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Just noticed on some retailer sites that the Vip222k has been discontinued, but still some available.

Is it going to be replaced with another model?
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ChadT41
there is no reason for it to be completely discontinued(treated as legacy equipment). Can almost guarantee it has many years left on t. It will be around just as long as All VIP receivers.. That said, dish does not sale or lease them, so you would have to get them third party.
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there is no reason for it to be completely discontinued(treated as legacy equipment). Can almost guarantee it has many years left on t. It will be around just as long as All VIP receivers.. That said, dish does not sale or lease them, so you would have to get them third party.

If Dish doesn't sell or lease them, what option does the customer have for non DVR Duel-Tuner?
ChadT41
Not really looking at it as a criticism of Dish. Was just pointing out some points that may get misconstrued elsewhere. That said, I honestly do not know how DTV gets away with charging a primary receiver fee. There was one of the companies(maybe Dish, maybe not) awhile back that got a class action lawsuit, and lost. The reason was they advertised a price per minth, but it was impossible to pay that minimum fee advertised because there was a primary receiver fee. There was no option to extinguish that fee, such as a solo non DVR receiver. No matter what they chose, they had to have at least one receiver and pay that fee. So I know shortly after that Dish said screw it and no longer charges that fee. If anyone had annual billing they may remember the $9 primary receiver fee, that got credited back automatically each month(if they checked their bills). Made complete sense. Unless there is service where a receiver is unneeded to decrypt the signal, then there should not be a primary receiver fee, as it is impossible to avoid.
Scherrman
If Dish doesn't sell or lease them, what option does the customer have for non DVR Duel-Tuner?

Dish no longer wants the customer to have a non DVR dual tuner receiver. They want you to have a HD on all TVs or at least have a DVR.
harshness
Dish no longer wants the customer to have a non DVR dual tuner receiver. They want you to have a HD on all TVs or at least have a DVR.
This became obvious when they jacked the DVR Duo fee to $17, but until they charge for the first unit, it probably won't really impact most.

I can't imagine that they're pushing Hoppers for single TV installs and the ViP612 isn't really a desirable alternative to a ViP722.
TheKrell
I can't imagine that they're pushing Hoppers for single TV installs and the ViP612 isn't really a desirable alternative to a ViP722.

I have a 722 and two 612's, and you can have them when you pry them from my cold dead fingers!
navychop
I have a 722 and two 612's, and you can have them when you pry them from my cold dead fingers!
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Patience, patience.....
ChadT41
:devilish
Patience, patience.....
Come sit with us... Would you like a drink? Orange, grape, wine, or beer? Let's discuss this set up.
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Claude Greiner
I don't think dish will ever run out of 222's as long as customers are disconnecting :)
navychop
Come sit with us... Would you like a drink? Orange, grape, wine, or beer? Let's discuss this set up.
Oh, I can provide the liquid refreshments. :D

In fact, as I take a certain member to be a vodka drinker, I've been working with our good Publican to come up with a nice, sweet refreshing beverage that is SOOOO tempting......
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pattykay
Not really looking at it as a criticism of Dish. Was just pointing out some points that may get misconstrued elsewhere. That said, I honestly do not know how DTV gets away with charging a primary receiver fee. There was one of the companies(maybe Dish, maybe not) awhile back that got a class action lawsuit, and lost. The reason was they advertised a price per minth, but it was impossible to pay that minimum fee advertised because there was a primary receiver fee. There was no option to extinguish that fee, such as a solo non DVR receiver. No matter what they chose, they had to have at least one receiver and pay that fee. So I know shortly after that Dish said screw it and no longer charges that fee. If anyone had annual billing they may remember the $9 primary receiver fee, that got credited back automatically each month(if they checked their bills). Made complete sense. Unless there is service where a receiver is unneeded to decrypt the signal, then there should not be a primary receiver fee, as it is impossible to avoid.
Yeah, I thought about mentioning that $9 primary receiver fee. There used to be a message about it in the fine print on the Dish bill, under the Taxes and Fees section, explaining that the taxable $9 fee was included in the base package price. I always got a laugh out of that statement, since I had Locals Only for $9.99 per month at the time, so that would have made the entire locals package only $0.99 plus tax! The message about the taxable fee disappeared from the bill several years ago; I think it was around the time I got switched to Welcome Pack. I know that Dish no longer charges that fee, since in California the programming isn't taxable, only the fees are taxed. On my Directv bill, the tax for the primary receiver fee shows up on the bill, but there is no sales tax at all on my Dish bill. (I only have a ViP211k on my 2nd Dish account in California.)

