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BruceE

Last reply Jan 21, 2016 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Cancel service

I am still under contract with Dish but due to retirement & not much income now does anyone know k how much it would cost to get of of the contract. I have been a customer with Dish for over 10 years. I don't want to deal with them on price I just need to get out of the contract & the monthly bill.

Thanks,
Bruce

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Claude Greiner

Jan 17, 2016

As far as my comments about the Attorney General, I can't tell you how many times MY customers complained to the Attorney General and where let out of their contract, costing me money because the customer was allowed to cancel their services early.

So as far as I'm concerned I'll letting everyone know about this little loop hole, and if Dish wants to do anything about it, they need to grow some balls and research the issue at hand when customers complain, instead of rolling over and letting the customer win every time.

Sure I got something against Dish. They stole 2.8 million dollars from me.

As far as the Welcome pack, that's a good option also.

I haven't said anything bad about Dish for a while. All I'm doing is pointing out the obvious.

BTW, Bob Haller pointed out going to the attorney general works. Who do you think gave him the idea to do that

bobvick

Jan 17, 2016

Claude Greiner said:
Sure I got something against Dish. They stole 2.8 million dollars from me.

How exactly did they steal $3 million from you? Did they breach a contract?

Claude Greiner

Jan 18, 2016

bobvick said:
How exactly did they steal $3 million from you? Did they breach a contract?

$40,000 per month for 60 months in residuals

bobvick

Jan 18, 2016

Claude Greiner said:
$40,000 per month for 60 months in residuals

Why didn't they pay you?

TNGTony

Jan 18, 2016

If and when.... AT&T is now making a play for TWC too.

JSheridan

Jan 18, 2016

TNGTony said:
If and when.... AT&T is now making a play for TWC too.

I didn't know that. Thanks. That could get interesting.

The Charter/TWC merger was approved in New York State last week and that usually doesn't happen until everything is greased and it's pretty much a done deal. BTW, I see that TWC just announced a rate increase.

Claude Greiner

Jan 18, 2016

bobvick said:
Why didn't they pay you?

That's why they took my contract away, to get out of paying me my residuals.

bobvick

Jan 19, 2016

Claude Greiner said:
That's why they took my contract away, to get out of paying me my residuals.

So your contract wasn't binding? It was openended and could be dissolved at anytime? I was just wondering because if you weren't aware of that going in, it would seem you would have a case on breach of contract.

bobvick

Jan 19, 2016

JSheridan said:
I didn't know that. Thanks. That could get interesting.

The Charter/TWC merger was approved in New York State last week and that usually doesn't happen until everything is greased and it's pretty much a done deal. BTW, I see that TWC just announced a rate increase.

It's not Time Warner Cable, it's Time Warner the media company that owns HBO, Turner, etc.. two completely separate entities.

JSheridan

Jan 19, 2016

bobvick said:
It's not Time Warner Cable, it's Time Warner the media company that owns HBO, Turner, etc.. two completely separate entities.

Huh? Time Warner Cable is slated to merge with Charter Cable. That's what I was talking about. Are you saying that AT&T is making a move on the media company?

http://consumerist.com/2016/01/18/t...w-york-after-state-okays-merger-with-charter/

http://consumerist.com/2015/11/03/c...plan-great-for-everyone-according-to-charter/

bobvick

Jan 19, 2016

JSheridan said:
Huh? Time Warner Cable is slated to merge with Charter Cable. That's what I was talking about. Are you saying that AT&T is making a move on the media company?

http://consumerist.com/2015/11/03/c...plan-great-for-everyone-according-to-charter/

Yes, there has been rumors that Time Warner Inc may be trying to find a suitor. Apple and AT&T have been mentioned as MAYBE being interested. Nothing to do with the TWC/Charter deal. Hell, the DOJ wouldn't let them and Comcast merge and AT&T-DirecTV-UVerse is bigger than Comcast in subscriber numbers.
But I see what you were talking about, it was another poster that thought it was TWC.

