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Last reply Oct 26, 2017 · posted in The Phone & Tablet Zone

Apple Car Play

Does anyone here use CarPlay yet?

I loaded it up on my new Honda Accord and the few apps work fine, including Audible. The maps shows traffic too. But I have yet to find an app for weather radar maps that works with CarPlay.

I have weather radar maps in mt Ford Escape through Sirius XM Travel link but Travel Link is not supported in Honda cars.

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Red_dog

Oct 19, 2017

You missing the point, car play is just an apple device, just like the iPhone, iPod, etc. I look into to it, because I wanted a bigger screen, then the iPhone. Well, guess what, you iPhone will not mirror to it as airplay. You need all new apps and you can not have the same app, such as google map or Waze. Plus if you want navigation that's more money. I have navigation on my phone, why do I need another. That's because car play will not use your iPhone. Yes it has access to your iPhone. Which I can do with all the other Bluetooth radio. If it free okay, but don't spend your money on it.

king3pj

Oct 19, 2017

Red_dog said:
You missing the point, car play is just an apple device, just like the iPhone, iPod, etc. I look into to it, because I wanted a bigger screen, then the iPhone. Well, guess what, you iPhone will not mirror to it as airplay. You need all new apps and you can not have the same app, such as google map or Waze. Plus if you want navigation that's more money. I have navigation on my phone, why do I need another. That's because car play will not use your iPhone. Yes it has access to your iPhone. Which I can do with all the other Bluetooth radio. If it free okay, but don't spend your money on it.

There is a lot of incorrect information in your post. I have first hand experience with CarPlay on our 2018 Chevy Equinox. CarPlay only works with an iPhone plugged into the car via USB. The compatible apps I have on my phone do automatically show up on the CarPlay interface when I plug my phone in. There is no app store built into CarPlay. When my iPhone is not plugged in via USB there isn't even an option for CarPlay on the touch screen. It is not an independent device like an iPhone or iPad.

CarPlay will not mirror your device to the screen like AirPlay does on the Apple TV because Apple doesn't want to get sued when some idiot crashes their car trying to watch Netflix while driving. That is why only apps that Apple approves get CarPlay support. The apps I use with CarPlay on a regular basis are Spotify for music, Pocket Casts for podcasts, Audible for audio books, MLB at Bat for listening to baseball games, and Apple Maps. These were all apps I used on my phone all the time before having CarPlay and they just automatically show up on the CarPlay screen when I plug my phone in.

CarPlay absolutely uses the navigation built into your phone.You don't have to pay more to use navigation. The caveat is that it only works with Apple Maps. They haven't approved Google Maps or Waze but you can use Apple Maps with CarPlay for free if you download it from the App Store on your phone.

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Red_dog

Oct 25, 2017

king3pj said:
There is a lot of incorrect information in your post. I have first hand experience with CarPlay on our 2018 Chevy Equinox. CarPlay only works with an iPhone plugged into the car via USB. The compatible apps I have on my phone do automatically show up on the CarPlay interface when I plug my phone in. There is no app store built into CarPlay. When my iPhone is not plugged in via USB there isn't even an option for CarPlay on the touch screen. It is not an independent device like an iPhone or iPad.

CarPlay will not mirror your device to the screen like AirPlay does on the Apple TV because Apple doesn't want to get sued when some idiot crashes their car trying to watch Netflix while driving. That is why only apps that Apple approves get CarPlay support. The apps I use with CarPlay on a regular basis are Spotify for music, Pocket Casts for podcasts, Audible for audio books, MLB at Bat for listening to baseball games, and Apple Maps. These were all apps I used on my phone all the time before having CarPlay and they just automatically show up on the CarPlay screen when I plug my phone in.

CarPlay absolutely uses the navigation built into your phone.You don't have to pay more to use navigation. The caveat is that it only works with Apple Maps. They haven't approved Google Maps or Waze but you can use Apple Maps with CarPlay for free if you download it from the App Store on your phone.

