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wvman

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Last reply Dec 9, 2016 · posted in C-BAND Satellite Discussion

12 Foot Unimesh Questions

I have a question that doesn't apply to your feed alignment tool. I recently picked up a 12 foot Unimesh dish. Sunday, I put it on the pole and replaced the old feed assembly with a Titanium dual output LNBF. The Dish was moved in one piece and it was located about 5 miles from my location as the crow flies. I installed a motor arm and moved the dish up and down in very small increments, and wasn't able to acquire a signal. I used a receiver that had already been tuned in on one of my other dishes.

Last evening, I took off the Titanium and installed a 25K LNBF I had left over from the old C-Band days. I again swept the dish and located a signal on the Grit MUX on Galaxy 19. I tweaked and tuned on the dish for the better part of an hour, and the best I could get was 71% on the signal quality. I was a bit surprised that I got the same quality on this 12 footer and I have on my 7 1/2 footer. Since it had been in operation at the old location, I just assumed the elevation bar and offset angle was right.

Do you have any idea what the signal level should be in order to receive the MPEG 4 HD channels on this satellite. I have not tried to readjust the elevation and offset at this point. Those adjustments are pretty rusty as this dish sat in a meadow just off the river bank. Any suggestions? BTW, let me know when you get the polarity tool finished, I'd like one.

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Titanium

Dec 6, 2016

Signal Quality meter readings are uncalibrated post error correction measurements and can not be compared between different models and even firmware updates on the same STB. You would need a meter or a tuner with software that displays Signal to Noise Ratios.

Use this calculator to experiment with all of the variables to establish the necessary link margins for reliable service.
http://www.satellite-calculations.com/Satellite/Eb_No.htm
Change a few values such as Carrier to Noise or the FEC to calculate the link budget at the bottom. The higher the link budget value, the better the reliability.

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. Raine

Dec 7, 2016

Whomever had the dish before you may have set something wrong, or messed with it and gave up, left it messed up. This past summer I put my 12' onto a mount that came from a dish a few miles from here and it was wonky until I realized that they had the elevation arm on the mount wrong. You probably should double check settings on yours, just to be sure it's setup right. Most dishes will work with things messed up a bit, just might not work all that good.

I noticed the Q levels on most transponders on that 12' are the same or nearly the same as on my 9' dish and at first I was really bummed out about it, that dish has a lot of work in it. But, the 12' will keep receiving stations in inclement weather that the 9' loses and the 12' also pulls in weaker transponders that the 9' has trouble with. Could be the same way with your dish, maybe. Both dishes have Titanuim PLL's on them.

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wvman

Dec 8, 2016

. Raine said:
Whomever had the dish before you may have set something wrong, or messed with it and gave up, left it messed up. This past summer I put my 12' onto a mount that came from a dish a few miles from here and it was wonky until I realized that they had the elevation arm on the mount wrong. You probably should double check settings on yours, just to be sure it's setup right. Most dishes will work with things messed up a bit, just might not work all that good.

I noticed the Q levels on most transponders on that 12' are the same or nearly the same as on my 9' dish and at first I was really bummed out about it, that dish has a lot of work in it. But, the 12' will keep receiving stations in inclement weather that the 9' loses and the 12' also pulls in weaker transponders that the 9' has trouble with. Could be the same way with your dish, maybe. Both dishes have Titanuim PLL's on them.

I hadn't spent the time on it that I wanted to, but last evening, I hooked up two other receivers I had on hand. The HDVR3500 wouldn't find the channels during a scan. One of the Freesat V7's scanned them in, but there was a problem with the audio. It sounded like the audio was off frequency. You could hear it, but you couldn't clean it up. I tried the other V7 and it scanned them in and the audio was just fine. Not sure if the first receiver scanned the audio wrong, or if there's a problem with the receiver. I may do a factory reset and try it again.

I gained 10% on the signal quality with the V7. The other channels on this satellite showed 71% signal quality one the HDVR1200 and the V7 shows 81%, but it will receive the channels. That's a definite plus.

. Raine

Dec 8, 2016

wvman said:
I hadn't spent the time on it that I wanted to, but last evening, I hooked up two other receivers I had on hand. The HDVR3500 wouldn't find the channels during a scan. One of the Freesat V7's scanned them in, but there was a problem with the audio. It sounded like the audio was off frequency. You could hear it, but you couldn't clean it up. I tried the other V7 and it scanned them in and the audio was just fine. Not sure if the first receiver scanned the audio wrong, or if there's a problem with the receiver. I may do a factory reset and try it again.

