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How long to backup?

I ordered a usb 3.0 backup on Amazon tonight. I understand that the Hopper 2 isn't able to do usb 3.0 speeds but what am I looking at for the amount of time to back up the Hopper 2 that is almost completely full? Thank you for your help.
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Almighty1
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Thanks bobvick, the cpu is only part of the equation, is the H1 a single core CPU since it's how efficient each Mhz is as well just like AMD vs Intel CPUs on the desktop platform. The other thing is the RAM, the H1 has 768MB, the HWS has 2GB which is basically 2.6x that of the H1. There is no spec sheet for the H3 so no idea how much RAM it has but based on the link you provided, the H3 is a quad core CPU which means it's 1.5Ghz per core or 6.0Ghz in processing power in total. H2 is dual core 1.3Ghz so it's more like 2.6Ghz when added up. The other thing that comes into play is whether some of them are 64 bit vs 32 bit.
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Almighty1 said:
Thanks bobvick, the cpu is only part of the equation, is the H1 a single core CPU since it's how efficient each Mhz is as well just like AMD vs Intel CPUs on the desktop platform. The other thing is the RAM, the H1 has 768MB, the HWS has 2GB which is basically 2.6x that of the H1. There is no spec sheet for the H3 so no idea how much RAM it has but based on the link you provided, the H3 is a quad core CPU which means it's 1.5Ghz per core or 6.0Ghz in processing power in total. H2 is dual core 1.3Ghz so it's more like 2.6Ghz when added up. The other thing that comes into play is whether some of them are 64 bit vs 32 bit.
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Architecture is a big part of it too.

The non-4K Hopper/Joey SoCs use MIPS based CPUs. The 4K units are both ARM based. At the same clock speed an ARM cpu will probably be 1.5x to 2x faster than a MIPS unit for most real world tasks.
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Almighty1
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JM42 said:
Architecture is a big part of it too.

The non-4K Hopper/Joey SoCs use MIPS based CPUs. The 4K units are both ARM based. At the same clock speed an ARM cpu will probably be 1.5x to 2x faster than a MIPS unit for most real world tasks.
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Forgot about that part too since it's like RISC and CISC processors. The PowerPC which were RISC were faster than the x86 CISC counterparts. I know for example, the nVidia Tegra which I think is 1.2Ghz Dual Core in my Motorola XOOM Tablet seems to be faster and more powerful than the 64bit Qualcomm Snapdragon 808 6 core underclocked (4x1.8Ghz + 2x1.4Ghz) as running the same exact apps, the phones would crap out after 300 apps in which Google Play Store would hang on downloads and installing but the Xoom acts like it has nothing loaded on it.
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It's not as simple as RISC or CISC or clock speed. MIPS and ARM are both RISC platforms. An intel Atom (CISC) at the same clock will approximate ARM performance. An intel desktop processor at the same clock will put any of the embedded CPUs to shame.
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It all depends on how well things are implemented and remember this is Broadcom we're talking about since it's really how efficient each mhz is that really counts.
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Almighty1
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In case anyone is interested...

This is how the Hopper 2000 partitions the 2TB EHD as seen in MiniTool Partition Wizard, it basically partitions it as a 1.00GB partition with ext3fs, then for the first 1TB, it will do 500GB sized partitions using ext3fs. Then the rest of the drive is under some other type of fs that is not ext3fs:

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And cloning the same EHD to another 2TB EHD on the desktop using Macrium Reflect x64 Server Plus Edition v6.1.1023 under Windows 10 Enterprise Edition x64 v1511 Build 10586.104 using USB v2.0 ports for both drives with forensic sector copy so it will copy all sectors whether it has data or not, I only had one USB v3.0 but did not use it:

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The clone completed time is wrong as it seems to be for the 4th partition only. The other partitions were around 3.75 hours each so it took around 15.83 hours or 15 hours and 50 minutes in total.

