a recent change imposed upon WMC and tuners where a lot of users were PO'd because they lost some functionality. Perhaps you know of of it?

Further, WMC does not easily support remote viewing (now we are talking software to re-code and then PLEX, etc.? more things for the average Joe to track down, acquire and learn to use) nor transferring recordings to mobile devices is as intuitive as it is for TiVo, Dish, or DirecTV, the fastest growing way to watch content, including one's own DVR recordings or LIVE TV channels from a cable co or sat box. There are some other devices one could add (and additional software like My Logos), but some require connections and/or cards that are NOT on most PC's (PC's not designed for media when purchased) that require one to open the PC and switch out or add some cards. Joe Blow and Betsy Wetsy haven't a CLUE how to proceed, and would be forced to pay BIG bucks to someone like Geek Squad to do for them, after buying the hardware. There are other "accessories" one needs to get WMC going great, and Joe Sixpack aint even ready to imagine the work. In other words, unless one buys a new Media PC (and even then, not necessarily good to go on day one), one is having to "BUILD" a WMC experience. It requires an immersion in the whole WMC/Home Server universe with all sorts of required tech knowledge and all sorts of pieces of software from several different companies an sources all to make a whole, and Ceton products are fine (are the Echo's still constantly buggy, crashing, re-booting,or otherwise flaky?), but cost more money.

Yes, if one has the tech savvy and TIME to commit to it, WMC is the way to go and get high satisfaction, and I agree that WMC is far LESS expensive than the TiVo model, but WMC requires too much trouble for the average consumer, and this is why WMC NEVER become popular, even though it really is pretty great once it is up and running. People can easily comprehend and even install a BOX that connected directly to a TV and has all the software and hardware installed ready to go with built-in streaming and ready to transfer your recordings to your mobile device: a finished product as opposed to some "kit" where the consumer has to put things together like a model of a ship. All they do is connect the traditional DVR box to a TV and plug the power in, and after very simple process, they are UP and going with a DVR. This EASE of install and understanding even trumps the "on-line" new DVR solutions like Tablo because Tablo, et al. depends upon a home network and mobile devices and connected devices like Roku, NOT directly a TV. The Tablo etc. experience is an abstraction to most people, especially if they were born before 1990 or haven't the affluence while growing up to even have a decent computer to become tech savvy, and puts them a bit out of their depth compared to that "box" they just connect to their TV AND can get support. With WMC, you are your own support person.

My point is not to say WMC is bad, but to point out to EVERY WMC/HTPC enthusiast who suggests WMC as if it were "plug and play" sound simple, is that it is FAR from simple, and this is why it never took off. WMC is for the tech savvy who have the time to make it all work and keep up with changes.

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DishSubLA

Apr 2, 2015

KazooGuy said:
As has been stated, if you using a TIVO you will not have any access to on demand content. I personally do not care about that and never would watch it if I could. With the TIVO and a Netflix subscription I find plenty enough to keep me busy watching what interests me. I also should have said that I put a TIVO mini in the bedroom and this handles my whole house issues. You can use the mini to watch a live program using one of the TIVO's tuners or anything that is already recorded on the TIVO without tying up a tuner. Just plug it into my network and it works fine. I really have had no issues with Charter since I made the switch. Never worry about nightly reboots or weather related outages has been a nice plus. An outage because of a downed pole from an accident, but Charter had it rerouted and back up within an hour. It is in their contract with the municipality they have only so many minutes they can be down since they provide phone service as well.

The only time not having On-demand may be a problem is for special events like boxing, etc.

old corps

Apr 2, 2015

DishSubLA said:
Bu

I'm glad things improved for you at Charter. In our area I still know people who are PO'd and although Charter has slight improvement taking all its service areas into account, there are still extremely recent posts for all parts of the country ranting on Charter in very high number and with more vitriol, but most for its TV service, and it's Internet not being reliable in those areas (reliable in my area), but recent happy folks now with 50Mbps (from 30Mbps) at no additional charge.

