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I've had Charter internet for a couple years now and never really had any issues. But my price recently went from $45 to $65 per month for 100mbps. Yesterday I had an AT&T salesperson stop by and said that their fiber internet service just recently became available in my neighborhood. She's offering the same speed for $50 per month (that price is based on payment by automatic withdrawal). The problem is I don't know anyone else in my area that has internet through them so I have no way of knowing how reliable it is. I'm a little leary of signing a one year contract for an unknown service. Does anyone here have an opinion on the subject?


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Well, today was the acid test of Spectrum vs. AT&T Fiber at my house. Some of this information is repeated from earlier posts.

We've been on AT&T Gigabit Fiber since we moved in 2017. Spectrum finally offered us a deal worth considering: 400/20 for $50 for 24 months with no commitment, so I signed up. Got the Synology router which does dual WAN connections. Setup requires some significant technical knowledge if you want to do anything beyond the basics, but that is pretty true of any device with the same capabilities. The firewall with port forwarding in particular took some trial and error to get right.

After thorough testing using a variety of applications, including latency-sensitive ones like X forwarding over ssh, I could detect little difference in usability between the two ISPs. Pings were about 10ms slower to my work VPN endpoint on Spectrum which was not surprising, and traceroute showed a similar number of hops between my home and work. I was surprised that both ISPs routed traffic all the way to DC and back, even though they both have direct connections locally to NCREN, which is one of the Internet connections for my employer.

The real test, however, was my wife's daily workflow. She is an finance manager at the same employer, and her workflow unfortunately includes opening and working on large Excel spreadsheets from some kind of SMB NAS (pretty sure it is Isilon). She cannot change to a better solution like Box Drive or One Drive that have local caching, even though both are available, due to technology choices that are out of her control. This is where that 10ms and possibly the symmetrical gigabit come into play. In her work today (on Spectrum), 100MB Excel files that usually take around 30 seconds to save were taking 1-3 minutes. This severely impacted her work. She was very kind to put up with it for the day. I have switched back to AT&T as the primary WAN connection, and she will confirm whether that improves things for her tomorrow, although a quick test tonight seemed to show the <30 second save time that she is used to seeing.

Based on results so far, it looks like we will be continuing to pay $70/month to the Death Star for the time being, and the Spectrum modem will go back to the store. At least we get HBOmax?

If anyone has any suggestions on how to speed up SMB traffic over a VPN, please don't hesitate to share.

Also, I added a Synology MR2200AC to improve coverage in our sun room typically works, and it really works well.
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Based on results so far, it looks like we will be continuing to pay $70/month to the Death Star for the time being, and the Spectrum modem will go back to the store. At least we get HBOmax?
Since you're getting HBO Max included, I assume you're on AT&T Fiber's gigabit tier? And you pay $70/mo total, including the gateway rental? That's pretty great for an ongoing price. I mean, it's the same deal that they offer to new subs, supposedly only for the first year (although everyone says it's easy to get them to extend the first-year pricing indefinitely if you just ask every year).

If you don't care about HBO Max, could you drop down to the 300/300 tier for $15/mo less? Although that savings is the same as the cost of HBO Max, so if it's something you'd otherwise get (as I do), then there's no point. How much bandwidth do you really need? You can get 100/100 for $45/mo. Well, new subs can, I don't know if you could downgrade to it at that price.

Around here, Comcast is offering new subs standalone 800/25 (or maybe its 800/35?) for $70/mo the first year and you have to supply the equipment. Then it jumps to $100/mo in year two. Or you can take a 2-yr contract and lock in a rate of $70/mo for both years before it goes to the regular price. No free HBO Max either way but hey, you do get free Peacock Premium, a $5/mo value!
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Since you're getting HBO Max included, I assume you're on AT&T Fiber's gigabit tier? And you pay $70/mo total, including the gateway rental? That's pretty great for an ongoing price. I mean, it's the same deal that they offer to new subs, supposedly only for the first year (although everyone says it's easy to get them to extend the first-year pricing indefinitely if you just ask every year).

If you don't care about HBO Max, could you drop down to the 300/300 tier for $15/mo less? Although that savings is the same as the cost of HBO Max, so if it's something you'd otherwise get (as I do), then there's no point. How much bandwidth do you really need? You can get 100/100 for $45/mo. Well, new subs can, I don't know if you could downgrade to it at that price.

