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HipKat
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
August Software Release Details

  • YouTube kids will be available on Hopper 3
    • Look for the YouTube kids tile in the Menu or find it in the EPG!
    • YouTube kids on the Hopper w/ Sling was launched in July
  • Netflix reliability improvements
  • Gamefinder performance improvements
August Software Versions

Hopper 3 U522
Hopper w/ Sling U705
Hopper U133
Hopper Duo U614
Wally U441
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Howard Simmons
I have a Hopper2/sling and Friday I got the U705 update. I don't know what it all entails but one thing I noticed was that the Game Finder settings had changed. Since I got the update I've been watching football all day and now I'm getting these notifications that such and such is starting etc. I didn't have this before 705 and I checked the settings on my Hopper and in notifications I have TV enhancements in off mode. I checked everywhere else and couldn't find anything to turn them off. Any ideas.
pattykay
I have a Hopper2/sling and Friday I got the U705 update. I don't know what it all entails but one thing I noticed was that the Game Finder settings had changed. Since I got the update I've been watching football all day and now I'm getting these notifications that such and such is starting etc. I didn't have this before 705 and I checked the settings on my Hopper and in notifications I have TV enhancements in off mode. I checked everywhere else and couldn't find anything to turn them off. Any ideas.
Do you have any favorite teams set in Game Finder? As long as you have any teams (or sports) selected, you will get those notifications five minutes before each game is scheduled to start.

I have an H3 and get the same messages and remember that I turned something on. BUT when I went to GameFinder to give you a step by step to where this is done, it's all screwed up. It first asked for me to set up what I had already set up. Then when I went in to set up since there was nothing, mostly, it couldn't supply teams to select and errored. There's a bigger problems here . . . now.
I hate that with each new software version of Game Finder, I get that pop-up asking me to select my favorite teams the first time I use Game Finder after the update. At first, this confused me, and I thought it had erased my favorite teams. Then I checked, and the Cleveland Indians still have a check mark, and I still get the notifications described above. I wish it would remember the setting to keep that Welcome pop-up turned off, instead of asking me to select my favorite teams again when I already have it set up the way I want it.
SandFarmer
. . . I hate that with each new software version of Game Finder, I get that pop-up asking me to select my favorite teams the first time I use Game Finder after the update. At first, this confused me, and I thought it had erased my favorite teams. Then I checked, and the Cleveland Indians still have a check mark, and I still get the notifications described above. I wish it would remember the setting to keep that Welcome pop-up turned off, instead of asking me to select my favorite teams again when I already have it set up the way I want it.

That pop up has stopped today. But the strange thing was that it acted like a "new set up" instance, but all my teams were already and still selected even though.

Now there is a "number" select options panel when the "options" button, that was a "sort" select toggle, is selected at the top or the "Options" button on the remote is pressed. I like that a lot. Now if, as with the rest of the "Sort" options throughout the box, it would only stay in the setting that I select for sorting instead of reverting to a default.

Also until today all the College teams where not populating and the window says no information or the like. Now there's more info for NCAAF. Which is mostly complete, but NCAAB is empty.

Haven't found any other problems . . . yet. But I'm thinking that letting the update sit for a couple of day allowed it to "settle". That's strange and ironic that software would have to do that . . .
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HipKat
Are both receivers connected to the internet and both on the same network? That's a cause of Moca issues.
Are both of her receivers connected the way Dish says doesn't work - using a duo hub off a 42 Switch or separate solo hubs?
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Are both receivers connected to the internet and both on the same network? That's a cause of Moca issues.
Are both of her receivers connected the way Dish says doesn't work - using a duo hub off a 42 Switch or separate solo hubs?

On the Internet part I learned when we first installed 2 HwS and a Joey that these boxes are network "Hogs" and "Disruptors". I knew the only way to get my network back to its "Quiet" "Efficient" self was to isolate each box with Address Reservations based on their MAC Addresses to "lock them in place". This was after they earned they names by continuously hopping all over grabbing different IP addresses. That is what I have done again here. The Media Room box is hard wired to the network and MoCA says things are fine. AND this was never a problem before the U522 update.

