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Last reply Sep 17, 2017 · posted in DIRECTV General Forum

thinking of switching from Dish to Direct, but have some questions

My current Dish setup is as follows:

1 Hopper with sling in the main room, connected to a 1080P tv via hdmi & it also supports a wireless joey in the kitchen.
1 Hopper with sling the bedroom that feeds a 4K tv via hdmi. This also supports another tv via component over cat5 cable. The hdmi feed also connects to another wireless setup that supports a 1080P tv upstairs. I have been with Dish for about 20 years, but have grown tired of all of the programming disputes, and the upgrades that IMO are steps backward. Plus, I have heard that Direct has the better picture of the two.

With Direct, would I be able to have to dvr's on the account? Does Direct have a wireless setup? Are all of the outputs active at the same time on the Direct units?

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mdram

Sep 11, 2017

honestly i relly like directv
but if i was making a choice right now based on equipment
dish would win.

the genie was more attractive than the hopper/hopper2

but it cannot compete with the hopper 3

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tspangle

Sep 11, 2017

I literally just made this switch. After being with Dish for about 10 years, I got DirecTV installed today. Been playing around with it for a couple of hours. The picture quality is definitely better. I'm watching football right now after watching a bunch yesterday, and the difference is significant. On Dish, there were always compression artifacts around the players when they moved, and I'm not seeing that at all on DirecTV. Couple that with the significant savings I got, plus Sunday Ticket, and I'm happy.

HOWEVER. The Genie lags far behind the Hopper 3 in many, many ways. First off, only 5 tuners (I have an HR-54) vs. 16 in the Hopper. No OTA support. No folders, which honestly amazes me. The hard drive is half the size of the Hopper's. The user interface seems less polished, and it's not quite as quick and responsive as the Hopper, either. None of these are deal-breakers for me, but you definitely want to go in with your eyes open if you make the switch.

rad

Sep 11, 2017

tspangle said:
I literally just made this switch. After being with Dish for about 10 years, I got DirecTV installed today. Been playing around with it for a couple of hours. The picture quality is definitely better. I'm watching football right now after watching a bunch yesterday, and the difference is significant. On Dish, there were always compression artifacts around the players when they moved, and I'm not seeing that at all on DirecTV. Couple that with the significant savings I got, plus Sunday Ticket, and I'm happy.

HOWEVER. The Genie lags far behind the Hopper 3 in many, many ways. First off, only 5 tuners (I have an HR-54) vs. 16 in the Hopper. No OTA support. No folders, which honestly amazes me. The hard drive is half the size of the Hopper's. The user interface seems less polished, and it's not quite as quick and responsive as the Hopper, either. None of these are deal-breakers for me, but you definitely want to go in with your eyes open if you make the switch.

Too bad you didn't wait until you could get the HS17.

IcEWoLF

Sep 12, 2017

rad said:
Too bad you didn't wait until you could get the HS17.

The HS-17 ATM even with 7 tuners they won't let you use more than 5 tuners. Directv should have released something with more tuners.

rad

Sep 12, 2017

IcEWoLF said:
The HS-17 ATM even with 7 tuners they won't let you use more than 5 tuners. Directv should have released something with more tuners.

The HS17 does have 15 tuners so the hardware is there, but DIRECTV has said they're reserving some for 4K and future usage, whatever that might be.

ncted

Sep 12, 2017

tspangle said:
I literally just made this switch. After being with Dish for about 10 years, I got DirecTV installed today. Been playing around with it for a couple of hours. The picture quality is definitely better. I'm watching football right now after watching a bunch yesterday, and the difference is significant. On Dish, there were always compression artifacts around the players when they moved, and I'm not seeing that at all on DirecTV. Couple that with the significant savings I got, plus Sunday Ticket, and I'm happy.

