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he lack of a 4k dvr, the laughable hs17 and its issues, and the atrocity of the new guide actually have me looking at dish, something i said i would never do when i left them before


these are my only 2 options

does anyone know if directv has anything in the pipe worth waiting on?
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Claude Greiner
I'll never go back to Dish. Tivo is a good alternative
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I'll never go back to Dish. Tivo is a good alternative

tivo for ota? that would be 3 channels here, maybe 4.
and there is no cable.

i have 2 choices. dish or directv
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Even if 50% of deployed TVs were 4k capable, the problem is where the content is being produced.

Youtube is rich with 4k content because flagship smartphones and action cameras like GoPro have been able to shoot in 4k for the last few years. So you have a strong starting base there on top of the semi-pro video producers uploading their content to Youtube.

Netflix and Amazon Prime have 4k content, but it's primarily for the content that is being exclusively developed for their content library. So you can watch Stranger Things (Netflix) or The Grand Tour (Amazon Prime) in 4k, but 99.99% of the non-exclusive content tops out at HD.

For the movie rental business, 4k is being offered for some films, but only as a means of extracting more money from your wallet. 4k Blu-ray discs command a ridiculous premium over standard Blu-ray. On Google Play and Vudu, you can rent or buy 4k movies to stream at a higher cost than the HD versions. Apple is offering 4k for the same price as HD on iTunes, but only if you go out and purchase an AppleTV 4k.

When it comes to live TV, look at what FOX Sports is doing now: College Football Preview: Fox Sports To Produce 13 Games in 4K
Their big news is that they had a single 4k capable production truck that they were sending around to cover 13 college football games, and that's an effort by FOX Sports Labs -- not really even part of their mainstream offering.

We have a long, long way to go before broadcast 4k is anything more than a gimmick.
raoul5788
Even if 50% of deployed TVs were 4k capable, the problem is where the content is being produced.

Youtube is rich with 4k content because flagship smartphones and action cameras like GoPro have been able to shoot in 4k for the last few years. So you have a strong starting base there on top of the semi-pro video producers uploading their content to Youtube.

Netflix and Amazon Prime have 4k content, but it's primarily for the content that is being exclusively developed for their content library. So you can watch Stranger Things (Netflix) or The Grand Tour (Amazon Prime) in 4k, but 99.99% of the non-exclusive content tops out at HD.

For the movie rental business, 4k is being offered for some films, but only as a means of extracting more money from your wallet. 4k Blu-ray discs command a ridiculous premium over standard Blu-ray. On Google Play and Vudu, you can rent or buy 4k movies to stream at a higher cost than the HD versions. Apple is offering 4k for the same price as HD on iTunes, but only if you go out and purchase an AppleTV 4k.

When it comes to live TV, look at what FOX Sports is doing now: College Football Preview: Fox Sports To Produce 13 Games in 4K
Their big news is that they had a single 4k capable production truck that they were sending around to cover 13 college football games, and that's an effort by FOX Sports Labs -- not really even part of their mainstream offering.

We have a long, long way to go before broadcast 4k is anything more than a gimmick.
HD started on Directv with three or four channels. Patience grasshopper! ;)
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HD started on Directv with three or four channels. Patience grasshopper! ;)
If you started when they had those handful of channels, you also needed to do a receiver swap once they really started cranking things up because they moved from MPEG2 to MPEG4. That was kind of my point about this being the wrong time to jump in on 4k broadcast hardware. The current 4k solution that DirecTV has really only makes sense if you're starting as a new subscriber - it doesn't do much for you, but it also doesn't cost you anything extra as a new sub.

DirecTV also had a dedicated 3D channel. How's that doing now?
Jimbo
HD started on Directv with three or four channels. Patience grasshopper! ;)
HD Net may have been the 1st, its been awhile, I know it was one of the earliest ones if not the first ... Thank You Mr. Cuban.
Jimbo
Even if 50% of deployed TVs were 4k capable, the problem is where the content is being produced.