In theory, I agree with the WMC solution (I use it for some OTA). The problem is that WMC is for the tech savvy. Further, many people are just principally opposed to having a PC on all the time as their primary DVR. It's just the way they think. Microsoft, while at first trying to kill WMC, has backed off a bit and decided to take the TiVo approach and slowly kill WMC with a thousand cuts. WMC is not making MS any money, and they want it dead. In fact, last I heard, Windows 10 will require one to purchase an "upgrade" for WMC. Also, I can't remember exactly, but I believe there was a recent change imposed upon WMC and tuners where a lot of users were PO'd because they lost some functionality. Perhaps you know of of it?

Further, WMC does not easily support remote viewing (now we are talking software to re-code and then PLEX, etc.? more things for the average Joe to track down, acquire and learn to use) nor transferring recordings to mobile devices is as intuitive as it is for TiVo, Dish, or DirecTV, the fastest growing way to watch content, including one's own DVR recordings or LIVE TV channels from a cable co or sat box. There are some other devices one could add (and additional software like My Logos), but some require connections and/or cards that are NOT on most PC's (PC's not designed for media when purchased) that require one to open the PC and switch out or add some cards. Joe Blow and Betsy Wetsy haven't a CLUE how to proceed, and would be forced to pay BIG bucks to someone like Geek Squad to do for them, after buying the hardware. There are other "accessories" one needs to get WMC going great, and Joe Sixpack aint even ready to imagine the work. In other words, unless one buys a new Media PC (and even then, not necessarily good to go on day one), one is having to "BUILD" a WMC experience. It requires an immersion in the whole WMC/Home Server universe with all sorts of required tech knowledge and all sorts of pieces of software from several different companies an sources all to make a whole, and Ceton products are fine (are the Echo's still constantly buggy, crashing, re-booting,or otherwise flaky?), but cost more money.

Yes, if one has the tech savvy and TIME to commit to it, WMC is the way to go and get high satisfaction, and I agree that WMC is far LESS expensive than the TiVo model, but WMC requires too much trouble for the average consumer, and this is why WMC NEVER become popular, even though it really is pretty great once it is up and running. People can easily comprehend and even install a BOX that connected directly to a TV and has all the software and hardware installed ready to go with built-in streaming and ready to transfer your recordings to your mobile device: a finished product as opposed to some "kit" where the consumer has to put things together like a model of a ship. All they do is connect the traditional DVR box to a TV and plug the power in, and after very simple process, they are UP and going with a DVR. This EASE of install and understanding even trumps the "on-line" new DVR solutions like Tablo because Tablo, et al. depends upon a home network and mobile devices and connected devices like Roku, NOT directly a TV. The Tablo etc. experience is an abstraction to most people, especially if they were born before 1990 or haven't the affluence while growing up to even have a decent computer to become tech savvy, and puts them a bit out of their depth compared to that "box" they just connect to their TV AND can get support. With WMC, you are your own support person.

My point is not to say WMC is bad, but to point out to EVERY WMC/HTPC enthusiast who suggests WMC as if it were "plug and play" sound simple, is that it is FAR from simple, and this is why it never took off. WMC is for the tech savvy who have the time to make it all work and keep up with changes.

Joe Sixpack

mdavej

Apr 3, 2015

DishSubLA said:
Bu

I'm glad things improved for you at Charter. In our area I still know people who are PO'd and although Charter has slight improvement taking all its service areas into account, there are still extremely recent posts for all parts of the country ranting on Charter in very high number and with more vitriol, but most for its TV service, and it's Internet not being reliable in those areas (reliable in my area), but recent happy folks now with 50Mbps (from 30Mbps) at no additional charge.

In theory, I agree with the WMC solution (I use it for some OTA). The problem is that WMC is for the tech savvy. Further, many people are just principally opposed to having a PC on all the time as their primary DVR. It's just the way they think. Microsoft, while at first trying to kill WMC, has backed off a bit and decided to take the TiVo approach and slowly kill WMC with a thousand cuts. WMC is not making MS any money, and they want it dead. In fact, last I heard, Windows 10 will require one to purchase an "upgrade" for WMC. Also, I can't remember exactly, but I believe there was a recent change imposed upon WMC and tuners where a lot of users were PO'd because they lost some functionality. Perhaps you know of of it?

