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Last reply Nov 30, 2016 · posted in DIRECTV General Forum

Considering buying an HR54 but need help

Hi, Our current configuration is a whole home setup with a Genie HR34 (that is starting to die, hard drive freezes often), a C32 Genie Mini in another room and an older HR22 (our most reliable) DVR in a third room.

First, I've heard there might be some reasonable diagnostics I could try on the sporadically freezing HR34?? Thoughts???

Second, when our home system was set up two years ago, the installer put in an 8 channel SWM capability if I recall. The HR34 uses 5 inputs and the HR22 uses 2, again, if I recall.

If I want to go buy an HR54 from a third party (since Directv might well send me another old HR34 or I've heard likely an HR44 at best) can I do so, meaning will Directv let me do my own replacement and send them back their HR34 if they want it??? I understand the HR54 would be considered a "rental" and I would of course have to pay its sticker price but whatever. Am I allowed to do that??? If I want to ensure I get an HR54??? Just newest hardware is my idea not that that is always the best.

And can I even hook up an HR54 (heard that it uses 7 SWM channels???) along with my older HR22 that uses 2, for a total of 9 but with only SWM capability of 8?? Would it work but would just be short one recordable input or would it not work at all???

And if changes are required, are those only in-house changes or would there need to be upgrades to the LNB on the dish??

Last, does a C31 Genie mini work with an HR54 or does it need to be replaced as well (C61?)

Lots of questions there... Any help on any or all would be much appreciated... thanks...

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jcrandall

Nov 28, 2016

Any chance you own a 4k TV and could ask for the free 4k upgrade (an HR54 and appropriate LNB)?

If you go through a retailer you would buy a HR54, and should upgrade your LNB and eliminate the SWM8. The new RB LNB is over 20 tuners, and there is also a 13 tuner LNB that is not reverse band. Either way well over 8.
You would swap the LNB, eliminate the SWM8, and go to using only 1 wire into the house instead of 4.

Buying the HR54 will trigger a new two year commitment.

The C31 will likely work a ton better on a HR54. It is the HR34 that is the problem, it is very unreliable and slow compared to the newer Genie's.
If a tech comes out to install the HR54 there is a good chance they would replace the C31 with a C51 or C61 to allow the new remote style and to match the new Genie. (C31 used the original remote like the HR34 did).

If you solely want to do it yourself, and not access the roof, I'm not sure if the Genie will need all 7 tuners as it wouldn't have reverse band, it may only need the regular 5, meaning you could likely stay with the SWM 8.

texasbrit

Nov 28, 2016

First, why do you want an HR54 instead of an HR44? the only real difference is that the Hr54 can support, via the C61K or using a directv 4K compatible RVU, 4K live transmissions. The extra two tuners (seven vs five) are not usable as regular tuners, they are only there for 4K, and you would need a reverse band LNB to use them, whenever DirecTV starts to use the reverse band for 4K. The Hr54 and HR44 have the same disk size, same speed processors etc The HR54 will only take five of your tuner slots, unless you go to 4K when it will eventually take seven, but then you will have the reverse band LNB which supports 13 tuners anyway.
And just FYI, there are now regular SWM LNBs that support 13 tuners also, if you need the extra tuners at some point.

If you are entitled to a 4K upgrade, and you already have a 4K TV (important!), you can get the HR54 and C61K as a free upgrade from your existing system. If you can't get that upgrade, IMHO you would be better off calling DirecTV, tell them your HR34 has a hard drive issue, sometimes won't even power on, and getting a replacement. 99% probability you will get an HR44. If you get an HR34, send it back, say the picture is pixelating or something.

And the C31 works fine with the HR54 (I have one).

diitto

Nov 28, 2016

jcrandall said:
Any chance you own a 4k TV and could ask for the free 4k upgrade (an HR54 and appropriate LNB)?

If you go through a retailer you would buy a HR54, and should upgrade your LNB and eliminate the SWM8. The new RB LNB is over 20 tuners, and there is also a 13 tuner LNB that is not reverse band. Either way well over 8.
You would swap the LNB, eliminate the SWM8, and go to using only 1 wire into the house instead of 4.

