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I have searched the forum and found many posts regarding the non-functioning of the the Caller ID/Call log.

I have a H24-100 and it works fine for the Caller ID. I also have a H25-100 and the Caller ID setup looks exactly the SAME. The option is there just like on the H24. YET, it simply does NOT work (the Call Log) on the H25. What kind of nonsense is that - to clearly show that the "option" IS available, and then there is NO way that you can get it work ??? Shame !!
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EarDemon
Only a rarity if you live, work, frequent areas with decent cell phone coverage. I get no service period from the two GSM providers and very poor service from the two CDMA providers. Plus cell phone quality is generally garbage compared to a decent landline. Even if I had reception at home, I'd still use my landline, besides quality I find cordless phone more comfortable to hold to the ear then smartphone are.
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Claude Greiner
Only a rarity if you live, work, frequent areas with decent cell phone coverage. I get no service period from the two GSM providers and very poor service from the two CDMA providers. Plus cell phone quality is generally garbage compared to a decent landline. Even if I had reception at home, I'd still use my landline, besides quality I find cordless phone more comfortable to hold to the ear then smartphone are.

I still have a flip phone. I hate talking on a smart phone.

If you got decent internet you can get a cell booster
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EarDemon
I still have a flip phone. I hate talking on a smart phone.

If you got decent internet you can get a cell booster

I do not care for femtocells, I have gigabit broadband from Charter, so internet speed is not a concern. I had a Sprint one at home for a few years and used to manage AT&T ones at work. Yes, they do what they do, but they suck to maintain. At the end of the day all they do is turn your cell phone into VOIP, wifi calling can do the same thing. The one I had with Sprint could not maintain a GPS signal where it was located, so every week or so I'd have to unravel the antenna then stick it out the window for a few minutes so it could re-acquire the GPS signal. At work, we had a seven or eight AT&T ones due to having AT&T company phones at the time and their non existent reception in the village I work in. They would frequently freeze up and stop functioning and need a power cycle, and you could not roam from one to the next if you were walking across the office and talking at the same time. Switched to Verizon and all was good.

Wifi calling is an option, but my experience is that it is terrible and I have had nothing but problems with it. Phone will not ring most of the time on wifi, calls go directly to voicemail, most of the times it takes three or four attempts to make a successful outbound call.

At the end of the day, I want to be able to have access to the phone in the case of a power outage. My cable node is not battery backed up, so power goes out and I lose cable internet and phone. Because of no internet, femtocells and wifi calling are useless. I can't speak for the femtocell but I know that the latency is too high with satellite to use wifi calling over my HugheNet connection. All or my networking equipment router, wireless access point, main smart switch, cable modem and satellite modem are on UPS battery back up.

All true, however the World decided that they like to mobility of the Cell and most homes have went away from landlines ... particularly younger families.

I would say in my work, I probably get 5-10% of my work is landline work and 80% of that 10% is business lines.

Yes, people suck. Discreet multichannel music playback could have been the mainstream norm if the DVD-A/SACD format war played out. Instead we wound up with 128k MP3s. Woopie!

Most people would rather have convenience over reliability and quality. Those people are morons.

I treat my smartphone as an always connected PDA. This is my usage from last month. As you can see I hardly ever use it as a phone.
D
Only a rarity if you live, work, frequent areas with decent cell phone coverage. I get no service period from the two GSM providers and very poor service from the two CDMA providers. Plus cell phone quality is generally garbage compared to a decent landline. Even if I had reception at home, I'd still use my landline, besides quality I find cordless phone more comfortable to hold to the ear then smartphone are.

To add on to this, the main reason why I still have a landline, is that if I go to dial 911 & I'm incapacitated, emergency dispatch immediately sees my exact address & knows exactly where to send an ambulance, police, etc. In our area, if the call is disconnected & they cannot get you back on the phone, they will still dispatch police to the address to render assistance.
Jimbo
To add on to this, the main reason why I still have a landline, is that if I go to dial 911 & I'm incapacitated, emergency dispatch immediately sees my exact address & knows exactly where to send an ambulance, police, etc. In our area, if the call is disconnected & they cannot get you back on the phone, they will still dispatch police to the address to render assistance.
Are you saying that 911 doesn't work on Cell service ?
They should be able to trace your where abouts as well.
D
Are you saying that 911 doesn't work on Cell service ?