I gained 10% on the signal quality with the V7. The other channels on this satellite showed 71% signal quality one the HDVR1200 and the V7 shows 81%, but it will receive the channels. That's a definite plus.

My 3500 doesn't have any problems with the channels on 97W, but I'm using 992 firmware, so things might be different between our receivers. There is a problem on 101W with the 3500s not scanning in Decades right.

I've had the distorted audio before too, it's been quite a while but I think just a reboot straightened it out.

It's dark by the time I get home here too, I'm in the same boat as you there, I know what you mean! One of our horses chewed on the Lnb on my 121W dish and broke the holder and my motorized Ku is stuck on 87W, but it's dark when I have time during the week and I haven't had any free time lately on the weekend to spend on them.

wvman

Dec 8, 2016

. Raine said:
My 3500 doesn't have any problems with the channels on 97W, but I'm using 992 firmware, so things might be different between our receivers. There is a problem on 101W with the 3500s not scanning in Decades right.

I've had the distorted audio before too, it's been quite a while but I think just a reboot straightened it out.

It's dark by the time I get home here too, I'm in the same boat as you there, I know what you mean! One of our horses chewed on the Lnb on my 121W dish and broke the holder and my motorized Ku is stuck on 87W, but it's dark when I have time during the week and I haven't had any free time lately on the weekend to spend on them.

I can scan in Decades, Movies & H&I just fine, but here's what happens occasionally. Right now there channels are working just fine, but next week or tomorrow they'll start losing the signal. When it does that, the signal will constantly keep going out and back in and you can't watch any of them. Now I have a problem with COZI, the Puerto Rican channel and THIS on Galaxy 16. They're doing what H&I, Movies and Decades did earlier. I don't know what changed. I never had a problem with any of the channels on Galaxy 16, ever on a 71/2 half foot Unimesh.

Just now I checked MeTV & Movies on Galaxy 16 and they're breaking up. Damn crazy it is. There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to it. I don't have to worry about anything chewing on my dishes or cables. They are inside a 6 foot chain link fence.

I'll tinker around with the 12 footer this weekend if it isn't blue cold outside and see if I can get the signal quality higher than 72%. I don't do cold well these days.

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. Raine

Dec 9, 2016

wvman said:
I can scan in Decades, Movies & H&I just fine, but here's what happens occasionally. Right now there channels are working just fine, but next week or tomorrow they'll start losing the signal. When it does that, the signal will constantly keep going out and back in and you can't watch any of them. Now I have a problem with COZI, the Puerto Rican channel and THIS on Galaxy 16. They're doing what H&I, Movies and Decades did earlier. I don't know what changed. I never had a problem with any of the channels on Galaxy 16, ever on a 71/2 half foot Unimesh.

Just now I checked MeTV & Movies on Galaxy 16 and they're breaking up. Damn crazy it is. There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to it. I don't have to worry about anything chewing on my dishes or cables. They are inside a 6 foot chain link fence. I'll tinker around with the 12 footer this weekend if it isn't blue cold outside and see if I can get the signal quality higher than 72%. I don't do cold well these days.

I and others have been having trouble with This and Cozi on 99W lately so you're not alone there, it seems there may be something wrong on the uplink end there. JFOK started a thread on this a week or so ago. There messed up here right now and the problem seems to be getting worse the longer it goes on. I've been watching Cozi on 103W Ku and I get Cozi and This OTA, so it's not a problem here. I haven't had any problems with Me or Movies on 101 or 99W.

Decades scans in all right on your 3500? Eugene must've fixed that issue in one of the later firmwares, it use to be Decades would scan in but actually be H&I, so there would be two H&I channels and no Decades.

Here in CT they're predicting cold and snow for the weekend, so I probably won't be able to do any tinkering either.

wvman

Dec 9, 2016

. Raine said:
I and others have been having trouble with This and Cozi on 99W lately so you're not alone there, it seems there may be something wrong on the uplink end there. JFOK started a thread on this a week or so ago. There messed up here right now and the problem seems to be getting worse the longer it goes on. I've been watching Cozi on 103W Ku and I get Cozi and This OTA, so it's not a problem here. I haven't had any problems with Me or Movies on 101 or 99W.

Decades scans in all right on your 3500? Eugene must've fixed that issue in one of the later firmwares, it use to be Decades would scan in but actually be H&I, so there would be two H&I channels and no Decades.

Here in CT they're predicting cold and snow for the weekend, so I probably won't be able to do any tinkering either.

