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I had an experience this last month that proves to me that DISH was smart to have a two arc options for their company. My parents on my second DISH account in Texas have always been pointed to western arc sats: 110/119/129. So has my Aunt on my third DISH account in Arkansas, since I installed it back in 08. On my account I had western arc but switched to eastern arc in 08 when the 1000.4 sat dish came out. Now a few weeks back my Mom and dad and my aunt all had trouble with their reception. My dad kept having his hd locals show a loss of signal and they would turn to the sd equivalent on 119 . My Aunt was having similar situation but would lose all her sat channels ,locals included.
So, I did all the due diligence in replacing all my dad's different switches , diplexors,lnb, coax etc. Same problems persisted. There was a live oak tree in their neighbors yard that had grown up too big and was causing their signal to drop out ,according to my conversation with the dish tech. She showed that the signal was dropping out several times a day on all the different sats at different times of the day. I ended up ordering an eastern arc lnb for $49.99 from dishdepot.com and I reinstalled the lnb on their dish after changing the skew. I had to take the pan off and switch it to the eastern arc skew and put it back. I repointed the dish to the eastern arc sat and viola! Great signal strengths of 55 - 68 on all their transponders and 61 on their spot beam locals. My mom and dad were happy as hell that their service returned to working great.
For my aunt ,I set up an moving appointment for DISH to come out and install a new dish and lnb. Turns out the same problem for her situation: TREES had grown up all around her house. He ended up moving the dish to the back side of the house and she got eastern arc lnb. She got all her locals back ,except she had to go with Little Rock instead of Ft. Smith. She is just happy to be able to see her soap consistently.
So I got to thinking how many subs DISH would lose due to this situation alone if they didn't have two different look angles and arcs for their service. Both my parents and my aunt wouldn't have been able to use either DISH or Directv due to the same general direction both of their sats are located for western arc. Wonder how many subs Directv loses or can't even get to sub to their service over this issue alone?
Incidentally , I found my live oak tree in my front yard is now blocking my western arc dish, I use for just powering my not subscribed 211k and my clip on antenna ,so I can get my ota stations to come in . The 129 sat is being blocked quite a lot and the spot beam sat is coming in much lower than it would if it was moved away from the tree. Might have to eventually move it to another area to keep my reception going and my ota coming in.
So, I did all the due diligence in replacing all my dad's different switches , diplexors,lnb, coax etc. Same problems persisted. There was a live oak tree in their neighbors yard that had grown up too big and was causing their signal to drop out ,according to my conversation with the dish tech. She showed that the signal was dropping out several times a day on all the different sats at different times of the day. I ended up ordering an eastern arc lnb for $49.99 from dishdepot.com and I reinstalled the lnb on their dish after changing the skew. I had to take the pan off and switch it to the eastern arc skew and put it back. I repointed the dish to the eastern arc sat and viola! Great signal strengths of 55 - 68 on all their transponders and 61 on their spot beam locals. My mom and dad were happy as hell that their service returned to working great.
For my aunt ,I set up an moving appointment for DISH to come out and install a new dish and lnb. Turns out the same problem for her situation: TREES had grown up all around her house. He ended up moving the dish to the back side of the house and she got eastern arc lnb. She got all her locals back ,except she had to go with Little Rock instead of Ft. Smith. She is just happy to be able to see her soap consistently.
So I got to thinking how many subs DISH would lose due to this situation alone if they didn't have two different look angles and arcs for their service. Both my parents and my aunt wouldn't have been able to use either DISH or Directv due to the same general direction both of their sats are located for western arc. Wonder how many subs Directv loses or can't even get to sub to their service over this issue alone?
Incidentally , I found my live oak tree in my front yard is now blocking my western arc dish, I use for just powering my not subscribed 211k and my clip on antenna ,so I can get my ota stations to come in . The 129 sat is being blocked quite a lot and the spot beam sat is coming in much lower than it would if it was moved away from the tree. Might have to eventually move it to another area to keep my reception going and my ota coming in.
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When I bought my new eastern arc lnb , I got it from www.dishdepot.com. ( He charges no tax on any item sold and free shipping unless you are asking for expedited service. I've done business with Mark since 03 and he has always given me great service and even trade ins on OWNED receivers are welcomed towards credit for new receivers ) He provided with the lnb, the installation book for both arcs and the 1000.2 dish. It provides the skew ,elevation and azimuth directions for both western arc and eastern arcs.
For your zip code in Pharr ,Texas I read online that you have one zipcode for your area: 78577. The eastern arc lnb directions for your area are :Elevation of the dish is 46 /Skew of the dish is 46/Azimuth is 123.