Around here, Comcast is offering new subs standalone 800/25 (or maybe its 800/35?) for $70/mo the first year and you have to supply the equipment. Then it jumps to $100/mo in year two. Or you can take a 2-yr contract and lock in a rate of $70/mo for both years before it goes to the regular price. No free HBO Max either way but hey, you do get free Peacock Premium, a $5/mo value!
Yes, it is the gig tier with no equipment fee. It is not a bad price, especially if you include HBOmax. We normally wouldn't have that all year long though. I've tried to get an ongoing deal on the service, but they don't seem to be playing ball in my area at the moment. 300/300 would be fine. 100/100 would probably be as well, but neither of those are currently on offer in my market. The only option is gig. I asked. New customers are paying $35 for gig. At the end of the day, the price is worth it since it keeps my wife working at an acceptable speed.
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Yes, it is the gig tier with no equipment fee. It is not a bad price, especially if you include HBOmax. We normally wouldn't have that all year long though. I've tried to get an ongoing deal on the service, but they don't seem to be playing ball in my area at the moment. 300/300 would be fine. 100/100 would probably be as well, but neither of those are currently on offer in my market. The only option is gig. I asked. New customers are paying $35 for gig. At the end of the day, the price is worth it since it keeps my wife working at an acceptable speed.
Hmm, I didn't realize that they were still offering only the gig tier to new subs anywhere. That was the case here for part of last year but then they switched back to the three tiers, but now with unlimited data on all of them (not just the gig). Maybe they tailor what they're offering per market based on the main cableco they're competing with? It's Comcast here.
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Hmm, I didn't realize that they were still offering only the gig tier to new subs anywhere. That was the case here for part of last year but then they switched back to the three tiers, but now with unlimited data on all of them (not just the gig). Maybe they tailor what they're offering per market based on the main cableco they're competing with? It's Comcast here.
Here it is Charter, but also fiber service from Frontier, Google, Ting and some other smaller players in various areas that are still in a state of growth. Depending on your address, you could potentially have access to 3 or more companies offering "gig" service.
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Here it is Charter, but also fiber service from Frontier, Google, Ting and some other smaller players in various areas that are still in a state of growth. Depending on your address, you could potentially have access to 3 or more companies offering "gig" service.
Yeah, Google Fiber is present in Nashville too, they actually began deploying here before AT&T Fiber, which has now greatly surpassed them. Not sure if AT&T wired up all the neighborhoods that already had GF or not, although I know at least one of the first urban neighborhoods to get GF has AT&T Fiber now too, and of course had Comcast before either arrived. (Not sure why AT&T spent resources doing that when there's still likely lots of suburban neighborhoods without any fiber provider.)

So there may be some addresses there in NC that are served by both GF and either AT&T or Frontier Fiber too. I'd be really surprised, though, if any home had three fiber providers, as I doubt there's any overlap between telcos AT&T and Frontier, or between tiny Ting and any other fiber provider. (Too bad for those homes that end up with Ting instead of a different company, as all they offer is a 1 gig plan for "$89/mo plus start-up costs". I guess they're just going for top-end customers who don't want cable.)
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Yeah, Google Fiber is present in Nashville too, they actually began deploying here before AT&T Fiber, which has now greatly surpassed them. Not sure if AT&T wired up all the neighborhoods that already had GF or not, although I know at least one of the first urban neighborhoods to get GF has AT&T Fiber now too, and of course had Comcast before either arrived. (Not sure why AT&T spent resources doing that when there's still likely lots of suburban neighborhoods without any fiber provider.)

So there may be some addresses there in NC that are served by both GF and either AT&T or Frontier Fiber too. I'd be really surprised, though, if any home had three fiber providers, as I doubt there's any overlap between telcos AT&T and Frontier, or between tiny Ting and any other fiber provider. (Too bad for those homes that end up with Ting instead of a different company, as all they offer is a 1 gig plan for "$89/mo plus start-up costs". I guess they're just going for top-end customers who don't want cable.)
It is a mish-mash. I have access to AT&T and Spectrum, but Frontier has announced fiber for my address -- they are the ILEC. There are parts of Holly Springs and Apex that have Spectrum, Ting, and AT&T, and lots of apartment complexes across the region have Google, AT&T, and Spectrum as options. Not sure why customers in this area get so much competition. There are very few addresses that don't have Spectrum and one of the others to choose from.

FWIW: My coworker just switched from AT&T Fiber to Ting and is only paying $60/month for 2 years. Ting seems to have focused on suburban neighborhoods here instead of MDUs for some reason.
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It is a mish-mash. I have access to AT&T and Spectrum, but Frontier has announced fiber for my address -- they are the ILEC. There are parts of Holly Springs and Apex that have Spectrum, Ting, and AT&T, and lots of apartment complexes across the region have Google, AT&T, and Spectrum as options. Not sure why customers in this area get so much competition. There are very few addresses that don't have Spectrum and one of the others to choose from.

FWIW: My coworker just switched from AT&T Fiber to Ting and is only paying $60/month for 2 years. Ting seems to have focused on suburban neighborhoods here instead of MDUs for some reason.
That amount of overbuilding between fiber competitors makes no sense. Building out in an area where there's just one competitor (the cableco) makes sense. But where there's already two competitors? Spend the money building out somewhere else.
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That amount of overbuilding between fiber competitors makes no sense. Building out in an area where there's just one competitor (the cableco) makes sense. But where there's already two competitors? Spend the money building out somewhere else.
Yeah, it does seem pretty stupid. I get the impression they all have the same idea which addresses will make them money, and aren't paying attention to who is already there or is planning to build out there.

Also, some of it is Spectrum and AT&T Uverse VDSL were already there, so Google thought they would swoop in, only to have AT&T replace Uverse VDSL with FTTH right before, during, or after the Google install.

In my neighborhood, Frontier already has bonded VDSL, so I guess they think it will be easy to put in fiber? AT&T overbuilt Frontier copper at my address, which they do not apparently do normally. I think it might have just been an easy win for them since they had put in so much dark fiber in the region during the dotcom boom, including along both state highways that border my development.
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The Internet transplant was a success. The AT&T Tech called to let me know he was stopping at the FTTN node to switch us over to the new Lightspeed connection which would knock us off as the old 2Wire router couldn't connect to it. He brought in the new router and after downloading firmware we were off to the races.
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Hello everyone.

I am new here and I done a search on MLB Extra Innings and DISH and it led me to this forum and so I signed up and hopefully someone can help me out with some issues.

First off, I am a DISH Outdoors customer and I signed up for service back in late October of 2025. I have a Wally HD Receiver and I am using the DISH Playmaker OS 2.1 as my Antenna that operates on 110 and 119 Western Arc and Alternative 61.5, 110, and 119 satellites. I signed up for MLB Extra Innings back in March before the season began. I was excited to be able to watch MLB Extra Innings because I love baseball and I use to have MLB Extra Innings on Satellite DIRECTV back in 2001-2004 and on Satellite DISH back in 2016 and 2017.

