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Why does Whole Home not work on my setup???

Hi, I thought I already posted this question but I can't find it right now so I will try again.

Yesterday, I was told I don't need INTERNET to be able use Whole Home.

Here WAS my setup.

SL3 LNB SWM dish.
1x4 splitter with power connected to the power special port for that purpose.
The other 3 ports then went to the following.

1- Genie HR34 (which died this past weekend) on one TV

1- Genie Mini (C31) (still functional but disconnected for now) on a second TV

1- HR22 that we brought with us from our old home

Since the Genie is now dead, I called Directv a few days ago and they deactivated the HR34 and the Genie Mini and in their place they REACTIVATED to older HR20-700's that we also brought with us from our old home and Directv did not want them back 3 1/2 years ago. So I stored them.

I got both of those HR20's up and running after getting some help from you guys about how to configure them for SWM.

The HR22 was and still is connected to the internet via it's DECA that was setup by Directv 3 1/2 years ago. But neither of the HR20's is connected to the internet because there was/is NO DECA next to where the Genie used to sit as the Genie must not need a DECA because it must be able to strip internet off the SAT signal that had internet superimposed on to it by another DECA (used in the other direction) that puts internet onto all the SAT cables. And there is/was never a DECA in the room where the C31 Genie Mini sits so unless I was to add two DECA's, there is no INTERNET for the two HR20's I just deployed.

But, having said all that, I was told Whole Home does NOT depend on the DVR's being on the Internet. That instead all DVR's need to be on the same "something something" network that someone conveyed to me in another post that I, for the moment, cannot find.

So, why don't I have Whole Home???

On the Whole Home setup, I have the following on ALL THREE DVR's (1 HR22 and 2 HR20's)

Share Playlist — YES
Allow Deletion From — All rooms
Name Location — All three DVR's have reasonable names
External Device — External Access — Allow
External Device — Current Program — Block
External Device — Recordings — Allow
Status — Whole-Home DVR: Authorized
Status — No networked DVR's found

1) What is the External Device stuff about??? In that section it says "Allow or block external devices from accessing your receiver, seeing the program you are currently viewing or seeing Playlist recordings". Does that mean other DVR's seeing a DVR you are on or is it referring to other types of external electronics, like Smart TV's or something??? That External Device confuses me.

2) But the big question is why do I NOT have Whole Home Working??? All three DVR's are connected to the same splitter and it appears from this other post I can't now find that the sharing appears to occur over the SAT cables as long as they are all on the same network???

So why do I NOT have Whole Home working??? Why does it say "No networked DVR's found". Might I need to restart them all and then maybe it will work???

Confused about how Whole Home works!!!???

Any help would be much appreciated. thanks..
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Also, make sure the Whole home service is still on your account , as noted above.
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HoTat2
Also, I'd advise you to go ebay to purchase the correct "older style" receiver DECAs with coax F-connectors on opposite ends.

Don't try to ask DIRECTV to send you them for free as they will likely send you a USB type DECA with only one F-connector which is not the proper one for your situation.

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Wow, Lots of information. Thanks... First, all three interim receivers (one HR22-100 that has been part of the install all along and two HR20-700's which are just in there until we decide what Genie to buy to put back in (along with its Genie Mini which is currently unplugged) show

Whole Home DVR -- Authorized

So I think that means the service is still on???!!! I just tried to log on to my account (was on an hour ago) and now Directv is reporting technical issues. Sigh...

The HR34 Genie that was installed (now with a dead hard drive) did NOT have a DECA as it would appear (someone jump in to confirm) that it must do the "DECA stuff" inside the HR34 and nor does the Genie Mini have a DECA because it's just a Client getting all its info (I guess) from the HR34 server. So when I simply put the two HR20's in the locations where I once had the Genie and Genie Mini, I did not have access to any DECA's to put in there. And at the time I thought I only needed the DECAs if I wanted the DVR's on the internet and that I only needed internet access if I wanted to use OnDemand. I was jazzed just to be able to get TV back in these two locations with two DVR's I had stored just because I never got around to recycling them (and Directv did not want them back 3 years ago). And I'm still jazzed to have TV in these two locations. I was really just trying to see if I could also get Whole Home up and working again and you folks are saying, I think, that I need to go buy some DECA hardware that I would likely only find on eBay.

So educate me as I'm a retired EE who likes to learn how all this stuff works. But my real answer will to reinstall a new Genie soon.

holler back. thanks
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I was just wondering if all this is actually necessary when you can have a new HR44/54 in a day or two ?
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This should help ...

Enjoy ...Tapatalk Cloud - Downlaoad File Coax%20Networking%20White%20Paper.pdf

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SuperDish_Fan23
SuperDish_Fan23
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Its crazy how the ViP922 is so rare for no reason.

Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.
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HipKat said:
I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.
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I don't recall that they came out just before hopper, but rather that they came out even before 722. Or could be thinking of 921.

As to the title pf the post, "rare" does not necessarily mean valuable or desirable.
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telstar_1 said:
I don't recall that they came out just before hopper, but rather that they came out even before 722. Or could be thinking of 921.

