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I've searched high and low but can't manage to find the frequency this receiver uses on the RG-6 cable. I need to know what GHz I need to use on this replacement receiver. 1GHZ? 2GHz? 3GHz? Is there a list somewhere to refer to? I can't even so much as find specs (detailed) on the 311k or the 322 for that matter... & a 311k manual?
P.S. Also, how do I find out *all* of the channel/transponders I have? All sites I've searched so far don't list the local channel packages (OTA programming) and for some reason quite a few others...
Reason I ask is I think I possibly have 3 problems. 1. Dish needs peaked. 2. Possibly wrong fittings (barrel couplers are 990MHz I believe) 3. Possibly bad cable- looong story...
Thanks in advance!
P.S. Also, how do I find out *all* of the channel/transponders I have? All sites I've searched so far don't list the local channel packages (OTA programming) and for some reason quite a few others...
Reason I ask is I think I possibly have 3 problems. 1. Dish needs peaked. 2. Possibly wrong fittings (barrel couplers are 990MHz I believe) 3. Possibly bad cable- looong story...
Thanks in advance!
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And the 950-1450MHz is signal from the satellites that is converted to a lower frequency to be transmitted on the cable or is that the actual frequency transmitted on the cable into the house? I've been trying to research some on the subject and from what I'd read my thought was the LNB lowered the transmitted frequency so it could be transmitted (successfully) on lower frequency cable or something?
Sorry for all the questions guys; still a newbie and trying to figure out what I have and what I need to improve the signal. Signal is crappy on most transponders still yet (50-60 with a few at around 70). That's why I was thinking of focusing on just the transponders (channels) we watch.
On a related note, is there some way to find out what my signal quality *should* be in my area?
To recap:
Our complete system details:
-311k (basically a 322 from what I've read?)
-Dish 500 dish (doesn't say DishPro on it- just says Dish I'm thinking; it's dark outside now so can't look) with a dual LNB (one oval? eye w/ two cables going in for 2 receivers)
-3GHz cable at the moment bought from a local satellite dealer (but has *multiple* waterproof underground RG-6 splice kits in it under ground w/ 950MHz? barrell couplers) and a barrell coupler (950MHz?) at the dish with weatherproof plugs and boots covering them (I disconnect there to align the dish with)
-Live at 47167 and use satellites 119 and 110 (have America's Top 120+ with local package)
So I have a DishPro receiver? So do I refer to our system as a DishPro system or does that not necessarily apply since our dish doesn't say DishPro?
And the 950-1450MHz is signal from the satellites that is converted to a lower frequency to be transmitted on the cable or is that the actual frequency transmitted on the cable into the house? I've been trying to research some on the subject and from what I'd read my thought was the LNB lowered the transmitted frequency so it could be transmitted (successfully) on lower frequency cable or something?
Sorry for all the questions guys; still a newbie and trying to figure out what I have and what I need to improve the signal. Signal is crappy on most transponders still yet (50-60 with a few at around 70). That's why I was thinking of focusing on just the transponders (channels) we watch.
On a related note, is there some way to find out what my signal quality *should* be in my area?
To recap:
Our complete system details:
-311k (basically a 322 from what I've read?)
-Dish 500 dish (doesn't say DishPro on it- just says Dish I'm thinking; it's dark outside now so can't look)
with a dual LNB (one oval? eye w/ two cables going in for 2 receivers)-3GHz cable at the moment bought from a local satellite dealer (but has *multiple* waterproof underground RG-6 splice kits in it under ground w/ 950MHz? barrell couplers) and a barrell coupler (950MHz?) at the dish with weatherproof plugs and boots covering them (I disconnect there to align the dish with)
-Live at 47167 and use satellites 119 and 110 (have America's Top 120+ with local package)
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that is actually good. Disregard the thought that 125 (which shows on the meter IIRC) is the max. Dish neutered the meter...oof....5 years ago so 50-60 on CONUS transponders is about right and 70's for spotbeams is right
yup. But you only need one input and there is only one output (Dish disabled the 2nd tuner in it)
probably a Legacy Twin which that will work fine-Dish 500 dish (doesn't say DishPro on it- just says Dish I'm thinking; it's dark outside now so can't look)
Aha. I had forgotten that. One wonders why Dish wastes a former 322 on the modest needs of a 311 owner.
Did they run out of 311's?
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1. Dish converting the system has bugs and suddenly our old partial "legacy" system has bugs
or
2. I had a combination of problems...
You see, what started all of this was this (it *was* working perfectly):
I'm installing a handrail for my mother to use outside when the ramp is slick (especially in the winter) and was second-guessing myself about using enough concrete/sand/gravel mix for the posts, so 'genius-me' goes to the dish (on a pole set in concrete out at the edge of the property years back) and I'm thinking, "that's strange, this has worked fine for years and I did it about the same way" whilst wiggling and pushing on the post testing the sturdiness of my previous build years back. Around that time we suddenly started having SERIOUS signal problems- pixelating and video/audio dropouts. So I'm thinking either the Dish qpsk/8psk change has made things screwy or maybe I pushed a little too hard?