I was a bit disappointed when I found out that it is actually MLB.TV Simulcasted to DISH Satellite (More on that later) Anyways I have been watching faithfully almost every night however about a week ago there was a problem. When I went to go to the game to watch a game the game wouldn't come in an I would send a refresh signal to my receiver and then I could watch the programming and when I went to switch games at that games appointed time slot my Wally HD Receiver who lockup where I couldn't change any channels or view the guide and it would reboot. The next night when I turned to a game at game start it still had the background it shows before the game started and again send a refresh signal and went though this same thing over and over. I added a movie channel to my lineup and had issues with showing up my Dish Wally HD Receiver.

With an investigation after several calls with DISH Support it was determined that by going to the diagnostics screen that I had a issue with my Tuner because any changes that I made to my programming these changes would not take affect on the Wally HD Receiver. In other words that Wally HD Receiver was toast!

I too had reported MLB Extra Innings issue to DISH and they created a ticket for it and said that someone would investigate the issue. I too took notice that under MyDISH account under MLB Extra Innings always before it would show that I was subscribed and on auto-renew. Now it shows nothing and even after logging out and deleting my User Name and Password so that I can see it in guest mode it too doesn't even list a price and option for purchase as does the now WNBA League Pass.

After my DISH Receiver was ruined I had to buy a new Wally HD Receiver. I took advantage an bought 2 HD Wally's and added them both to my account. I called back to remove the old box off of the account and was told it was linked to MLB Extra Innings and the advanced technical support team said there was a glitch with MLB Extra Innings and hope to have a resolution in a couple of days and I could call back in to then to remove the box. But both the 2 new Wally HD Receivers are activated on my account. I asked them what the problem was with MLB Extra Innings and how long it would be and I was told there was a glitch as I asked to specify what they meant and got no answer. I again went and checked the MyDISH account page under the MLB Extra Innings page and it still doesn't list me as subscribed and after logging out and deleting my User Name and Password so I could it see it as a guest mode and it still doesn't list the price and option for purchase as it does for the WNBA League Pass.

I am afraid to boot up these boxes and go through the activation screen process because of the issues with the MLB Extra Innings in fear it will do the same or mess up my boxes from being able to receive MLB Extra Inning because or any other programing because I was told that MLB Extra Innings wouldn't come in on those new box because it was activated with the Wally that is ruined and it needs removed first.

Now I have no DISH service going on a week and miss my MLB Extra Innings when the races are just heating up and now with two boxes activated I can't boot up because I am afraid it will mess them up and I will be out the $180.00 or so dollars I made in purchase on the receivers.

Is anyone else experiencing issues with their MLB Extra Innings and does anyone really know what this so called glitch actually is? I can't seem to get a clear answer from anybody and don't even know if it will even be fixed or anyone really understands it.

Now to my previous statement on how I was disappointed that MLB Extra Innings is actually MLB.TV in simulcast. When I had MLB Extra Innings before with DIRECTV in 2001-2004 and with DISH form 2016 and 2017. They would always show the commercials for every teams broadcast from their local market and all games would be authentic just as if you were watching in their home market. After I quit DISH I went to streaming for awhile and I done MLB.TV and I hated their features because of the no commercials, the delayed times of getting back after the commercial break, and not being able to listen to what studios had to say when they would cut into the studios, and always looking at the screen during commercial breaks with a screen that says commercial break in progress and a silhouette background of MLB Players doing baseball things and the their crazy commercial breaks sound. I was excited to go back to DISH thinking I escaped the horrors of MLB.TV. Well its actually the same thing. I compared them side by side and actually MLB.TV is ahead by just a few seconds. So actually MLB Extra Innings on Satellite is delayed from time period wise from actually watching MLB.TV which shows it is simulcasted. My question is when did this start? And is this legal? This isn't what I know MLB Extra Innings to be. I too had signed up for NHL Center Ice this past winter and thank goodness its authentic! They still have the commercials and its like watching it as you were in their home network and its the way it oughta be even if you only do get one feed of NHL Center Ice per team on DISH and don't know which feed it is every night.

Looking forward to your responses. So far happy with DISH but unhappy with this last week and the ruining of a Wally HD Receiver.

I hope I can be of some contribution here as well.

Sincerely,

RJ T.
From Illinois
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Hello everyone.

I am new here and I done a search on MLB Extra Innings and DISH and it led me to this forum and so I signed up and hopefully someone can help me out with some issues.

First off, I am a DISH Outdoors customer and I signed up for service back in late October of 2025. I have a Wally HD Receiver and I am using the DISH Playmaker OS 2.1 as my Antenna that operates on 110 and 119 Western Arc and Alternative 61.5, 110, and 119 satellites. I signed up for MLB Extra Innings back in March before the season began. I was excited to be able to watch MLB Extra Innings because I love baseball and I use to have MLB Extra Innings on Satellite DIRECTV back in 2001-2004 and on Satellite DISH back in 2016 and 2017.

I was a bit disappointed when I found out that it is actually MLB.TV Simulcasted to DISH Satellite (More on that later) Anyways I have been watching faithfully almost every night however about a week ago there was a problem. When I went to go to the game to watch a game the game wouldn't come in an I would send a refresh signal to my receiver and then I could watch the programming and when I went to switch games at that games appointed time slot my Wally HD Receiver who lockup where I couldn't change any channels or view the guide and it would reboot. The next night when I turned to a game at game start it still had the background it shows before the game started and again send a refresh signal and went though this same thing over and over. I added a movie channel to my lineup and had issues with showing up my Dish Wally HD Receiver.

