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Last reply · posted in DIRECTV General Forum
I got the new guide update with HDR functionality the other day. Last night I tried watching the Wisconsin basketball game in 4K and noticed the picture was extremely washed out. When I brought up the guide, it too was extremely dim and washed out. Messing with the picture settings did little to help.

My guess is this has something to do with how my TV is receiving the HDR signal from the C61K. I know the tv is receding an hdr signal from the C61k because it came up with an "HLGHDR" notification on my screen.

Anyway, I was wondering if anyone else has had this issue after receiving the upgrade and if you have any suggestions on how to fix it.

Current equipment: LG OLED 55 in (2016) (OLED55B6P) connected to C61K Genie mini which is connected to Genie 2.

I get HDR content through the on board LG apps (Netflix and Amazon) and haven't had this issue. I also have an Xbox One S hooked up to my tv and have never had this trouble running HDR content on it.
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Jimbo
My guide does not show the HDR symbol but does show it in 4K.
E
My guide does not show the HDR symbol but does show it in 4K.

Me, too. We have HR44s, you have to have the 4K client to see all this fancy stuff. We dont even see the banner for the Brian Setzer Orchestra concert in 4K, which is fine.
Jimbo
Me, too. We have HR44s, you have to have the 4K client to see all this fancy stuff. We dont even see the banner for the Brian Setzer Orchestra concert in 4K, which is fine.
Well, we can't add the 4K client and get the shows in 4k anyways, so why do we even see the channels in the guide ?
dishman1
I got the new guide update with HDR functionality the other day. Last night I tried watching the Wisconsin basketball game in 4K and noticed the picture was extremely washed out. When I brought up the guide, it too was extremely dim and washed out. Messing with the picture settings did little to help.

My guess is this has something to do with how my TV is receiving the HDR signal from the C61K. I know the tv is receding an hdr signal from the C61k because it came up with an "HLGHDR" notification on my screen.

Anyway, I was wondering if anyone else has had this issue after receiving the upgrade and if you have any suggestions on how to fix it.

Current equipment: LG OLED 55 in (2016) (OLED55B6P) connected to C61K Genie mini which is connected to Genie 2.

I get HDR content through the on board LG apps (Netflix and Amazon) and haven't had this issue. I also have an Xbox One S hooked up to my tv and have never had this trouble running HDR content on it.[/QI got the update a couple of days ago unwatchable I red button reset on the HS17 after that finished I reset each client it was been working flalessly since
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Well, we can't add the 4K client and get the shows in 4k anyways, so why do we even see the channels in the guide ?

Good question. Probably so we can see the 4K content and want it so badly that we "upgrade" to a 54 or HS17 with a client...

Technically, the 4K is on the satellites we see and the programming is in the packages we receive, and the reverse band isn't in use yet, so there is nothing technical stopping us from seeing the channels, like the 3D channel.
dishman1

Received the update a couple of days ago what I did worked for me I Red Button Reset the HS17 let it go through the process and after it was complete I RBR The C61K clients problem solved no futher issues good luck
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I don't know what Directv's intentions are but I find this strange.

Channel 104 is sending HLG HDR as confirmed by my HDFury Vertex.

Input signal: 4K60 4:2:0 BT.2020 12-bit HDR
EOTF: HLG ITU-R BT.2100-0

This looks good.

But when I change to a SDR channel such as 101 Audience my Vertex is still reporting HDR input but an SDR EOTF:

Input signal: 720P60 444 BT.2020 10-bit HDR
EOTF: SDR Luminance Range

It doesn't make any sense to me that Directv would be including HDR metadata for SDR content. I think this might be a bug. It's not true HDR and it's not HLG either. It's SDR with zeroed out HDR metadata.
J
I don't know what Directv's intentions are but I find this strange.

Channel 104 is sending HLG HDR as confirmed by my HDFury Vertex.

Input signal: 4K60 4:2:0 BT.2020 12-bit HDR
EOTF: HLG ITU-R BT.2100-0

This looks good.

But when I change to a SDR channel such as 101 Audience my Vertex is still reporting HDR input but an SDR EOTF:

Input signal: 720P60 444 BT.2020 10-bit HDR
EOTF: SDR Luminance Range

It doesn't make any sense to me that Directv would be including HDR metadata for SDR content. I think this might be a bug. It's not true HDR and it's not HLG either. It's SDR with zeroed out HDR metadata.

I don't really know the technicalities so this is just my guess. It could just as easily be a bug.