So I go out to the dish, start attempting to fine-tune it back in and don't get too far;still dropouts galore and I notice (AFTER my alignment attempt) a tree limb with vines on it possibly blocking the signal so I remove that.
I start researching (I remember seeing some build-up on the dish that I didn't remember seeing before- the best way to describe it is, you know what paint looks like after many years and how it starts flaking and chipping). I saw that on the dish but it didn't look like paint so I figure it's a result of tree sap over the years (it's located under trees-trees EVERYWHERE on our property) and bird crap both combined? So I read a guy used bleach to clean his so I try spraying bleach on it, let it soak, then used a plastic brush that comes with a bottle of Gojo Orange on it- comes off like magic! Yea! Signal quality went up 2 points and is more stable! One of both helped it!
But, now since we are still experiencing a *little* anomaly here and there still yet and I'm wondering if possibly the underground splice kits (w/ 950MHz barrel couplers?) I used are adding to the signal loss problem AND maybe it still needs to be fine-tuned (since I tried aligning with obstacles possibly blocking the path?) I came here and asked about all of this from you fine folks!
I'm thinking at this point since the signal loss? (anomaly) is pretty much only noticed on channel 41 (local channel from Louisville as I've been learned here recently) I figure I need to readjust the dish again (maybe use transponder 4 on sat 110 as a guide?) AND replace the entire cable.?
I've only had one experience in this and that was when I moved the dish off the side of the house and onto the custom pole I set for it years back. I can't quite figure out exactly how to align the dish to its maximum signal just yet (I used transponders 19 the previous time and got lucky?). From what I read I need to set the skew first and don't touch it again as it changes other settings when modified (which I didn't leave it earlier and tinkered with it after), then side-to-side for max signal gain, then finally up and down (can't remember the technical terms used). Is this the best procedure to receive channels on 119 and 110 using a Dish 500?
I had a spare receiver to use for alignment purposes at the dish but now it's not usable for 110 (I've already tried-my analog alignment meter shows a signal but the receiver was dead quiet showing no signal meaning they've killed the (QPSK I think I read?) signal for my outdated receiver and now must take the good 311k receiver out there temporarily, which this method sucks by the way as it's difficult to remove and reinstall in the current location in the entertainment system...)
Oh, and we're sticking to this setup for 2 reasons:
1. Money is tight here with a type-1 diabetic dog + a dog that has congestive heart failure + a dog that has incontinence problems along with back hips no longer wanting to work too well. All is managed ok with meds and special dog food but it's taxing on my paycheck (and then I still have to pay my bills/buy groceries!)
2. We have a family member who is kind enough to pay the Dish bill for us every month FREE! If we upgraded, the fee would cost more for her AND would lock into a new contract? To my understanding anyways...
Oh, and the underground splice kits details: were waterproof RG-6 plugs and a barrel coupler which I'm thinking was a 950MHz (but could be wrong?) that gets smashed into a big glob of dielectric grease I think? in a plastic snap case which then snaps together, supposedly waterproofing the assembly... I'm thinking it's safe from water (or our receiver would already be shorted out I'd think) but not for sure about the couplers- I have another spare somewhere to look at... LOL
Whew, that was a lot of typing!
Well maybe I am overthinking things? BUT, the fact remains that either:
1. Dish converting the system has bugs and suddenly our old partial "legacy" system has bugs
or
2. I had a combination of problems...
You see, what started all of this was this (it *was* working perfectly):
I'm installing a handrail for my mother to use outside when the ramp is slick (especially in the winter) and was second-guessing myself about using enough concrete/sand/gravel mix for the posts, so 'genius-me' goes to the dish (on a pole set in concrete out at the edge of the property years back) and I'm thinking, "that's strange, this has worked fine for years and I did it about the same way" whilst wiggling and pushing on the post testing the sturdiness of my previous build years back. Around that time we suddenly started having SERIOUS signal problems- pixelating and video/audio dropouts. So I'm thinking either the Dish qpsk/8psk change has made things screwy or maybe I pushed a little too hard?
So I go out to the dish, start attempting to fine-tune it back in and don't get too far;still dropouts galore and I notice (AFTER my alignment attempt) a tree limb with vines on it possibly blocking the signal so I remove that.
I start researching (I remember seeing some build-up on the dish that I didn't remember seeing before- the best way to describe it is, you know what paint looks like after many years and how it starts flaking and chipping). I saw that on the dish but it didn't look like paint so I figure it's a result of tree sap over the years (it's located under trees-trees EVERYWHERE on our property) and bird crap both combined? So I read a guy used bleach to clean his so I try spraying bleach on it, let it soak, then used a plastic brush that comes with a bottle of Gojo Orange on it- comes off like magic! Yea! Signal quality went up 2 points and is more stable! One of both helped it!