With an investigation after several calls with DISH Support it was determined that by going to the diagnostics screen that I had a issue with my Tuner because any changes that I made to my programming these changes would not take affect on the Wally HD Receiver. In other words that Wally HD Receiver was toast!

I too had reported MLB Extra Innings issue to DISH and they created a ticket for it and said that someone would investigate the issue. I too took notice that under MyDISH account under MLB Extra Innings always before it would show that I was subscribed and on auto-renew. Now it shows nothing and even after logging out and deleting my User Name and Password so that I can see it in guest mode it too doesn't even list a price and option for purchase as does the now WNBA League Pass.

After my DISH Receiver was ruined I had to buy a new Wally HD Receiver. I took advantage an bought 2 HD Wally's and added them both to my account. I called back to remove the old box off of the account and was told it was linked to MLB Extra Innings and the advanced technical support team said there was a glitch with MLB Extra Innings and hope to have a resolution in a couple of days and I could call back in to then to remove the box. But both the 2 new Wally HD Receivers are activated on my account. I asked them what the problem was with MLB Extra Innings and how long it would be and I was told there was a glitch as I asked to specify what they meant and got no answer. I again went and checked the MyDISH account page under the MLB Extra Innings page and it still doesn't list me as subscribed and after logging out and deleting my User Name and Password so I could it see it as a guest mode and it still doesn't list the price and option for purchase as it does for the WNBA League Pass.

I am afraid to boot up these boxes and go through the activation screen process because of the issues with the MLB Extra Innings in fear it will do the same or mess up my boxes from being able to receive MLB Extra Inning because or any other programing because I was told that MLB Extra Innings wouldn't come in on those new box because it was activated with the Wally that is ruined and it needs removed first.

Now I have no DISH service going on a week and miss my MLB Extra Innings when the races are just heating up and now with two boxes activated I can't boot up because I am afraid it will mess them up and I will be out the $180.00 or so dollars I made in purchase on the receivers.

Is anyone else experiencing issues with their MLB Extra Innings and does anyone really know what this so called glitch actually is? I can't seem to get a clear answer from anybody and don't even know if it will even be fixed or anyone really understands it.

Now to my previous statement on how I was disappointed that MLB Extra Innings is actually MLB.TV in simulcast. When I had MLB Extra Innings before with DIRECTV in 2001-2004 and with DISH form 2016 and 2017. They would always show the commercials for every teams broadcast from their local market and all games would be authentic just as if you were watching in their home market. After I quit DISH I went to streaming for awhile and I done MLB.TV and I hated their features because of the no commercials, the delayed times of getting back after the commercial break, and not being able to listen to what studios had to say when they would cut into the studios, and always looking at the screen during commercial breaks with a screen that says commercial break in progress and a silhouette background of MLB Players doing baseball things and the their crazy commercial breaks sound. I was excited to go back to DISH thinking I escaped the horrors of MLB.TV. Well its actually the same thing. I compared them side by side and actually MLB.TV is ahead by just a few seconds. So actually MLB Extra Innings on Satellite is delayed from time period wise from actually watching MLB.TV which shows it is simulcasted. My question is when did this start? And is this legal? This isn't what I know MLB Extra Innings to be. I too had signed up for NHL Center Ice this past winter and thank goodness its authentic! They still have the commercials and its like watching it as you were in their home network and its the way it oughta be even if you only do get one feed of NHL Center Ice per team on DISH and don't know which feed it is every night.

Looking forward to your responses. So far happy with DISH but unhappy with this last week and the ruining of a Wally HD Receiver.

I hope I can be of some contribution here as well.

Sincerely,

RJ T.
From Illinois
I have an update....

I just called back to DISH Customer Service this morning. They were very helpful. They said there would be no problem removing my damaged Wally HD Receiver off the account and they did an it is no longer there.

They told me to go ahead an setup the boxes which I am doing right now but they confirmed their is a problem with MLB Extra Innings. They totally removed the MLB Extra Innings channels off of DISH and they are not accessible at this time. It is also not available for purchase at this time. They are working to fix the problem and at this time no refunds are being issued. I am to continue to checking back once in awhile to see if there are any further updates.

Hope this can be of some assistance to some people with MLB Extra Innings.

I am not sure if they will ever get back or offer MLB Extra Innings again and if they will issue refunds if it closes out. They say PPV Sports are final and no refunds issued once the season begins so I would assume to believe this would apply to acts of God as well.

If nothing else I will just have to eat the $150.00 and wait on hockey in September.

RJ T.
Illinois
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I know they are doing some major satellite work - the second satellite at 110 which is now in use, and they are moving channels between 119 and 110. Maybe since there are no other sports going on, have they temporarily cut back on the out of market sports packages? I am not sure. It looks like those channels are all coming from 119 TP 13, 110 TP 12, and 110 TP 09.

Also, Dish's Scheduled Satellite Maintenance page doesn't have anything going on:

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I have an update....

I just called back to DISH Customer Service this morning. They were very helpful. They said there would be no problem removing my damaged Wally HD Receiver off the account and they did an it is no longer there.

They told me to go ahead an setup the boxes which I am doing right now but they confirmed their is a problem with MLB Extra Innings. They totally removed the MLB Extra Innings channels off of DISH and they are not accessible at this time. It is also not available for purchase at this time. They are working to fix the problem and at this time no refunds are being issued. I am to continue to checking back once in awhile to see if there are any further updates.

Hope this can be of some assistance to some people with MLB Extra Innings.