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Off a 42 Switch then a Duo Hub. That part of the install was done by a Field Supervisor and a Field Tech Trainer. That was the way they introduced themselves. During the "install" I was babysitting on the back side of the chimney handing and hold gear so the Trainer could work safer. And I cleaned things up after they were done and once the scheduled installer and his follower showed up and were done. The install was a back office nightmare.

I can easily check and change things. BUT they did connect the wing dish to the 3rd/Input port of the LNB and didn't mask the 129 horn on the 1K2. So when they left and before I closed up the access, I connected it to the 42 switch and capped the 129 horn with the bottom of a pop can. And once again . . . this was not a problem prior to U522. Although there were initial H3 to H3 playback issues that were resolved with recent updates.

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Sorry for the continuous edits. Something is really wrong with the post editor today. Images are being handled differently and my original post was all chopped up with half of it missing.
Howard Simmons
That pop up has stopped today. But the strange thing was that it acted like a "new set up" instance, but all my teams were already and still selected even though.

Now there is a "number" select options panel when the "options" button, that was a "sort" select toggle, is selected at the top or the "Options" button on the remote is pressed. I like that a lot. Now if, as with the rest of the "Sort" options throughout the box, it would only stay in the setting that I select for sorting instead of reverting to a default.

Also until today all the College teams where not populating and the window says no information or the like. Now there's more info for NCAAF. Which is mostly complete, but NCAAB is empty.

Haven't found any other problems . . . yet. But I'm thinking that letting the update sit for a couple of day allowed it to "settle". That's strange and ironic that software would have to do that . . .
Do you have all the teams for NHL? I'm missing a lot of teams and hockey season starts pretty soon. May have to call Dish to see what's going on.
SandFarmer
Do you have all the teams for NHL? I'm missing a lot of teams and hockey season starts pretty soon. May have to call Dish to see what's going on.

I'm showing only 8 teams and mine (The Avs) that was previously selected is there and selected. Even when it was really wonky and was asking for my to put my teams in, most were there and selected. So . . .

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pattykay
Do you have all the teams for NHL? I'm missing a lot of teams and hockey season starts pretty soon. May have to call Dish to see what's going on.
On mine, I see 33 teams, including both the Arizona Coyotes and the Phoenix Coyotes. That can't be right, can it?
SandFarmer
On mine, I see 33 teams, including both the Arizona Coyotes and the Phoenix Coyotes. That can't be right, can it?

Nope. Just the Phoenix Coyotes. I know cuz I rode their Zamboni in Phoenix during an Avs & Coyote game. Family back home wasn't too happy.
Howard Simmons
I'm showing only 8 teams and mine (The Avs) that was previously selected is there and selected. Even when it was really wonky and was asking for my to put my teams in, most were there and selected. So . . .

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Do you have a Hopper 3 or Hopper 2/Sling?
SandFarmer
Do you have a Hopper 3 or Hopper 2/Sling?

2 H3's and both say the same.
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On the Internet part I learned when we first installed 2 HwS and a Joey that these boxes are network "Hogs" and "Disruptors". I knew the only way to get my network back to its "Quiet" "Efficient" self was to isolate each box with Address Reservations based on their MAC Addresses to "lock them in place". This was after they earned they names by continuously hopping all over grabbing different IP addresses. That is what I have done again here. The Media Room box is hard wired to the network and MoCA says things are fine. AND this was never a problem before the U522 update.

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Off a 42 Switch then a Duo Hub. That part of the install was done by a Field Supervisor and a Field Tech Trainer. That was the way they introduced themselves. During the "install" I was babysitting on the back side of the chimney handing and hold gear so the Trainer could work safer. And I cleaned things up after they were done and once the scheduled installer and his follower showed up and were done. The install was a back office nightmare.

I can easily check and change things. BUT they did connect the wing dish to the 3rd/Input port of the LNB and didn't mask the 129 horn on the 1K2. So when they left and before I closed up the access, I connected it to the 42 switch and capped the 129 horn with the bottom of a pop can. And once again . . . this was not a problem prior to U522. Although there were initial H3 to H3 playback issues that were resolved with recent updates.

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Sorry for the continuous edits. Something is really wrong with the post editor today. Images are being handled differently and my original post was all chopped up with half of it missing.

Antennas direct has the VHF adapter for your OTA antenna if you have the need.