Thanks for your reply, First I will double check about using the nav on the phone, when I was replacing my radio, if you want to CarPlay with nav, you had to buy an radio with nav, I didn't mean pay extra fee.
Second, as for app, if you would do a little checking, you will find out that CarPlay has it own os, just like the iwatch and this is why there isn't any apps. The last time I check, they we're trying to more app. Third, as for being sue by watch Netflix, that a real BS. You can watch it now using a windshield mount. Plus, all you need to do a modify the app, not remove it. Look at wase, if you are moving, it will ask it you are the passenger. As for being sue, if the police find out you were watching any video, yes you will be liable, not the app writer.
Last, that for the information on that the iPhone needs to be plug in. The real waste of time, if you just going down the street.
As for now, I will stayed with what I said, if fee, go for it, but it not worth the money.

king3pj

Oct 25, 2017

Red_dog said:
Thanks for your reply, First I will double check about using the nav on the phone, when I was replacing my radio, if you want to CarPlay with nav, you had to buy an radio with nav, I didn't mean pay extra fee.

You can do all the double checking you want but I'm telling you that I have personally used Apple Maps through CarPlay many times and our 2018 Equinox does not have built in navigation. That is an upgrade I didn't pay for because I knew I could just use CarPlay for free. Different radios may have different features with CarPlay and maybe the aftermarket radio you were looking at installing didn't support Apple Maps for some reason but the stock radio built into my Chevy works fine without the car having built in navigation.

Red_dog said:
Third, as for being sue by watch Netflix, that a real BS. You can watch it now using a windshield mount. Plus, all you need to do a modify the app, not remove it. Look at wase, if you are moving, it will ask it you are the passenger. As for being sue, if the police find out you were watching any video, yes you will be liable, not the app writer.

I strongly disagree. There is a huge difference between a driver deciding to use a windshield mount to watch Netflix while they drive and Apple purposely designing CarPlay to work with Netflix and other video apps. The windshield mount example is the user taking a mount that was designed for many legitimate purposes and using it in an idiotic way. Apple building video support in natively is Apple helping people be idiots while they drive. It's easy to see why Apple would have liability if they built it into CarPlay and not have liability if someone bought a windshield mount that Apple didn't even make.

rockymtnhigh

Oct 25, 2017

Seriously, it is completely unlikely that Apple will ever support social media on CarPlay, for the liability and safety issues discussed above. There is no reason, however, why there isn't a weather app, OR why Google Maps doesn't have an app. now the latter could be on Apple, or it could be on Google.

TheForce

Oct 26, 2017

rockymtnhigh said:
There is no reason, however, why there isn't a weather app,

I would like to see the weather radar added as an overlay on the maps with GPS movement. I have that feature on my Ford Escape using Sirius Travel. I just turn it on like adding gas stations and hotels to the map. While my 2017 Honda Accord Hybrid has lots of nice features in the Nav screen, it is not as slick and convenient as the one on my 2014 Ford Escape. The Honda has three Map navigation apps. 1. the satellite Garmin with overlay of gas stations, hotels, restaurants and others. But no weather radar. Not even Sirius is compatible. Then I do have the Google+ Browser where I can load up weather.com and other weather web sites when in range of LTE but this does not track with the navigation. Then there is Apple Car Play and that has no weather. Traffic is available on the Garmin, Carplay map, and Google Earth map but it is slow on updates. Waze on my Google + is really slow. Better to just load it up on my ipad or iphone separately. So, I connect one iphone to the car play or Google+ and use the second iphone for waze which is much faster.

Foxbat

Oct 26, 2017

I finally got to experience CarPlay with my iPhone when renting the Volvo S90. It works way better than mounting the iPhone and using its display, plus Siri's instructions overlay any audio input, not just the BT or USB AirPlay feed from the iPhone. The only reason I preferred the S90's built-in Nav was the driver display of NAV info in the instrument cluster. However, we stayed at a new hotel and its address was not in the car's NAV database, but Apple Maps had it. You also get traffic info as well using the phone. If the driving instructions could show up in the instrument cluster it would be a great system.