Youtube is rich with 4k content because flagship smartphones and action cameras like GoPro have been able to shoot in 4k for the last few years. So you have a strong starting base there on top of the semi-pro video producers uploading their content to Youtube.

Netflix and Amazon Prime have 4k content, but it's primarily for the content that is being exclusively developed for their content library. So you can watch Stranger Things (Netflix) or The Grand Tour (Amazon Prime) in 4k, but 99.99% of the non-exclusive content tops out at HD.

For the movie rental business, 4k is being offered for some films, but only as a means of extracting more money from your wallet. 4k Blu-ray discs command a ridiculous premium over standard Blu-ray. On Google Play and Vudu, you can rent or buy 4k movies to stream at a higher cost than the HD versions. Apple is offering 4k for the same price as HD on iTunes, but only if you go out and purchase an AppleTV 4k.

When it comes to live TV, look at what FOX Sports is doing now: College Football Preview: Fox Sports To Produce 13 Games in 4K
Their big news is that they had a single 4k capable production truck that they were sending around to cover 13 college football games, and that's an effort by FOX Sports Labs -- not really even part of their mainstream offering.

We have a long, long way to go before broadcast 4k is anything more than a gimmick.
Your post for the most part was quite accurate, except for the glaring statement that 4k is a Gimmick.
Jimbo
If you started when they had those handful of channels, you also needed to do a receiver swap once they really started cranking things up because they moved from MPEG2 to MPEG4. That was kind of my point about this being the wrong time to jump in on 4k broadcast hardware. The current 4k solution that DirecTV has really only makes sense if you're starting as a new subscriber - it doesn't do much for you, but it also doesn't cost you anything extra as a new sub.

DirecTV also had a dedicated 3D channel. How's that doing now?
I was there at the beginning of HD and swapped out different dishes and LNBs to do so, it was fun ....
I was also one of the first to start showing people HD in the area ...
I threw an old antenna outside and was able to get the Locals in HD ... back then it was only for a few hours a night.
I was on the phone with the Chief Engineer at Fox (local) when they first flipped the switch to show HD, it was the telecast of the MLB World Series I believe, probably around 2001... It was interesting watching the show and when they went to a commercial break, the Engineer said when we come back you should have HD, and they DID !

Also back in the day, same time frame, when you knew the show should be in HD, it would come on and it may be in SD, make a call to them on Commercial and remind them to Flip the switch to HD, and they did when they came back ....

Back then, it WAS a switch .... now all that is done with the computer now.
raoul5788
HD Net may have been the 1st, its been awhile, I know it was one of the earliest ones if not the first ... Thank You Mr. Cuban.
I think it was the first. That's how I remember it anyways.
xterra
he lack of a 4k dvr, the laughable hs17 and its issues, and the atrocity of the new guide actually have me looking at dish, something i said i would never do when i left them before


these are my only 2 options

does anyone know if directv has anything in the pipe worth waiting on?
he lack of a 4k dvr, the laughable hs17 and its issues, and the atrocity of the new guide actually have me looking at dish, something i said i would never do when i left them before


these are my only 2 options

does anyone know if directv has anything in the pipe worth waiting on?
DirecTV can't even get there genie 2 to work let alone 4k service
Claude Greiner
tivo for ota? that would be 3 channels here, maybe 4.
and there is no cable.

i have 2 choices. dish or directv

I have both. I record all my network shows on the TIVO OTA to free up tuners on my cable card TIVO
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
· posted in Movie Talk
Might be worth a watch when it comes out. Looks like typical big corp against the little guy movie BUT....there is a reason this plot type is so oft repeated, it draws audiences.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-f9OGsKHd4
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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Juan
Not alot of dish customers any more
Foxbat
I'm not a big fan of the new layout, especially on my Apple TV. It used to look like the old Guide layout on the Hopper 3, but they changed parts of that, too.
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meStevo
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Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
A big win for the Patriots, and they are now 3-2.