Buying the HR54 will trigger a new two year commitment.

The C31 will likely work a ton better on a HR54. It is the HR34 that is the problem, it is very unreliable and slow compared to the newer Genie's.
If a tech comes out to install the HR54 there is a good chance they would replace the C31 with a C51 or C61 to allow the new remote style and to match the new Genie. (C31 used the original remote like the HR34 did).

If you solely want to do it yourself, and not access the roof, I'm not sure if the Genie will need all 7 tuners as it wouldn't have reverse band, it may only need the regular 5, meaning you could likely stay with the SWM 8.

YES, we DO own a 4k TV. Bought a Samsung 65 inch last year that is 4k capable. Can you please say more about what you mean by "ask for the free 4k upgrade (an HR54 and appropriate LNB)?"

And can you say more about the meaning of "reverse band"??? Or maybe point me to a discussion of the LNB design?? I am a retired EE but not a Satellite expert by any means... I know just enough to be dangerous... sigh... thanks...

diitto

Nov 28, 2016

texasbrit said:
First, why do you want an HR54 instead of an HR44? the only real difference is that the Hr54 can support, via the C61K or using a directv 4K compatible RVU, 4K live transmissions. The extra two tuners (seven vs five) are not usable as regular tuners, they are only there for 4K, and you would need a reverse band LNB to use them, whenever DirecTV starts to use the reverse band for 4K. The Hr54 and HR44 have the same disk size, same speed processors etc The HR54 will only take five of your tuner slots, unless you go to 4K when it will eventually take seven, but then you will have the reverse band LNB which supports 13 tuners anyway.
And just FYI, there are now regular SWM LNBs that support 13 tuners also, if you need the extra tuners at some point.

If you are entitled to a 4K upgrade, and you already have a 4K TV (important!), you can get the HR54 and C61K as a free upgrade from your existing system. If you can't get that upgrade, IMHO you would be better off calling DirecTV, tell them your HR34 has a hard drive issue, sometimes won't even power on, and getting a replacement. 99% probability you will get an HR44. If you get an HR34, send it back, say the picture is pixelating or something.

And the C31 works fine with the HR54 (I have one).

Good question about why I might want a new HR54?? Not at all sure that I do. Just tossed that out as a way to ask and learn and yes, granted, it is the newest hardware and quite honestly I am just trying to get away from the HR34. Though I've heard it is not likely they would send me another HR34, I know they still can and if they did I would consider that quite a frustrating lack of moving forward. I was frustrated when they gave us the HR34 TWO YEARS ago as the HR44 was well out and about by that time. So buying my own HR54 (or at least "renting" one) would simply be my way of trying to get moving forward rather than hanging out with old, poorly operating hardware.

We have a fairly extensive programming package (our choice) and with what I pay them each month, I would almost guess I buy a new DVR almost every month. Just frustrating that I would have to play the "maybe you'll get another old piece of hardware, maybe you won't" if I just call them up and say my HR34 is clearly dying.

So again, if you, too, could say more about this "free upgrade if we have a 4k tv??" We bought a higher end Samsung a year plus ago with that capability not with a current plant to use it (lack of folks broadcasting in 4k) but we chose to have the option. More on this upgrade potential???

And good to know that you have experience with the C31 working with an HR54 cause that's what we have for our one mini, a C31-700. What is better with the 51 or 61??

jcrandall

Nov 28, 2016

diitto said:
YES, we DO own a 4k TV. Bought a Samsung 65 inch last year that is 4k capable. Can you please say more about what you mean by "ask for the free 4k upgrade (an HR54 and appropriate LNB)?"

And can you say more about the meaning of "reverse band"??? Or maybe point me to a discussion of the LNB design?? I am a retired EE but not a Satellite expert by any means... I know just enough to be dangerous... sigh... thanks...

4K programming will be a reverse band transmission from the satellite to the LNB. Don't know the specifics beyond that, but it is still from 99/103.