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Bob Haller

Jan 19, 2016

The PA ag got dish to drop over a grand in late fees and penalties.......

after our intellectually disabled friend, she is physically 27 years old, but mentally 8 years old. she signed a contract for dish, and anyone talking to her for more than a minute or two know she has issues......

intrerestingly a fios rep signed her up too.......

well the ag got her out of the contract. she had to move, the home where she was living got foreclosed on, its been sold at sheriffs sale..

she returned to her moms, and dish was in the neighborhood and signed her up again.......

claude graciously told me of this, or we would of never known.

i do know dish about the time of the fee hikes and all the rest screwed lots of dealers out of their resduals.

suit management at its finest

Claude Greiner

Jan 20, 2016

bobvick said:
So your contract wasn't binding? It was openended and could be dissolved at anytime? I was just wondering because if you weren't aware of that going in, it would seem you would have a case on breach of contract.

The problem is that the original contract I signed in 1998 gave me some rights.

The issue is the contracts expire every 2 years, and it's a contract of adheasion.

It's 1 sided, either you sign the renewal with the new conditions or your not a dealer anymore.

They where paying me $500,000 per year to be a dealer, on top of my regular commissions.

That was their issue with me, and you know Dish will do anything they can do to save a buck.

bobvick

Jan 20, 2016

Claude Greiner said:
The problem is that the original contract I signed in 1998 gave me some rights.

The issue is the contracts expire every 2 years, and it's a contract of adheasion.

It's 1 sided, either you sign the renewal with the new conditions or your not a dealer anymore.

They where paying me $500,000 per year to be a dealer, on top of my regular commissions.

That was their issue with me, and you know Dish will do anything they can do to save a buck.

So, basically with that one sided, take it or leave it contract, they ended up changing the terms from previous years so that retailers had to basically do what Dish wanted or not play the game, and at the same time they took away your incentive bonus and any residuals that you might have received (or were receiving) from previous agreements?
I guess they used you retailers for the big growth part of their "product life cycle" and once they got to maturity, made their terms unconscionable for many dealers? Just want the big RSPs now?

Does DirecTV do the same with the contracts of adhesion? Has anything changed with AT&T?

Claude Greiner

Jan 21, 2016

bobvick said:
So, basically with that one sided, take it or leave it contract, they ended up changing the terms from previous years so that retailers had to basically do what Dish wanted or not play the game, and at the same time they took away your incentive bonus and any residuals that you might have received (or were receiving) from previous agreements?
I guess they used you retailers for the big growth part of their "product life cycle" and once they got to maturity, made their terms unconscionable for many dealers? Just want the big RSPs now?

Does DirecTV do the same with the contracts of adhesion? Has anything changed with AT&T?

I haven't had to renew my directv since I signed on in 2010

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klang

Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Last reply 19 minutes ago · posted in TV Shows

Rockford Files Reboot?

'Rockford Files' Reboot Gets NBC Pilot Order

I grow tired of all the reboots. Most I don't bother with but will depend on the actor chosen.

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long_time_Dish

May 12, 2026

Yeah, I'll check it out as well, but shan't be holding my breath...It'll be tough to equal James Garner in that role...

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harshness

May 12, 2026

long_time_DNC said:
...It'll be tough to equal James Garner in that role...

I can think of a few actors (including some females) who might fit the bill.

This will all depend on the storyline. I'm not sure how well it will translate. Modern TV hasn't been all that kind to PIs and even less kind to CIs (confidential informants).

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klang

Today at 5:30 PM

Premier is Saturday, Jan 2nd. Moving to Thursday on the 7th.

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dfergie

26 minutes ago

Teaser

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long_time_Dish

19 minutes ago

dfergie said:
Teaser

View: https://youtu.be/g7R669yokr4?is=wv_qN0B-YOBxRt24

I wonder how they're/if they're going to do something like the answering machine message opening? It was always funny...

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meStevo

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Last reply 39 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Volcanic Eruptions

Continuing the Kilauea thread in the Pub here. Perhaps the Iceland one too next time there's remarkable activity.

Currently there is precursory lava flowing into the crater, leading to the next episode that'll probably start within the next day.

You can see the pace of inflation / deflation here. It serves as the primary predictor for when the expect the eruptions, which coincide w/ inflation turning into significant deflation and last for several hours on average with significant fountaining.