I NEVER said it didn't "work" - there's differing definitions of "working"... ;)

Many areas have already been upgraded so 911 shows the proper location info

911 from a cell (anywhere) does NOT show an exact, street/apt address where you're calling from; at best it's only going to be an approximate coordinate, which still causes precious minutes to be wasted in trying to hunt the exact location down. (think heart attack, stroke, robbery, etc. ) If you have proof to the contrary, please post it.
Now OTOH, there (still) are some areas in the country, that their 911 systems do NOT give an exact address EVEN from a landline. (there's actually about 1/2 dozen counties in IL that still don't to this day... :eek: ) In that case, then it probably doesn't make that much of a diff whether you call from a cell or landline...assuming you still have reliable cell service.
Jimbo
I NEVER said it didn't "work" - there's differing definitions of "working"... ;)



911 from a cell (anywhere) does NOT show an exact, street/apt address where you're calling from; at best it's only going to be an approximate coordinate, which still causes precious minutes to be wasted in trying to hunt the exact location down. (think heart attack, stroke, robbery, etc. ) If you have proof to the contrary, please post it.
The link showed that 911 works with Cell service being digital vs analog ... didn't say it had addresses.
The only reason the analog has addresses is because a landline is assigned to an address.

GPS can find you within a 3 ft section on the map, I would think they would also be able to find your Cell phone ... so if the GPS is turned on when you call 911, they should also be able to come up with where you are.
D
The link showed that 911 works with Cell service being digital vs analog ... didn't say it had addresses.
The only reason the analog has addresses is because a landline is assigned to an address.

Have no clue what you're trying to say here...bottom line, NO cell phones - whether they're analog or digital - have ever sent an address to the local PSAP. E911 systems are not equipped to deal with that...because (obviously) a cell phone is NOT considered to be at a "fixed location". So there would never be a point to have an address provided in the first place.

Any landline provider who offers full E911 support - whether it be legacy AT&T or any other LEC/CLEC, a landline base VOIP provider like Comcast, U-verse, etc...sends a service address record of a customer's service & their phone#, to the local PSAP when the service is installed. If that service is ever disconnected or moved, another record is sent to update accordingly. That is why an exact address comes up on an E911 dispatch computer, when such a call is placed.

GPS can find you within a 3 ft section on the map, I would think they would also be able to find your Cell phone ... so if the GPS is turned on when you call 911, they should also be able to come up with where you are.

And if the GPS is turned off??? Sorry, but a 3ft section margin of error doesn't make my warm & fuzzy...what about people that live in (very) high density living areas? (think high-rise apartments/condo's) Again, a 3-ft margin of error is still going to waste time.

FYI, not that this will matter at all here...but I used to do telecom managing for 3 over decades, of which I used to work in E911 database updates in government, so I have a VERY clear understanding of how E911 works.
Jimbo
Have no clue what you're trying to say here...bottom line, NO cell phones - whether they're analog or digital - have ever sent an address to the local PSAP. E911 systems are not equipped to deal with that...because (obviously) a cell phone is NOT considered to be at a "fixed location". So there would never be a point to have an address provided in the first place.

Any landline provider who offers full E911 support - whether it be legacy AT&T or any other LEC/CLEC, a landline base VOIP provider like Comcast, U-verse, etc...sends a service address record of a customer's service & their phone#, to the local PSAP when the service is installed. If that service is ever disconnected or moved, another record is sent to update accordingly. That is why an exact address comes up on an E911 dispatch computer, when such a call is placed.



And if the GPS is turned off??? Sorry, but a 3ft section margin of error doesn't make my warm & fuzzy...what about people that live in (very) high density living areas? (think high-rise apartments/condo's) Again, a 3-ft margin of error is still going to waste time.
Did I not say the same thing you did ?

As far as the GPS, if its turned off, your out of luck ...
IF I can pinpoint you with GPS turned on to 3 ft .... how can that not find you, how is that a waste of time ?
Jimbo
How did this turn into a Cell phone and 911 thread ?
You were trying to find out about what you can use for a camper and home ...

I tried to help you with the original issue you asked about as did others, but you just want to discredit everything.
D
How did this turn into a Cell phone and 911 thread ?
You were trying to find out about what you can use for a camper and home ...

Uh, I'm on a completely different thread from the camping one...have NO idea what you just posted here??? But to help catch you up, couple others in this thread actually brought up cellphones/landlines & I responded accordingly...which you did as well. :confused:

I tried to help you with the original issue you asked about as did others, but you just want to discredit everything.

Sorry that I'm asking reasonable questions that I can't get reasonable responses on...
Jimbo
Uh, I'm on a completely different thread from the camping one...have NO idea what you just posted here??? But to help catch you up, couple others in this thread actually brought up cellphones/landlines & I responded accordingly...which you did as well. :confused:



Sorry that I'm asking reasonable questions that I can't get reasonable responses on...
With all the bouncing around, I don't remember what the correct questions are.

