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TexRedNK
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Hey Guys, Been a while since I posted. I did not find a similar post for the FS1 and DTV dishes.
This Spring I found a great sale on a 50 inch flat screen smart (Roku) TV that was under $400 before taxes.
So wife agreed it was time to make the big leap and move up from SD tv to HD TV !

Now I am trying to use my F S meter to align the SL3 SWM dish. Searching the 'net, I found a link on the F S site to the custom parameters that I need to load into my meter for sats at 99,101,& 103. Some say I only need to look at sat 101 and do the peaking by the 'dither method'. I understand that the two Ka sats at 99 and 103 have a very
narrow window. Aprox 1 degree as compared to the Ku sat with nearly 3-5 degrees.

On the F S website, they claim I need to use DTVs alignment tool "ASL-1" which I see is no longer in stock on Amazon. eBay has two sellers as of this date. When I try to use the SWM DC pass thru splitter with the DTV power insertion module, the other port is a direct short to the power coming from the meter.

Bottom line: I have not been able to get any reliable reading from sat 101, regardless If I use the PI and splitter method, or if I try to power the SWM LNB directly from the F S meter.

F S link to aligning DTV: and using a DC pass thu splitter
http://firststrikemeters.com/fs-support/fs1-frequently-asked-questions/#asl-1

Known DSS transponders:
http://firststrikemeters.com/fs-support/confirmed-dss/

DirecTV 4S/8 at 101.0W
  • 12355/20000/18 FS1 shows S/Q, does not show LOCKED
  • 12428/20000/13 FS1 shows S/Q, does not show LOCKED
  • 12501/20000/18 FS1 shows S/Q, does not show LOCKED
  • 12545/20000/13 FS1 shows S/Q, does not show LOCKED
That is about all I have found to date.
I did contact the seller on eBay about the ASL-1 splitter and if I could use it on the sats 99 or 103 and he
replied that It only would work with sat 119.

Ok, that is about it. My main goal is to be able to get a quality signal on sat 101 so I can perform DTVs
"dither method' of peaking my slimeline SL3 dish.

Regards, Doug
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TexRedNK
OK Raine, Have you used your FS1 to set up any of the FTA sats ? I keep my dish parked on sat 92 W, to watch the two back hauls from ABC. And yes, all the SD transponders for the older 18 inch dishes was circular polarized. But the new Ka sats are higher frequencys and and are listed as either Odd or Even. Guys, keep reading... I know someone here has the answer that will let me use my F S FS1 to align my HD Slimline3S dish on the three sats, 99W 101W and 103W.
Cheers Doug
. Raine
Yes, I've used it on FTA sats many times, real simple for those. You probably already know how to do it, but I'll run through the procedure of it.

Turn the meter on and then push the Option/Local button, you should see a arrow next to the L: slot at the left side of the screen, there you enter what sat you're working with, 95W, 121W, etc.

Push option/local again and the arrow moves down to the F: slot, there you enter the transponder you want.

Push option/local, SR: here you enter the symbol rate.

Push option/local, arrow moves to LO: here you enter the LNB Lo.

Push option/local, arrow moves to LNB: here you can select your LNB voltage, either 13V for vertical, 18V for horizontal, or blank for no power supplied from the meter. The arrows buttons next to the option/local button cycle through these options.

Push option/local again and the arrow moves down to 22KHz: Here you can select 22 KHz on or off. Use the arrow buttons to select.

Push option/local again and the arrow moves all the way down to the lower left hand corner box with the list number for the satellite in the meter. Once here, you can push the save/c button and it'll save what you inputted to that sat slot/number in the meter, or if you push any of the number buttons, the meter will come on so you can see your signal and quality readings and actively use it. Hitting any number button again exits back out into data entry mode and you can again use the option/local button to move through the different fields if you want/need to change anything.

When I first got my FS1, I had to enter my Lat and Long settings for my location into it, if you move the arrow [using the option/local button] to the sat/slot number box at the bottom left hand corner of the screen, then push and hold the zero button for three seconds, the arrow will jump over to LONG: and you can set your lat/long settings for your area. Your azimuth, elevation and skew in the top three boxes at the top of the screen won't read right until you do this.

I don't know if the FS1 will work with Ka or not, all I've ever used mine for is C band and Ku.

With FTA, looping the meter in line [in series with the LNB and receiver] through the two F connectors on the meter, allows the meter to be powered by the receiver. [Coax from the receiver to one F connector on the meter, coax form the LNB to the other F connector] Handy if your battery dies, maybe useful in your situation with the Direct stuff, to let the receiver power everything? Don't know for sure.

I found a few things on First Strike's website that might be helpful, maybe.

fs1-powerpass.jpg using a high frequency splitter to power multi-head LNBFs

asl-1_diagram.jpg Aligning DirecTv dishes

Those were from here: http://www.firststrikemeters.com/fs-support/fs1-frequently-asked-questions/
TexRedNK
Ok Guys I have done some more research. I built a short RG6 jumper and opened the shield in the middle and cut the copper center conductor and brought it up and away from the shield. I then soldered a dipped silver mica 5000 pf cap onto the two leads. This will allow me to connect my FS1 meter onto the SWM 2 way splitter that Raine posted in his post above. Now the meter is not shorted out by the output of the 2 way splitter.
When I tested it at the location of the SL3S dish,with the DTV PS on the pass thru side, I did get a 2% quality reading on one satellite.
This leads me to think that I do not have the correct data loaded in the meter.
The ones posted on the FS1 meter site did not work on my meter. I did read of the FTA ABC sat at 91 W and loaded them into my FS1 meter and got 100% quality reading on the meter, so I am confident that the meter works when the correct data is loaded.