Further, WMC does not easily support remote viewing (now we are talking software to re-code and then PLEX, etc.? more things for the average Joe to track down, acquire and learn to use) nor transferring recordings to mobile devices is as intuitive as it is for TiVo, Dish, or DirecTV, the fastest growing way to watch content, including one's own DVR recordings or LIVE TV channels from a cable co or sat box. There are some other devices one could add (and additional software like My Logos), but some require connections and/or cards that are NOT on most PC's (PC's not designed for media when purchased) that require one to open the PC and switch out or add some cards. Joe Blow and Betsy Wetsy haven't a CLUE how to proceed, and would be forced to pay BIG bucks to someone like Geek Squad to do for them, after buying the hardware. There are other "accessories" one needs to get WMC going great, and Joe Sixpack aint even ready to imagine the work. In other words, unless one buys a new Media PC (and even then, not necessarily good to go on day one), one is having to "BUILD" a WMC experience. It requires an immersion in the whole WMC/Home Server universe with all sorts of required tech knowledge and all sorts of pieces of software from several different companies an sources all to make a whole, and Ceton products are fine (are the Echo's still constantly buggy, crashing, re-booting,or otherwise flaky?), but cost more money.

Yes, if one has the tech savvy and TIME to commit to it, WMC is the way to go and get high satisfaction, and I agree that WMC is far LESS expensive than the TiVo model, but WMC requires too much trouble for the average consumer, and this is why WMC NEVER become popular, even though it really is pretty great once it is up and running. People can easily comprehend and even install a BOX that connected directly to a TV and has all the software and hardware installed ready to go with built-in streaming and ready to transfer your recordings to your mobile device: a finished product as opposed to some "kit" where the consumer has to put things together like a model of a ship. All they do is connect the traditional DVR box to a TV and plug the power in, and after very simple process, they are UP and going with a DVR. This EASE of install and understanding even trumps the "on-line" new DVR solutions like Tablo because Tablo, et al. depends upon a home network and mobile devices and connected devices like Roku, NOT directly a TV. The Tablo etc. experience is an abstraction to most people, especially if they were born before 1990 or haven't the affluence while growing up to even have a decent computer to become tech savvy, and puts them a bit out of their depth compared to that "box" they just connect to their TV AND can get support. With WMC, you are your own support person.

My point is not to say WMC is bad, but to point out to EVERY WMC/HTPC enthusiast who suggests WMC as if it were "plug and play" sound simple, is that it is FAR from simple, and this is why it never took off. WMC is for the tech savvy who have the time to make it all work and keep up with changes.

Well said. I wish Ceton had not abandoned its Q product. That would have given us a WMC box as simple to set up and use as a Tivo, giving cable card and WMC a much needed shot in the arm. Alas, it was not meant to be. At least we got half of the equation, the Echo (which is still buggy and flaky).

You can make a PC that is more energy efficient than Tivo and doesn't have to be on all the time. Mine runs 10-20W when on and less than 1W when sleeping (which is most of the time). But I agree it takes knowledge, skill and time to set up, maintain and troubleshoot. This is why I have a WMC system myself but would never in a million years build one for my parents.

I mainly see WMC versus Tivo the same as any DIY versus contracted project. Joe Six Pack could probably install a new faucet in his bathroom and save a lot of money and end up with a faucet that works just as well as one installed by a plumber. He'd also have to acquire the knowledge and skill to do the job and troubleshoot if/when something goes wrong. But most people are just going to hire a plumber.

If you have some tech savvy and are the DIY type and looking for ways to save some money, I still recommend WMC over Tivo. That said, you can get a used Tivo Premiere with lifetime on CL or ebay for about $300 and get the best of both worlds, ease of use and installation plus a low cost approaching that of WMC.

dare2be

Apr 3, 2015

I'm rather tech-savvy but the issue for me in setting up a WMC box is time. I just don't have or want to spend the time on it.

harshness

Apr 3, 2015

dare2be said:
I'm rather tech-savvy but the issue for me in setting up a WMC box is time. I just don't have or want to spend the time on it.

That and Micro$oft is becoming increasingly vague about WMC support.