As to the title pf the post, "rare" does not necessarily mean valuable or desirable.
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You are thinking of the 921. The 922 was the first DVR with Sling functionality built in (that was eventually disabled along with the Sling Adapter for the 722s and the 1st Hopper because they relied on now-defunct Adobe Flash technology). With the bugginess described by others and the removal of its marquee feature (Sling) the 922 faded into obscurity once the Hopper 2 with built in Sling was released and they finally made the concept into a fully functional product.
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I had one, the front panel lighting was cool, the menus were fresh and a lot more modern looking than the ViPs. However, it was very buggy and the Sling functionality just didn't work well - I think it was due to internet speeds at the time. I think I had to pay $40 for the Sling app on my phone iirc.
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dishdude said:
I had one, the front panel lighting was cool, the menus were fresh and a lot more modern looking than the ViPs. However, it was very buggy and the Sling functionality just didn't work well - I think it was due to internet speeds at the time. I think I had to pay $40 for the Sling app on my phone iirc.
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I had both the 921 and the 922. I used to buy them from DishDepot.com in Florida and trade in my older owned receiver towards the newest receiver. The 921 was a reboot receiver and the sling part was hit or miss. I look back on all those receivers I paid for over 25 years and I think it was just TV. If I had that money back now I would be lot richer. My Owned Hopper 3 is sitting in a drawer in my office not being used.
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That was part of the Ergen scheme, to sell the product as well as the service. And who didn't want the best box?

Maybe they went to the hopper because they were running out of 3-digit model #s- 1022 would have been kinda clunky. Folks would have tried to say "one-thousand and twenty two" instead of "ten-twenty-two".

Like some say "two thousand and twenty six".
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That's not really unusual. Cable companies like to the provide the box too. The phone company provided the phones in until the government forced them to allow third-party phones.
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dishstaller
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club

You can't even trust the cost per ounce info in grocery stores anymore

I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f3zr37ekgKM?feature=share
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dishstaller said:
I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f3zr37ekgKM?feature=share
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When walmart set a price...they weigh the container and the product...the product label only shows the weight of the product...I am sure if you brought your own plastic baggies to bring the product home you could get the cheaper price
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Juan said:
When walmart set a price...they weigh the container and the product...
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Then they are stupid. Everyone knows that the price per ounce should be the price per ounce of actual product.
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b4pjoe
Meat with a bone in it. It contributes to the weight.
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b4pjoe said:
Meat with a bone in it. It contributes to the weight.
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Bone-in is a well-known and often prized attribute. Adding the tray and the film isn't right.
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dishstaller said:
Then they are stupid. Everyone knows that the price per ounce should be the price per ounce of actual product.
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You are paying for the whole thing
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Juan said:
You are paying for the whole thing
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Well, the bag can't weigh that much, right? But by law food product packaging must display the actual net weight of the product, i.e., the contents of the container, so by any logic, if not law, a store's stated per-ounce cost should reflect that figure. But since there's not any law regulating shelf statements, a store can say whatever it wants without violating any rules. So I guess the answer is more consumer legislation. Or simply caveat emptor.
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Windows Weekly 1006

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDlKhq4TMbc


Direct YouTube Link - Windows Weekly 1006
TWIT's Website
TWIT Live Feed
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Former member 209992
Last reply · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center

Site is slooooow

For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Nature will develop better idiots.
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navychop said:
Nature will develop better idiots.
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God help us.
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I guess this is what the downtime was about.

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Just a heads up... I just patched our PHP to close the major PHP exploit announced this morning.

Now on PHP 8.4.27 (cli) (built: Oct 20 2026 00:00:00)
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I saw that, wasn't sure if PHP was employed by XenForo or not.
arstechnica.com

PHP warns it plans to release 2 emergency patches imminently

Unconfirmed report claims PHP2Shell exploit remotely executes code on PHP sites.
arstechnica.com arstechnica.com
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Yup thats what xenforo is written in, php.

But all patched now. :)
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Scott Greczkowski
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Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Where's My Thing? - Rush
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I Don't Wanna Miss a Thing - Aerosmith
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Good Golly, Miss Molly - Little Richard
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Little Miss Dangerous - Ted Nugent
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Little Miss Can't Be Wrong - Spin Doctors
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish vs Streaming Apps?

Every time my Dish contract comes up I weigh the options of keeping Dish or switch to streaming. Right now I can watch/record the OTA channels vis my HDHomerun. I also can stream CBS and NBC via the Paramount+ and Peacock apps. What I would need to find is how to watch the Food Network, HGTV, Syfy, USA, Hallmark channels, Great American Family, Lifetime channels plus a few more with an app or two. My current Dish bill is $118, so I should be able to get a few apps for a lot less.