I was having trouble with Decades, Movies and H&I, but now those are coming in perfect on the 1200, but that may not be the case later. The FreeSat V7 will scan those as well, but the audio still stutters on Buzzr, Grit and Justice. I haven't looked to see if there's an update for the V7 yet. I did update one of the HDVR3500 and it seems to work a little better. However, COZI, THIS and the Puerto Rican channel breaks up on all three receivers right now, so it must be a problem on their end. Maybe it will fix itself later. We'll see.

wvman

Dec 9, 2016

Titanium said:
Signal Quality meter readings are uncalibrated post error correction measurements and can not be compared between different models and even firmware updates on the same STB. You would need a meter or a tuner with software that displays Signal to Noise Ratios.

Use this calculator to experiment with all of the variables to establish the necessary link margins for reliable service.
http://www.satellite-calculations.com/Satellite/Eb_No.htm
Change a few values such as Carrier to Noise or the FEC to calculate the link budget at the bottom. The higher the link budget value, the better the reliability.

Brian, here's a dish I've had my eye on for a while. It's a 9 foot spun aluminum from DH Antenna. They claim it will perform like a 10 footer, but I've never used one of their dishes. Do you think it will perform well enough to receive the 97W HD Channels on TP-14 3980? What's your take on it? It's about a $1400 investment, not including shipping. It does come with a tuned feed horn.

Titanium

Dec 9, 2016

While DH builds a good one piece dish, a 9' dish still performs like a 9' dish. I am not aware DH has ever manufactured a feedhorn. I am sure that a matched feedhorn is a Chaparral, Seavy or other sourced product.

With the increasing requirements for the higher modulations, I personally wouldn't invest in an undersized reflector unless you want to throw money at the problem and just see what sticks.

Your current dishes may not be 2 degree compliant, age or assembly related warped parabola or a misaligned feedhorn. Confirm 2 degree compliance, string test to verify correct parabola and calculate the FD and FL on your current dishes, the set the scalar and the feedhorn placement in the main lobe convergence, minimize side lobes and optimize cross polarity separation.

A spectrum analyzer would be especially useful. I was on the roof the other day experimenting with the feedhorn and scalar placement for 97w. I found that by detuning the feed by moving only 1/2", the sidelobe signal increase caused the 3920 transponder to drop below threshold SNR. Found that by moving the FD, but keeping the the feedhorn opening at the correct distance I could further attenuate the sidelobe interference for 3920 and increase the Signal Quality considerably.

By optimizing the FD setting for the performance on this specific transponder, the mainlobe performance was reduced for most other frequencies and satellite positions

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Marvel Television’s VisionQuest

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osu1991

Oct 14, 2026

Watched the first episode and enjoyed it.

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Oct 14, 2026

James Spader gets the best lines so far. I'm enjoying this series.

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Finished the 2nd episode tonight. I'm really liking it so far.

Still hate weekly releases though, especially the way Disney and HBO do it waiting until 8pm to premiere it.

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Apparently I'm not a big enough nerd

since I did not read every Marvel Comic Book ever published. If I had, I might be comparing the comics' version of events compared to what's transpiring in "Visionquest". So, I am enjoying the series a lot, not weighed down by previous expectations, knowing only the Avengers MCU movies and the "Wandavision" / "Agatha All Along" TV series.

I found the Mr Know-it-All channel from his discussion about "Star Trek: Strange New Worlds" and he's been gleefully picking these episodes apart, referencing the Marvel comics from the 1939 on. Turns out A.I. has been around since before World War II, at least in the comics. (Robots before that, yes, yes.) This show is going back into the archives.

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I'm expecting the finale to basically bring Vision into play for the Doomsday movie next month.

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So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

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Another example:

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nelson61

Monday at 12:22 PM

Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.

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Monday at 1:25 PM

nelson61 said:
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.

Can't remember where or who I saw predict this.

It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.

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Bruce

Tuesday at 10:17 AM

Scott Greczkowski said:
It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.

Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.

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Scott Greczkowski

Tuesday at 10:22 AM

Bruce said:
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.

I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.

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Bruce

Tuesday at 11:30 AM

Scott Greczkowski said:
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.

Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.

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Nebugeater

Today at 9:12 AM

Bruce said:
Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.

Just a guess on my part but there may be some value to aquring to get all the retransmision agreements that are in place even though at some point they need to be renewed

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SpaceX boldly goes into 'huge' 5G network rollout with Qualcomm

After trying satellites and small cells, Elon Musk's SpaceX is to build a terrestrial mobile network across tens of thousands of sites with Qualcomm.

www.lightreading.com

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Bruce

Today at 11:22 AM

nelson61 said:
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.

If Musk really wants to buy Boost, he might get a great price once Dish Wireless is out of Chapter 11.