However, it appears the point of using HLG for HDR is precisely because it doesn't use metadata at all. As the article below explains, using metadata for broadcast tv is not ideal, and HLG is a process that eliminates many of those potential issues.

So I suppose it is possible that if you were to evaluate the Genie inputs from a technical standpoint it might always read HLG now, it just doesn't actually go into HLG mode until the extra wavelengths (or whatever non meta data it is) are present. That's just a guess though.

All about HLG: What Hybrid log gamma means for your TV
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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Juan
Not alot of dish customers any more
Foxbat
I'm not a big fan of the new layout, especially on my Apple TV. It used to look like the old Guide layout on the Hopper 3, but they changed parts of that, too.
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dishstaller
I really dislike change for the sake of change
dishdude
I like the new look, it's a lot cleaner. I'm using it on one of those Onn streaming devices when I travel.
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Apple has finally released their Apple TV 4K with built-in Siri and a microphone so it can respond to your queries even if you don't have the remote. It also increases in price, to $299. I had been planning on updating my current Apple TV 4K streamers, but that's $600 for the two of them, and that's a pass at this point.

At $299, it had better come with 256 GB of Storage, Gigabit (or better) Ethernet, the latest HDMI tech and standards, and one year of free Apple One. But it probably won't…
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Ronnie-
Meh. The 4Ks I have will do everything that these do that I need them to do.


Which that's most tech these days for anything released the last four to five years.


It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.
navychop
It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.

Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.
navychop
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
KAB
KAB
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!
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Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.
they all do that anyways.. ever notice your cell phone slows down when you come up for an upgrade.. :what. apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
ncted
ever notice your cell phone slows down when you come up for an upgrade
No. Makes me wonder if that is Apple or the carrier. I am on pre-paid, so I never get "an upgrade." I still have my old iPhone 11 Pro as a second line, and it runs iOS 27 just fine. My iPhone Air, which is still a current model, doesn't really seem that much faster in regular use. It is better in other ways, and worse in some ways than the 11 Pro (size), but performance really isn't a big differentiator, especially since I replaced the battery in the 11 Pro. If I had gotten enough storage when I originally bought the 11 Pro, it could still be my primary device with no issues.
ncted
Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!
Yeah, they boot up a bit slower than Roku, but the OS does a lot more, so it makes sense. How often are you booting them up that is a differentiator? Aside from OS updates, mine are on all the time. I will say the ATV4K is generally quicker than the Roku Ultras I have, when it comes to launching apps and responsiveness, not that the Roku is sluggish.
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apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while

What software? For iPhones? I tried to buy some image s/w IN THE APPLE STORE! They had none, and could not offer ANY s/w for iPhones
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Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
dishstaller
Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
But.....if you like Tulsa King....looks like you would probably like this as well. I don't mind spin-offs as long as they don't involve a sassy niece who moves from the big city :rolleyes:
TheRatPatrol
Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Jimbo

Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
Jimbo
Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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Would you rather have LaRoche ???
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
Jimbo
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.

It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.
dishstaller
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Last reply · posted in Movie Talk
Might be worth a watch when it comes out. Looks like typical big corp against the little guy movie BUT....there is a reason this plot type is so oft repeated, it draws audiences.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-f9OGsKHd4
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dishstaller
BTW, I noticed right after I posted this that someone else had already mentioned it....sorry for the duplicate thread. Still looking forward to seeing the movie.
meStevo
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If you're going try to read / listen to the book (can't recommend the audio book enough) before this comes out, I'd avoid trailers.

Trailer below, spoiling it to make sure you read the above bold message first. The book / audio book are fantastic. Go into this blind if you can IMO!




Kind of disappointed at how much they show. A lot still to see, but man, some good reveals in the book that are just served up here.
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I've seen it twice. Can't recommend the audio book enough, Ray Porter's performance is amazing and there's so much more in the book than the movie.
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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
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Forgot to comment. I did watch when it first came out on MGM. I enjoyed it a lot. I think reading the book made it easier to watch. Several friends commented it was a little hard to follow.
TRG
TRG
"astrophage". I read the book but didn't see the film yet.
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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
That's what I will be watching this weekend.🤗
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K
Kindle book on sale for $2.99 today at Amazon.
dishstaller
.........there's so much more in the book than the movie.
I agree. That can go for pretty much any book vs movie. Back when I was single I would read any Stephen King or John Grisham book I could get my hands on. When you read a book you make up the scenes and characters in your mind.....the movie version always disappoints.