I am not sure if they will ever get back or offer MLB Extra Innings again and if they will issue refunds if it closes out. They say PPV Sports are final and no refunds issued once the season begins so I would assume to believe this would apply to acts of God as well.

If nothing else I will just have to eat the $150.00 and wait on hockey in September.

RJ T.
Illinois
Another update....

A few moments ago I was going though my channels. and saw that MLB Extra Innings channel 476-01 Baltimore Orioles was back. Checked the status and its on Satellite 119 and Transponder 13. It was on Satellite 110 before. Maybe this is the issue! With the new launch of the 110 Satellite and them moving things around this could be the reason MLB Extra Innings is off the air right now! However, it shouldn't of fried my Wally when this all happened. DISH owes me! LOL! But I will never see it.

It's great to know I am getting somewhere and that this could be the cause of the so called "Glitch" I would say its a pretty darn big "Glitch" a move to a different satellite and transponder!

And now I wait patiently....

RJ T.
From Illinois
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I know they are doing some major satellite work - the second satellite at 110 which is now in use, and they are moving channels between 119 and 110. Maybe since there are no other sports going on, have they temporarily cut back on the out of market sports packages? I am not sure. It looks like those channels are all coming from 119 TP 13, 110 TP 12, and 110 TP 09.

Also, Dish's Scheduled Satellite Maintenance page doesn't have anything going on:

Trying to get use to this forum and where everything is located at. I saw you responded from my post on the changes and took me a while to get back to see this post. But yes, it is exactly what I was thinking. I too noticed the change of MLB Extra Innings from 110 to 119. Because of 30 teams they have to algin everything. Only other sport going on PPV wise is WNBA League Pass and I do not have a subscription to that but maybe some else who has it can confirm what they done and what satellite and transponders they are on.

This is a big shift for DISH. I just hope if Charlie Ergen does ever sell out to anyone that I can continue to use my DISH Playmaker and I can keep my Wally's. If its anything like what happened to DIRECTV a few years back which turned out to be a total disaster when AT&T acquired DIRECTV nothing there changed with boxes or anything and you continued to use the same service but I was very surprised to see AT&T sell it to TPG especially after they had just bought it now long ago.

RJ T.
From Illinois
R
Hello everyone.

I am new here and I done a search on MLB Extra Innings and DISH and it led me to this forum and so I signed up and hopefully someone can help me out with some issues.

First off, I am a DISH Outdoors customer and I signed up for service back in late October of 2025. I have a Wally HD Receiver and I am using the DISH Playmaker OS 2.1 as my Antenna that operates on 110 and 119 Western Arc and Alternative 61.5, 110, and 119 satellites. I signed up for MLB Extra Innings back in March before the season began. I was excited to be able to watch MLB Extra Innings because I love baseball and I use to have MLB Extra Innings on Satellite DIRECTV back in 2001-2004 and on Satellite DISH back in 2016 and 2017.

I was a bit disappointed when I found out that it is actually MLB.TV Simulcasted to DISH Satellite (More on that later) Anyways I have been watching faithfully almost every night however about a week ago there was a problem. When I went to go to the game to watch a game the game wouldn't come in an I would send a refresh signal to my receiver and then I could watch the programming and when I went to switch games at that games appointed time slot my Wally HD Receiver who lockup where I couldn't change any channels or view the guide and it would reboot. The next night when I turned to a game at game start it still had the background it shows before the game started and again send a refresh signal and went though this same thing over and over. I added a movie channel to my lineup and had issues with showing up my Dish Wally HD Receiver.

With an investigation after several calls with DISH Support it was determined that by going to the diagnostics screen that I had a issue with my Tuner because any changes that I made to my programming these changes would not take affect on the Wally HD Receiver. In other words that Wally HD Receiver was toast!

I too had reported MLB Extra Innings issue to DISH and they created a ticket for it and said that someone would investigate the issue. I too took notice that under MyDISH account under MLB Extra Innings always before it would show that I was subscribed and on auto-renew. Now it shows nothing and even after logging out and deleting my User Name and Password so that I can see it in guest mode it too doesn't even list a price and option for purchase as does the now WNBA League Pass.

After my DISH Receiver was ruined I had to buy a new Wally HD Receiver. I took advantage an bought 2 HD Wally's and added them both to my account. I called back to remove the old box off of the account and was told it was linked to MLB Extra Innings and the advanced technical support team said there was a glitch with MLB Extra Innings and hope to have a resolution in a couple of days and I could call back in to then to remove the box. But both the 2 new Wally HD Receivers are activated on my account. I asked them what the problem was with MLB Extra Innings and how long it would be and I was told there was a glitch as I asked to specify what they meant and got no answer. I again went and checked the MyDISH account page under the MLB Extra Innings page and it still doesn't list me as subscribed and after logging out and deleting my User Name and Password so I could it see it as a guest mode and it still doesn't list the price and option for purchase as it does for the WNBA League Pass.

I am afraid to boot up these boxes and go through the activation screen process because of the issues with the MLB Extra Innings in fear it will do the same or mess up my boxes from being able to receive MLB Extra Inning because or any other programing because I was told that MLB Extra Innings wouldn't come in on those new box because it was activated with the Wally that is ruined and it needs removed first.

Now I have no DISH service going on a week and miss my MLB Extra Innings when the races are just heating up and now with two boxes activated I can't boot up because I am afraid it will mess them up and I will be out the $180.00 or so dollars I made in purchase on the receivers.

Is anyone else experiencing issues with their MLB Extra Innings and does anyone really know what this so called glitch actually is? I can't seem to get a clear answer from anybody and don't even know if it will even be fixed or anyone really understands it.