HOWEVER. The Genie lags far behind the Hopper 3 in many, many ways. First off, only 5 tuners (I have an HR-54) vs. 16 in the Hopper. No OTA support. No folders, which honestly amazes me. The hard drive is half the size of the Hopper's. The user interface seems less polished, and it's not quite as quick and responsive as the Hopper, either. None of these are deal-breakers for me, but you definitely want to go in with your eyes open if you make the switch.

Interestingly, I just switched the other way. I was expecting to notice the reduced PQ, but I haven't. According to a thread over on the Dish side Dish has been upgrading their encoders. I tried watching some sports last weekend, which is not something I normally do to try to see if I could find the compression artifacts I used to see on my old Hopper 2k. I checked soccer, football, and tennis, and it was minimal. Hardly any compared to what I remembered. DirecTV might still have the PQ advantage, but Dish seems to have upped their game, at least on the Eastern Arc.

IcEWoLF

Sep 12, 2017

rad said:
The HS17 does have 15 tuners so the hardware is there, but DIRECTV has said they're reserving some for 4K and future usage, whatever that might be.

DirecTV is so darn confusing, one of the reasons I just wanna move on, also their customer services is crap, half the people I talk to are from the Philippines. Just many times they just don't get or understand things.
To me it sounds like they really aren't sure what they going to do with the HS17, and they are probably just experimenting things.

I have HR44 and its been alright but the guide as of late feels slow and the mini wireless client is even slower, even after resets.

ncted

Sep 12, 2017

IcEWoLF said:
DirecTV is so darn confusing, one of the reasons I just wanna move on, also their customer services is crap, half the people I talk to are from the Philippines. Just many times they just don't get or understand things.
To me it sounds like they really aren't sure what they going to do with the HS17, and they are probably just experimenting things.

I have HR44 and its been alright but the guide as of late feels slow and the mini wireless client is even slower, even after resets.

I am pretty sure they know what they are going to do with the HS17. Just because they aren't sharing it with us doesn't mean they don't know what they are doing. Whatever it is, you can be assured it wasn't entirely ready when it shipped, but it will probably get there some day.

CEV

Sep 17, 2017

ncted said:
Interestingly, I just switched the other way. I was expecting to notice the reduced PQ, but I haven't. According to a thread over on the Dish side Dish has been upgrading their encoders. I tried watching some sports last weekend, which is not something I normally do to try to see if I could find the compression artifacts I used to see on my old Hopper 2k. I checked soccer, football, and tennis, and it was minimal. Hardly any compared to what I remembered. DirecTV might still have the PQ advantage, but Dish seems to have upped their game, at least on the Eastern Arc.

I'm seriously considering switching to Dish as well. Been with DirecTV for years, but really tired of the $140+ monthly charge. I have the Genie 1 and been trying to find out what I'll miss if I move on to Dish.

raoul5788

Sep 17, 2017

CEV said:
I'm seriously considering switching to Dish as well. Been with DirecTV for years, but really tired of the $140+ monthly charge. I have the Genie 1 and been trying to find out what I'll miss if I move on to Dish.

Maybe nothing, maybe a lot. Are you a NY sports fan? You sure don't want to have Dish if you are.

ncted

Sep 17, 2017

CEV said:
I'm seriously considering switching to Dish as well. Been with DirecTV for years, but really tired of the $140+ monthly charge. I have the Genie 1 and been trying to find out what I'll miss if I move on to Dish.

The big thing I miss is the Select package. I have the AT120 with Dish, and it is missing BBC America, but I do not watch enough on that 1 channel to justify the extra money for the AT200. I do not miss the DirecTV hardware and software.

DialgaChampion

Sep 17, 2017

mdram said:
honestly i really like directv
but if i was making a choice right now based on equipment, dish would win.

the genie was more attractive than the hopper/hopper2, but it cannot compete with the hopper 3

This. A lot of people still have the older Hopper 1 and Hopper 2, because they don't have good enough credit, or they don't want to spend the extra money upgrading to a Hopper 3.

When comparing the Hopper 1 and Hopper 2 models against the Genie, the Genie clearly wins hands-down.