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SandFarmer
Antennas direct has the VHF adapter for your OTA antenna if you have the need.


Sent from my iPhone using SatelliteGuys mobile app

Thanks! No need these days. But I can not get OTA Channel 4 Denver. Whereas, I get all others at 100% signal. 4, 0%. Just the one.

Side note: I was one of the first Beta Testers to use the Dual Antenna (it's in its box in the garage). It was given to me by the Owner of the company directly and I was given special direction for its testing. We had very in depth conversations in regard to the fact that not all stations, especially NBC and ABC affiliates across the country were going UHF (the big network flip of the late 90's which was done so that NBC (9) and ABC (7) affiliates across the nation didn't have to spend billions moving stations to UHF since the HVHF band was allowed) and that his new antenna would not work in all markets. That's when he sent me the 4 banger that I have now, thinking that bigger would solve the problem. It worked in my market, but not all. I got them removed from many Costco because of this, false advertising on the products, kiosk placards and talking points for the sales people. The information I had provided explained to them why they were getting so many returns. Then the Dipole versions came out. Haven't seen any at Costco.

Since I was on AD's mailing list I got an ad about the new dual with the VHF dipoles and on the website there was a link to get the add-ons. I called them up to see where my test set was and if they'd give me a set to try? I was told that the owner was wanting to talk to me about these. I never heard from him and never got a set. I don't need them and am getting all the OTA's that I would want and more. And ironically, due to the issues I pointed out in the early days and the way newer TVs are being made and other issues that have risen, in my market, but not exclusively to, the NBC and ABC markets have had to create UHF retrans of their stations. So the bullet they thought they dodged, eventually caught up to them. So they have dual stations, but did get the UHF side stations now by the additions. My next door neighbor, Director of IT at NOAA, got the dual, after seeing mine looming over his house, and forgot to put the dipoles on it and didn't notice any difference when he did. "Most" stations are now at a place where there is no need for anything special to get them. But it's now getting crowded.
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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I Can Hear Music - The Beach Boys
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Boom Boom ( Out Go The Lights ) - Pat Travers
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Palisades Park - Freddy "Boom Boom" Cannon
RaiderPower
Cherry Hill Park - Billy Joe Royal
long_time_Dish
Lakeside Park - Rush
Bruce
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I was reading this article


That said this-
Last summer, for the first time, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime claimed the largest share of the television viewing audience, surpassing both cable and broadcast TV. Streaming captured 34.8 percent of July viewers, according to Nielsen data, compared to 34.4 percent for cable and 21.6 percent for broadcast.

And then, sometime in the second half of 2022, cord-cutters became the majority. The share of cable and satellite television subscribers dipped to 48 percent, according to a report from Samba TV, a television technology company.


Now I do not consider those with YTTV and the likes, Cord Cutters, but they still do not have Traditional Cable/Satellite delivered Live TV, so I decided to do the math.

There are, now, 129 Million Households in the United States.

In 2015, there were 100 Million Cable/Sat Subscribers , no streaming Live TV Service.

Today, there are 66 Million Live TV subscribers, including Cable, Satellite and Streaming.

Roughly, Streaming Live TV has 14 Million subs including all of them.

So that means, Cable/Satellite now has, roughly, 51 Million Households

So in just 8 years, lost 49% of their subscribers and by the end of this year, expected sub count to be, roughly, 45 million households.

That means a total loss of 55% since 2015 at the end of 2023.

But out of 129 Million households, 45 million will mean only 35% will get Cable/Satellite Delivered Live TV by the end of 2023.

Imagine what 2024 will be like.
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Bruce
And again, 15 months in a row, streaming wins-

Cable and Broadcast added together-36.4%

Streaming with a massive 49.6%, 13.2% higher than Broadcast/Streaming.

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Jimbo
And again, 15 months in a row, streaming wins-

Cable and Broadcast added together-36.4%

Streaming with a massive 49.6%, 13.2% higher than Broadcast/Streaming.

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Your Still Thrilled about all this ?

These numbers will Never be accurate as many people use Both still ...

You have services like Hulu Live and You Tube TV that do, what you call Cable, but they ARE Streaming, so Which is is ?