If you are pointed towards western arc sats 110/119/129 ,like I was at my parents house, you will have to take the sat dish pan off and re-adjust the skew so it is pointed to 46 skew and then put the pan back on and bolt it all down. The directions say that if you need to use the additional bolts along the skew plate, if use skews that are either greater than 110 or less than 70. So basically your sat dish need 4 bolts to keep the skew plate locked down so it doesn't shake in the wind. Also if you are changing arcs you need to clear out your switch matrix,by running a check switch without the sat coaxes connected to your receiver and save the results ,even though they will show nothing in your matrix. Then put the coaxes back on your receiver on so you can use the meter for signal strength when you peak it.
Now once you get the dish pan back on and pointed in the general direction of the eastern sats - 123 azimuth using a compass, and your skew plate locked in place on 46, elevation also on 46 , you can take a sat meter and a coax ( cheap one I got at dishdepot) and put it on the first port of the lnb and peak on 72.7 sat transponder 13 . Now , the first time I did this I swiveled the dish to the left and the meter went off 10 strength ,but when I went in the house, I found I was on the 77 sat. So I swiveled back a little to the right and I got 72.7 to come in. So don't be surprised if you have the same issue. Both sats are very near each other. If you get 77 sat to show up , you are only a slight swivel to the right to get 72.7.
Once you are peaked on 72.7 , that is all you have to do , 61.5 is already there,assuming you use the right skew and elevation. I used my son on his cell phone to tell me if I got a strong enough signal. Because you can hear the sat meter go off ,but you can't know what strength you are getting , just 1 - 10 on the meter. I could only get around 36, no matter if I changed the elevation -which I didn't need to do. After I got it peaked on transponder 13 and locked my dish in place, and ran the coax back through like it is supposed to do and reran my check switch. I got around 62 on that same transponder. In fact I got like between 55 - 68 on all the transponders. Remember that on eastern arc anything 50 or higher is a great signal so not to have excessive rain fade issues. So make sure that you get your switch check run and let your receiver download the guide and you should be in business.
One other tip if you want to see the elevation skew and azimuth angles for yourself is to go to DISH's website , then choose support heading then installation sub heading and then pick the 1000.2 sat dish and there you will find both western and eastern arc look angles etc.
Good luck .
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For quite a while now, people with a VIP211k have been losing their recordings on their activated external HDDs... even when there's nothing physically wrong with HDD. I believe this is an intentional and underhanded tactic that Dish is pulling in an attempt to force users away from the VIP211k.
They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.
Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.
On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.
It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.
I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.
They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.
Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.
On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.
It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.
I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.
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Has anyone subscribed to NBA League Pass for 2026-27 and try to link their account to NBA.com to stream League Pass? I purchased it for 2026-27, and when I linked, I got a message saying success, but then I receive an error that my linked subscription does not include the preseason games for NBA League Pass. Is that how it has always been? I know satellite doesn't have the preseason games on the NBA League Pass channels, but I thought that I was able to stream the preseason once I linked my account on NBA.com?
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Nah, you just don't understand how ignore works, which is why you made your own NFL thread thinking there wasn't one
For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. 
WTF… …What the Foxbat!Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat.
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I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you
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I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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Apple has finally released their Apple TV 4K with built-in Siri and a microphone so it can respond to your queries even if you don't have the remote. It also increases in price, to $299. I had been planning on updating my current Apple TV 4K streamers, but that's $600 for the two of them, and that's a pass at this point.
At $299, it had better come with 256 GB of Storage, Gigabit (or better) Ethernet, the latest HDMI tech and standards, and one year of free Apple One. But it probably won't…
At $299, it had better come with 256 GB of Storage, Gigabit (or better) Ethernet, the latest HDMI tech and standards, and one year of free Apple One. But it probably won't…
Apple TV 4K
Apple TV 4K. New Siri AI and hands-free control. Stunning picture and immersive HomePod surround sound. Works with your Apple and smart home devices.
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. apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
they all do that anyways.. ever notice your cell phone slows down when you come up for an upgrade..
. apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
You should have looked in the APP STORE instead.
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Several Dish offers showed up today in my account. Once you choose one the rest are removed. Offers were Showtime, Starz, AMC and others.
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Not for me, mines has no mention of how long aka the offer period and the Terms and conditions the $0.00 is good for. All I see is one can lose $5.00 if you decide to remove it before day 31 after you add it to the account.
You have a different offer that is free for a shorter timeframe which is different than the one that I and bnewt saw without defining the promotion period as I sent the question to DISH Care via Facebook Messenger and this is the response I got back 20 minutes ago.
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