NOW: Can anyone send me the link or post the Down Link frequency, Symbol Rate, and the Local Osc frequency for the DTV satellite at 101 W.

Anxiously waiting, Doug
. Raine
It looks like Lyngsat might have it:

http://www.lyngsat.com/SES-1-and-DirecTV-4S-8.html
TexRedNK
Well guys, time to close this link !! I did another site survey after seeing that a neighbors tree was imposing on my view of the three HD DTV satellites. I moved to the car port on the opposite corner from my FTA dish. I attached the mount to the square metal post with straps and 4 inch 1/4 bolts. Plumbed the vertical and then put two sheet metal screws to stabilize any sideways movement.
Then I powered up the LNB with the power inserter with a power pass thru splitter and my DC blocking cable and FS-1 meter attached to the receiver output side of the splitter. I tested with the four TPs listed on the FS-1 site for know active TPs.
Of the four listed for 101 W, the 2nd hit nearly full scale on the Quality Bar. I continued to peak in elevation and azimuth settings with the FS-1 meter. I locked the dish down and connected to the IRD receiver. I ran thru the 101 W signal strength reading. PRESTO ! All the readings were in the 90 to 100 % values. Now the critical bird at 99 W. All were in the 80s to high 90s !.. All the other signals on the 103 W bird were great.
I have posted some pics to show the hook up and the DC blocking cable and readings on the FS-1 meter. My cell phone lacks some clarity, but I was getting nearly 100 % Quality signals.
Thanks again to all that commented. To Raine: I will try some other down link frequencys and other TPs and look for readings. I am using S/R or 20000 and LO of 11250. If you have any other values, please pass then to me.
Thanks again to all ! Regards, Doug .
PS: I may have a glitch with the pics. I will try to delete the duplicates.
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Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
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Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
But.....if you like Tulsa King....looks like you would probably like this as well. I don't mind spin-offs as long as they don't involve a sassy niece who moves from the big city :rolleyes:
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I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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Not alot of dish customers any more
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I'm not a big fan of the new layout, especially on my Apple TV. It used to look like the old Guide layout on the Hopper 3, but they changed parts of that, too.
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I really dislike change for the sake of change
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Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Jimbo

Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
Jimbo
Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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Would you rather have LaRoche ???
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
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No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.

It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.
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Might be worth a watch when it comes out. Looks like typical big corp against the little guy movie BUT....there is a reason this plot type is so oft repeated, it draws audiences.


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dishstaller
BTW, I noticed right after I posted this that someone else had already mentioned it....sorry for the duplicate thread. Still looking forward to seeing the movie.
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If you're going try to read / listen to the book (can't recommend the audio book enough) before this comes out, I'd avoid trailers.

Trailer below, spoiling it to make sure you read the above bold message first. The book / audio book are fantastic. Go into this blind if you can IMO!




Kind of disappointed at how much they show. A lot still to see, but man, some good reveals in the book that are just served up here.
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I've seen it twice. Can't recommend the audio book enough, Ray Porter's performance is amazing and there's so much more in the book than the movie.
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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
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Forgot to comment. I did watch when it first came out on MGM. I enjoyed it a lot. I think reading the book made it easier to watch. Several friends commented it was a little hard to follow.
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"astrophage". I read the book but didn't see the film yet.
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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
That's what I will be watching this weekend.🤗
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Kindle book on sale for $2.99 today at Amazon.
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.........there's so much more in the book than the movie.
I agree. That can go for pretty much any book vs movie. Back when I was single I would read any Stephen King or John Grisham book I could get my hands on. When you read a book you make up the scenes and characters in your mind.....the movie version always disappoints.
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
A big win for the Patriots, and they are now 3-2.

Browns lose a close one with... The Jets. That is a classic Browns loss (granted, any loss is a classic one it seems). 49'ers, Vikings, and Chiefs remain undefeated. The AFC north have a three way tie at 3-2 for second place. :eek:
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
After having experienced Gus Ferguson trying to call soccer games, I'm uncertain why NFL football analysts get hate. Even the "worst" of them are pretty good.
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Jalen Hurts out indefinitely as they treat and monitor a superficial blood clot in his leg.


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I had quit watching this show years ago because I ended up more annoyed than entertained. Well......I'm STILL more annoyed than entertained. I DO find it interesting to see how things work behind the scenes at many businesses. What annoys me is how utterly out of touch CEOs are with the companies they run. At the end of almost every episode the head of the company is amazed at how hard the employees have to work and many times have to work around impossible guidelines set forth from headquarters.

I found this one interesting because the new CEO had big plans for this company, Muscle Maker Grill, and it looked like the stores were all pretty busy. Recent history hasn't been good to this company however. I bet the covid lockdowns were the real killer.


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