Does it get counted 2x as both Streaming and Cable ?
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Your Still Thrilled about all this ?

These numbers will Never be accurate as many people use Both still ...
Nobody is "happy" or "sad" about this. Simply posting data in an non-editorialized way has nothing to do with anyone's feelings.

The data on the streaming side is immensely accurate, I'm guessing to the millisecond. Plus most people likely have not turned off data sharing and thus they are grabbing a huge swath of data. Much more accurate than cable which relies on a smaller sample size and probably not to the second.

In either case, nobody is getting "double counted" because it's usage based. If I watch 100 minutes of content and 30 minutes is on Youtube and 20 minutes on Disney and 50 minutes on YTTV, it's going to show up as 30%, 20%, 50% slices of my personal pie respectively.
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Who does the Counting for Streaming ?

Neilson does the Broadcast/Cable ...
Nielsen does. If you go into the settings of any of your streaming accounts, you can turn off the option to share to usage data with their third party measuring service - Nielsen.
Jimbo
Nobody is "happy" or "sad" about this. Simply posting data in an non-editorialized way has nothing to do with anyone's feelings.

The data on the streaming side is immensely accurate, I'm guessing to the millisecond. Plus most people likely have not turned off data sharing and thus they are grabbing a huge swath of data. Much more accurate than cable which relies on a smaller sample size and probably not to the second.

In either case, nobody is getting "double counted" because it's usage based. If I watch 100 minutes of content and 30 minutes is on Youtube and 20 minutes on Disney and 50 minutes on YTTV, it's going to show up as 30%, 20%, 50% slices of my personal pie respectively.

Nielsen does. If you go into the settings of any of your streaming accounts, you can turn off the option to share to usage data with their third party measuring service - Nielsen.
I have turned some off, not others ...
dishstaller

Funny thing is that as the screen size and pic quality increase, the quality of the programming has DEcreased.
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dishdude
skipped the OLED Tv entirely?

AI slop
dishstaller
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I figured some of the guys would be looking here for an answer. You'll need to use this link

I'll mention what happened over there. I don't want to cause Scott any issues or put him in a bad spot.
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dishstaller
If any of you know some of the guys from the board and you have their contact info, please reach out to them....many failed to update their contact info and some even had starband email addresses.
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Scott Greczkowski
I figured some of the guys would be looking here for an answer. You'll need to use this link

I'll mention what happened over there. I don't want to cause Scott any issues or put him in a bad spot.
Now I have to go check out what happened now. Lol!
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Scott Greczkowski
Went and looked, not too bad...

Just let people know the address is satelliteretailer.com as DishRetailer.COM is not working. :)
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osu1991
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:mad::mad::mad::mad:

Pissed off at the crappy healthcare costs

My health Insurance renewal for 2027 just came in. Going from $827 a month to $1,187 a month. Deductible going up a $1k to $9,350. Max out of pocket also going up $1k to $11,000. Doctor co-pay of $40. Urgent Care co-pay $50. ER 50% coinsurance after deductible. That's all in network. Out of network is double, should it be needed.

Have to think about this. I'm really tempted to just go without now. I only go to the doctor once or twice a year. I pay out of pocket for Tirzepitide and can do without the Rosuvastatin (crestor) now. Really tired of spending over $10k a year and getting nothing out of it.

After years with Blue Cross I switched last year to Ambetter as my Blue Cross premium was going from $1200 to $1800 for a Silver plan and the Bronze plan was still going to be $1300 at BCBS. Ambetter was $827 for the same coverage with a Bronze plan. Didn't think it would jump this much so soon.

I'm guessing a Silver plan is probably over $2,000 a month for 2027.
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Pissed off at the crappy healthcare costs
Are you employed with no work insurance or that is what you are paying for your workplace insurance? Or is that through Healthcare.gov? Retired? Eligible for medicare?
vazhog
that cut is only for illegals to get off the rolls and I was being sarcastic before -
osu1991
Are you employed with no work insurance or that is what you are paying for your workplace insurance? Or is that through Healthcare.gov? Retired? Eligible for medicare?
Started my own business in 2006, been self employed for 20 years this year.
meStevo
that cut is only for illegals to get off the rolls and I was being sarcastic before -

Even sarcastically it's wrong. Undocumented immigrants already weren't eligible for federal Medicaid, so there's no one to "get off the rolls." The immigrant-related pieces are a small part of the ~$1 trillion. They cut the federal match for emergency care from 90% to the state's regular rate and end eligibility for some lawful immigrants like refugees. Most of the "savings" come from work requirements, more frequent eligibility checks, and provider tax limits, which hit citizens.

