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WhiteBeard
WhiteBeard
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Last reply · posted in C-BAND Satellite Discussion

C-band dish size for DVB-S2/8PSK

Just how small of a dish will receive these signals? I recall from a couple years ago a few people stated that less than a 12 footer is too small even though I've heard that a 10 footer will work. My research indicates that DVB-S2 was developed so that smaller dishes can be used. Anyway, I'm using a KTI 12 footer that now has hail damage and is slightly out of alignment and yet it still pulls in DVB-S2/8PSK signals with no problem. It certainly doesn't have the "perfect" parabolic shape anymore. Anyway, I may have to replace my 12 footer if hail and wind damage makes it unusable in the future. If so, I don't want to have to spend $3000+ for a dish if a 10 footer or even an 8 footer will get the job done.
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updatelee
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Have you tried it with 16 or 32psk? The op didn't ask about that, in just curious.

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I've got City TV and SLN on my 90cm dish before and they are DVB-S2 8PSK. They do have a 1/2 FEC though. Trying to get a high FEC signal that is DVB-S2 8PSK on a tiny dish just won't work.
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nycrich
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I have been experimenting for the last 20 years with dishes from 4 to 10 feet, LNBs, and receivers.
Some things to note when trying to receive DVB S2/8PSK:
1. The satellite footprint for your area and the signal strength. Intelsats have a weaker signal strength for US. Locations.
2. The polarity of the satellite transponder. Satellites with circular reception require a dedicated LNB for reception. I have used a 6ft dish with a DMX 741U combo C/KU with Teflon insert to get 40.5W that consisted off all circular polarities and could not get any S2. I switched over to a Chaparral LNB and was able to get all S2 using the same size dish. Hence it is not just a matter of dish size but you can use a smaller dish with a higher quality LNB.
3. Receiver sensitivity. Some receivers I used like Satcruiser, AZBOX, Amiko A3 have a sensitive tuner with minimal heating to the S2 Tuner card and allow stable reception with a smaller dish.
4. Alignment of your system, motorized or non motorized. Obviously a larger dish is more forgiving with a signal than a smaller dish

So what I found out that using a 6 footer, high quality LNB, and a sensitive receiver I was able to get 98% S2, 8PSK. From roughly 22W to 136W. Newer receivers contributed enormously with faster processors and better bugless freezing.
Smaller than 6 feet was "hit or miss".
An 8 footer would be better if your LNB/receiver was not cutting edge
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WhiteBeard
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nycrich said:
4. Alignment of your system, motorized or non motorized. Obviously a larger dish is more forgiving with a signal than a smaller dish
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I've had a lot of trouble with my 12 footers not staying on target. So, saying that a larger dish is more forgiving isn't necessarily true. There isn't a loose nut or bolt on my dishes either. As a matter of fact, I've stripped some nuts and bolts. I'm mentioning this since there will be someone that'll say I have a loose nut or bolt somewhere. Anyway, I'm having trouble staying on target with my KTI 12 footer. I'd get it peaked and save the position only to have to re-peak again the after moving to another bird and then back. When I used my 4DTV receiver as a dish mover, I was able to use it's autopeak feature to get back on the bird whereas with an FTA receiver I don't have that easier solution. I was hoping to make the FTA system easier to use mostly for the wife but if I can't keep the dish reliably on the target then I'm the one that has to mess with it to get it working again. As much "fun" as it has been I'm just about ready to send everything to the scrap yard. I'm retired now and have more time to play with this stuff but the frustration level has gotten quite high.
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fred555
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Noise in the pulse counter wiring would be my first guess? Please describe the wiring to the actuator, what type of actuator, wire gauges, shielding, grounding etc... I'm sure there are smarter ones than me here that can also help get to the bottom of this situation. Electrical noise would make some counts get lost on the way back to the position you are going for, then the dish would be in wrong spot. Motor and sensor wires in the same bundle is the cause I have seen here mostly.
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Tim Cook, Elton John & King Charles: A Royal Tech Event

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/oRVxjGm0qtE


Direct YouTube Link - Tim Cook, Elton John & King Charles: A Royal Tech Event
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Watch the New Tesla Roadster Jump, Fly and Barrel-Roll in Mid-Air!

Time for another AWESOME video from TFL Electric Vehicles!