Boost just lost 182,000 subs in the 3rd quarter-

https://www.fierce-network.com/wireless/echostar-loses-182k-wireless-customers-q3

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man00

Today at 12:15 PM

Is Dish like Iran in one way...they both will totally collapse by end of week

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Foxbat

Today at 12:16 PM

Other than the price, my experience with Boost is not that different than what I experienced with my years with Cricket. I will be curious to see what happens if SpaceX takes the reins.

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Dang. That had to hurt. I would have not handled it that well. Surprised it wasn't brought up by Heff at the challenge.

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First rule - if you get a clue follow it immediately, 2nd - keep your stuff with you in a strange place, 3rd - pay attention to your ride... (pre first - don't go if you think you might not want to stay Rob)

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MorCowbell

Last reply Today at 10:06 AM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Saved OTA list on Dish can't be appended

I have Dish with Hopper3. I choose to get local channels OTA and had a "guide list" established at my previous home. Having moved a few miles away, I wanted to update the list by appending a couple new stations via a rescan. As many would know, some stations come in with the UHF/VHF antenna aimed in one direction, while others come in better with a different direction.

Unfortunately, when a scan is done (bringing in 25-30 stations for that particular antenna aim), the dialog screen does not present the established guide list; it presents an empty field to the right that the scanned stations may be selected one by one and added to the empty guide. But because of antenna aim, some stations originally saved are missing, and would have to be retrieved with a different antenna aim. But as I explain, if a 2nd scan is done with a different antenna aim, the stations saved from the first scan are lost.

It troubles me that Dish didn't develop software that would allow a user to simply append only 1 or 2 channels to the established list.

Any thought on this? Has anyone experienced this or heard of this from others?

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dishstaller

Tuesday at 9:42 PM

I could very well be wrong....it has been a LOT of years but back when I had a 722K it seemed like when you went back to the scan screen that you could just scan again and it would ADD those channels to the previous list or you could delete the previous results and only add the channels from the new scan.

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MorCowbell

Yesterday at 10:11 AM

Methinks you are wrong, Dishstaller - at least for what I see now..
I so wish that functionality was available ...

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n0qcu

Yesterday at 10:41 AM

dishstaller said:
I could very well be wrong....it has been a LOT of years but back when I had a 722K it seemed like when you went back to the scan screen that you could just scan again and it would ADD those channels to the previous list or you could delete the previous results and only add the channels from the new scan.

I am not sure about that but I do know that you could manually add additional channels just by entering the actual RF channel number and the older receivers would add the virtual channels to your list

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dishstaller

Yesterday at 11:11 AM

n0qcu said:
I am not sure about that but I do know that you could manually add additional channels just by entering the actual RF channel number and the older receivers would add the virtual channels to your list

Like I said.....that has been many years ago. Swapped my 722K for a Hopper in 2012.

It does seem like I remember having to delete the existing channels when we did a rescan. Back then our local stations KEPT monkeying around with things and it was non-stop complaints from customers about their channels not coming in. Got so bad that I stopped selling OR installing OTAs....something I had been doing since 1984 so you know it HAD to be pretty bad.

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MorCowbell

Today at 10:06 AM

You made one of my points for me with this comment, Dishstaller:

"... local stations KEPT monkeying around with things and it was non-stop complaints from customers about their channels not coming in ..."

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NFL 2026-2027 Season

Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.

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HipKat

Tuesday at 4:27 PM

Balls
Bears. Took care of the elite Seahawks defense in a great performance.
NFC North. The entire division is 2 games above .500
Lions. Finally handed an L to that weird Minnesota team. Good vibes for Jack Campbell.
Pitt. Took the lead of the division convincingly.
Bengals vs Titans game. Fireworks game. Not sure it was a well-played game, but it sure was fun. JoeyB with 6 scores... and 4 turnovers.
Denver. They keep winning, man. Payton is a baller of a coach.
Packers. Thorough beatdown of the hard-to-read Panthers.
Jags. Demolished the hapless Colts.
Rams. The Super team finally wins back-to-back games.