My friend who had a Samsung Galaxy S7 recently moved to an iPhone 7 Plus after he bought a Cadillac XTS sedan with CUE. He said the Android Auto was a pain to use and his spouse's iPhone did CarPlay seamlessly. Since it was a Company phone it wasn't a big deal to change (other than getting used to a GUI on the iPhone) and he's loving the CarPlay's features for streaming audio from the Pandora app. I saw MLB at-Bat, Pandora, Tuned-in, and Amazon Music where available on mine.

Red_dog

Oct 26, 2017

king3pj said:
You can do all the double checking you want but I'm telling you that I have personally used Apple Maps through CarPlay many times and our 2018 Equinox does not have built in navigation. That is an upgrade I didn't pay for because I knew I could just use CarPlay for free. Different radios may have different features with CarPlay and maybe the aftermarket radio you were looking at installing didn't support Apple Maps for some reason but the stock radio built into my Chevy works fine without the car having built in navigation.

I strongly disagree. There is a huge difference between a driver deciding to use a windshield mount to watch Netflix while they drive and Apple purposely designing CarPlay to work with Netflix and other video apps. The windshield mount example is the user taking a mount that was designed for many legitimate purposes and using it in an idiotic way. Apple building video support in natively is Apple helping people be idiots while they drive. It's easy to see why Apple would have liability if they built it into CarPlay and not have liability if someone bought a windshield mount that Apple didn't even make.

You are missing the main point. You are confusing maps with navigation. Okay the question is does your radio have a gps chip.
Also as for video, may car can watch Video unless it moving. I will also repeat this. CarPlay has it own os, which is different then iPhone. This means that all the app must be rewritten to be used. However if you want to think that apple is protecting you, instead of their pockets, that okay.

And as for CarPlay, good concept, poor product.
Remember the person want real good information, pro and con on CarPlay, not just apple BS.

Example. Does CarPlay sort maps?, can it creat routes with no cell service? Do you need cell service?

king3pj

Oct 26, 2017

Red_dog said:
You are missing the main point. You are confusing maps with navigation. Okay the question is does your radio have a gps chip.
Also as for video, may car can watch Video unless it moving. I will also repeat this. CarPlay has it own os, which is different then iPhone. This means that all the app must be rewritten to be used. However if you want to think that apple is protecting you, instead of their pockets, that okay.

And as for CarPlay, good concept, poor product.
Remember the person want real good information, pro and con on CarPlay, not just apple BS.

Example. Does CarPlay sort maps?, can it creat routes with no cell service? Do you need cell service?

I don't think I'm the one that's confused. You keep making definitive statements, like you have to pay more to use navigation even though people who actually use CarPlay on a regular basis are telling you that is not correct.

I guess I don't know what you mean when you say that I'm confusing maps with navigation. I can tell you that I use the Apple Maps CarPlay app for turn by turn navigation all the time. CarPlay is communicating with my iPhone that is plugged in via USB to get the map data and GPS signal from the phone. It works the exact same way as the Apple Maps app works natively on the phone. It just moves the map display over to the car's touch screen and sends the audio through the car speakers. My vehicle does not have navigation built in. I can only get navigation if I plug my phone in via USB and use CarPlay.

I don't understand what you mean when you ask if it sorts maps. I've never tried to create a route with no cell service but I'm sure it would not work because that doesn't work with the Apple Maps app on my phone either. That is an advantage for using navigation built into the car instead of CarPlay but I drive in areas with zero cell signal maybe a few times per year. Certainly not often enough to justify bumping up to the next trim level of the Equinox a few thousand dollars just to have built in GPS navigation. CarPlay navigation through Apple Maps works just as well for the areas I drive and it's free.