Now to my previous statement on how I was disappointed that MLB Extra Innings is actually MLB.TV in simulcast. When I had MLB Extra Innings before with DIRECTV in 2001-2004 and with DISH form 2016 and 2017. They would always show the commercials for every teams broadcast from their local market and all games would be authentic just as if you were watching in their home market. After I quit DISH I went to streaming for awhile and I done MLB.TV and I hated their features because of the no commercials, the delayed times of getting back after the commercial break, and not being able to listen to what studios had to say when they would cut into the studios, and always looking at the screen during commercial breaks with a screen that says commercial break in progress and a silhouette background of MLB Players doing baseball things and the their crazy commercial breaks sound. I was excited to go back to DISH thinking I escaped the horrors of MLB.TV. Well its actually the same thing. I compared them side by side and actually MLB.TV is ahead by just a few seconds. So actually MLB Extra Innings on Satellite is delayed from time period wise from actually watching MLB.TV which shows it is simulcasted. My question is when did this start? And is this legal? This isn't what I know MLB Extra Innings to be. I too had signed up for NHL Center Ice this past winter and thank goodness its authentic! They still have the commercials and its like watching it as you were in their home network and its the way it oughta be even if you only do get one feed of NHL Center Ice per team on DISH and don't know which feed it is every night.

Looking forward to your responses. So far happy with DISH but unhappy with this last week and the ruining of a Wally HD Receiver.

I hope I can be of some contribution here as well.

Sincerely,

RJ T.
From Illinois
Update on MLB Extra Innings as of 5:50 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026...

I am getting tired of not being able to watch any baseball games and having paid for MLB Extra Innings and not knowing what the reason is I called dish back at 1-800-333-3474. I guess after all of my calls my call was routed to the Advanced Technical Support Team. I had something happen that I never knew they could do and they gained access into my Wally Receiver. I was told settings look good and right now on the only channel that shows is the MLB1 Baltimore Orioles Channel. They are playing the at home against the Seattle Mariners right now. She was able to access to that channel which prompted a purchase a Rent option. That signaled a red flag to her right away. She escalated a ticket with photographs and info from my screen to the top tier advanced programing technical department and told me they received the ticket and are reviewing it now. They got back to her and said they would have information within 30 minutes. I either get the channels within 30 minutes or I am to call back and they will advance from there. Seems like maybe my persistence is paying off. I will keep you informed. Maybe we can all have a resolution to this shortly.

RJ T.
From Illinois
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I was bewildered with all the new DISH TV "Bonus View" channels, so I put together a web page table with all the info I could find. It's at:

https://anythingpeaceful.org/dishtv/DISH_TV_Bonus_View_Channels.html

Here's a partial screenshot of the table, as sorted by Channel Name. (You can click on a column header to sort.)

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If you have any corrections or suggestions, please post here.
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2 Bonus View channels removed today:

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My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels

Thanks to Pat for the tip.
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One added, one removed. But I think it's really only a name change, with similar (or identical?) programming.

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My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels

Thanks to Pat for the alert.
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One added, one removed. But I think it's really only a name change, with similar (or identical?) programming.

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My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels

Thanks to Pat for the alert.
A dandilion by any other name.
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New low power station has been granted by the FCC and the new call leter is K33OB-D on RF ch. 33.

Will run at 15 KW ERP, this one runs from the Westside same location as KWPL-LD a HC2 owned station.

It's going to be aimed at eastern part of Albuquerque, so it's tightly focused beam pattern.

This new station is owned by Digital Network and what kind of programmings is unkown at this time.😎
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This new station is owned by Digital Network and what kind of programmings is unkown at this time
probably the same programming they have been putting on their other owned stations.
The 'get after it media' stations
Like Heartland, Retro, rev'n, Action etc
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Hope they got good subchannels encoder going there...😎👍🤞
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probably the same programming they have been putting on their other owned stations.
The 'get after it media' stations
Like Heartland, Retro, rev'n, Action etc

We already have those diginets here.
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Yeah, there are some diginets like Heartland, Retro, The Family Channel diginetworks that we already have here in this market and we don't need duplicates, but bring the new diginets on like the Rev'n, Karate Acton movies, different kind of music videos on the new station. :hatsoff2
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Yeah, there are some diginets like Heartland, Retro, The Family Channel diginetworks that we already have here in this market and we don't need duplicates, but bring the new diginets like Revn, Karate Acton movies, different kind of music videos on the new station. :hatsoff2

I watch MovieSphere Gold channel a lot. Many recent movies on that digitnet :)
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Yes that's a good channel MovieSphere, only thing is the missing CC on it. :rolleyes: :hatsoff2
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so... :)
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
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Green turkey enchilada casserole, ate one bowl, had pinto beans & taco meat side… Tea
Like this recipe with ground turkey & Herdez guacamole medium salsa…
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Pork shoulder, refried beans, cheddar and chopped green chile burrito with a pint of pale ale.

Its nice being able to have a pint with lunch during the week or whenever. I've been enjoying the retired life. 🍺

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Pork shoulder, refried beans, cheddar and chopped green chile burrito with a pint of pale ale.

Its nice being able to have a pint with lunch during the week or whenever. I've been enjoying the retired life. 🍺

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Congrats! I love retirement, no wake ups, no e-mails...
Leftovers for lunch, bacon wrapped salmon fillet from Saturday and a KFC thigh from Friday, Tea.
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Congrats! I love retirement, no wake ups, no e-mails...
Leftovers for lunch, bacon wrapped salmon fillet from Saturday and a KFC thigh from Friday, Tea.
I've been retired since October. It was very strange at first. But I'm loving it now.
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Creamy flat enchiladas with green chile, beans and rice.