Browns lose a close one with... The Jets. That is a classic Browns loss (granted, any loss is a classic one it seems). 49'ers, Vikings, and Chiefs remain undefeated. The AFC north have a three way tie at 3-2 for second place. :eek:
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
After having experienced Gus Ferguson trying to call soccer games, I'm uncertain why NFL football analysts get hate. Even the "worst" of them are pretty good.
meStevo
Jalen Hurts out indefinitely as they treat and monitor a superficial blood clot in his leg.


View: https://x.com/RapSheet/status/2111074303185989663?s=20
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dishstaller
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· posted in TV Shows
I had quit watching this show years ago because I ended up more annoyed than entertained. Well......I'm STILL more annoyed than entertained. I DO find it interesting to see how things work behind the scenes at many businesses. What annoys me is how utterly out of touch CEOs are with the companies they run. At the end of almost every episode the head of the company is amazed at how hard the employees have to work and many times have to work around impossible guidelines set forth from headquarters.

I found this one interesting because the new CEO had big plans for this company, Muscle Maker Grill, and it looked like the stores were all pretty busy. Recent history hasn't been good to this company however. I bet the covid lockdowns were the real killer.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIhZm0qkz0o
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Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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White Wedding - Billy Idol
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White Christmas - Elvis Presley
dishstaller
Dirty White Boy - Foreigner
Bobby
Tickle Me (Dirty, Dirty Feeling) - Elvis Presley
dishstaller
Dirty Diana - Michael Jackson
osu1991
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Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
Anony55
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
For quite a while now, people with a VIP211k have been losing their recordings on their activated external HDDs... even when there's nothing physically wrong with HDD. I believe this is an intentional and underhanded tactic that Dish is pulling in an attempt to force users away from the VIP211k.

They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.

Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.

On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.

It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.

I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.
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Nebugeater
Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally
Former member 208119
Class action.
a hopper 3 with 6 firesticks and or if you wanna spend even more money apple tv's
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Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally
Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.
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Nebugeater
Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.


Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion
Anony55
Well, after nine months of being on pause, I finally figured out that I was wasting $5 a month. So I cancelled. For the first time since 2010, I no longer have a Dish account.

I do have to say that I did appreciate the account pause option. That just gives a person some time to see what the fallout of cancelling will be... without having to go all the way over the cliff first.

Since I never once had an "oh shoot, I need Dish Network for..." moment, the decision was a lot easier.

Funny enough, when I called to cancel (for real, not playing the pricing game), all of a sudden, they were offering me deals that I was told before that I couldn't get without changing out my VIP211k. Now, I could have had those specials with them just sending me a new card for the receiver. LOL!

Of course, my mind was already made up because of having not missed the service while on pause. That, and the fact that I bet the 211k still kills recordings.

All in all, I'm glad that I had Dish for all those years. I just outgrew the need, and they pressed the issue by deleting recordings. I would have eventually went this route without the deleted recordings issue. But, for sure, that did hasten the outcome.

I'll still pop in at this site from time to time. Believe it or not, I still have a C/Ku BUD that I intend on playing with again if life ever slows down.
dishstaller
Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion
Unless things have changed at Dish, which is entirely possible, they won't activate the 211, even as a replacement. I gave one to a customer a while back....which when I turned it off I made sure to tell the CSR I wanted it freed up so another customer could use it, I was assured it was.....and when they called to swap out there's they were told it couldn't be done. Now like I said, things MIGHT HAVE CHANGED.
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Former member 209992
Last reply · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center
For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Scott Greczkowski
Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. :D
Foxbat
Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. :D
WTF… …What the Foxbat!😱
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zipping right along here
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WTF… …What the Foxbat!😱
wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you :biggrin
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Foxbat
wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you :biggrin
I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:
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I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:
OMG to freaking funny :biggrin
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comfortably_numb
I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:

Not likely since that place closed down.
TheRatPatrol
Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Jimbo

Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
Jimbo
Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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dfergie
I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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Howard Simmons
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.