Ok, moved the dish on the left side, Thanks for the help you guys gave, I have 72.7 and 61.5 with strong signals, I dont have to fool with it anymore.. I've installed Dish 500's, FTA dishes, WA dishes, first time aiming at the EA's and all in all that stupid LOS was the only issue but it caused me so much sh*t...lol, really if you set the elevation, skew and azimuth you really can't go wrong, but those tree's are a pain sometimes.. Thanks again.