Either way, the cost doesn't disappear. It shifts to states, hospitals, and everyone else's premiums and will only serve to make issues like those raised in this thread worse.
dishstaller
Undocumented immigrants already weren't eligible for federal Medicaid, so there's no one to "get off the rolls."
That's only part correct. Actually I had to look it up to make sure. There is NO Federal money going to Medicaid for illegals but there ARE some states that use State money to pay for Medicaid for illegals. Here's the list

    • California: Covers all income-eligible undocumented adults. [1, 2]
    • Colorado: Covers specific adult demographics (with upcoming budget caps in 2027). [1]
    • Illinois: Covers specific adult age brackets. [1]
    • New York: Covers specific adult demographics. [1]
    • Oregon: Covers all income-eligible undocumented adults. [1, 2]
    • Washington: Covers specific adult demographics. [1, 2]
    • Washington, D.C.: Provides adult coverage through the D.C. Health Care Alliance. [1, 2]
meStevo
That's only part correct. Actually I had to look it up to make sure. There is NO Federal money going to Medicaid for illegals but there ARE some states that use State money to pay for Medicaid for illegals. Here's the list

    • California: Covers all income-eligible undocumented adults. [1, 2]
    • Colorado: Covers specific adult demographics (with upcoming budget caps in 2027). [1]
    • Illinois: Covers specific adult age brackets. [1]
    • New York: Covers specific adult demographics. [1]
    • Oregon: Covers all income-eligible undocumented adults. [1, 2]
    • Washington: Covers specific adult demographics. [1, 2]
    • Washington, D.C.: Provides adult coverage through the D.C. Health Care Alliance. [1, 2]

Fair point, but it's consistent with what I said: no federal Medicaid money goes to undocumented immigrants. Those programs are state-funded, so the federal ~$1T cut can't touch them. Whatever states decide to do with their own programs is a separate budget decision.
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vazhog
The feds give money to the states for them to use - Cutting the fed funding only means the taxpayer savings will passed onto the states that need to make up the Fed dollars cut -See the list above for those states affected
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We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so... :)
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
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dfergie
Chili dog bowl, water… (homemade chili)
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Leftover wanton soup and pork fried rice. Water.
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Sweet tea…
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Tuna salad sandwich on toasted honey whole wheat bread with a handful of kettle chips. Water.
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Breakfast for lunch. Crispy corned beef hash, home fries, two over easy eggs and sourdough toast.

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Weird F1 weekend is already over with a Saturday race.
dfergie
Tried to watch the truck race but the stage c**p is why I don't watch NASCAR anymore…
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Today is the anniversary of Dan Wheldon's passing at Las Vegas in a dreadful crash that luckily didn't take more drivers' lives. I vaguely remember the crash, but I more strongly remember Paul Tracy trying to keep it together as he left the Medical Center knowing that Dan most likely wasn't going to.

The safety in these vehicles is beyond incomprehensible, especially relative to what it was 60 years ago, when dying wasn't unexpected. But it is still very dangerous. I always scoff at the prayer invocations, but never scoff at the risks these drivers take and the emergency workers out there who might need to pull short of a miracle to save a driver's life.
Tried to watch the truck race but the stage c**p is why I don't watch NASCAR anymore…
HBO Max has the live in car streaming without commercials, which provides an interesting take, but you are driving blind, knowing only what the team is telling the driver about what is happening on the track. The stages definitely ruin the NASCAR set up.
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NASCAR is an abject mess, but at least it has Kyle Larson. Guy had the lead on the green/white checker, fell back to 12th or the like, kept his cool, and charged back to win with room to spare at the line. And win very cleanly!

NASCAR needs to stop racing at Talladega. Especially if they are going for elderly Sunday drives at the track! Stage racing is real stupid, but NASCAR should consider one half point a second per group gap as a bonus.