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VIP 211k picture format questions

Went HD in the living room, top 250 package which includes a couple movie channels
(TMC-w, TMC-xw,Encore w, Ewstn, Eactn, Mplex, fxm, )
On all channels other than these I've got full screen HD, 1080i, but on the above the picture is letter boxed on the sides and top/bottom. Now i've just noticed that selecting non HD regular channels results in the same,
so do HD movie channels have to be subbed in HD separately?
Interesting that all channels in this package avail as HD I get, but not the movie channels.
Rarely watch movie channels anyway, just trying to understand the approach.
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lfp302
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The six channels listed are in SD.
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lfp302 said:
The six channels listed are in SD.
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Now, a separate pet peeve of mine is broadcasting a widescreen SD signal completely picture framed as Capt Odyssea described above. Why oh why can't Dish broadcast widescreen properly in widescreen? :crying
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TheKrell said:
Now, a separate pet peeve of mine is broadcasting a widescreen SD signal completely picture framed as Capt Odyssea described above. Why oh why can't Dish broadcast widescreen properly in widescreen? :crying
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Then they would be stretching/zooming the SD picture (though more proportionally correct than 4:3 stretch-o-vision).
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Then they would be stretching/zooming the SD picture (though more proportionally correct than 4:3 stretch-o-vision).
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Yes but the PQ will be much better if Dish did that at the head end rather than making us do it with our TV.
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TheKrell said:
Yes but the PQ will be much better if Dish did that at the head end rather than making us do it with our TV.
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I think you can select that option in the receiver..you have to set it 480i

Sent from my SM-G920V using the SatelliteGuys app!
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Juan said:
I think you can select that option in the receiver..you have to set it 480i
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Really??? I change SD (letterbox) channels ALL the time to "ZOOM" & I've NEVER changed it from 1080i...& I do it a LOT more now "on the fly", now that they FINALLY decided to send all the Superstations in letterbox; picture quality is much better & you see the entire screen, than when they were center-cutting them.
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TheKrell said:
Now, a separate pet peeve of mine is broadcasting a widescreen SD signal completely picture framed as Capt Odyssea described above. Why oh why can't Dish broadcast widescreen properly in widescreen? :crying
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Dish does not originate the signal. They receive it in SD already postage-stamped (black on all 4 sides) from the content creator so there's nothing Dish can do about it without compromising things for SD TVs. I suppose Dish could convert the incoming signal to HD and transmit that but that wouldn't increase picture quality.

The Dish receiver does a decent job zooming the image to full screen for HD 16:9 display. I do this all the time, but the resolution is still SD.

DVD players have a mode that allow the content provider to provide a16:9 image that was squeezed to 4:3. The player then had logic to restore the original aspect ratio. It would letter box for SD displays or stretch it back to 16:9 for HD displays. Most could also pass it on to a 16:9 TV where it could stretch it back to 16:9. This won't work in the world where there are SD 4:3 TVs that don't know anything about the aspect being sent.
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Yep, for at least the past two weeks or so, a bunch of SD channels have been broadcast in the wrong aspect ratio (squished & stretched or just stretched) or as HD even though they're SD...

Using the VIP 222's ratio controls (stretch, partial zoom, zoom, gray bar) makes no difference. They have no effect and do not work (gray bar doesn't even show up).

I know it's not my TV's fault, as we're having the same problem with our other TV & VIP 222, and some SD channels are not effected.

It's really starting to piss me off... and I don't piss off easily...

Channels exhibiting the problem, that I watch, are:
177
217
232
373
377

There must be more...

Because the gray bar option won't work on the effected channels, it's the easiest way to tell if the channel is messed up...

Who can we contact to have this resolved?
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kwindrem said:
Dish does not originate the signal. They receive it in SD already postage-stamped (black on all 4 sides) from the content creator so there's nothing Dish can do about it without compromising things for SD TVs. I suppose Dish could convert the incoming signal to HD and transmit that but that wouldn't increase picture quality.

The Dish receiver does a decent job zooming the image to full screen for HD 16:9 display. I do this all the time, but the resolution is still SD.

DVD players have a mode that allow the content provider to provide a16:9 image that was squeezed to 4:3. The player then had logic to restore the original aspect ratio. It would letter box for SD displays or stretch it back to 16:9 for HD displays. Most could also pass it on to a 16:9 TV where it could stretch it back to 16:9. This won't work in the world where there are SD 4:3 TVs that don't know anything about the aspect being sent.
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If you use the rca jacks on the 211k you get a regular old fashioned SD signal for older tvs

Sent from my SM-G920V using the SatelliteGuys app!
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DISH Hopper 3 Software Version 713 Is Out

No idea what improvements might be involved.
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That's a lot of information to ingest. However, I don't have the Hopper Plus and my 54 remote is doing crazy things to the Hopper 3. Several times each evening when I press the skip forward button several times to advance through a commercial, it switches the receiver either onto live TV or into suspension. Other buttons will also cause this randomly, I haven't established any patterns I can describe. I use "recall" to go back to my recorded program in progress.