TheForce

Oct 26, 2017

king3pj said:
I don't understand what you mean when you ask if it sorts maps. I've never tried to create a route with no cell service but I'm sure it would not work because that doesn't work with the Apple Maps app on my phone either.

Don't know what sort maps is either. I did try to create Apple Maps nav to destination without internet connection and it doesn't work. The salesman at Toyota tried to tell me that Apple will download the maps to the phone and if you have no internet it will still work. So we sat in the demo car and tried it and he was proven wrong!

I did some research later in the day to see what my options were if I was out of LTE area and TomTom and CoPilot were the only Nav maps that will work with downloaded maps and work without any internet connection. Set it up, when you are connected at home with fast wifi and then if you get out where you lose LTE and your car play navigation, you'll have TomTom or CoPilot to fall back on. But I'm sure your car will not display either on your car screen. These work in Airplane mode. The downside besides not being able to display on your car screen, is that the maps data base is huge. It will chew up large GB's on your phone. Minimum of 128GB if you download the entire North America as that will consume nearly half of your storage. TomTom is a subscription service that allows free use for up to 49 miles of navigation per trip. But is cheap at $17.99 unlimited distance for a year. CoPilot also is good but like TomTom the maps will eat up your storage. I loaded both on my iphone. CoPilot has Traffic you can add for $10.

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Ramy

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Last reply Today at 6:20 PM · posted in The Sports Section

2026-27 NCAA College Football

Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.

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Yespage

Yesterday at 4:57 PM

24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:

All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
- Independent of record too! Bonus.
MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
I'm out of ideas.

Cons

Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
- Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
Going to start resting players?
- The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
- Resting players could make games dumb.
- Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!

AZ.

Yesterday at 5:30 PM

Yespage said:
24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:

All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff

Independent of record too! Bonus.

MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.

I'm out of ideas.

Cons

Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games

Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff

Going to start resting players?

The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!

Resting players could make games dumb.

Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.

How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!

One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.

Jimbo

Yesterday at 5:47 PM

AZ. said:
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.

There are 68 Power 4 teams, so eventually they will get there I wouldn't imagine ...

AZ.

Yesterday at 9:12 PM

Jimbo said:
There are 68 Power 4 teams, so eventually they will get there I wouldn't imagine ...

Far from it but you know that....You dont like the larger playoff.....Its ok.....

Jimbo

Yesterday at 9:24 PM

AZ. said:
Far from it but you know that....You dont like the larger playoff.....Its ok.....

Oh, I Hate the idea ...

It would be different if it was a game that you could play 2 or games each week, but when you only play 1 game a week, the larger playoff is Not a good thing ...

The season has how many games now, is it 14 ... then you want to play another 5 (with more to come) against Top 12 (eventually 24 teams) ... remember, the 5 games in the playoffs will be the hardest games all year and back to back.

For example, IF Ohio State should win it all this year ... they play 5 teams in the Top 25, plus they would play 5 more to win it all, depending on how the ranking shake out and if Bye weeks are given.

Thats 10 Ranked teams ... in one year ...
I don't see that happening very often ...
Edit, Bama plays 4, Georgia plays 3, But Ole Miss plays 5 (didn't expect to see that)

That said, I don't see the Buckeyes winning it all this year.

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AZ.

Yesterday at 9:27 PM

Jimbo said:
Oh, I Hate the idea ...

It would be different if it was a game that you could play 2 or games each week, but when you only play 1 game a week, the larger playoff is Not a good thing ...

The season has how many games now, is it 14 ... then you want to play another 5 (with more to come) against Top 12 (eventually 24 teams) ... remember, the 5 games in the playoffs will be the hardest games all year and back to back.

For example, IF Ohio State should win it all this year ... they play 5 teams in the Top 25, plus they would play 5 more to win it all, depending on how the ranking shake out and if Bye weeks are given.

Thats 10 Ranked teams ... in one year ...
I don't see that happening very often ...

That said, I don't see the Buckeyes winning it all this year.