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EchoStar has filed with FCC for license and launch of the EchoStar 25 satellite at the nominal 110W slot.

------"At the nominal 110° W.L. orbital location, EchoStar is licensed to operate over 29 of the available 32 DBS channels (specifically channels 1-27, 29,and 31).3 Currently, EchoStar provides service over these channels from the 110° W.L. cluster utilizing the EchoStar 10, EchoStar 11 (in inclined orbit), and EchoStar 23 satellites; and from the 119° W.L. cluster utilizing the EchoStar 14 and EchoStar 15 satellites. EchoStar anticipates that EchoStar 25 will be ready for launch as early as the first quarter of 2026. EchoStar anticipates that EchoStar 25, a spot-beam satellite, will take over delivery of certain programming services from EchoStar 10 and 14. After launch and in-orbit testing ("IOT"),4EchoStar 25 will proceed directly to 110.0° ± 0.05° W.L. Once EchoStar 25 is placed into operation, EchoStar 10 will initially remain at 110.2° W.L. serving as an in-orbit spare and may ultimately be relocated subject to all appropriate Commission authorizations. EchoStar 14 will remain at the nominal 119° W.L. orbital location and serve as an in-orbit spare once EchoStar 25 begins service." -----
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I can tell the new satellite is active... When I go to the point dish menu, here in Chicago, 110 TP 27, which is a Spotbeam, for me with the old satellite was in the signal strength 50's-60's, is now just fluttering between 16-18.
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When I go to the point dish menu, here in Chicago, 110 TP 27, which is a Spotbeam, for me with the old satellite was in the signal strength 50's-60's, is now just fluttering between 16-18.
Any chance you (or somebody else w/Chicago locals) could check & see where all the Chicago locals moved to, please...
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Actually, I can't seem to add the locals back to my account to check right now - when I go to add it and I submit the changes, it shows that I have added 1802 local channels (the whole country) and nothing happens. Something must be wrong with their website. :)
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Any chance you (or somebody else w/Chicago locals) could check & see where all the Chicago locals moved to, please...

Any chance you (or somebody else w/Chicago locals) could check & see where all the Chicago locals moved to, please...
I just happened to find out that I won White Sox tickets for tomorrow nights game June 10th. Yahoo! I just picked up my tickets around 8 P.M. local time and it is kind of late planning I know but I am leaving here in just a few and heading up to Peotone to stay the night tonight in a hotel and be there for tomorrow night as well. Its 9:21 P.M. Central Time now. I am hoping to beat the possible thunderstorms and fog early this morning up there and the weather there tomorrow as well. I oh so hope they play and no severe weather! Anyways, I just unhooked my Wally receiver and my DISH Playmaker and I am taking it with me. Peotone is in the Chicago Locals market and with me having a DISH Outdoors account I can change it when I get up there. I will have a check when I get there and I can post and let you know. I can put the antenna on top of the roof of the vehicle and run a 12 ft. coaxial cable running through the trunk into the vehicle. I have a DC to AC converter in the vehicle and can bring my Cloner Alliance ViewPRO to use as a the screen. I may even watch a little TV throughout the evening as well and maybe a little WGN as well. I miss WGN. I use to watch the Cubs, White Sox, and Bulls games on WGN and listen to the news and Tom Skilling a bunch. I hated it in December of 2014 when it became a standard cable network only. This will be only my 2nd time since they became a standard cable network and now defunct and rebranded as NewsNation that I actually get to see WGN again. The only other time was in 2016 up in Chicago as well and they were a standard cable network here then and not available locally. I now need to get going. I will let you know later.

RJ T.
From Illinois
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I just happened to find out that I won White Sox tickets for tomorrow nights game June 10th. Yahoo! I just picked up my tickets around 8 P.M. local time and it is kind of late planning I know but I am leaving here in just a few and heading up to Peotone to stay the night tonight in a hotel and be there for tomorrow night as well. Its 9:21 P.M. Central Time now. I am hoping to beat the possible thunderstorms and fog early this morning up there and the weather there tomorrow as well. I oh so hope they play and no severe weather! Anyways, I just unhooked my Wally receiver and my DISH Playmaker and I am taking it with me. Peotone is in the Chicago Locals market and with me having a DISH Outdoors account I can change it when I get up there. I will have a check when I get there and I can post and let you know. I can put the antenna on top of the roof of the vehicle and run a 12 ft. coaxial cable running through the trunk into the vehicle. I have a DC to AC converter in the vehicle and can bring my Cloner Alliance ViewPRO to use as a the screen. I may even watch a little TV throughout the evening as well and maybe a little WGN as well. I miss WGN. I use to watch the Cubs, White Sox, and Bulls games on WGN and listen to the news and Tom Skilling a bunch. I hated it in December of 2014 when it became a standard cable network only. This will be only my 2nd time since they became a standard cable network and now defunct and rebranded as NewsNation that I actually get to see WGN again. The only other time was in 2016 up in Chicago as well and they were a standard cable network here then and not available locally. I now need to get going. I will let you know later.

RJ T.
From Illinois
Update Wednesday June 10, 2026 @ 1:07 A.M. CDT.

Well I made it safely to Peotone, IL and got checked in. Sitting in the vehicle right now and everything is hooked up and ran and locals changed through the App.

I only have 2 words. "Very Interesting"

This is going to take awhile to post all of this and get all of this right so I am going to be looking up some info as I type.

Chicago has tons of channels! 18! To be exact all in HD.

So let's start.