I don't think dish will ever run out of 222's as long as customers are disconnecting :)
So why not continue making them available, in some form, to existing customers?
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Don't Do Me Like That - Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers
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I LIKE It LIKE THAT-The Dave Clark Five
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Five O'Clock World - The Vogues
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Six O'Clock News - John Prine
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It's Five O'Clock Somewhere - Alan Jackson
meStevo
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Continuing the Kilauea thread in the Pub here. Perhaps the Iceland one too next time there's remarkable activity.

Currently there is precursory lava flowing into the crater, leading to the next episode that'll probably start within the next day.

You can see the pace of inflation / deflation here. It serves as the primary predictor for when the expect the eruptions, which coincide w/ inflation turning into significant deflation and last for several hours on average with significant fountaining.



View: https://youtu.be/Uecu2seh4b4


Wife and I like the AfarTV feeds, for the discussion along w/ them, though they're otherwise just mirrors of the official USGS feeds.


View: https://youtu.be/iws3rh5vLAQ
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Oooo, quite the show now. All three vents have doming and overflows. The cone that built up around the North vent lost its upper quarter at 02:50 Oct 17 and is now spewing lava at a healthy rate. Don't know if I would say it's a fountain, but it's close.


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edit: The USGS has called the official start of Episode 55 as starting at 03:19 HST Oct 17, 2026:

Alert Level: WATCH, Color Code: ORANGE 2026-10-17 13:43:56 UTC
HVO/USGS Volcanic Activity Notice

Volcano: Kilauea (VNUM #332010)

Current Volcano Alert Level: WATCH
Current Aviation Color Code: ORANGE

Issued: Saturday, October 17, 2026, 3:43 AM HST
Source: Hawaiian Volcano Observatory
Notice Number: 2026/H488
Location: N 19 deg 25 min W 155 deg 17 min
Elevation: 4091 ft (1247 m)
Area: Hawaii

Summary: Episode 55 of the ongoing Halemaʻumaʻu eruption began at 3:19 AM HST on October 17, 2026.

Volcanic Activity:
Episode 55 of lava fountaining in Halemaʻumaʻu began at the summit of Kīlauea began at 3:19 AM HST on October 17, 2026.

Fountain heights are relatively low at about 100-150 feet (30-45 m), and it is not clear whether this episode will evolve to the same heights as previous episodes. Continuous overflows from the vents began yesterday, October 16, just before 6 a.m. HST and transitioned into episode 55 fountains at 3:19 a.m. HST this morning. The current forecast is for winds are blowing from the north-northeast direction, which suggests that volcanic gas emissions and volcanic material may be distributed to the south-southwest direction from Halemaʻumaʻu.
  • All eruptive vents and lava flows are confined to Halemaʻumaʻu crater within Hawaiʻi Volcanoes National Park. Tephra fall from volcanic ash clouds is greatest within 3 miles (5 km) of the vents, lighter ash and Pele's Hair may stay suspended for large distances from the vents.
Foxbat
Kīlauea seems to be returning to the "normal" eruption script, impressive fountaining from the North Vent. For once, the V2 Cam has the best overall shot:
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The lava flows have covered a good portion of the Halemaʻumaʻu crater floor.
BlackHitachi
Supporting Founder
Last reply · posted in Movie Talk
Since the Reds have there thread we should too!