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DirecTV’s Subscribers Number

Thanks to Fitch Ratings ( who gives the ratings on Credit and debt, as approved by the SEC, so they have accurate numbers) we have the totals.

DIRECTV's video subscriber base is the third-largest traditional multi-channel video programming distributor (MVPD) in the U.S. with about 8.2 million subscribers at the end of 1Q26.

The last time it was reported, it was 8.8M at the end of 2Q25, so only a 600,000 loss for 3 quarters, which is a major improvement, since for many years before that, it was losing 500,000 a quarter, 2 Million a year.

It is now losing less than Dish/Sling combined, I believe the Genre Packs are helping to retain and get subscribers.

https://www.fitchratings.com/research/corporate-finance/fitch-rates-directv-proposed-senior-secured-debt-offering-bb-rr2-11-05-2026

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raoul5788

May 19, 2026

They have one less as of May 15th. I just couldn't justify almost $150 a month any more. I went to Fubo. Edit: And I've been a Directv customer for 30 years!

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b4pjoe

May 19, 2026

raoul5788 said:
They have one less as of May 15th. I just couldn't justify almost $150 a month any more. I went to Fubo.

Fubo would be a non starter for me. Missing channels:

NBCUniversal Channels: NBC local affiliates, USA Network, Bravo, CNBC, MSNBC, E!, Syfy, Telemundo, and the Golf Channel.
NBC Sports: Regional sports networks like NBC Sports Bay Area, Boston, California, and Philadelphia are also off the air.
Warner Bros. Discovery Channels: TBS, TNT, TruTV, CNN, Discovery Channel, TLC, HGTV, Food Network, and Animal Planet.
A&E Networks: A&E, History, Lifetime, and Vice.
AMC Networks: AMC, IFC, SundanceTV, and WE tv

Plus most of its live TV channels and sports broadcasts are currently delivered in 720p.

Jimbo

May 19, 2026

b4pjoe said:
Fubo would be a non starter for me. Missing channels:

NBCUniversal Channels: NBC local affiliates, USA Network, Bravo, CNBC, MSNBC, E!, Syfy, Telemundo, and the Golf Channel.

NBC Sports: Regional sports networks like NBC Sports Bay Area, Boston, California, and Philadelphia are also off the air.

Warner Bros. Discovery Channels: TBS, TNT, TruTV, CNN, Discovery Channel, TLC, HGTV, Food Network, and Animal Planet.

A&E Networks: A&E, History, Lifetime, and Vice.

AMC Networks: AMC, IFC, SundanceTV, and WE tv

Plus most of its live TV channels and sports broadcasts are currently delivered in 720p.

YouTube TV

raoul5788

May 19, 2026

b4pjoe said:
Fubo would be a non starter for me. Missing channels:

NBCUniversal Channels: NBC local affiliates, USA Network, Bravo, CNBC, MSNBC, E!, Syfy, Telemundo, and the Golf Channel.

NBC Sports: Regional sports networks like NBC Sports Bay Area, Boston, California, and Philadelphia are also off the air.

Warner Bros. Discovery Channels: TBS, TNT, TruTV, CNN, Discovery Channel, TLC, HGTV, Food Network, and Animal Planet.

A&E Networks: A&E, History, Lifetime, and Vice.

AMC Networks: AMC, IFC, SundanceTV, and WE tv

Plus most of its live TV channels and sports broadcasts are currently delivered in 720p.

Understandable. It's always a choice of price vs channels. The $60/month difference made my choice easier.

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Arctic_fox

Today at 12:41 AM

Jimbo said:
YouTube TV

YTTV don't carry the Regional sports channels

dishrich

Today at 1:20 AM

Arctic_fox said:
YTTV don't carry the Regional sports channels

It does still carry the NBC Sports branded RSN's, but obviously in those limited markets...

Jimbo

33 minutes ago

Arctic_fox said:
YTTV don't carry the Regional sports channels

RSN's ... are they still Alive ?

Unless your looking for the Non Major sports,,they are pretty pointless.

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Song Name Game Part 3!