Monitoring Data for Kīlauea

For more information on how electronic tiltmeters and GPS receivers help monitor the deformation of Kīlauea volcano, see the HVO Deformation page.

www.usgs.gov

View: https://youtu.be/Uecu2seh4b4

Wife and I like the AfarTV feeds, for the discussion along w/ them, though they're otherwise just mirrors of the official USGS feeds.

View: https://youtu.be/iws3rh5vLAQ

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Foxbat

Oct 17, 2026

Kīlauea seems to be returning to the "normal" eruption script, impressive fountaining from the North Vent. For once, the V2 Cam has the best overall shot:

The lava flows have covered a good portion of the Halemaʻumaʻu crater floor.

Foxbat

Oct 17, 2026

Looks like Episode 55 is over at 09:00 HST, just under six hours. The USGS said the fountains reached 720' or 220 meters.

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Foxbat

Tuesday at 10:25 AM

The USGS Kīlaeua Webcam #1 has been showing overflows and doming from the North vent overnight. Maybe the volcanic plumbing has settled back into its two-three week cycle of fountaining?

But I do miss the little cinder cone that broke up in the last episode.

Foxbat

Yesterday at 5:43 PM

Sorry, I should have posted these earlier:

We're still waiting on the start of Episode 56.

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Foxbat

39 minutes ago

At 08:01 HST 11/05/2026, the North Vent produced what I would call a "wet burp" after the precursory "pistoning" events, small amounts of lava pouring out of the vent for a few seconds to minutes and then everything recedes. There must have been a gas bubble holding thing back because two minutes later the lava started flowing out of the vent in all directions. Then, at 08:25, it stopped. What a tease! I thought this was how Episode 56 started.

About 12 minutes later at 08:38, the North vent once again started overflowing and picked up steam at 08:42. By 09:00, slight doming could be seen in the pool of lava in the vent. Surely this is it!

But, 09:50 and things wind down again. By 09:57 HST there's just fumes coming out of the vent. Phooey.

But then 10:00 comes and the heavy lava flows kick in again. This time seems like the real deal. At 10:30 HST there's little spurts of lava flying up in the air over the vent, but more from gas than a steady fountain of lava. This looks promising!

11:30 HST and the color of the lava is definitely hotter, and the intensity has picked up to a definite dome and precursor to fountaining. The USGS calls Episode 56 as officially starting at 12:10 HST:

Alert Level: WATCH, Color Code: ORANGE 2026-11-05 22:29:12 UTC
HVO/USGS Volcanic Activity Notice

Volcano: Kilauea (VNUM #332010)

Current Volcano Alert Level: WATCH
Current Aviation Color Code: ORANGE

Issued: Thursday, November 5, 2026, 12:29 PM HST
Source: Hawaiian Volcano Observatory
Notice Number: 2026/H514
Location: N 19 deg 25 min W 155 deg 17 min
Elevation: 4091 ft (1247 m)
Area: Hawaii

Summary: Episode 56 of the ongoing Halemaʻumaʻu eruption began at 12:10 PM HST on November 5, 2026.

Volcanic Activity:
Episode 56 of lava fountaining in Halemaʻumaʻu began at the summit of Kīlauea began at 12:10 PM HST on November 5, 2026.

Lava fountain heights are relatively low at about 100 ft (30 meters), but will likely increase. Ground-level sensors near the eruptive vents indicate that winds are blowing from the northeast direction, which suggests that volcanic gas emissions and volcanic material may be distributed to the southwest direction from Halemaʻumaʻu.

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osu1991

Pub Member / Supporter

Today at 5:23 PM · posted in Movie Talk

The Man With The Bag (2026) Prime

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December 2, 2026

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osu1991

Pub Member / Supporter

Today at 5:20 PM · posted in Movie Talk

Bad Day - Netflix

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Dec 11, 2026 Netflix

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MorCowbell

Last reply Today at 4:49 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Saved OTA list on Dish can't be appended

I have Dish with Hopper3. I choose to get local channels OTA and had a "guide list" established at my previous home. Having moved a few miles away, I wanted to update the list by appending a couple new stations via a rescan. As many would know, some stations come in with the UHF/VHF antenna aimed in one direction, while others come in better with a different direction.

