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TheForce
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Last reply · posted in The Phone & Tablet Zone
Let's start a place to collect info on what is being leaked and then what actually is being sold.

Apple's New iPhone 9 Has A Nasty Surprise
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navychop
It will be interesting to see actual published figures.

Reminds me of articles saying the X wasn't selling well, even after Apple reported out that it was their best seller.


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harshness
It will be interesting to see actual published figures.
I hope that Apple gives some specifics about what a "sale" is. Back in the day, it seems like they were counting orders from carriers and other units that weren't in the hands of end users.
Reminds me of articles saying the X wasn't selling well, even after Apple reported out that it was their best seller.
This is what gives me pause as I have yet to see an X. Even my most hardcore iOS friend was more gushy about the Pixel 2 and he's Apple to the core.

I read some stats from Counterpoint in July where the Galaxy S9 and S9+ had taken over (2.6% each and that iPhone 8+ sales were even with the X at 2.3%). WIth percentages that low, the slices are relatively thin but it does point to the fact that the S9 models combined to represent more than the peak iPhone X percentage in a marketplace with a lot more choices.
lparsons21
I hope that Apple gives some specifics about what a "sale" is. Back in the day, it seems like they were counting orders from carriers and other units that weren't in the hands of end users.This is what gives me pause as I have yet to see an X. Even my most hardcore iOS friend was more gushy about the Pixel 2 and he's Apple to the core.

I read some stats from Counterpoint in July where the Galaxy S9 and S9+ had taken over (2.6% each and that iPhone 8+ sales were even with the X at 2.3%). WIth percentages that low, the slices are relatively thin but it does point to the fact that the S9 models combined to represent more than the peak iPhone X percentage in a marketplace with a lot more choices.

Good question on how sales are reported. From readings in other forums I don't think Apple is doing it that way now, but don't know for sure.

I saw about a half dozen people with iPhone X's on my flight to Vegas about 2 weeks after they started shipping.

While Samsung does sell many more phones than Apple does, conjecture in many forums is that at the upper end of phone models, Apple outsells virtually everyone combined. Since Apple really only sells what would be the very upper end of most Mfg's lineup, that is a very fair comparison. And Apple makes the bulk of the phone profits, so it is good for Apple too.

The S9 and Note 9 are great phones imo, but are hamstrung by Samsung's poor reputation with updates and upgrades to the OS. And it should be noted that discount deals on them occur fairly often.

Edit: it should be noted that sales of phones from other than Apple and Samsung are little more than rounding errors on a spreadsheet. Most discussion of other than Samsung/Appleare pretty consistent with saying that they are all struggling to make a profit on phones/tablets. Hell, Samsung doesn't break out phone/tablet sales, but comments indicate they make more money selling phone/tablet components than they do on the actual phones/tablets.

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harshness
Edit: it should be noted that sales of phones from other than Apple and Samsung are little more than rounding errors on a spreadsheet.
In some surveys, anything under 2% may be considered statistically insignificant (the "noise floor"?). It is a little like how every pay TV provider claims to be #1 in customer service but it comes down to who you ask and when.

As for updates on Samsung's being problematic, I heard they figured that out with version 8 (Oreo) where the manufacturer stuff was bifurcated from the Android stuff.

The magic with Android is that you don't have to live with the way that one manufacturer envisions your world -- there are several top-notch phones from other manufacturers (LG, Sony, Google). Sometimes its nice to be able to retreat to the familiar and not be pushed around in the name of progress. Why should users have to adapt to their appliances?

declaration: I hold stock in Apple uniquely because they "print money".
TheForce
declaration: I hold stock in Apple uniquely because they "print money".

Anyone who claims they do not have stock in Apple is probably either ignorant of their retirement account holdings, or has all his money hidden in his shopping cart under the overpass. :D

Why should users have to adapt to their appliances?
I don't think there is an appliance I have that I didn't have to adapt to from the start. Then if I had an issue with something, I modified it to adapt to my needs. I've already adapted my iphone XS Max and Apple Watch 4 with personal modifications to my individual needs. You don't have to be an engineer to do this because there are more accessories for the iphone and Apple watch than any other similar device and they aren't very expensive.