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Last reply 40 minutes ago · posted in The Sports Section

FIFA World Cup of Horrors

Mexico takes on South Africa to open the World Cup Final (it is called the Final... this just isn't the World Cup Final... Final). The tournament has been plagued with rife malfeasance as FIFA has been committing all sorts of fraud with the ticket sales. Hotel rooms have gone unfilled as the prices to attend a game and stay somewhere are through the roof. I swear this is impacting Mansfield, OH hotel rates which are higher than average for the Indycar race. And there is a broadening VAR presence which will ruin things as nothing worse now when scoring a goal and knowing you can't quite celebrate yet as they check to see if a player was offside by a pixel a half-hour ago.

The Group Stage used to mean something, but now 32 of the 48... yeah, 48 teams are going to the Knockout Round. Getting into the Knockout Round used to be a big deal, even for the US. But now... if you don't lose all of your group stage games, you get to move on. Oi! And this is avoiding all the political stuff!

I have never been so unexcited for a World Cup before. Every game used to matter. But FIFA be darned if they don't try to squeeze out every dime they can out of the players, refs, and fans.

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I have no interest in watching it this year.

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Yespage

40 minutes ago

Mexico resolvingly man handle South Africa. Three red cards. I think the second one was a bit soft, more like a very cynical yellow.

The US play Paraguay today, which to me is the critical game for this group stage. Paraguay is currently 40ish in the FIFA rankings. Their friendlies since qualification have been mixed, but they come out of South America, so, they can't be ignored.

The US team is ranked 17th. I'm uncertain why. They are 2-0-3 in their last five games.

A win for the US would be critical as it would be a message that they kind of belong in the tournament. We'll be finding out if Pochettino was indeed the right manager for this squad. He has done well with higher end mid-majors.

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Last & Next Movie Watched

Since the Reds have there thread we should too!

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osu1991

Saturday at 9:48 PM

Rooster Cogburn.

Keep forgetting the free movies on youtube are ad free with my premium subscription.

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dfergie

Sunday at 8:42 AM

osu1991 said:
Rooster Cogburn.

Keep forgetting the free movies on youtube are ad free with my premium subscription.

There are some really good movies on youtube.
Saving Private Ryan 4k, Dolby Atmos...

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harshness

Tuesday at 9:58 AM

dfergie said:
Saving Private Ryan 4k, Dolby Atmos...

These are severely limited. Getting better than stereo audio is improving, but still has a long way to go.

dfergie

Tuesday at 10:07 AM

harshness said:
These are severely limited. Getting better than stereo audio is improving, but still has a long way to go.

I went with my 4k disc after checking out that version.

osu1991

Wednesday at 9:56 PM

View: https://youtu.be/I68627xyDPA?is=gUZB0Yv_08pE0DR3

Tonight revisiting one of my favorites. Ranks up there with Star Wars, Raiders of the Lost Ark and Hunt For Red October.

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dfergie

Wednesday at 10:45 PM

Watching Monterey Pop, been awhile, had the DVD, but probably lost in the fire 10.5 years ago. HBOmax

"MysteryMan"

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teachtom

Last reply Today at 6:19 AM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Problem when I switch from Bonus View channels back to regular Dish channels

Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks

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HipKat

Yesterday at 5:07 PM

teachtom said:
Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks

First off, great TV. I'm torn between the 77C5 or the 77G5.
It sounds like the handshake between the Receiver and the TV is having a problem. Are you using the free cable that came with the Joey or a higher speed HDMI cable?? That's the f irst place I'd look

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RJT79

Yesterday at 5:17 PM

teachtom said:
Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks

First off, The analog to digital switch, also known as the digital television transition, is the process of converting older analog television broadcasting technology to digital broadcasting. It's used through coaxial cable for the an antenna during the mandatory switch from Analog to Digital on June 12, 2009. You either had to get a converter for your analog (Tube TV) or use a converter box that has the analog or digital tuner or an HDTV which your is and has the tuner built in. Your TV is HD and using an HDMI Cable and nothing is connected by coaxial cable so this wouldn't apply.