Shoot, I am mixing two different threads up. :confused::sorry
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Claude Greiner
I do not care for femtocells, I have gigabit broadband from Charter, so internet speed is not a concern. I had a Sprint one at home for a few years and used to manage AT&T ones at work. Yes, they do what they do, but they suck to maintain. At the end of the day all they do is turn your cell phone into VOIP, wifi calling can do the same thing. The one I had with Sprint could not maintain a GPS signal where it was located, so every week or so I'd have to unravel the antenna then stick it out the window for a few minutes so it could re-acquire the GPS signal. At work, we had a seven or eight AT&T ones due to having AT&T company phones at the time and their non existent reception in the village I work in. They would frequently freeze up and stop functioning and need a power cycle, and you could not roam from one to the next if you were walking across the office and talking at the same time. Switched to Verizon and all was good.

Wifi calling is an option, but my experience is that it is terrible and I have had nothing but problems with it. Phone will not ring most of the time on wifi, calls go directly to voicemail, most of the times it takes three or four attempts to make a successful outbound call.

At the end of the day, I want to be able to have access to the phone in the case of a power outage. My cable node is not battery backed up, so power goes out and I lose cable internet and phone. Because of no internet, femtocells and wifi calling are useless. I can't speak for the femtocell but I know that the latency is too high with satellite to use wifi calling over my HugheNet connection. All or my networking equipment router, wireless access point, main smart switch, cable modem and satellite modem are on UPS battery back up.



Yes, people suck. Discreet multichannel music playback could have been the mainstream norm if the DVD-A/SACD format war played out. Instead we wound up with 128k MP3s. Woopie!

Most people would rather have convenience over reliability and quality. Those people are morons.

I treat my smartphone as an always connected PDA. This is my usage from last month. As you can see I hardly ever use it as a phone.

The femtocell works just fine. Only issue if if you walk out of range it will drop the call.

However if your out of range and move within range, I think it transfers the call over. I know it does but drop.

It solved the issue with my phone not ringing when sitting at my desk at work.

I actually put no answer transfer on my line and send it to my desk phone for 2 rings before going to voice mail.

Using the no answer transfer I can use my company voice mail system on my cell phone and get my voice mail transcribed to email
Anony55
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
For quite a while now, people with a VIP211k have been losing their recordings on their activated external HDDs... even when there's nothing physically wrong with HDD. I believe this is an intentional and underhanded tactic that Dish is pulling in an attempt to force users away from the VIP211k.

They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.

Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.

On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.

It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.

I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.
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Nebugeater
Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally
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Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally
Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.
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Nebugeater
Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.


Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion
Anony55
Well, after nine months of being on pause, I finally figured out that I was wasting $5 a month. So I cancelled. For the first time since 2010, I no longer have a Dish account.

I do have to say that I did appreciate the account pause option. That just gives a person some time to see what the fallout of cancelling will be... without having to go all the way over the cliff first.

Since I never once had an "oh shoot, I need Dish Network for..." moment, the decision was a lot easier.

Funny enough, when I called to cancel (for real, not playing the pricing game), all of a sudden, they were offering me deals that I was told before that I couldn't get without changing out my VIP211k. Now, I could have had those specials with them just sending me a new card for the receiver. LOL!

Of course, my mind was already made up because of having not missed the service while on pause. That, and the fact that I bet the 211k still kills recordings.

All in all, I'm glad that I had Dish for all those years. I just outgrew the need, and they pressed the issue by deleting recordings. I would have eventually went this route without the deleted recordings issue. But, for sure, that did hasten the outcome.

I'll still pop in at this site from time to time. Believe it or not, I still have a C/Ku BUD that I intend on playing with again if life ever slows down.
dishstaller
Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion
Unless things have changed at Dish, which is entirely possible, they won't activate the 211, even as a replacement. I gave one to a customer a while back....which when I turned it off I made sure to tell the CSR I wanted it freed up so another customer could use it, I was assured it was.....and when they called to swap out there's they were told it couldn't be done. Now like I said, things MIGHT HAVE CHANGED.
Anony55
Unless things have changed at Dish, which is entirely possible, they won't activate the 211, even as a replacement. I gave one to a customer a while back....which when I turned it off I made sure to tell the CSR I wanted it freed up so another customer could use it, I was assured it was.....and when they called to swap out there's they were told it couldn't be done. Now like I said, things MIGHT HAVE CHANGED.
It hasn't changed. When I cancelled my service the other day, they told me I didn't need to return the receiver (which I already knew because I purchased it).

But in addition to that, the young man told me not to sell it, but to take it to a recycling place. The reason he gave for the advice was because 211Ks can no longer be activated.