The new LNB for 4k is a reverse band slimline, same dish, upgraded LNB.

I would call for a 4K upgrade. It is free with a new 2 year commitment in most cases. You will get upgraded to the HR54, a C61k client, and the new LNB.
Coming from the HR34 and C31, this is a good upgrade, even if you don't use the 4k programming (I did this upgrade and moved back to the Xtra package as there isn't much 4k yet).
4K requires the Ultimate package, but you can change after it is installed if you decide not to keep the 4K programming (currently 1 channel 24/7) full time.

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Claude Greiner

Nov 29, 2016

First of all, get an HR54. No point in taking an Hr 44 if you don't have to.

If you go through a retailer then they can upgrade you and specifically get you an HR 54

Upgrade the C31 to a c61. As long as your tv has HDMI you should be fine with the c61 as there is no composite or component output.

Get a reverse band LNB to get all 7 potential tuners.

Do not buy from a retailer online and pay any money because the box is going to be leased anyways. If your account qualifies this should be a FREE upgrade.

Only buy the leased box if you don't qualify for any upgrades through directv.

texasbrit

Nov 29, 2016

Claude, I thiunk you mean a C61K. There is also a C61 which does not support 4K. Very confusing.

Zashel

Nov 30, 2016

for the record: (our) techs are instructed to replaced genies with like-or-better. what does that mean? if a tech has a HR34 on his truck and rolls up at your house for a bad genie, your getting another HR34. if you have a hr54 and all the tech has is a HR44, the tech has to go run and find a HR54. that was a long day...

moral of the story: take the 4k upgrade if you have no plans on changing TV providers. you can usually also negotiate a discount for the first year too.

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Anony55

Last reply Yesterday at 7:40 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

DISH Has Made it Impossible to be a VIP211k Owner

For quite a while now, people with a VIP211k have been losing their recordings on their activated external HDDs... even when there's nothing physically wrong with HDD. I believe this is an intentional and underhanded tactic that Dish is pulling in an attempt to force users away from the VIP211k.

They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.

Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.

On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.

It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.

I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.

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Nebugeater

Dec 22, 2025

Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally

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tparker

Sep 30, 2026

Nebugeater said:
Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally

Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.

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Nebugeater

Oct 2, 2026

tparker said:
Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.

Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion

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Anony55

Thursday at 6:18 PM

Well, after nine months of being on pause, I finally figured out that I was wasting $5 a month. So I cancelled. For the first time since 2010, I no longer have a Dish account.

I do have to say that I did appreciate the account pause option. That just gives a person some time to see what the fallout of cancelling will be... without having to go all the way over the cliff first.

Since I never once had an "oh shoot, I need Dish Network for..." moment, the decision was a lot easier.

Funny enough, when I called to cancel (for real, not playing the pricing game), all of a sudden, they were offering me deals that I was told before that I couldn't get without changing out my VIP211k. Now, I could have had those specials with them just sending me a new card for the receiver. LOL!

Of course, my mind was already made up because of having not missed the service while on pause. That, and the fact that I bet the 211k still kills recordings.

All in all, I'm glad that I had Dish for all those years. I just outgrew the need, and they pressed the issue by deleting recordings. I would have eventually went this route without the deleted recordings issue. But, for sure, that did hasten the outcome.

I'll still pop in at this site from time to time. Believe it or not, I still have a C/Ku BUD that I intend on playing with again if life ever slows down.

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dishstaller

Yesterday at 11:31 AM

Nebugeater said:
Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion

Unless things have changed at Dish, which is entirely possible, they won't activate the 211, even as a replacement. I gave one to a customer a while back....which when I turned it off I made sure to tell the CSR I wanted it freed up so another customer could use it, I was assured it was.....and when they called to swap out there's they were told it couldn't be done. Now like I said, things MIGHT HAVE CHANGED.