Unfortunately, when a scan is done (bringing in 25-30 stations for that particular antenna aim), the dialog screen does not present the established guide list; it presents an empty field to the right that the scanned stations may be selected one by one and added to the empty guide. But because of antenna aim, some stations originally saved are missing, and would have to be retrieved with a different antenna aim. But as I explain, if a 2nd scan is done with a different antenna aim, the stations saved from the first scan are lost.

It troubles me that Dish didn't develop software that would allow a user to simply append only 1 or 2 channels to the established list.

Any thought on this? Has anyone experienced this or heard of this from others?

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dishstaller

Tuesday at 9:42 PM

I could very well be wrong....it has been a LOT of years but back when I had a 722K it seemed like when you went back to the scan screen that you could just scan again and it would ADD those channels to the previous list or you could delete the previous results and only add the channels from the new scan.

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n0qcu

Yesterday at 10:41 AM

dishstaller said:
I could very well be wrong....it has been a LOT of years but back when I had a 722K it seemed like when you went back to the scan screen that you could just scan again and it would ADD those channels to the previous list or you could delete the previous results and only add the channels from the new scan.

I am not sure about that but I do know that you could manually add additional channels just by entering the actual RF channel number and the older receivers would add the virtual channels to your list

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dishstaller

Yesterday at 11:11 AM

n0qcu said:
I am not sure about that but I do know that you could manually add additional channels just by entering the actual RF channel number and the older receivers would add the virtual channels to your list

Like I said.....that has been many years ago. Swapped my 722K for a Hopper in 2012.

It does seem like I remember having to delete the existing channels when we did a rescan. Back then our local stations KEPT monkeying around with things and it was non-stop complaints from customers about their channels not coming in. Got so bad that I stopped selling OR installing OTAs....something I had been doing since 1984 so you know it HAD to be pretty bad.

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MorCowbell

Today at 10:06 AM

You made one of my points for me with this comment, Dishstaller:

"... local stations KEPT monkeying around with things and it was non-stop complaints from customers about their channels not coming in ..."

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dennispap

Today at 4:08 PM

dishstaller said:
I could very well be wrong....it has been a LOT of years but back when I had a 722K it seemed like when you went back to the scan screen that you could just scan again and it would ADD those channels to the previous list or you could delete the previous results and only add the channels from the new scan.

I remember that also on my 722.

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dishstaller

Today at 4:48 PM

dennispap said:
I remember that also on my 722.

Thanks.....has been too many years to remember clearly.

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Bobby

Today at 4:49 PM

Keep in mind that the 722 had a built in OTA tuner and the 722K had a plug in module for OTA. The Hoppers and Wallys use an add on USB OTA dongle. I believe they are entirely different.

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Linus Tech Tips

Today at 4:42 PM · posted in Linus Tech Tips

My F-You To Sam Altman

Time for another AWESOME video from Linus Tech Tips!

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Direct YouTube Link - My F-You To Sam Altman
Linus on Facebook
The LTT Store

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TWiT Tech Podcast Network

Today at 4:42 PM · posted in TWiT Tech Podcast Network

watchOS 27.3 Beta - Siri Recap and Live Rewind Coming!

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!

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osu1991

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Last reply Today at 3:41 PM · posted in TV Shows

Marvel Television’s VisionQuest

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Oct 14 Disney+

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osu1991

Oct 14, 2026

Finished the 2nd episode tonight. I'm really liking it so far.

Still hate weekly releases though, especially the way Disney and HBO do it waiting until 8pm to premiere it.

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Foxbat

Oct 28, 2026

Apparently I'm not a big enough nerd

since I did not read every Marvel Comic Book ever published. If I had, I might be comparing the comics' version of events compared to what's transpiring in "Visionquest". So, I am enjoying the series a lot, not weighed down by previous expectations, knowing only the Avengers MCU movies and the "Wandavision" / "Agatha All Along" TV series.

I found the Mr Know-it-All channel from his discussion about "Star Trek: Strange New Worlds" and he's been gleefully picking these episodes apart, referencing the Marvel comics from the 1939 on. Turns out A.I. has been around since before World War II, at least in the comics. (Robots before that, yes, yes.) This show is going back into the archives.

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Foxbat

Today at 1:32 PM

I'm expecting the finale to basically bring Vision into play for the Doomsday movie next month.

