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Pansat 3500s vs. Coolsat 4000 Pro
Image Quality Shootout

By W. Tracy Parnell

With the release of the new 1.3 firmware for the Coolsat 4000 Pro, the battle between that receiver and the Pansat 3500s has reached a new level of intensity. Prospective buyers "on the fence" may need every bit of information they can digest before committing to purchase. With that in mind, I thought I would try an image quality comparison of these popular units. By the way, all Coolsat images are with the 1.2 firmware.

First, the methods used need to be described. Both units were connected to my TV via S-Video. My TV doesn't have component connections or I would have run a test with the Pansat to check on the quality difference vs. the Coolsat with S-Video. A Pioneer 220s DVD recorder (1 hour setting) was used to acquire footage. Next, Ulead Moviefactory 3 was used for screen captures. The resulting images were then loaded into Adobe Photoshop 7 where sharpening was applied (level 3) using Intellisharpen by Fred Miranda. No other image processing was used. The images were saved in jpeg format at level 6 compression. A slight size variance may be seen in the side-by-side comparison images possibly explained by differences in the way the DVD Recorder handled the two receivers or by Photoshop manipulation.

First Image Series- Almaghribia Test Pattern

I was somewhat surprised to find that there is a discernable picture difference especially in the way the machines handle color saturation. The most noticeable difference is in the red color, which appears to be not only more saturated on the Pansat but also a slightly different hue. The deep blue is brighter and again more saturated on the Pansat as are the purple and light green in that row. The remaining colors seem to be more similar than they are different to my eye. Greys and blacks seem to be equal while the Coolsat appears to show a somewhat brighter white. Sharpness is about equal.



Second Image Series-CCTV 9

Again, the Pansat's more saturated color is evident and easily seen in the girl's red scarf and the deep blue background. The blue-green background color on the left seems to be less affected while skin tones appear to be fairly similar to my eye. Again, sharpness seems to be about equal.

In conclusion, I found that the Pansat has a bit more color saturation, especially in reds and deep blues and purples. These colors could also be described as brighter. In fact, the color may be too vivid for some. The Coolsat has an understated color palate that could appeal to many. It also seems to have a purer and brighter white while keeping good blacks and greys. You may disagree with my assessment and I certainly don't claim to be an expert. So take this review for what it is; one man's look at the subtle yet undeniable differences in the way these units display images.
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voomvoom
W. Tracy Parnell,
Good review, but naturally I see things a little different.
First Image Series:
To me they both look saturated. The Pansat being brighter, may make it more noticeable. But the Coolsat still has it. It's just a bit more dull.
Second Image Series:
I don't notice any saturation in either of the units. The Pansat is simply brighter. Like you said. The prospective buyers will need to chose which suits them best. Both units have beautiful pictures.
Since I have a Pansat and not a Coolsat, I'll have to push for the Pansat. You'll understand (I hope).

All in all a very Good Review.
W_Tracy_Parnell
voomvoom said:
W. Tracy Parnell,
Good review, but naturally I see things a little different.
First Image Series:
To me they both look saturated. The Pansat being brighter, may make it more noticeable. But the Coolsat still has it. It's just a bit more dull.
Second Image Series:
I don't notice any saturation in either of the units. The Pansat is simply brighter. Like you said. The prospective buyers will need to chose which suits them best. Both units have beautiful pictures.
Since I have a Pansat and not a Coolsat, I'll have to push for the Pansat. You'll understand (I hope).

All in all a very Good Review.

No problem, I expect to get many differing opinions on this review. :) I actually prefer the colors on the Pansat too.
T
Hi Tracy in you first set of picture the one with both (small) picture the coolsat red look more like maroon while the pansat look red, the
darker colors look better on the pansat while the lighter colors look better on the coolsat,
I have a pansat 3500 on its way, expecting it hopefully by Saturday. Thank for the great review looking forward to more from you and iceberg..tumpy
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tumpy said:
Hi Tracy in you first set of picture the one with both (small) picture the coolsat red look more like maroon while the pansat look red, the
darker colors look better on the pansat while the lighter colors look better on the coolsat,
I have a pansat 3500 on its way, expecting it hopefully by Saturday. Thank for the great review looking forward to more from you and iceberg..tumpy


Tumpy,

I agree with you about the difference in the reds and I prefer the video of the Pansat overall. However, I am using the Coolsat as my main unit because of the new firmware update-love the new blind scan they have. Now if Pansat follows with an update it would be great.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
Be nice to see a Cowboy headline like that.
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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:

Can we expect to see a new coach if we say "pretty please?"
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Jeeez, Week 6, no lead is safe…
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No idea what improvements might be involved.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
long_time_Dish
They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
Oh, you mean "soon"? :biggrin
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It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
I guess they will be busy when lots of people start asking for rollbacks to H708 now that you mention that downgrades of software does exist because it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner and the IR Remote problems in H710-H713.
navychop
it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner

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it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner
🤣

Oh....you were serious
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Hondo is back with a new squad 9/25 only on Starz.


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Never watched the previous shows, so doubtful.
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Started watching yesterday. Not too bad.
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I like Zyra from La Brea (one with the prosthetic).
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Stargate SG-1 cancelled, Atlantis renewed
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Monday - August 21, 2006 | by Darren Sumner
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The future of Stargate is in question today, as SCI FI Channel has cancelled the long-running Stargate SG-1, Multichannel News reported today and a GateWorld source has confirmed. The news regrettably follows the airing of the show's milestone two-hundredth episode on Friday.

Stargate Atlantis, meanwhile, has been renewed for a fourth season, with the network hoping to see that the spin-off series can stand alone, according to a source.
Source Gateworld
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I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
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I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
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Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
long_time_Dish
Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
If I understand your question, O'Neill had the Ancient's knowledge in the "Lost City" two-part episode. That was when Anubis attacked Earth and there was a big battle over Antarctica.
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Best fan sign I saw during the ND-BYU game: "Bear ate your Lucky Charms!" (Bear being the Cougars' QB). I was going to suggest, "Have you or your team been involved in a Carr crash?"
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
Yup, I agree, I'd rather be 2 or 3 till the last few weeks.
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