For example, My Tissot T-Touch Titanium watch has only one band that will fit, the one that came with it. I have 8 different bands for my AW4 and before I even wore my new AW4 I put on my favorite metal band that I used with my original AW gen 1 that is a 3rd party band from Amazon.

I don't consider myself an Apple fanboy but I am a real fanboy of the Apple watch. To use it properly, I did have to buy an iphone but fortunately the iphone performs as well the Samsung I had before. Plus the iphone gave me features I can't get on the Samsung.
Foxbat
or has all his money hidden in his shopping cart under the overpass.
Dammit, Don, now I need to find a new hiding place. Thanks a lot!
:D

Mentioning Samsung, it's interesting how they advertised for years mocking the Apple Fanboz standing in line waiting for the new iPhones to arrive and now they find themselves with equally enthusiastic Galaxy fans who may not be standing in line, but certainly are not considering any other Android phone than another Galaxy S-series or Note.

If I were abandoning Apple today for Android I'd be hard-pressed to pick a phone. On the short list would be the Pixel 3 (great camera phone) and perhaps the new Sony Xperia XZ3. But that won't be on the radar for another 3-4 years since I just got my iPhone 8...
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Dammit, Don, now I need to find a new hiding place. Thanks a lot!
:D

Mentioning Samsung, it's interesting how they advertised for years mocking the Apple Fanboz standing in line waiting for the new iPhones to arrive and now they find themselves with equally enthusiastic Galaxy fans who may not be standing in line, but certainly are not considering any other Android phone than another Galaxy S-series or Note.

If I were abandoning Apple today for Android I'd be hard-pressed to pick a phone. On the short list would be the Pixel 3 (great camera phone) and perhaps the new Sony Xperia XZ3. But that won't be on the radar for another 3-4 years since I just got my iPhone 8...

But yet for all the interest that the S/N 9's are getting there are hefty trade in or discount deals. And yes, both are great phones.

From just a phone and not ecosystem around it, there isn't a huge difference between Apple/Android IMO.


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harshness
From just a phone and not ecosystem around it, there isn't a huge difference between Apple/Android IMO.
With the possible exception of heart monitoring, there are Android phones that do at least one thing the iPhone can do better (outside of running iOS apps) whether what's important to you is the battery life, the camera, connectivity or expandability. The Pixel 3 arguably has multiple features that clearly surpass the best iPhone offering. The Xperia is quite a nice piece and you can never count out LG.
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I have both Apple and android and my biggest complaint with the android phone is the constant updating of the apps, anywhere from at least three to 12 a day.
Apple isn't quite as bad but it does in my opinion have too many app updates also.
lparsons21
With the possible exception of heart monitoring, there are Android phones that do at least one thing the iPhone can do better (outside of running iOS apps) whether what's important to you is the battery life, the camera, connectivity or expandability. The Pixel 3 arguably has multiple features that clearly surpass the best iPhone offering. The Xperia is quite a nice piece and you can never count out LG.

Odd you would mention battery life as my experience with Android phones is that the battery life was terrible, especially if I made heavy use of a gps app.


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TheForce
I have both Apple and android and my biggest complaint with the android phone is the constant updating of the apps, anywhere from at least three to 12 a day.
Apple isn't quite as bad but it does in my opinion have too many app updates also.

I don't know about that although the XS Max now seems to need less apps updates as I had with the 6+. It seems that I had updates 15-25 every week with the 6+. Whoops, having said that I recall I put the new XS Max on auto update so maybe it still has them but they are behind the scenes and I haven't noticed.


This afternoon a good friend from another forum and I were comparing image quality for the low end HMD and how our phones were working. His S8+ has a higher resolution than my XS Max and is also a OLED screen yet he complains that the image quality is not what it should be. I actually believe my XS Max now has a better image quality than the Sony with the HMD viewing YT VR180. I think the HDR and color saturation seems superior to the Sony but the Sony with LCD 4K screen while equal on noticeable screen door artifact in the HMD the color and contrast and detail in the shadows and lighting is really great. He was planning to look into whether his S8 had something set wrong. If you S8 owners have any ideas I'd welcome them.