In my theory it probably means a new TV. I had a TV go out on my switching between the Smart Screen from the HDMI inputs before because they went faulty. Sometimes electrical surges can cause this. If you have an older home or rent an older home or apartment sometimes the electrical outlets are not grounded and these days HDTV's need a ground which can cause them to malfunction and go bad quicker. Never plug it directly in an outlet. It will damage the TV.

Hope I could be of some assistance.

RJ T.
From Illinois

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teachtom

Yesterday at 7:33 PM

RJT79 said:
First off, The analog to digital switch, also known as the digital television transition, is the process of converting older analog television broadcasting technology to digital broadcasting. It's used through coaxial cable for the an antenna during the mandatory switch from Analog to Digital on June 12, 2009. You either had to get a converter for your analog (Tube TV) or use a converter box that has the analog or digital tuner or an HDTV which your is and has the tuner built in. Your TV is HD and using an HDMI Cable and nothing is connected by coaxial cable so this wouldn't apply.

In my theory it probably means a new TV. I had a TV go out on my switching between the Smart Screen from the HDMI inputs before because they went faulty. Sometimes electrical surges can cause this. If you have an older home or rent an older home or apartment sometimes the electrical outlets are not grounded and these days HDTV's need a ground which can cause them to malfunction and go bad quicker. Never plug it directly in an outlet. It will damage the TV.

Hope I could be of some assistance.

RJ T.
From Illinois

Thank you for the information. I do keep the TV plugged into a surge protector, but we have had pretty strong thunderstorms/lightning in the last month so that have contributed to my problem.The house was built in 2009 so everything seems to be grounded correctly. We have had a power surge also. Seems like no one fixes anything any more, so just get a new one or live with the problem. Thanks

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teachtom

Yesterday at 7:39 PM

HipKat said:
First off, great TV. I'm torn between the 77C5 or the 77G5.
It sounds like the handshake between the Receiver and the TV is having a problem. Are you using the free cable that came with the Joey or a higher speed HDMI cable?? That's the f irst place I'd look

I think the HDMI cable is good, i used one of my own from my 4K atmos system, i'll switch it with another just to check. Also I have a bid in at Greentoe for 77" G5. Thanks

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HipKat

Yesterday at 8:17 PM

teachtom said:
I think the HDMI cable is good, i used one of my own from my 4K atmos system, i'll switch it with another just to check. Also I have a bid in at Greentoe for 77" G5. Thanks

I hope that works. I'm waiting til Black Friday sales

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Darrell S

Yesterday at 9:21 PM

I've had this problem with my older Sony TV. It happens when I just punch in a regular channel number. The only way it works right for me is to push guide and select a regular channel from the guide screen.

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teachtom

Today at 6:19 AM

Darrell S said:
I've had this problem with my older Sony TV. It happens when I just punch in a regular channel number. The only way it works right for me is to push guide and select a regular channel from the guide screen.

Thanks, I'll try that

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so2344

Last reply Today at 12:36 AM · posted in DIRECTV General Forum

Came back to DirectTV Satellite - Gemini question

Recently came back to DirectTV Satellite service and have two boxes, Gemini and a main HR54.

DirecTV is charging me two "TV access fees" of $10 each, but can only watch TV on the one without the server. Is there anything I can do to fix this?

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FHSPSU67

Apr 25, 2026

First receiver should be free. It is for me.

b4pjoe

Apr 25, 2026

FHSPSU67 said:
First receiver should be free. It is for me.

It is for me too. Back when they merged DIRECTV via Internet and DIRECTV Stream into one service they raised the TV access fee from $7.00 to $10.00 from both streaming and satellite and they eliminated the first receiver free for new customers only. Existing customers weren't affected by the new price and the elimination of the first receiver free policy.

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so2344

May 11, 2026

b4pjoe said:
It is for me too. Back when they merged DIRECTV via Internet and DIRECTV Stream into one service they raised the TV access fee from $7.00 to $10.00 from both streaming and satellite and they eliminated the first receiver free for new customers only. Existing customers weren't affected by the new price and the elimination of the first receiver free policy.

All of this makes me want to cancel satellite again! Customer service said we were getting billed for an old receiver but the call got cut off.