Needless to say, something in the newer Hopper 3 softwares has caused the remote functioning to ......................malfunction. Evidently, it applies to third party remotes as well as DISH's own remotes.
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rvvaquero said:
That's a lot of information to ingest. However, I don't have the Hopper Plus and my 54 remote is doing crazy things to the Hopper 3. Several times each evening when I press the skip forward button several times to advance through a commercial, it switches the receiver either onto live TV or into suspension. Other buttons will also cause this randomly, I haven't established any patterns I can describe. I use "recall" to go back to my recorded program in progress.

Needless to say, something in the newer Hopper 3 softwares has caused the remote functioning to ......................malfunction. Evidently, it applies to third party remotes as well as DISH's own remotes.
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This is exactly the same issue I was having as I had the Hopper 3 and 54 remote without the Hopper Plus and the symptoms were virtually identical to yours.
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We have had a corolary problem in this and the prior s/w. Using several different 40.0 remotes (yeah, we're old), when one pauses a live or recorded show it becomes a crap shoot whether it will step foreward the 30" as requested, jump to the end, or restart the episode. Tried the famous 60" reboot to no avail and have decided to live with it vs. a receiver swap risk.
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I think there's a change to the "skip forward 30 seconds". With CBS that does not have auto-skip, if you stack up a bunch of 30 second forwards it seems to stop when the kangaroo signaling the end of the commercial break appears.
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Also posted this in the 3rd party remote thread.

My Hopper 3 updated itself to H713 last week and the IR issue is worse now. On H711, I could be on an SD channel for several hours and the IR side of my H3 would still be responsive without my having to tap the View button on my Pronto Pro every 15 minutes. Now, if I stay even on an SD channel without tapping the View button at least once an hour, it becomes unresponsive to my Pronto Pro without tapping the View button at least 5-20 times, just like on the HD and 4K channels. So, H713 actually made the issue worse. :(

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Problem with Amazon Prime Video

I've been having intermittent problems with Amazon Prime video programs loading using the H3 guide listing. I can get to the program I want to watch, but when I try to view it, it starts to load and then stalls. Eventually, a screen pops up saying "something went wrong, try again later". I've tried rebooting the hopper without success. Sometimes switching the HDMI input on my LG TV works, but not always. I don't have this problem on my phone or computer, so it is not a network or router issue.

I did a quick google search and found that this is a common problem associated with overloading or corruption of the data cache in the Amazon app and the solution is to clear the cache. Easy to do on a computer or phone, but I don't know how to do this on the H3. If anyone a solution or suggestion, I'd appreciate some help. Thanks.
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What's For Lunch?

We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so... :)
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
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Beef, bean green chile, cheese homemade burritos here... Water
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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

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Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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TVs are really getting big these days

Was raining yesterday so I went to Sams up in Dothan to stock up on some things. Haven't been there in quite a while. I was amazed at how large most of the TVs were. When I walked in they had a 100 in Vizio (I think it was Vizio) that was marked down to something like $1,200. The first rows of TVs were all in the 80 in + sizes. The next couple of rows had the "smaller" models....those 75 and under. I was amazed at how small the 75s looked when lined up with the larger screens.
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Q-LED and Mini LED panels have improved the picture quality and the tv's are so thin and nearly without bezels now. I've thought about replacing the 75in 4k DV/HDR LED Sony in my living room with a newer 86in. That's as big as I can go without construction changes. I watch the 75in 4k DV/HDR Q-LED in my bedroom and the difference between the two is very noticeable. There's nothing wrong with the living room tv though and I don't now that I actually watch enough anymore to really justify it. I could move it out to the patio but the 65in Q-LED out there looks really good and I'd have to change the mount to accomdate a larger tv out there.
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I'm at a limit for TV sizes at this time. My Father-in-Law crafted a custom entertainment center for our family room and we were restricted from going too big based on the side cabinets and central bridge fitting in the width of the room. It turns out to be where a 55" screen with bezels fits but no 65" bezel-less screen can fit. I think there was a brief period where 58" screens where a thing, but no more.

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Foxbat said:
I'm at a limit for TV sizes at this time. My Father-in-Law crafted a custom entertainment center for our family room and we were restricted from going too big based on the side cabinets and central bridge fitting in the width of the room. It turns out to be where a 55" screen with bezels fits but no 65" bezel-less screen can fit. I think there was a brief period where 58" screens where a thing, but no more.

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55" is plenty big.
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TRG said:
55" is plenty big.
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And to think....I was SO proud of myself when I bought a 27 in TV in the late 80s. Everyone just had a 25 in so I was really in high cotton.
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Has anyone been to Wales?

I've pretty much done most things in Ireland and I'm thinking about the other side of the Irish sea. I'm thinking about traveling to Wales this summer. My second choice would be Scotland. I don't want anything to do with London except maybe landing in Heathrow and then escaping quickly.

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