But, now since we are still experiencing a *little* anomaly here and there still yet and I'm wondering if possibly the underground splice kits (w/ 950MHz barrel couplers?) I used are adding to the signal loss problem AND maybe it still needs to be fine-tuned (since I tried aligning with obstacles possibly blocking the path?) I came here and asked about all of this from you fine folks!
I'm thinking at this point since the signal loss? (anomaly) is pretty much only noticed on channel 41 (local channel from Louisville as I've been learned here recently)
I figure I need to readjust the dish again (maybe use transponder 4 on sat 110 as a guide?) AND replace the entire cable.?I've only had one experience in this and that was when I moved the dish off the side of the house and onto the custom pole I set for it years back. I can't quite figure out exactly how to align the dish to its maximum signal just yet (I used transponders 19 the previous time and got lucky?). From what I read I need to set the skew first and don't touch it again as it changes other settings when modified (which I didn't leave it earlier and tinkered with it after), then side-to-side for max signal gain, then finally up and down (can't remember the technical terms used). Is this the best procedure to receive channels on 119 and 110 using a Dish 500?
I had a spare receiver to use for alignment purposes at the dish but now it's not usable for 110 (I've already tried-my analog alignment meter shows a signal but the receiver was dead quiet showing no signal meaning they've killed the (QPSK I think I read?) signal for my outdated receiver and now must take the good 311k receiver out there temporarily, which this method sucks by the way as it's difficult to remove and reinstall in the current location in the entertainment system...)
Oh, and we're sticking to this setup for 2 reasons:
1. Money is tight here with a type-1 diabetic dog + a dog that has congestive heart failure + a dog that has incontinence problems along with back hips no longer wanting to work too well. All is managed ok with meds and special dog food but it's taxing on my paycheck (and then I still have to pay my bills/buy groceries!)
2. We have a family member who is kind enough to pay the Dish bill for us every month FREE! If we upgraded, the fee would cost more for her AND would lock into a new contract? To my understanding anyways...
Oh, and the underground splice kits details: were waterproof RG-6 plugs and a barrel coupler which I'm thinking was a 950MHz (but could be wrong?) that gets smashed into a big glob of dielectric grease I think? in a plastic snap case which then snaps together, supposedly waterproofing the assembly... I'm thinking it's safe from water (or our receiver would already be shorted out I'd think) but not for sure about the couplers- I have another spare somewhere to look at... LOL
Whew, that was a lot of typing!
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I know they were sending out 311k's (ex 322's) during the conversion. My grandma got two of them to replace her 301's
Aha. I had forgotten that. One wonders why Dish wastes a former 322 on the modest needs of a 311 owner.
I know they were sending out 311k's (ex 322's) during the conversion. My grandma got two of them to replace her 301's
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Browns lose a close one with... The Jets. That is a classic Browns loss (granted, any loss is a classic one it seems). 49'ers, Vikings, and Chiefs remain undefeated. The AFC north have a three way tie at 3-2 for second place.
A big win for the Patriots, and they are now 3-2.
Browns lose a close one with... The Jets. That is a classic Browns loss (granted, any loss is a classic one it seems). 49'ers, Vikings, and Chiefs remain undefeated. The AFC north have a three way tie at 3-2 for second place.
Troy Aikman seems to confirm he'll be leaving ESPN
Aikman says he looks forward to "where my next landing spot will be."
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.Troy Aikman seems to confirm he'll be leaving ESPN
Aikman says he looks forward to "where my next landing spot will be."
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I had quit watching this show years ago because I ended up more annoyed than entertained. Well......I'm STILL more annoyed than entertained. I DO find it interesting to see how things work behind the scenes at many businesses. What annoys me is how utterly out of touch CEOs are with the companies they run. At the end of almost every episode the head of the company is amazed at how hard the employees have to work and many times have to work around impossible guidelines set forth from headquarters.
I found this one interesting because the new CEO had big plans for this company, Muscle Maker Grill, and it looked like the stores were all pretty busy. Recent history hasn't been good to this company however. I bet the covid lockdowns were the real killer.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIhZm0qkz0o
I found this one interesting because the new CEO had big plans for this company, Muscle Maker Grill, and it looked like the stores were all pretty busy. Recent history hasn't been good to this company however. I bet the covid lockdowns were the real killer.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIhZm0qkz0o
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I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
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CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
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Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
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Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
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An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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For quite a while now, people with a VIP211k have been losing their recordings on their activated external HDDs... even when there's nothing physically wrong with HDD. I believe this is an intentional and underhanded tactic that Dish is pulling in an attempt to force users away from the VIP211k.
They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.
Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.
On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.
It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.
I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.
They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.
Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.
On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.
It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.
I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.
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For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming youWTF… …What the Foxbat!
I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you
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OMG to freaking funny
Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.
I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Tony as the director.
Would you rather have LaRoche ???Tony as the director.
No. Bring in someone new.
Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
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