A good test is the back camera in the audience view, I can see the detail on the large screen ipads and laptops open in the audience on my XS Max in the HMD and they are blown out on the Sony with the higher res screen.
harshness
Odd you would mention battery life as my experience with Android phones is that the battery life was terrible, especially if I made heavy use of a gps app.
If your experience is more than a couple of product or OS release cycles old, it is arguably no longer valid. The full charge times on the XS are running over three hours (195 minutes) while the S9 can wirelessly charge in 150 minutes so that's another metric to consider.

Given the stagger between iPhone and Galaxy product lines, much leap-frogging should be expected.
lparsons21
If your experience is more than a couple of product or OS release cycles old, it is arguably no longer valid. The full charge times on the XS are running over three hours (195 minutes) while the S9 can wirelessly charge in 150 minutes so that's another metric to consider.

Given the stagger between iPhone and Galaxy product lines, much leap-frogging should be expected.

I don't give any weight to how long it takes to charge devices as all of the ones I have will work all day and into the night. Plug them in, go to bed and they are ready for the next day.

Using a golf gps app is a pretty big drain though it isn't quite as much as] issue as it used to be. A few models ago I needed to ensure a full charge on my phone to get through 18 holes and still have useful battery time left. The android phones would be more discharged than my iphones.

These days not so much, especially on the bigger phones. My current Xs Max uses about 20% after 18 holes, my Moto Z3 closer to 30%. The AW4 uses about 40% or a shade over.


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TheForce
Charge times I have done are 20% to 90% range for the XS Max:

1. supplied standard iphone power pack: 180 minutes ( to go to 100% )
2. Anker wireless charging stand: 80 minutes using 10watt power pack
3. Angeli wireless battery pack 100 minutes
4. Angeli wireless battery pack connected with USB QC2.0 50 minutes
5. iclever 29 watt power pack USB C to Lightning 30 minutes

Other observations:
The charging rate slows down to similar to the small iphone powerpack to go from 80-100%
My warning to charge up comes on at 20%. The iclever power pack goes to low rate LED green(High Rate) to Blue(Low rate) as the iphone hits 80%
dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Hard getting used to the new younger Gibbs, Mark Harmons son had the right look but I understand he didn't want the role.
Still I'm enjoying, pretty good job with Franks.
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dfergie
Really good one with OG Gibbs bookending it...
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Really good one with OG Gibbs bookending it...
Will the OG Gibbs be on NCIS or will Tony be on NCIS Origins?
dfergie
Tony was there at the end of the episode with Gibbs.
R
Tony was there at the end of the episode with Gibbs.
I saw Gibbs walk into the door, but I did not see Tony.
Gary Toma
Staff member Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum
The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
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National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
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Additional tabs provide:​
OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
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Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8​

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
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Now testing on the stream server:
WJBF-D2 CW Augusta GA
KSVI-D2 CW Billings MT
WETM-D2 CW Elmira NY
WJET-D2 CW Erie PA
KLFY-D2 CW Lafayette LA
KARD-D2 CW Monroe LA
WVBT-D2 CW Norfolk VA
WTWO-D2 CW Terre Haute IN
WFXV-D2 CW Utica NY
KFDX-D3 CW Wichita Falls TX
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PISTONS and THUNDER are finally testing on the stream server. PISTONS is showing the Ion/Scripps Sports promo loop filler that their NHL and WNBA feeds have, THUNDER has a "You are watching Thunder+" slate

The Clippers still haven't officially announced their TV plans beyond 10 simulcasts on KTLA, but the NBA's FAQ for ClipperVision is now live. The CLIPPERS feed is currently showing a loop of their Hawaii preseason game.

The Heat still haven't announced their West Palm Beach or Fort Myers affiliates. Since WPLG is streaming the games for free via their app, I doubt we'll be seeing the return of WPLG on stream.