Yes anyone here knows you 100%....Astros failed no posting...Ohio state loses we hear it.....Its ok....Its called an opinion....I have one so do you.....Problem is?

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Jimbo

Yesterday at 10:07 PM

AZ. said:
Yes anyone here knows you 100%....Astros failed no posting...Ohio state loses we hear it.....Its ok....Its called an opinion....I have one so do you.....Problem is?

Seeing theres very little activity in the MLB threads, it wouldn't matter if I posted that the Astros didn't make the Playoffs ...

Theres more NFL info in the Pub section than in the Sports/NFL thread.

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Jimbo

Yesterday at 10:54 PM

IF they go to 24 teams, and it looks like they will soon ....
Do we Really want Teams with 3 and 4 losses in the Playoffs ?
Is a 3-4 Loss team one thats able to win 4-5 more games against Top teams ?

Yespage

Today at 10:04 AM

AZ. said:
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

A 12 team playoff net should catch any undefeated team. The 12 team playoff also exposed that rankings suck. I mean, we kind of knew already that the rankings weren't particularly reproducible, but we now have the empirical evidence that the rankings suck because judging who is the best among a mickey mouse scheduled football season isn't a rational endeavor. So the 12 team playoff ensures most teams that should make it, do, including the mid-major undefeated team. 8 teams should be able to work as well, but puts greater risk at OSU and Alabama missing the playoff... can't have that.

Which is the run up to my main problem with the 24 team set up is that it is designed to keep the OSU's and Alabama's from missing the playoff. The cartels are ensuring widespread participation for their own cartels to increase the monetary reward to themselves. It is fixing the system while not fixing the outcomes, merely making the regular season game outcomes virtually irrelevant. Sure, a bye for winning the conference would be nice, but we've already seen that byes aren't that influential.

AZ. said:
We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.

That is college football in a nutshell. Again, college football isn't about competition, it is about revenue. The entire setup is about making money, from regular season squash games against local jobbers like the WWF days to tax exempt bowl games.

And to add to the first world woes, the college football cartels have made being a College Football fan even more expensive... so they can get paid more.

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meStevo

Today at 6:20 PM

Jimbo said:
Theres more NFL info in the Pub section than in the Sports/NFL thread.

Nah, you just don't understand how ignore works, which is why you made your own NFL thread thinking there wasn't one

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Anony55

Last reply Today at 5:37 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

DISH Has Made it Impossible to be a VIP211k Owner

For quite a while now, people with a VIP211k have been losing their recordings on their activated external HDDs... even when there's nothing physically wrong with HDD. I believe this is an intentional and underhanded tactic that Dish is pulling in an attempt to force users away from the VIP211k.

They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.

Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.

On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.

It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.

I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.

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Nebugeater

Dec 22, 2025

Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally

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tparker

Sep 30, 2026

Nebugeater said:
Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally

Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.

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Nebugeater

Oct 2, 2026

tparker said:
Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.

Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion

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Anony55

Yesterday at 6:18 PM

Well, after nine months of being on pause, I finally figured out that I was wasting $5 a month. So I cancelled. For the first time since 2010, I no longer have a Dish account.

I do have to say that I did appreciate the account pause option. That just gives a person some time to see what the fallout of cancelling will be... without having to go all the way over the cliff first.

Since I never once had an "oh shoot, I need Dish Network for..." moment, the decision was a lot easier.

Funny enough, when I called to cancel (for real, not playing the pricing game), all of a sudden, they were offering me deals that I was told before that I couldn't get without changing out my VIP211k. Now, I could have had those specials with them just sending me a new card for the receiver. LOL!

Of course, my mind was already made up because of having not missed the service while on pause. That, and the fact that I bet the 211k still kills recordings.

All in all, I'm glad that I had Dish for all those years. I just outgrew the need, and they pressed the issue by deleting recordings. I would have eventually went this route without the deleted recordings issue. But, for sure, that did hasten the outcome.