Forgot to mention that the original recordings from the Hopper 2000 were done on a Samsung 850Pro 2TB SSD using the ThermalTake BlackX ST0005U-C 2.5"/3.5" Hard Drive Docking Station and cloned to the Western Digital MyBook 2TB's Western Digital WD20EZRX Green Edition 2TB Hard Drive without using the MyBook's enclosure and using the UNITEK Model #Y-3322A USB3.0 to IDE+SATA Converter with ON/OFF Switch as all WD enclosures has it's own encryption applied which requires a enclosure with the same controller board and firmware version, this way I cloned the raw data without the encryption from the WD enclosure so that I can take the drive and use it with any USB 2.0/3.0 to SATA converter/bridge I want without issues.

More info about Western Digital External Drives having encryption here:
http://www.zdnet.com/article/the-self-encrypting-drive-you-may-already-own/

All the drives work fine on the Hopper 2 regardless if it's with the WD Enclosure, the UNITEK or the ThermalTake functioning as the USB 3.0 to SATA Converter/Bridge. However, only the UNITEK works on the Hopper 3 as not all recordings will show up on the Hopper 3 when using the MyBook or ThermalTake and playback will not work as it results in the following error:

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So it appears Hopper 3 software vU303 if not earlier (I never tried it on U301) has a compatibility problem with certain USB to SATA Bridge/Converter chipsets as I know that even WD MyBook's with the same model # can have different chipsets and controller boards since I have atleast 1/2 dozen of each make/model drives for free evaluation models as I own/run a Internet Service Provider. DISH has not been able to fix this and they do not even have this error in their database so it's being sent to Operations/Engineering for a remedy before I found the solution of trying out different USB to SATA Converter/Bridges. More info is posted here about the problem:
http://www.satelliteguys.us/xen/thr...on-hopper-3-recorded-with-hopper-2000.357861/
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AI Hiking Advice Nearly Turns Deadly on Mount Shasta #shorts

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Google's AI Ultimatum for Schools

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Religious Exemption from Using AI?

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The Binance Crypto Heist

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Dish Bankruptcy - Business as Usual

Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
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Scott Greczkowski
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nelson61 said:
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SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
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Can't remember where or who I saw predict this. :D

It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.
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Bruce
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Scott Greczkowski said:
It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.
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Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.
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Bruce said:
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.
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I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.
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Scott Greczkowski said:
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.
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Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.
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SpaceX boldly goes into 'huge' 5G network rollout with Qualcomm

After trying satellites and small cells, Elon Musk's SpaceX is to build a terrestrial mobile network across tens of thousands of sites with Qualcomm.
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nelson61 said:
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SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
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If Musk really wants to buy Boost, he might get a great price once Dish Wireless is out of Chapter 11.

Boost just lost 182,000 subs in the 3rd quarter-

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Is Dish like Iran in one way...they both will totally collapse by end of week :)
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Other than the price, my experience with Boost is not that different than what I experienced with my years with Cricket. I will be curious to see what happens if SpaceX takes the reins.
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Bruce said:
Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.
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dish has new sats dtv does not
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Scott Greczkowski
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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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I think we could all use a laugh - Rodney Dangerfield on Carson

Good...simple humor. Enjoy


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E92AtfTLge4

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Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.
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I loved it when Rodney was on the Tonight Show...
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dishstaller said:
Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.
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Thanks, I wasn't sure if you had the wrong Subject or the wrong YouTube link.
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Was a Don Rickles fan. I've dvr'd most of his appearances on Carson from the antenna tv replays.

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More Dangerfield rapid fire on Carson.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scEQFHQHHhU
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Rodney Dangerfield is great. One of his best one liners - "My wife likes to talk to me during sex, last night she called me from Florida!"

Jackie Gleason is another one of the greats.


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Godzilla Minus Zero


View: https://youtu.be/n-NDYWPXpKg?si=hcI4ueMkFCreZ8Qq
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dfergie said:

View: https://youtu.be/n-NDYWPXpKg?si=hcI4ueMkFCreZ8Qq
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Wait, didn't this one come out a few years ago? It was all in Japanese. It was also VERY good!

OK, looked it up, that was Godzilla Minus One
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primestar31 said:
Wait, didn't this one come out a few years ago? It was all in Japanese. It was also VERY good!

OK, looked it up, that was Godzilla Minus One
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At theaters, only in Japanese, on Disc and Netflix, available in English.
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New trailer has dropped:
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Looks good! I'm interested...
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