Will call back and try to get this resolved. As of now, only one TV can access satellite service. Would hope they can send another Gemini to be co-located w the main HR54.

so2344

May 28, 2026

Update: after 20 mins on phone with a non North American call center agent, they are sending a tech out. The tech support couldn't understand that the HR54 was at a different TV than the Gemini.

Arctic_fox

Today at 12:36 AM

so2344 said:
Update: after 20 mins on phone with a non North American call center agent, they are sending a tech out. The tech support couldn't understand that the HR54 was at a different TV than the Gemini.

this is why we canceled support and the csr's are garbage even the american ones. it's still under the att system!!!

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zippyfrog

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Last reply Today at 12:07 AM · posted in The Phone & Tablet Zone

Purchasing New iPhone

I feel like this was discussed in another thread, but I can't find it. I have T-Mobile and my last iPhone upgrade was in 2020. I want to get a new iPhone, but what is the best way to go about doing it? Should I order the iPhone from T-Mobile directly, or should I buy from the Apple Store? I feel like there are pros/cons to each option.

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navychop

Yesterday at 11:48 PM

I know of no reason to buy from a cell company.

Buying from Apple gets an unlocked phone.

PS- New models come out in Octoberish.

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Foxbat

Today at 12:07 AM

I got a carrier-locked iPhone once, and it was a pain after they got bought by Sprint and I decided to go to T-Mobile and they dragged their feet to unlock the phone. I have been trading in my iPhones since and buying from the Apple Store since then.

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Cactus Jack

Last reply Yesterday at 11:50 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Three Tuners?

I have a Hopper with Sling. (Don't know exact model.) A couple nights ago, I went into the DVR screen, and noted that it was recording three programs. Yet I was able to view live TV (that was not one of the channels being recorded.) Did something change? In the past, it would only let me watch one of the channels being recorded, or any recording in the DVR menu. Maybe it was streaming, although there was no indication of that?

Apologies if this has been covered; I searched and didn't find anything.

Thanks.

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Cactus Jack

Jun 3, 2026

So I tested.

Started recording three non-network shows and tried to watch live TV, would not do it, because all three tuners were in use.

Started recording two non-network shows and one network show. Still would not let me tune live TV.

Started recording one non-network show and two network shows, then it allowed live TV.

I would assume then that previously I was recording two or three network shows when it allowed live TV; I honestly don't remember what it was doing, and I didn't think to check.

Thanks for replies, everyone.

PS - How does one know whether a program is streaming? Is there a way to force streaming?

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Bobby

Jun 3, 2026

Cactus Jack said:
So I tested.

Started recording three non-network shows and tried to watch live TV, would not do it, because all three tuners were in use.

Started recording two non-network shows and one network show. Still would not let me tune live TV.

Started recording one non-network show and two network shows, then it allowed live TV.

I would assume then that previously I was recording two or three network shows when it allowed live TV; I honestly don't remember what it was doing, and I didn't think to check.

Thanks for replies, everyone.

PS - How does one know whether a program is streaming? Is there a way to force streaming?

There is no way to force streaming. It is a satellite channel or streaming channel except for the rare occasion that the satellite signal fails. If that happens some, not all, channels will automatically change to streaming. You can tell if the channel is streaming by pressing guide on the remote. if it is a streaming channel the guide will clearly show it that way.

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navychop

Jun 3, 2026

Cough, cough, Hopper3!

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Cactus Jack

Jun 5, 2026

Bobby said:
There is no way to force streaming. It is a satellite channel or streaming channel except for the rare occasion that the satellite signal fails. If that happens some, not all, channels will automatically change to streaming. You can tell if the channel is streaming by pressing guide on the remote. if it is a streaming channel the guide will clearly show it that way.

Thanks, Bobby.

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Arctic_fox

Yesterday at 11:50 PM

chokes hopper 3 all the way... 16 tuners vs 3 tuners is a night and day difference. along with a faster processor. i would call in and see if they would upgrade me or you can buy a hopper 3 from solid signal.

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iJustine

Yesterday at 10:52 PM · posted in iJustine

Good Bye, Tim! Last WWDC 🥹

Time for another AWESOME video from iJustine!