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Direct YouTube Link - Watch the New Tesla Roadster Jump, Fly and Barrel-Roll in Mid-Air!
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The Apple HomeView

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0k5iT-OlpdE


Direct YouTube Link - The Apple HomeView
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osu1991
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Last reply · posted in TV Shows

Frisco King - Paramount Plus


View: https://youtu.be/RHYQYYm5jLM?is=cwxm9t1efsWNl6yy


December 18, 2026 Paramount plus
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View: https://youtu.be/RHYQYYm5jLM?is=cwxm9t1efsWNl6yy


December 18, 2026 Paramount plus
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Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
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dishstaller
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Howard Simmons said:
Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
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But.....if you like Tulsa King....looks like you would probably like this as well. I don't mind spin-offs as long as they don't involve a sassy niece who moves from the big city :rolleyes:
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Am I the only one that hates what Dish did to their mobile app?

I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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Not alot of dish customers any more
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I'm not a big fan of the new layout, especially on my Apple TV. It used to look like the old Guide layout on the Hopper 3, but they changed parts of that, too.
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I really dislike change for the sake of change
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NCIS

Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Jimbo said:

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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Tony as the director.🙄
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Howard Simmons said:
Tony as the director.🙄
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Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
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Howard Simmons said:
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
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I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.

It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.
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dishstaller
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Last reply · posted in Movie Talk

Trailer for new Jim Caviezel movie Ghost Soldier

Might be worth a watch when it comes out. Looks like typical big corp against the little guy movie BUT....there is a reason this plot type is so oft repeated, it draws audiences.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-f9OGsKHd4
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BTW, I noticed right after I posted this that someone else had already mentioned it....sorry for the duplicate thread. Still looking forward to seeing the movie.
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Project Hail Mary

If you're going try to read / listen to the book (can't recommend the audio book enough) before this comes out, I'd avoid trailers.

Trailer below, spoiling it to make sure you read the above bold message first. The book / audio book are fantastic. Go into this blind if you can IMO!


View: https://youtu.be/m08TxIsFTRI



Kind of disappointed at how much they show. A lot still to see, but man, some good reveals in the book that are just served up here.
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I've seen it twice. Can't recommend the audio book enough, Ray Porter's performance is amazing and there's so much more in the book than the movie.
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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
www.ign.com

'It Is Time Go!' — Project Hail Mary Is Officially Coming to Prime Video

Amazon has confirmed that Project Hail Mary will be coming to Prime Video.
www.ign.com www.ign.com
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Forgot to comment. I did watch when it first came out on MGM. I enjoyed it a lot. I think reading the book made it easier to watch. Several friends commented it was a little hard to follow.
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"astrophage". I read the book but didn't see the film yet.
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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
www.ign.com

'It Is Time Go!' — Project Hail Mary Is Officially Coming to Prime Video

Amazon has confirmed that Project Hail Mary will be coming to Prime Video.
www.ign.com www.ign.com
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That's what I will be watching this weekend.🤗
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Kindle book on sale for $2.99 today at Amazon.
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dishstaller
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meStevo said:
.........there's so much more in the book than the movie.
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I agree. That can go for pretty much any book vs movie. Back when I was single I would read any Stephen King or John Grisham book I could get my hands on. When you read a book you make up the scenes and characters in your mind.....the movie version always disappoints.
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NFL 2026-2027 Season

Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
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A big win for the Patriots, and they are now 3-2.

Browns lose a close one with... The Jets. That is a classic Browns loss (granted, any loss is a classic one it seems). 49'ers, Vikings, and Chiefs remain undefeated. The AFC north have a three way tie at 3-2 for second place. :eek:
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Troy Aikman seems to confirm he'll be leaving ESPN

Aikman says he looks forward to "where my next landing spot will be."
www.nbcsports.com www.nbcsports.com
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osu1991 said:
www.nbcsports.com

Troy Aikman seems to confirm he'll be leaving ESPN

Aikman says he looks forward to "where my next landing spot will be."
www.nbcsports.com www.nbcsports.com
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
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After having experienced Gus Ferguson trying to call soccer games, I'm uncertain why NFL football analysts get hate. Even the "worst" of them are pretty good.
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meStevo
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Jalen Hurts out indefinitely as they treat and monitor a superficial blood clot in his leg.


View: https://x.com/RapSheet/status/2111074303185989663?s=20
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dishstaller
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Started watching Undercover Boss again

I had quit watching this show years ago because I ended up more annoyed than entertained. Well......I'm STILL more annoyed than entertained. I DO find it interesting to see how things work behind the scenes at many businesses. What annoys me is how utterly out of touch CEOs are with the companies they run. At the end of almost every episode the head of the company is amazed at how hard the employees have to work and many times have to work around impossible guidelines set forth from headquarters.

I found this one interesting because the new CEO had big plans for this company, Muscle Maker Grill, and it looked like the stores were all pretty busy. Recent history hasn't been good to this company however. I bet the covid lockdowns were the real killer.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIhZm0qkz0o
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