So far nothing testing for the Bucks, Magic, Hawks or Hornets.
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DirecTV Satellite Transponder Updates for Oct 14 2026

Comparison of Transponder Data for Oct 14 2026 vs Oct 07 2026:


No changes in system tables for any transponder tuning parameters.

Changes to the use of defined transponders:

2 Transponders cleared of all Streams::
Net 0 TID 28 Beam NAT + PR is a National Transponder on D16@101, TPN 29
Net 15 TID 15 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D12@103ca, TPN 16

1 Previously unused Transponder with current APG records::
Net 15 TID 128 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D15@103cb, TPN 5

Stream (PID) counts:

LIVE Streams​
National​
Spot Beams​
Count​
Change​
Count​
Change​
4K​
4​
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HD​
262​
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1449​
2​
SD mpeg4​
145​
1​
194​
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SD mpeg2​
433​
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RB​
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Audio​
89​
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Push​
26​
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Slate​
19​
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1​
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TEST Streams​
National​
Spot Beams​
Count​
Change​
Count​
Change​
4K​
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HD​
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1​
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SD mpeg4​
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SD mpeg2​
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RB​
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Engr Work​
40​
6​
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The PID count Excel workbook provides much more count detail.

Newly updated tables of Streams on each transponder are available in the DataDigesters TPN Grids

More details of changes in individual channels will follow in the Weekly Analysis
and Gary Toma's Domestic TPN Map Excel files
Weekly Analysis soon
Enjoy
DataDigesters
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Weekly Analysis for 10/14/2026:
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NBA League Pass prep

Some more reshuffles
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The Clippers still haven't officially announced their TV plans beyond 10 simulcasts on KTLA, but the NBA's FAQ for ClipperVision is now live. The CLIPPERS feed is currently showing a loop of their Hawaii preseason game.
They finally announced ClipperVision, it will be on DIRECTV, but they didn't provide a channel number yet.

EDIT: It's going to be on channel 693
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WETM-D2 CW Elmira NY
WJET-D2 CW Erie PA
KLFY-D2 CW Lafayette LA
KARD-D2 CW Monroe LA
WVBT-D2 CW Norfolk VA
WTWO-D2 CW Terre Haute IN
WFXV-D2 CW Utica NY
KFDX-D3 CW Wichita Falls TX
These are now live on stream and weren't testing on satellite as of yesterday:
WETM-DT/19 CW Elmira
WJET-DT/25 CW Erie
KLFY-DT/11 CW Lafayette LA
KARD-DT/15 CW Monroe
WVBT-DT/44 CW Norfolk
WTWO-DT/3 CW Terre Haute
WFXV-DT/34 CW Utica
KFDX-DT/4 CW Wichita Falls
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Bobby
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
This thread is a place to discuss the 4K events that appear on channel 540. We are getting, at this point, one college football game a week. Let's hope there is more coming.
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Guide says Nascar race, I get the baseball game on two channels.
long_time_Dish
Guide says Nascar race, I get the baseball game on two channels.
Yeah, I was bummed. It was supposed to be the NASCAR race in 4K...
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jsmit86
Regarding the no sound bug when watching 4K HDR events or DVR recordings with Dolby set to ON:
I got rolled back to H708 last night after getting an email from the support team. It fixed the bug.

The email indicated that they believed they found the issue, and if the fix works, they would roll it out via an update in the coming weeks.