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/YJjxjYvmQ8s

Direct YouTube Link - Good Bye, Tim! Last WWDC

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Buy her book!

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Smuuth

Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge

Last reply Yesterday at 10:15 PM · posted in SatelliteGuys Classifieds

WANTED DirecTV LCC

Anyone have a DirecTV Local Channel Connector that you'd like to get rid of at a reasonable price? DirecTV is currently in a contract dispute with owner of my local ABC affiliate.

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b4pjoe

Jun 2, 2026

Smuuth said:
Anyone have a DirecTV Local Channel Connector that you'd like to get rid of at a reasonable price? DirecTV is currently in a contract dispute with owner of my local ABC affiliate.

You should ask DIRECTV for one if you are affected by the dispute. I know in the past they have given them out during a dispute. Not sure if they still do that but it is free to ask.

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Smuuth

Jun 2, 2026

b4pjoe said:
You should ask DIRECTV for one if you are affected by the dispute. I know in the past they have given them out during a dispute. Not sure if they still do that but it is free to ask.

I already asked, but the CS agent said they wouldn't do it. They said the only thing they could do is $10/month bill credit.

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Jimbo

Jun 3, 2026

Smuuth said:
I already asked, but the CS agent said they wouldn't do it. They said the only thing they could do is $10/month bill credit.

Take the $10 and Call Back ...

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Smuuth

Monday at 10:22 AM

Jimbo said:
Take the $10 and Call Back ...

I did that. The response was that the LCC is not available. Escalated the issue to a tech support person with the same results.

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Jimbo

Monday at 10:39 AM

Smuuth said:
I did that. The response was that the LCC is not available. Escalated the issue to a tech support person with the same results.

Could be out of them I guess ... I'd keep trying, every 3-4 days.

If they are not out of them as them WHY you can't get one, seeing Your in a Dispute. Thats what they are for.
I would make them give you a real answer, don't let them off the hook.

I had one, and it worked well, but I believe I gave it to another D* friend (also had a AM21), I know I gave them away ...

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Smuuth

Monday at 10:44 AM

Jimbo said:
Could be out of them I guess ... I'd keep trying, every 3-4 days.

If they are not out of them as them WHY you can't get one, seeing Your in a Dispute. Thats what they are for.

According to the tech support guy, they don't have any in stock. He said I should receive an email when and if they have them. I even told him I would accept a refurbished unit.

Jimbo

Monday at 10:45 AM

Smuuth said:
According to the tech support guy, they don't have any in stock. He said I should receive an email when and if they have them. I even told him I would accept a refurbished unit.

I'm not sure your going to find any Refurbished ones as D* doesn't ask for them back.

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Smuuth

Monday at 10:48 AM

Jimbo said:
I'm not sure your going to find any Refurbished ones as D* doesn't ask for them back.

Yeah, I know. At one point, I even had 3 AM21s but gave them away when I got rid of my last HR54 and switched to the HS17.

Arctic_fox

Yesterday at 10:00 PM

Good luck they haven't made them in years. you could poke around on ebay and see if there's any on there. if not why not a tablo or a zapper box with an antenna connected to it

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Smuuth

Yesterday at 10:09 PM

Arctic_fox said:
Good luck they haven't made them in years. you could poke around on ebay and see if there's any on there. if not why not a tablo or a zapper box with an antenna connected to it

I have my OTA antenna connected to my television directly already so watching is not the issue. The reason I want the LCC is so I could record programs if I'm not at home to watch them live, especially since ABC is carrying both the NBA and NHL playoffs.
I have an active search on eBay and there is one there but he wants $180 plus shipping and I am not going to pay that.

Arctic_fox

Yesterday at 10:12 PM

Smuuth said:
I have my OTA antenna connected to my television directly already so watching is not the issue. The reason I want the LCC is so I could record programs if I'm not at home to watch them live, especially since ABC is carrying both the NBA and NHL playoffs.
I have an active search on eBay and there is one there but he wants $180 plus shipping and I am not going to pay that.

a tablo box is cheaper

Amazon.com

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Arctic_fox

Yesterday at 10:15 PM

why invest in hardware that's going to be boat anchors in a few years?

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