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Anony55

Yesterday at 4:19 PM

dishstaller said:
Unless things have changed at Dish, which is entirely possible, they won't activate the 211, even as a replacement. I gave one to a customer a while back....which when I turned it off I made sure to tell the CSR I wanted it freed up so another customer could use it, I was assured it was.....and when they called to swap out there's they were told it couldn't be done. Now like I said, things MIGHT HAVE CHANGED.

It hasn't changed. When I cancelled my service the other day, they told me I didn't need to return the receiver (which I already knew because I purchased it).

But in addition to that, the young man told me not to sell it, but to take it to a recycling place. The reason he gave for the advice was because 211Ks can no longer be activated.

So as far as the VIP211k goes... once grandpa dies, he's dead.

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telstar_1

Yesterday at 5:37 PM

They tell you to trash it and not to sell simply because they're phasing them out, not particularly because someone might be "confused" into buying it and not be able to activate. They tell people that in every case where they're not acting to get a box back, either from a replacement or service cancel.

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Corrado

Yesterday at 7:40 PM

Although my VIP211K hasn't been subscribed or connected to a dish in probably 5 years since canceling service, my 1 TB HDD full of programming still works fine.

Upon occasion I power it up to watch something I recorded as far back as 2010. The last time I had it going in September it even let me rescan the local OTA channels which I think it refused at some earlier time. I will use it until the day it fails but this topic makes me think some software download is responsible for current subscribers.

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Has anyone subscribed to NBA League Pass for 2026-27 and try to link their account to NBA.com to stream League Pass? I purchased it for 2026-27, and when I linked, I got a message saying success, but then I receive an error that my linked subscription does not include the preseason games for NBA League Pass. Is that how it has always been? I know satellite doesn't have the preseason games on the NBA League Pass channels, but I thought that I was able to stream the preseason once I linked my account on NBA.com?

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zippyfrog

Wednesday at 4:54 AM

I found my answer...when I log into the NBA app on my phone and try to watch, it gives me a more clear answer that it acknowledges I have paid for NBA League Pass from Dish and it is linked, but I need an "upgraded" subscription to League Pass for the preseason games. So I guess it is by design that Dish does not show the preseason games on League pass and that the contract Dish has signed for league pass is explicitly for the regular season games. (I know the description for League Pass says regular season games, but I thought that was only by satellite and the preseason would have worked)

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Yesterday at 7:37 PM

I plan on doing what I did last season. I ordered the more expensive arena feed version from the NBA website. It's worth it because you get to watch what's going on in the arena instead of just staring at the ad break slide on the Dish version. The main advantage to ordering from the website is you can go on a month by month basis and cancel if you get tired of it.

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2026-27 NCAA College Football

Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.

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Yespage

Thursday at 4:57 PM

24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:

All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
- Independent of record too! Bonus.
MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
I'm out of ideas.

Cons

Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
- Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
Going to start resting players?
- The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
- Resting players could make games dumb.
- Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!

AZ.

Thursday at 5:30 PM

Yespage said:
24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:

All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff

Independent of record too! Bonus.

MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.

I'm out of ideas.

Cons

Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games

Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff

Going to start resting players?

The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!

Resting players could make games dumb.

Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.

How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!

One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.

Jimbo

Thursday at 5:47 PM

AZ. said:
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.

There are 68 Power 4 teams, so eventually they will get there I wouldn't imagine ...

AZ.

Thursday at 9:12 PM

Jimbo said:
There are 68 Power 4 teams, so eventually they will get there I wouldn't imagine ...

Far from it but you know that....You dont like the larger playoff.....Its ok.....

Jimbo

Thursday at 9:24 PM

AZ. said:
Far from it but you know that....You dont like the larger playoff.....Its ok.....

Oh, I Hate the idea ...

It would be different if it was a game that you could play 2 or games each week, but when you only play 1 game a week, the larger playoff is Not a good thing ...

The season has how many games now, is it 14 ... then you want to play another 5 (with more to come) against Top 12 (eventually 24 teams) ... remember, the 5 games in the playoffs will be the hardest games all year and back to back.