Any suggestions? I would want the best picture quality and audio quality I could get.
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reubenray said:
Every time my Dish contract comes up I weigh the options of keeping Dish or switch to streaming. Right now I can watch/record the OTA channels vis my HDHomerun. I also can stream CBS and NBC via the Paramount+ and Peacock apps. What I would need to find is how to watch the Food Network, HGTV, Syfy, USA, Hallmark channels, Great American Family, Lifetime channels plus a few more with an app or two. My current Dish bill is $118, so I should be able to get a few apps for a lot less.

Any suggestions? I would want the best picture quality and audio quality I could get.
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USA and SyFy content is on Peacock, you can the rest of those channels via Philo, only $25 a month.

www.philo.com

Philo - Stream Live and On-Demand TV

Why pay more for TV? Start your Philo free trial and enjoy live TV plus on-demand content starting at just $25/month. Stream hit shows, movies, and more.
www.philo.com www.philo.com
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Gas Price Info With National Gas Temperature Map

Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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harshness
I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.
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harshness
harshness said:
I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.
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It turns out I was justified in my suspicion.

Gavin Newsom somehow authorized the temporary move of the distribution date of the Winter blend to September 28th.
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harshness said:
It turns out I was justified in my suspicion.

Gavin Newsom somehow authorized the temporary move of the distribution date of the Winter blend to September 28th.
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Does that raise, or lower, the overall price? Our State Government has been doing everything it can to minimize the impact of the current situation and put a freeze on the State Taxes on fuel sales at the pump. That's why we're still under $4.00/gal. while across the border in Michigan it's much higher.
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Foxbat said:
Does that raise, or lower, the overall price? Our State Government has been doing everything it can to minimize the impact of the current situation and put a freeze on the State Taxes on fuel sales at the pump. That's why we're still under $4.00/gal. while across the border in Michigan it's much higher.
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Winter blend is cheaper than Summer blend.
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Bobby
Regular$5.839​
Premium$6.299​
Diesel$7.999​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
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harshness
Foxbat said:
Does that raise, or lower, the overall price?
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Winter blend is reportedly 10-30 cents cheaper, but I would point out that prices have dropped as much as 62 cents at RP.
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iPhone Duo Folio Kickstand Case!

Time for another AWESOME video from BoredAtWork!


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Gary Toma
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Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum

DIRECTV Transponder Map ~ Data 10/14/2026

The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
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National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
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Additional tabs provide:​
OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
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Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8​

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
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WCWW/25 CW South Bend and WBKP/5 CW Marquette are now testing on the stream server. These are both already available on satellite.

Now live in the satellite guide:
663-2 PISTONS (663-1 is likely being reserved for an overflow feed of Detroit Sportsnet, if there's a 2027 MLB season)
675 THUNDER
693 CLIPPERS
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DirecTV Satellite Transponder Updates for Oct 21 2026

Comparison of Transponder Data for Oct 21 2026 vs Oct 14 2026:


No changes in system tables for any transponder tuning parameters.

Changes to the use of defined transponders:

1 Transponder cleared of all Streams::
Net 10 TID 126 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D11@99cb, TPN 3

1 Previously unused Transponder with current APG records::
Net 15 TID 15 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D12@103ca, TPN 16

Stream (PID) counts:

LIVE Streams​
National​
Spot Beams​
Count​
Change​
Count​
Change​
4K​
4​
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HD​
264​
2​
1449​
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SD mpeg4​
145​
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194​
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SD mpeg2​
433​
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RB​
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Audio​
89​
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Push​
26​
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Slate​
19​
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1​
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TEST Streams​
National​
Spot Beams​
Count​
Change​
Count​
Change​
4K​
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HD​
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1​
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SD mpeg4​
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SD mpeg2​
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RB​
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Engr Work​
38​
-2​
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The PID count Excel workbook provides much more count detail.

Newly updated tables of Streams on each transponder are available in the DataDigesters TPN Grids

More details of changes in individual channels will follow in the Weekly Analysis
and Gary Toma's Domestic TPN Map Excel files

NBA Updates
Weekly Analysis soon
Enjoy
DataDigesters
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weekly Analysis for 10/21/2026:
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HAWKS, HORNETS, GRZZLIES, HEAT, MAGIC, CAVLIERS, TWOLVES, BUCKS, PACERS and SPURS channels have also been added, however they are pointing to a TV Promise slate, which says they are working with DAZN and others to strike a deal for those teams.

Some more TPN swaps
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KyL416 said:
HAWKS, HORNETS, GRZZLIES, HEAT, MAGIC, CAVLIERS, TWOLVES, BUCKS, PACERS and SPURS channels have also been added, however they are pointing to a TV Promise slate, which says they are working with DAZN and others to strike a deal for those teams.

Some more TPN swaps
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Wait…..
So even though DAZN keeps touting 'only way to see games' if you are a subscriber to Choice (like my stepdad) if an agreement is reached he can see the Wolfies on 668?
I know the Wild are in dispute and a slate is on 668-1.
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Marques Brownlee
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ASMR iPhone Duo Unboxing

Time for another AWESOME video from Marques Brownlee!


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_4ELeWAgMwo


Direct YouTube Link - ASMR iPhone Duo Unboxing
The official MKBHD Website!
The MKBHD Store
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