So... we should see that bug exterminated in the near future.
long_time_Dish
148-04 says the NASCAR race on at noon on Sunday. Be interesting to see if it is.
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MLB, Brewers at Dodgers, Thursday 10-15, 6PM PDT, Channel 148-02.
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MLB, Brewers at Dodgers, Thursday 10-15, 6PM PDT, Channel 148-02.
CFB, Notre Dame at BYU, Saturday 10-27, 4:30PM PDT, Channel 148-03.
CFB, Ohio State at Indiana, Saturday 10-17, 9AM PDT, Channel 148-01.
CFB, Arizona State at Texas Tech, Saturday 10-17, 12:30PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
Hmmm, I'm not seeing anything like those events in our Hopper 3 guide for tonight or Saturday.🙁

I went into the Tools menu and requested a Guide Update. I'll try looking at it after the update completes.

edit — I now have the 148-01 4KFox events for Saturday, but not anything for 148-02 or 148-03 which don't even show as available channels. I do have 148-04 4KUSA.
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Anony55
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
For quite a while now, people with a VIP211k have been losing their recordings on their activated external HDDs... even when there's nothing physically wrong with HDD. I believe this is an intentional and underhanded tactic that Dish is pulling in an attempt to force users away from the VIP211k.

They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.

Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.

On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.

It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.

I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.
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Nebugeater
Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally
Former member 208119
lovin my hopper 3 and my wireless joey i can roll the tv all over the house if i wanted to :oops: 🤔
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Former member 208119
Class action.
a hopper 3 with 6 firesticks and or if you wanna spend even more money apple tv's
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Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally
Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.
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Nebugeater
Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.


Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion
Anony55
Well, after nine months of being on pause, I finally figured out that I was wasting $5 a month. So I cancelled. For the first time since 2010, I no longer have a Dish account.

I do have to say that I did appreciate the account pause option. That just gives a person some time to see what the fallout of cancelling will be... without having to go all the way over the cliff first.

Since I never once had an "oh shoot, I need Dish Network for..." moment, the decision was a lot easier.

Funny enough, when I called to cancel (for real, not playing the pricing game), all of a sudden, they were offering me deals that I was told before that I couldn't get without changing out my VIP211k. Now, I could have had those specials with them just sending me a new card for the receiver. LOL!

Of course, my mind was already made up because of having not missed the service while on pause. That, and the fact that I bet the 211k still kills recordings.

All in all, I'm glad that I had Dish for all those years. I just outgrew the need, and they pressed the issue by deleting recordings. I would have eventually went this route without the deleted recordings issue. But, for sure, that did hasten the outcome.

I'll still pop in at this site from time to time. Believe it or not, I still have a C/Ku BUD that I intend on playing with again if life ever slows down.
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Rock and Roll Ain't Noise Pollution - AC/DC
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Kiss - The Art Of Noise
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Beautiful Noise - Neil Diamond
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White Noise - Jessie Baylin
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White Rabbit - Jefferson Airplane
Ramy
Supporting Founder
Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:
  • All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
    • Independent of record too! Bonus.
  • MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
  • I'm out of ideas.
Cons
  • Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
    • Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
  • Going to start resting players?
    • The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
    • Resting players could make games dumb.
    • Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
  • How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!
osu1991
AZ.
AZ.
24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:
  • All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
    • Independent of record too! Bonus.
  • MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
  • I'm out of ideas.
Cons
  • Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
    • Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
  • Going to start resting players?
    • The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
    • Resting players could make games dumb.
    • Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
  • How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.
Jimbo
24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:
  • All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
    • Independent of record too! Bonus.
  • MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
  • I'm out of ideas.
Cons
  • Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
    • Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
  • Going to start resting players?
    • The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
    • Resting players could make games dumb.
    • Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
  • How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!
This will be a SAD DAY when this passes ....

They complained the last year that we had a bunch of Blow Outs in the Playoffs ... heres an idea, lets Double the amount of teams and hope for Closer games ... ya right.

This never should have went past 8 teams, 10 at the most.

Now, I have heard that play in games are being talked about, such as #13 plays #24 and so forth, to cut the field down (why cut it down, just don't expand it.)
I'm not sure exactly how thats going to work out or if it was just someone talking.

They were also talking about starting the Season earlier ...

I really don't like the National Championship game being the end of January ... if the Semi Finals are over New Years, thats fine with the Championship game the next week.
Jimbo
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.
There are 68 Power 4 teams, so eventually they will get there I wouldn't imagine ...
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Can't help but wonder if a worker overlooked checking the harness. I rarely ride a roller coaster anymore but when I do I check the harness myself pretty aggressively.
Can't imagine what the son is going through.