I'll still pop in at this site from time to time. Believe it or not, I still have a C/Ku BUD that I intend on playing with again if life ever slows down.

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dishstaller

Today at 11:31 AM

Nebugeater said:
Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion

Unless things have changed at Dish, which is entirely possible, they won't activate the 211, even as a replacement. I gave one to a customer a while back....which when I turned it off I made sure to tell the CSR I wanted it freed up so another customer could use it, I was assured it was.....and when they called to swap out there's they were told it couldn't be done. Now like I said, things MIGHT HAVE CHANGED.

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Anony55

Today at 4:19 PM

dishstaller said:
Unless things have changed at Dish, which is entirely possible, they won't activate the 211, even as a replacement. I gave one to a customer a while back....which when I turned it off I made sure to tell the CSR I wanted it freed up so another customer could use it, I was assured it was.....and when they called to swap out there's they were told it couldn't be done. Now like I said, things MIGHT HAVE CHANGED.

It hasn't changed. When I cancelled my service the other day, they told me I didn't need to return the receiver (which I already knew because I purchased it).

But in addition to that, the young man told me not to sell it, but to take it to a recycling place. The reason he gave for the advice was because 211Ks can no longer be activated.

So as far as the VIP211k goes... once grandpa dies, he's dead.

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telstar_1

Today at 5:37 PM

They tell you to trash it and not to sell simply because they're phasing them out, not particularly because someone might be "confused" into buying it and not be able to activate. They tell people that in every case where they're not acting to get a box back, either from a replacement or service cancel.

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Former member 209992

Last reply Today at 5:37 PM · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center

Site is slooooow

For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.

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Yesterday at 3:39 PM

Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat.

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Yesterday at 3:42 PM

Scott Greczkowski said:
Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat.

WTF… …What the Foxbat!

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 12:29 AM

Foxbat said:
WTF… …What the Foxbat!

wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you :biggrin

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Foxbat

Today at 12:38 AM

slow_poke_pete said:
wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you

I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 6:03 AM

Foxbat said:
I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:

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OMG to freaking funny :biggrin

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comfortably_numb

Today at 11:31 AM

Foxbat said:
I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:

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Not likely since that place closed down.

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Foxbat

Today at 5:37 PM

comfortably_numb said:
Not likely since that place closed down.

You're no fun.

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Therm

Last reply Today at 4:01 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Am I the only one that hates what Dish did to their mobile app?

I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?

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dishstaller

Today at 12:56 PM

I really dislike change for the sake of change

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dishdude

Today at 2:51 PM

I like the new look, it's a lot cleaner. I'm using it on one of those Onn streaming devices when I travel.

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Therm

Today at 3:39 PM

dishdude said:
I like the new look, it's a lot cleaner. I'm using it on one of those Onn streaming devices when I travel.

Yes a lot cleaner, glossier, and less functional. Someone trying to justify why they are making a big salary. "See look shiny"

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navychop

Today at 3:53 PM

"Big salary." Charlie. "?Big?"

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Tampa8

Today at 4:01 PM

Seems in some ways better. Nicer layout, as others said maybe cleaner. Moving ahead in the guide is better.

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Foxbat

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Last reply Today at 3:48 PM · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum

New Apple TV 4K released, plus other Apple Home devices.

Apple has finally released their Apple TV 4K with built-in Siri and a microphone so it can respond to your queries even if you don't have the remote. It also increases in price, to $299. I had been planning on updating my current Apple TV 4K streamers, but that's $600 for the two of them, and that's a pass at this point.

At $299, it had better come with 256 GB of Storage, Gigabit (or better) Ethernet, the latest HDMI tech and standards, and one year of free Apple One. But it probably won't…

Apple TV 4K

Apple TV 4K. New Siri AI and hands-free control. Stunning picture and immersive HomePod surround sound. Works with your Apple and smart home devices.

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Ronnie-

Tuesday at 9:19 PM

Meh. The 4Ks I have will do everything that these do that I need them to do.