For example, IF Ohio State should win it all this year ... they play 5 teams in the Top 25, plus they would play 5 more to win it all, depending on how the ranking shake out and if Bye weeks are given.

Thats 10 Ranked teams ... in one year ...
I don't see that happening very often ...
Edit, Bama plays 4, Georgia plays 3, But Ole Miss plays 5 (didn't expect to see that)

That said, I don't see the Buckeyes winning it all this year.

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AZ.

Thursday at 9:27 PM

Jimbo said:
Oh, I Hate the idea ...

It would be different if it was a game that you could play 2 or games each week, but when you only play 1 game a week, the larger playoff is Not a good thing ...

The season has how many games now, is it 14 ... then you want to play another 5 (with more to come) against Top 12 (eventually 24 teams) ... remember, the 5 games in the playoffs will be the hardest games all year and back to back.

For example, IF Ohio State should win it all this year ... they play 5 teams in the Top 25, plus they would play 5 more to win it all, depending on how the ranking shake out and if Bye weeks are given.

Thats 10 Ranked teams ... in one year ...
I don't see that happening very often ...

That said, I don't see the Buckeyes winning it all this year.

Yes anyone here knows you 100%....Astros failed no posting...Ohio state loses we hear it.....Its ok....Its called an opinion....I have one so do you.....Problem is?

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Jimbo

Thursday at 10:07 PM

AZ. said:
Yes anyone here knows you 100%....Astros failed no posting...Ohio state loses we hear it.....Its ok....Its called an opinion....I have one so do you.....Problem is?

Seeing theres very little activity in the MLB threads, it wouldn't matter if I posted that the Astros didn't make the Playoffs ...

Theres more NFL info in the Pub section than in the Sports/NFL thread.

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Jimbo

Thursday at 10:54 PM

IF they go to 24 teams, and it looks like they will soon ....
Do we Really want Teams with 3 and 4 losses in the Playoffs ?
Is a 3-4 Loss team one thats able to win 4-5 more games against Top teams ?

Yespage

Yesterday at 10:04 AM

AZ. said:
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

A 12 team playoff net should catch any undefeated team. The 12 team playoff also exposed that rankings suck. I mean, we kind of knew already that the rankings weren't particularly reproducible, but we now have the empirical evidence that the rankings suck because judging who is the best among a mickey mouse scheduled football season isn't a rational endeavor. So the 12 team playoff ensures most teams that should make it, do, including the mid-major undefeated team. 8 teams should be able to work as well, but puts greater risk at OSU and Alabama missing the playoff... can't have that.

Which is the run up to my main problem with the 24 team set up is that it is designed to keep the OSU's and Alabama's from missing the playoff. The cartels are ensuring widespread participation for their own cartels to increase the monetary reward to themselves. It is fixing the system while not fixing the outcomes, merely making the regular season game outcomes virtually irrelevant. Sure, a bye for winning the conference would be nice, but we've already seen that byes aren't that influential.

AZ. said:
We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.

That is college football in a nutshell. Again, college football isn't about competition, it is about revenue. The entire setup is about making money, from regular season squash games against local jobbers like the WWF days to tax exempt bowl games.

And to add to the first world woes, the college football cartels have made being a College Football fan even more expensive... so they can get paid more.

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meStevo

Yesterday at 6:20 PM

Jimbo said:
Theres more NFL info in the Pub section than in the Sports/NFL thread.

Nah, you just don't understand how ignore works, which is why you made your own NFL thread thinking there wasn't one

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Last reply Yesterday at 5:37 PM · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center

Site is slooooow

For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.

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Scott Greczkowski

Thursday at 3:39 PM

Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat.

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Foxbat

Thursday at 3:42 PM

Scott Greczkowski said:
Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat.

WTF… …What the Foxbat!

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slow_poke_pete

Yesterday at 12:29 AM

Foxbat said:
WTF… …What the Foxbat!

wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you :biggrin

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Foxbat

Yesterday at 12:38 AM

slow_poke_pete said:
wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you

I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:

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slow_poke_pete

Yesterday at 6:03 AM

Foxbat said:
I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:

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OMG to freaking funny :biggrin

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comfortably_numb

Yesterday at 11:31 AM

Foxbat said:
I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:

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Not likely since that place closed down.