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Jimbo
dishstaller
Had no idea there were that many redundancies built into those restraints.
Jimbo
Had no idea there were that many redundancies built into those restraints.
It makes sense, however, I would want more types of restraints, so if one doesn't work, the other does ... the restraints coming over the shoulder I would have expected ... with a Seat belt as last resort.

Fwiw, I inquired with what they use on Coasters at Cedar Point, various Coasters, different restraints according to what the car and track requires ...

NONE of the Coasters at CP use THAT particular system :)
I'm glad to see ...
dishstaller
with a Seat belt as last resort.
According to the article, when you see a seat belt on a ride like this, it is basically used as a way of making sure the rider isn't too large/fat to safely ride the ride.
Jimbo
According to the article, when you see a seat belt on a ride like this, it is basically used as a way of making sure the rider isn't too large/fat to safely ride the ride.
Well, the over the shoulder support is better, but would require reconfiguring the cars.
Jimbo
Heres an article from the Akron Beacon ... seeing Six Flags has bought Cedar Point and Kings Island, they are included ...
I said earlier that Cedar Point doesn't use this type of seat restraint ... well, it does use it, But the difference is, the ones up here ALSO have the Over the shoulder restraint as well ... like I was suggesting that they should have used with the Goliath.

One of the new(er) one at Cedar point the Gate Keeper, uses the Clam shell .. I have rode it many times and have Mostly felt secure, that ride will stop you part way on the ride and you just hang, till the ride is ready to continue ... I typically ride the Front Car ... when its getting ready, you ARE hanging, in the car, looking down .... it would require 2 separate restraint systems to unlock at the same time to possibly get out of it.

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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
zippyfrog
That image is so true - especially after that Giants/Commanders game yesterday.
dfergie
Some tight games that went to the wire...
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
A big win for the Patriots, and they are now 3-2.

Browns lose a close one with... The Jets. That is a classic Browns loss (granted, any loss is a classic one it seems). 49'ers, Vikings, and Chiefs remain undefeated. The AFC north have a three way tie at 3-2 for second place. :eek:
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
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Wasn't exactly sure where to post this. Just had a customer come in inquiring about internet. He has HughesNet and had heard good things about mine. He asked if we provided email addresses and it kinda caught me off guard. I said he should be able to keep whatever email he had been using....my sister in law is still using a BellSouth email addy and they haven't been around here for many years. He said he had gotten a letter from HughesNet stating that they had until Nov 16th to save, move, forward, whatever, their Hughesnet emails because they would lose them after that date.

I have never heard of a company simply mass-deleting email accounts (the customer still has his HughesNet service). From what I understand, in the past, the company who was ditching their email service simply sold the customer base to a company like Google.

Anyone else getting this letter. He said he would show it to me tomorrow when I go out there and set up his internet.
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Foxbat
Doing a Google of the HughesNet Email notice, it seems that HughesNet has been trying to eliminate hosting emails since 2019. And with HughesNet filing Chapter 11 back in August, it would be a smart move to switch to a more stable Email provider. Even AT&T farmed out their Email to Yahoo! years ago.

SpaceX's Starlink and the Cellular 5G Home Internet solutions have pretty much relegated HughesNet and its high latency, low bandwidth Internet service to History. If Earth had shorter days, maybe a Geostationary Internet Solution might have stood a fighting chance…
dishstaller
Well, I helped him set up a gmail acct....I actually wanted to see what the new process is for setting up a gmail acct since it had been years since I set mine up. Anyway, I showed him how to forward the emails he wanted to keep over.
navychop
If Earth had shorter days,

Wouldn't we then die of old age sooner?

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Foxbat
Wouldn't we then die of old age sooner?

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Still the same number of years, just more Sunsets…😉
K
Even AT&T farmed out their Email to Yahoo! years ago.

I still have one of those although I've been trying to wean myself off it.
JSheridan
Among my many email accounts I still have a .netscape.net which AOL assimilated a while back.