Which that's most tech these days for anything released the last four to five years.

It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.

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navychop

Tuesday at 9:31 PM

Ronnie- said:
It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.

Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.

navychop

Yesterday at 12:55 PM

Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?

KAB

Yesterday at 7:46 PM

navychop said:
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?

Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 12:08 AM

navychop said:
Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.

they all do that anyways.. ever notice your cell phone slows down when you come up for an upgrade.. :what

. apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while

ncted

Today at 9:00 AM

KAB said:
Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!

Yeah, they boot up a bit slower than Roku, but the OS does a lot more, so it makes sense. How often are you booting them up that is a differentiator? Aside from OS updates, mine are on all the time. I will say the ATV4K is generally quicker than the Roku Ultras I have, when it comes to launching apps and responsiveness, not that the Roku is sluggish.

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navychop

Today at 2:31 PM

slow_poke_pete said:
apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while

What software? For iPhones? I tried to buy some image s/w IN THE APPLE STORE! They had none, and could not offer ANY s/w for iPhones

ncted

Today at 3:45 PM

slow_poke_pete said:
apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while

I assume you mean services, like iCloud and Apple Music, and not actual software sales. Services have been growing quickly for Apple, but hardware still brings home the bacon. As for where Apple's revenue comes from, the iPhone is still king with 49.58% of revenue as of June 2026. Services comes in second with 28%. iPad, Mac, and Wearables/Home makes up the rest. So, that is 72% coming from hardware. Their profit margin is around 25%, FWIW.

I am skeptical the AppleTV 4k makes them much money on the hardware though, which I suspect is what you were getting at.

ncted

Today at 3:46 PM

navychop said:
What software? For iPhones? I tried to buy some image s/w IN THE APPLE STORE! They had none, and could not offer ANY s/w for iPhones

You should have looked in the APP STORE instead.

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navychop

Today at 3:48 PM

Will do!

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cpdretired

Supporting Founder

Last reply Today at 3:29 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Offers

Several Dish offers showed up today in my account. Once you choose one the rest are removed. Offers were Showtime, Starz, AMC and others.

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bnewt

Sep 23, 2026

Just checked my account and it shows mgm+ at 8.00 per month, but that has red line drawn thru it and shows 0.00 per month. But it doesn't say how long this lasts,...... 1 month, 3 months, forever. I called customer service to get an answer, and they said nothing like that exists. Should I add the offer or not? Already paying them too much, but want to take advantage of something free.

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slow_poke_pete

Yesterday at 11:45 PM

bnewt said:
Just checked my account and it shows mgm+ at 8.00 per month, but that has red line drawn thru it and shows 0.00 per month. But it doesn't say how long this lasts,...... 1 month, 3 months, forever. I called customer service to get an answer, and they said nothing like that exists. Should I add the offer or not? Already paying them too much, but want to take advantage of something free.

look again mine says free for 1 month

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Almighty1

Today at 2:13 AM

slow_poke_pete said:
look again mine says free for 1 month

Not for me, mines has no mention of how long aka the offer period and the Terms and conditions the $0.00 is good for. All I see is one can lose $5.00 if you decide to remove it before day 31 after you add it to the account.

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 6:02 AM

Almighty1 said:
Not for me, mines has no mention of how long aka the offer period and the Terms and conditions the $0.00 is good for. All I see is one can lose $5.00 if you decide to remove it before day 31 after you add it to the account.

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wonder why it says that

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Almighty1

Today at 3:07 PM

slow_poke_pete said:
look again mine says free for 1 month

You have a different offer that is free for a shorter timeframe which is different than the one that I and bnewt saw without defining the promotion period as I sent the question to DISH Care via Facebook Messenger and this is the response I got back 20 minutes ago.

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Almighty1

Today at 3:29 PM

slow_poke_pete said:
wonder why it says that

Answer 2 minutes ago from DISH Care via Facebook Messenger:

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Today at 2:23 PM · posted in TWiT Tech Podcast Network

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