002-00 WBBM (CBS) SAT: 110 SB: 12
Now playing: (Comics Unleashed With Byron Allen)

005-00 WMAQ (NBC) SAT: 110 SB: 12
Now playing: (NBC Nightly News With Tom Llamas)

007-00 WLS (ABC) SAT: 110 SB: 12
Now playing: (Live with Kelly and Mark)

009-00 WGN (CW) SAT: 110 SB: 12
Now playing: (The Goldbergs)

011-00 WTTW (PBS) SAT: 110 SB: 26
Now Playing: (Nature)

023-00 WWME (METV) SAT: 110 SB: 26
Now Playing: (Mannix)

026-00 WCIU (IND) SAT: 110 SB: 26
Shows The U - Now playing: (The Perfect Line)

Time change to 1:30 AM

032-00 WFLD (FOX) SAT: 110 SB: 12
Now Playing: (Sherri)

038-00 WCPX (ION) SAT: 110 SB: 26
Now Playing: (Chicago Fire)

044-00 WSNS (TELM) SAT: 110 SB: 26
Telemundo Channel speaking Spanish.
Now Playing: (Programa pagado)

048-00 WMEU (IND) SAT: 110 SB: 26
Now Playing: (Comedy Classics)

050-00 WPWR (IND) SAT: 110 SB: 26
Infomercial right now playing: (Ideal Prostrate+ Provides Safe)

056-00 WYIN (PBS). SAT: 110 SB: 26
Shows Lakeshore PBS - Now Playing: (Amanapour and Company)

059-00 WTVK (SHOP LC) SAT: 110 SB: 26
It is the Shop Liquidation Channel. All I get is a black background but was able to obtain satellite and spotbeam information - Shows playing in guide (which isn't) Spectacular Night Owl Jewelry Deals

060-00 WXFT (UNIMAS) SAT: 110 SB: 26
UNIMAS Channel speaking Spanish - Now Playing: (El Chavo)

061-00 WPVN (IND) SAT: 110 SB: 26
Shows WiN TV on the screen with Korean people and Korean Language - Now Playing: (WIN BNC)

062-00 WJXS (IND) SAT: 110 SB: 12
Shows wjys The Way - Now Playing; (Paid Proograming) but a church service is showing instead.


And finally…

And a time change to 2:00 AM

066-00 WGBO (UNIV) SAT: 110 SB: 26
Univision Channel speaking Spanish - Now Playing: (Programa pagado)

Now done!

Wow! About an hour's worth!

So it appears they changed as well to the 110 Satellite and using 2 Spotbeams 12 & 26.

Got to head up to my room and get some sleep. I will be here until late afternoon tomorrow before I head up to the game and will be back here after the game tommorow night and head back home Thursday morning.

Take care everyone and have a good night and a good Wednesday and Thursday. Probably won't be back on until Thursday.

RJ T.
From Illinois
zippyfrog
This is really interesting. Thanks for posting the Chicago locals - I still can't add them to my account for some reason.

But what I find even more interesting is that you are reporting that some of the Chicago locals are on 110, TP 12. However, right now some of the national sports channels for the out of market sports channels are on 110, TP 12 as well. MLB Network Alternate, for example, is currently on 110, TP 12. And to my knowledge, the same transponder cannot be both a national ConUS transponder as well as a local spotbeam. I wonder if having both satellites active at the same time is causing some coding issue or something like that - for my receiver, it is as if it is checking one satellite, times out, then checks the second satellite for the signal strength.
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This is really interesting. Thanks for posting the Chicago locals - I still can't add them to my account for some reason.

But what I find even more interesting is that you are reporting that some of the Chicago locals are on 110, TP 12. However, right now some of the national sports channels for the out of market sports channels are on 110, TP 12 as well. MLB Network Alternate, for example, is currently on 110, TP 12. And to my knowledge, the same transponder cannot be both a national ConUS transponder as well as a local spotbeam. I wonder if having both satellites active at the same time is causing some coding issue or something like that - for my receiver, it is as if it is checking one satellite, times out, then checks the second satellite for the signal strength.
No Problem! Glad I went and could help out but however I chickened out from the game tonight and I am back home. Didn't like the weather report I was seeing. Everyone in the hotel was talking about the severe storms. 75+ mph winds, golf ball size hail, and tornadoes done it in for me. You stay safe! I guess it isn't going to be very good and its suppose to hit between 3 and 6 PM. I gave away my tickets as I don't need damage to the vehicle plus with the weather like that not going and driving in Chicago that often it probably wouldn't be good driving when it is storming. I do think I made the wise choice.

I however am thinking about going somewhere over the weekend because this hot and humid air that were having will bring in relief after the cold front Thursday night and good weather is expected through the weekend. I don't know where I will head I am thinking State Park wise somewhere camping in a tent and brining my AC battery supply backup that works 36 hours on a single charge and can be charged in the vehicle and bringing the Wally, the antenna, and my Cloner Alliance ViewPro to use as a screen. Just to see what I can all get and to get away awhile. Where ever I go It will be out of market so I could get you their locals and Satellites and Spotbeams if you would like.

Just hoping we avoid the severe weather at my location tomorrow. It doesn't look good on that part but once it goes through excellent and more pleasant weather ahead.

And on what you said. Yes that could be an issue getting the locals activated that you are having problems with. 2 Transponders causing trouble one national and one spotbeam. Your receiver may not know how to handle it. Seems as if they likely will move those other sports channels to another satellite and/or spotbeam. More than likely the issue with my MLB Extra Innings as well. All these changes coming at once and they are trying to figure where to put everything and probably don't know where to put it all. I am sure it has the tech advanced people at DISH working overtime. Just wish they would hurry up and get it done.

Do you have an estimated date of completion by any chance?

RJ T.
From Illinois
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