However, when comparing the Hopper 3 against the Genie, the Hopper 3 wins because of the hardware and Primetime Anytime. Then it just comes down to whether you prefer the channels and picture quality of DirecTV over Dish. Personally, I'm not a sports fan, so I could care less about that. And then when it comes to PQ, I used to have Direct a few years ago. Honestly, I couldn't tell the difference between them and Dish. What I did notice was how bad The Hub looked at the time, because it wasn't available in HD.

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dishstaller

Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Last reply 44 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

You can't even trust the cost per ounce info in grocery stores anymore

I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f3zr37ekgKM?feature=share

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Jimbo

Today at 9:23 AM

dishstaller said:
I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f3zr37ekgKM?feature=share

Walmart isn't the only one ...

Juan

Today at 11:17 AM

dishstaller said:
I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f3zr37ekgKM?feature=share

When walmart set a price...they weigh the container and the product...the product label only shows the weight of the product...I am sure if you brought your own plastic baggies to bring the product home you could get the cheaper price

harshness

Today at 11:18 AM

Jimbo said:
Walmart isn't the only one ...

I've been seeing this more and more on Amazon. Sometimes it seems there is no way they could have arrived at the number.

What rankles me even more is Costco changing units of measure between similar products, so you have to convert them to compare prices.

dishstaller

44 minutes ago

Juan said:
When walmart set a price...they weigh the container and the product...

Then they are stupid. Everyone knows that the price per ounce should be the price per ounce of actual product.

Scott Greczkowski

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Last reply 49 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

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Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

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Today at 9:36 AM

Love Every Little Thing About You - Gallery

gms49ers

Today at 10:40 AM

Where's My Thing? - Rush

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Today at 11:08 AM

I Don't Wanna Miss a Thing - Aerosmith

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Today at 11:20 AM

Good Golly, Miss Molly - Little Richard

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49 minutes ago

Little Miss Dangerous - Ted Nugent

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dfergie

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!

Last reply Today at 11:26 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Gas Price Info With National Gas Temperature Map

Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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harshness

Sunday at 11:30 AM

I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.

harshness

Yesterday at 5:32 PM

harshness said:
I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.

It turns out I was justified in my suspicion.

Gavin Newsom somehow authorized the temporary move of the distribution date of the Winter blend to September 28th.

Foxbat

Yesterday at 8:39 PM

harshness said:
It turns out I was justified in my suspicion.

Gavin Newsom somehow authorized the temporary move of the distribution date of the Winter blend to September 28th.

Does that raise, or lower, the overall price? Our State Government has been doing everything it can to minimize the impact of the current situation and put a freeze on the State Taxes on fuel sales at the pump. That's why we're still under $4.00/gal. while across the border in Michigan it's much higher.

Bobby

Yesterday at 9:05 PM

Foxbat said:
Does that raise, or lower, the overall price? Our State Government has been doing everything it can to minimize the impact of the current situation and put a freeze on the State Taxes on fuel sales at the pump. That's why we're still under $4.00/gal. while across the border in Michigan it's much higher.

Winter blend is cheaper than Summer blend.

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Bobby

Today at 11:21 AM

Regular$5.839
Premium$6.299
Diesel$7.999
at Costco, Rohnert Park.

harshness

Today at 11:26 AM

Foxbat said:
Does that raise, or lower, the overall price?

Winter blend is reportedly 10-30 cents cheaper, but I would point out that prices have dropped as much as 62 cents at RP.

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reubenray

Today at 11:19 AM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish vs Streaming Apps?

Every time my Dish contract comes up I weigh the options of keeping Dish or switch to streaming. Right now I can watch/record the OTA channels vis my HDHomerun. I also can stream CBS and NBC via the Paramount+ and Peacock apps. What I would need to find is how to watch the Food Network, HGTV, Syfy, USA, Hallmark channels, Great American Family, Lifetime channels plus a few more with an app or two. My current Dish bill is $118, so I should be able to get a few apps for a lot less.

Any suggestions? I would want the best picture quality and audio quality I could get.