So as far as the VIP211k goes... once grandpa dies, he's dead.
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I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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dishstaller
I really dislike change for the sake of change
dishdude
I like the new look, it's a lot cleaner. I'm using it on one of those Onn streaming devices when I travel.
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I like the new look, it's a lot cleaner. I'm using it on one of those Onn streaming devices when I travel.
Yes a lot cleaner, glossier, and less functional. Someone trying to justify why they are making a big salary. "See look shiny"
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navychop
"Big salary." Charlie. "?Big?"
Tampa8
Seems in some ways better. Nicer layout, as others said maybe cleaner. Moving ahead in the guide is better.
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Foxbat
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Apple has finally released their Apple TV 4K with built-in Siri and a microphone so it can respond to your queries even if you don't have the remote. It also increases in price, to $299. I had been planning on updating my current Apple TV 4K streamers, but that's $600 for the two of them, and that's a pass at this point.

At $299, it had better come with 256 GB of Storage, Gigabit (or better) Ethernet, the latest HDMI tech and standards, and one year of free Apple One. But it probably won't…
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Ronnie-
Meh. The 4Ks I have will do everything that these do that I need them to do.


Which that's most tech these days for anything released the last four to five years.


It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.
navychop
It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.

Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.
navychop
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
KAB
KAB
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!
S
Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.
they all do that anyways.. ever notice your cell phone slows down when you come up for an upgrade.. :what. apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
ncted
Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!
Yeah, they boot up a bit slower than Roku, but the OS does a lot more, so it makes sense. How often are you booting them up that is a differentiator? Aside from OS updates, mine are on all the time. I will say the ATV4K is generally quicker than the Roku Ultras I have, when it comes to launching apps and responsiveness, not that the Roku is sluggish.
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navychop
apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while

What software? For iPhones? I tried to buy some image s/w IN THE APPLE STORE! They had none, and could not offer ANY s/w for iPhones
ncted
apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
I assume you mean services, like iCloud and Apple Music, and not actual software sales. Services have been growing quickly for Apple, but hardware still brings home the bacon. As for where Apple's revenue comes from, the iPhone is still king with 49.58% of revenue as of June 2026. Services comes in second with 28%. iPad, Mac, and Wearables/Home makes up the rest. So, that is 72% coming from hardware. Their profit margin is around 25%, FWIW.

I am skeptical the AppleTV 4k makes them much money on the hardware though, which I suspect is what you were getting at.
ncted
What software? For iPhones? I tried to buy some image s/w IN THE APPLE STORE! They had none, and could not offer ANY s/w for iPhones
You should have looked in the APP STORE instead. ;)
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navychop
Will do!
cpdretired
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Several Dish offers showed up today in my account. Once you choose one the rest are removed. Offers were Showtime, Starz, AMC and others.
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Just checked my account and it shows mgm+ at 8.00 per month, but that has red line drawn thru it and shows 0.00 per month. But it doesn't say how long this lasts,...... 1 month, 3 months, forever. I called customer service to get an answer, and they said nothing like that exists. Should I add the offer or not? Already paying them too much, but want to take advantage of something free.
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Just checked my account and it shows mgm+ at 8.00 per month, but that has red line drawn thru it and shows 0.00 per month. But it doesn't say how long this lasts,...... 1 month, 3 months, forever. I called customer service to get an answer, and they said nothing like that exists. Should I add the offer or not? Already paying them too much, but want to take advantage of something free.
look again mine says free for 1 month
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Almighty1
look again mine says free for 1 month
Not for me, mines has no mention of how long aka the offer period and the Terms and conditions the $0.00 is good for. All I see is one can lose $5.00 if you decide to remove it before day 31 after you add it to the account.

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Not for me, mines has no mention of how long aka the offer period and the Terms and conditions the $0.00 is good for. All I see is one can lose $5.00 if you decide to remove it before day 31 after you add it to the account.

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wonder why it says that
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Almighty1
look again mine says free for 1 month
You have a different offer that is free for a shorter timeframe which is different than the one that I and bnewt saw without defining the promotion period as I sent the question to DISH Care via Facebook Messenger and this is the response I got back 20 minutes ago.

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Almighty1
wonder why it says that
Answer 2 minutes ago from DISH Care via Facebook Messenger:
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osu1991
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Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
dishstaller
Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
But.....if you like Tulsa King....looks like you would probably like this as well. I don't mind spin-offs as long as they don't involve a sassy niece who moves from the big city :rolleyes:
TheRatPatrol
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Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Jimbo

Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
Jimbo
Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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dfergie
I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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Would you rather have LaRoche ???
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
Jimbo
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.

It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.