Last watched Nine inch Nails
Next 3:10 to Yuma
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osu1991

View: https://youtu.be/9j3vxhzM8MY?is=Rs1cY1FQAiRWi87i


Come September (1961)
Rock Hudson and Gina Lollobrigida with Sandra Dee and Bobby Darin
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Simple, charming. Entire premise is quite silly but Cary Grant carries it across the line in good fashion.
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Last: The Social Reckoning. Spoiler alert, they make Zuck look like a...
Foxbat
Since it was already "paid" for, I spent the two hours of my time watching the John Cena action movie on Apple TV, "Matchbox The Movie" even though the reviews were brutal. It was better than I expected, so I didn't feel like I had wasted an afternoon watching it. But it felt like another "Reacher"/"Neghley"/"Mission: Impossible"/"Fast & Furious" crash and blow stuff up with lots of automatic gunfire mixed in movie featuring covert CIA operatives.

I don't think we'll get a follow-up movie from this. I expect Mattel will have other toy lines to exploit.
Van
Van
Last reply · posted in What's Cooking?
Who says dinner or lunch has to be the only good meals of the day?

Honey butter grits with scrambled eggs and grilled boneless pork ribs on flakey biscuits washed down with cranberry juice.
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dfergie
Egg, sausage and cheese sandwich between bread toasted in butter in skillet... Chocolate milk.
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Egg, sausage and cheese sandwich between bread toasted in butter in skillet... Chocolate milk.
Add fresh hash browns, delete chocolate for milk with a slice of bacon.
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TRG
Bacon, eggs, hash browns and toast. Coffee.
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TRG
Wound up at the Waffle House this morning. Got the two egg breakfast with coffee.

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Speaking of waffles, I'm going to put my mini waffle iron on stove so I'll remember to make waffles in the morning... Had some last week, been awhile.
dfergie
Dos cackleberrys over easy on top of 2 corned beef hash patties fried in skillet... Chocolate milk.
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dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
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Anyone making their own breakfast sausage? I've recently been trying different recipes, found some I like, some I've modified...
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Bob Evans Sage.
R
Bob Evans Sage.
I will look, but I don't think I have seen it. Owen's breakfast sausage use to be favorite, but I can't find it anymore. Jimmy Dean's country mild is OK also when I can find it.
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dfergie
Swaggerty's isn't too bad, sausage prices are lower per lb than making my own from pork butts right now so I've been buying JC Potter or Owen lately.
(Swaggerty's at Sam's is pre cut, I usually partially freeze the rolls and cut with my slicer and vacuum seal on parchment paper)
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I will look, but I don't think I have seen it. Owen's breakfast sausage use to be favorite, but I can't find it anymore. Jimmy Dean's country mild is OK also when I can find it.
amazon maybe :what
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I will look, but I don't think I have seen it. Owen's breakfast sausage use to be favorite, but I can't find it anymore. Jimmy Dean's country mild is OK also when I can find it.
owens on amazon is 54.99 for a 4 pk 16 oz a sausage. i feel that's kind of steep!!!
S
Swaggerty's isn't too bad, sausage prices are lower per lb than making my own from pork butts right now so I've been buying JC Potter or Owen lately.
(Swaggerty's at Sam's is pre cut, I usually partially freeze the rolls and cut with my slicer and vacuum seal on parchment paper)
id'e rather make my own vs store bought.
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owens on amazon is 54.99 for a 4 pk 16 oz a sausage. i feel that's kind of steep!!!
Especially when I can get a two pound roll of Jimmy Dean from Sam's Club for $7.38.
dfergie
They run Owens at $3.99 for lb and $7.99 a couple times a month at some grocery stores here, I actually was wrong, just checked a pork sirloin roast it was $1.99 a lb. (cooked it yesterday so pack was in trash)
TheRatPatrol
Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Jimbo

Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
Jimbo
Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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Howard Simmons
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
Jimbo
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.

It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.
KAB
KAB
I wonder it they will show the teased meeting (in Origins) with Tony and Gibbs.
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Jimbo
I wonder it they will show the teased meeting (in Origins) with Tony and Gibbs.
I'm curious how they are going to implement Tony into Origins (If they do) ...
Tony was introduced to Gibbs and the team, on NCIS, which makes it the Mothership side of things, he worked in Baltimore prior to NCIS, NO mention when they met that anyone had known one another ...