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Last reply Today at 11:18 AM · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center

Site is slooooow

For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.

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Scott Greczkowski

Saturday at 3:21 PM

Ok checked it out and for some reason the web server (NGINX) tried starting before the DNS resolver fully loaded. This is why it worked when I rebooted the machine.

Thanks to ChatGPT it had me change the NGINX config to prevent this from happening again.

With that said I can't prevent the ISP from doing emergency upgrades which was the cause of all of this.

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navychop

Saturday at 3:39 PM

Nature will develop better idiots.

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TRG

Saturday at 4:19 PM

navychop said:
Nature will develop better idiots.

God help us.

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Scott Greczkowski

Monday at 11:15 AM

I guess this is what the downtime was about.

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Today at 11:18 AM

Just a heads up... I just patched our PHP to close the major PHP exploit announced this morning.

Now on PHP 8.4.27 (cli) (built: Oct 20 2026 00:00:00)

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Last reply Today at 10:40 AM · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum

DIRECTV Transponder Map ~ Data 10/14/2026

The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:

National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)

Additional tabs provide:

OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders

Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions

DIRECTV_TPN_Map_261014.xlsx 1,874 KB

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KyL416

Yesterday at 2:37 PM

WCWW/25 CW South Bend and WBKP/5 CW Marquette are now testing on the stream server. These are both already available on satellite.

Now live in the satellite guide:
663-2 PISTONS (663-1 is likely being reserved for an overflow feed of Detroit Sportsnet, if there's a 2027 MLB season)
675 THUNDER
693 CLIPPERS

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doctor J

Today at 7:22 AM

DirecTV Satellite Transponder Updates for Oct 21 2026

Comparison of Transponder Data for Oct 21 2026 vs Oct 14 2026:

No changes in system tables for any transponder tuning parameters.

Changes to the use of defined transponders:

1 Transponder cleared of all Streams::
Net 10 TID 126 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D11@99cb, TPN 3

1 Previously unused Transponder with current APG records::
Net 15 TID 15 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D12@103ca, TPN 16

Stream (PID) counts:

LIVE Streams	National		Spot Beams
	Count	Change	Count	Change
4K	4
HD	264	2	1449
SD mpeg4	145		194
SD mpeg2	433
RB
Audio	89
Push	26
Slate	19		1

TEST Streams	National		Spot Beams
	Count	Change	Count	Change
4K
HD			1
SD mpeg4
SD mpeg2
RB
Engr Work	38	-2

The PID count Excel workbook provides much more count detail.

Newly updated tables of Streams on each transponder are available in the DataDigesters TPN Grids

More details of changes in individual channels will follow in the Weekly Analysis
and Gary Toma's Domestic TPN Map Excel files

NBA Updates
Weekly Analysis soon
Enjoy
DataDigesters

doctor J

Today at 7:23 AM

weekly Analysis for 10/21/2026:

Weekly_Analysis_261021.xlsx 16 KB

KyL416

Today at 7:25 AM

HAWKS, HORNETS, GRZZLIES, HEAT, MAGIC, CAVLIERS, TWOLVES, BUCKS, PACERS and SPURS channels have also been added, however they are pointing to a TV Promise slate, which says they are working with DAZN and others to strike a deal for those teams.

Some more TPN swaps

Mr Tony

Today at 10:40 AM

KyL416 said:
HAWKS, HORNETS, GRZZLIES, HEAT, MAGIC, CAVLIERS, TWOLVES, BUCKS, PACERS and SPURS channels have also been added, however they are pointing to a TV Promise slate, which says they are working with DAZN and others to strike a deal for those teams.

Some more TPN swaps

Wait…..
So even though DAZN keeps touting 'only way to see games' if you are a subscriber to Choice (like my stepdad) if an agreement is reached he can see the Wolfies on 668?
I know the Wild are in dispute and a slate is on 668-1.

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Marques Brownlee

Today at 10:32 AM · posted in Marques Brownlee