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osu1991

Today at 2:06 PM

annoying they went with single episodes for the last two after releasing two a week for the first 3 weeks

Foxbat

Today at 3:41 PM

osu1991 said:
annoying they went with single episodes for the last two after releasing two a week for the first 3 weeks

I thought they were effectively releasing a longer episode 7 and 8 instead of shorter episodes 7 & 8 this week and 9 & 10 next week. It felt like they were packing more into this episode.

edit: But you're right, the run time of the first three pairs of episodes was 100 minutes on average. Episode 7 clocks in at 65 minutes.

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Scott Greczkowski

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge

Last reply Today at 3:33 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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I Can't Wait - Nu Shooz

gms49ers

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Shooz - Styx

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Today at 1:54 PM

Too Much Time on My Hands - Styx

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No Time - The Guess Who

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Scott Greczkowski

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge

Last reply Today at 2:51 PM · posted in DIRECTV General Forum

New Gemini Box

The following is from Reddit. -
View: https://www.reddit.com/r/DirectvStream/s/orzHBkmqQW

There appears to be a new DIRECTV Gemini OTT box, the C81KW-650.

The FCC listing is partially available, and a Geekbench entry confirms it uses an Amlogic S905X5, a solid SoC for a set-top box.

I also see 4GB of RAM, and the manufacturer is SEI Robotics.

DIRECTV C81KW OTT Box - Android TV Guide

Ok found a picture of the Box too on Reddit:

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/DirectvStream/comments/1twlex0/comment/opzeqi1/

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Scott Greczkowski

Oct 23, 2026

I know a few people who have gotten one and I am told like most modern streaming boxes this one also has HDR on all the time.

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Tom Speer

Oct 23, 2026

Scott Greczkowski said:
I know a few people who have gotten one and I am told like most modern streaming boxes this one also has HDR on all the time.

I only noticed that as a problem on TVs that handle HDR poorly. They don't have enough peak brightness or enough dimming zones. For instance, TCL makes three lines of TV, sort of like the old Sears model of Good, Better, Best. On my 4 or 5 year end low price model, HDR looked awful (My neighbor likes the TV now). The midrange model from the next model year ithat I have at my Lake home now looks pretty good in HDR all the time. The midrange TCL QM7 model from last year at my other home looks spectacular, as I remember. I haven't seen it for 6 months.

If I had a TV that does HDR poorly, I would configure the Gemini to disable all HDR.

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b4pjoe

Oct 23, 2026

Tom Speer said:
I only noticed that as a problem on TVs that handle HDR poorly. They don't have enough peak brightness or enough dimming zones. For instance, TCL makes three lines of TV, sort of like the old Sears model of Good, Better, Best. On my 4 or 5 year end low price mode, HDR looked awful (My neighbor likes the TV now). The midrannge model from the next model year ithat I have at my Lake home now looks pretty good in HDR all the time. The midrange TCL QM7 model from last year at my other home looks spectacular, as I remember. I haven't seen it for 6 months.

If I had a TV that does HDR poorly, I would configure the Gemini to disble all HDR.

I agree with that. The 2 LGs that we have Gemini's on looks far better with HDR enabled then it does with HDR off.

robjlevin

Oct 24, 2026

Scott Greczkowski said:
I know a few people who have gotten one and I am told like most modern streaming boxes this one also has HDR on all the time.

That would be a deal-breaker for me. The Rokus default to having it on all the time but it's easy enough to change that to native. If the content is HDR it goes on. Otherwise, no.

Redbullsnation

Today at 2:43 PM

I don't mind HDR being on as long as its adaptive. I don't need HDR on non-HDR content

Also, God only knows how much it'll cost to get this per month. 10 bucks a month for 3 TVs in my apartment is not worth it if I can just use my android boxes and appletv to watch

b4pjoe

Today at 2:51 PM

Redbullsnation said:
I don't mind HDR being on as long as its adaptive. I don't need HDR on non-HDR content

Also, God only knows how much it'll cost to get this per month. 10 bucks a month for 3 TVs in my apartment is not worth it if I can just use my android boxes and appletv to watch

It is not adaptive. HDR is either always on or off. No in between. However with my Gemini on satellite everything looks much better with HDR on.

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