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Foxbat

Yesterday at 5:37 PM

comfortably_numb said:
Not likely since that place closed down.

You're no fun.

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Therm

Last reply Yesterday at 4:01 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Am I the only one that hates what Dish did to their mobile app?

I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?

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dishstaller

Yesterday at 12:56 PM

I really dislike change for the sake of change

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dishdude

Yesterday at 2:51 PM

I like the new look, it's a lot cleaner. I'm using it on one of those Onn streaming devices when I travel.

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Therm

Yesterday at 3:39 PM

dishdude said:
I like the new look, it's a lot cleaner. I'm using it on one of those Onn streaming devices when I travel.

Yes a lot cleaner, glossier, and less functional. Someone trying to justify why they are making a big salary. "See look shiny"

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navychop

Yesterday at 3:53 PM

"Big salary." Charlie. "?Big?"

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Tampa8

Yesterday at 4:01 PM

Seems in some ways better. Nicer layout, as others said maybe cleaner. Moving ahead in the guide is better.

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Foxbat

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Last reply Yesterday at 3:48 PM · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum

New Apple TV 4K released, plus other Apple Home devices.

Apple has finally released their Apple TV 4K with built-in Siri and a microphone so it can respond to your queries even if you don't have the remote. It also increases in price, to $299. I had been planning on updating my current Apple TV 4K streamers, but that's $600 for the two of them, and that's a pass at this point.

At $299, it had better come with 256 GB of Storage, Gigabit (or better) Ethernet, the latest HDMI tech and standards, and one year of free Apple One. But it probably won't…

Apple TV 4K

Apple TV 4K. New Siri AI and hands-free control. Stunning picture and immersive HomePod surround sound. Works with your Apple and smart home devices.

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Ronnie-

Tuesday at 9:19 PM

Meh. The 4Ks I have will do everything that these do that I need them to do.

Which that's most tech these days for anything released the last four to five years.

It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.

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navychop

Tuesday at 9:31 PM

Ronnie- said:
It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.

Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.

navychop

Thursday at 12:55 PM

Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?

KAB

Thursday at 7:46 PM

navychop said:
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?

Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!

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slow_poke_pete

Yesterday at 12:08 AM

navychop said:
Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.

they all do that anyways.. ever notice your cell phone slows down when you come up for an upgrade.. :what

. apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while

ncted

Yesterday at 9:00 AM

KAB said:
Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!

Yeah, they boot up a bit slower than Roku, but the OS does a lot more, so it makes sense. How often are you booting them up that is a differentiator? Aside from OS updates, mine are on all the time. I will say the ATV4K is generally quicker than the Roku Ultras I have, when it comes to launching apps and responsiveness, not that the Roku is sluggish.

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navychop

Yesterday at 2:31 PM

slow_poke_pete said:
apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while

What software? For iPhones? I tried to buy some image s/w IN THE APPLE STORE! They had none, and could not offer ANY s/w for iPhones

ncted

Yesterday at 3:45 PM

slow_poke_pete said:
apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while

I assume you mean services, like iCloud and Apple Music, and not actual software sales. Services have been growing quickly for Apple, but hardware still brings home the bacon. As for where Apple's revenue comes from, the iPhone is still king with 49.58% of revenue as of June 2026. Services comes in second with 28%. iPad, Mac, and Wearables/Home makes up the rest. So, that is 72% coming from hardware. Their profit margin is around 25%, FWIW.

I am skeptical the AppleTV 4k makes them much money on the hardware though, which I suspect is what you were getting at.

ncted

Yesterday at 3:46 PM

navychop said:
What software? For iPhones? I tried to buy some image s/w IN THE APPLE STORE! They had none, and could not offer ANY s/w for iPhones

You should have looked in the APP STORE instead.

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navychop

Yesterday at 3:48 PM

Will do!

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