Goats
Vikings. Took their first L. I know their D is insane, but their offense is setting back football to the 1950's.
Cowboys. Lost a 2-score lead vs. the Gardner Minshew-led Cards... at home. Embarrassing.
Browns. Playing for the division lead by scoring 6 points.
Bucs vs Falcons game. Setting modern football back to the ice age. Honorable mention to Tua Penix err ... Michael Tagov .... well, you know what I mean.
Bengals fans acting like Burrow just won the MVP after his performance. I get it. 6 scores is awesome. But. He also turned the ball over 4 times and required overtime to beat the 1-win Titans. So spare me the parade.
Chiefs. Not because they lost. It was a close game decided on the last play vs. a divisional rival on the road. That's always rough. But because of their whining over the CLEAR flag they got on the would-be winning play. They are used to getting the calls, and when they don't, they complain. Honorable mention to Mahomes for this quote: "I mean, at the end of the day, you have to go with whatever is called, but a lot of times in those big moments, the little stuff doesn't get called like that"... so you admit it was a penalty?? Just shut up, man.
Colts. They began the fire sale earlier in the week, and it showed. This team is cooked; Daniel Jones should go to the bench, and Steichen will be fired pretty soon.
Chargers. Wow. That's all I got.
Miami. For having the Pats sort of on the ropes and letting them go.
Eagles. Another team that should consider selling some assets. They are going nowhere.

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Howard Simmons

Yesterday at 11:24 AM

HipKat said:
Balls
Bears. Took care of the elite Seahawks defense in a great performance.
NFC North. The entire division is 2 games above .500
Lions. Finally handed an L to that weird Minnesota team. Good vibes for Jack Campbell.
Pitt. Took the lead of the division convincingly.
Bengals vs Titans game. Fireworks game. Not sure it was a well-played game, but it sure was fun. JoeyB with 6 scores... and 4 turnovers.
Denver. They keep winning, man. Payton is a baller of a coach.
Packers. Thorough beatdown of the hard-to-read Panthers.
Jags. Demolished the hapless Colts.
Rams. The Super team finally wins back-to-back games.

Goats
Vikings. Took their first L. I know their D is insane, but their offense is setting back football to the 1950's.
Cowboys. Lost a 2-score lead vs. the Gardner Minshew-led Cards... at home. Embarrassing.
Browns. Playing for the division lead by scoring 6 points.
Bucs vs Falcons game. Setting modern football back to the ice age. Honorable mention to Tua Penix err ... Michael Tagov .... well, you know what I mean.
Bengals fans acting like Burrow just won the MVP after his performance. I get it. 6 scores is awesome. But. He also turned the ball over 4 times and required overtime to beat the 1-win Titans. So spare me the parade.
Chiefs. Not because they lost. It was a close game decided on the last play vs. a divisional rival on the road. That's always rough. But because of their whining over the CLEAR flag they got on the would-be winning play. They are used to getting the calls, and when they don't, they complain. Honorable mention to Mahomes for this quote: "I mean, at the end of the day, you have to go with whatever is called, but a lot of times in those big moments, the little stuff doesn't get called like that"... so you admit it was a penalty?? Just shut up, man.
Colts. They began the fire sale earlier in the week, and it showed. This team is cooked; Daniel Jones should go to the bench, and Steichen will be fired pretty soon.
Chargers. Wow. That's all I got.
Miami. For having the Pats sort of on the ropes and letting them go.
Eagles. Another team that should consider selling some assets. They are going nowhere.

Mahomes is the biggest cry baby I have ever seen. He thinks he's privileged or something.

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meStevo

Yesterday at 12:14 PM

Just the same vilification as players like Brady experienced, a product of their success and largely overblown (just like them 'getting all the calls').

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Yespage

Yesterday at 1:31 PM

Howard Simmons said:
Mahomes is the biggest cry baby I have ever seen. He thinks he's privileged or something.

Well you see him more because he is incredibly talented. And yes, typically players try to spin things being in their favor. This isn't cricket where sportsmanship (except in Australia) is expected.

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HipKat

Yesterday at 8:13 PM

Howard Simmons said:
Mahomes is the biggest cry baby I have ever seen. He thinks he's privileged or something.

He wants to be Brady

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HipKat

Yesterday at 8:14 PM

meStevo said:
Just the same vilification as players like Brady experienced, a product of their success and largely overblown (just like them 'getting all the calls').

The only people who deny what Brady got from the officials are Brady fans

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gms49ers

Today at 10:02 AM

The NFL, for some time, has protected the marquee quarterbacks. Brady, Mahomes, Allen, Burrow - they all get the calls.
The lower tier QBs don't seem to get the same benefit. For instance, some of the hits that Darnold took from Chicago on Monday night would have been a flag frenzy if any of the marquee QBs were hit like that. And I am not in any way a fan of anything Seahawks related. I am a fan of balanced officiating - and that hasn't been the case for a while.

My team is not immune to this - Fred Warner laid some vicious hits in the Commanders game that I thought should have been flagged - one was, but they picked it up.

Not a good look on NFL officials.