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Last reply Jul 8, 2019 · posted in DIRECTV General Forum

AT&T Just Donated $500,000 to Locast

AT&T Just Donated $500,000 to Locast
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Tampa8

Jun 27, 2019

Thanks. It's long (like white papers tend to be) will read however when I can....

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NYDutch

Jun 27, 2019

Tampa8 said:
Thanks. It's long (like white papers tend to be) will read however when I can....

Bottom line is they can't find anything illegal in what SFCNY/Locast is doing...

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Juan

Jun 28, 2019

Once the local stations start losing revenue from cable and satellite companies they will...i.e. first time Charlie drops a local and adds locast on the internet connected hopper as a replacement the fun will begin

NYDutch said:
Bottom line is they can't find anything illegal in what SFCNY/Locast is doing...

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NYDutch

Jul 6, 2019

Juan said:
The tv stations for starters

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As I said, how would embedding Locast's locals be any different than embedding the direct OTA locals? If Locast is a legal translator, then it would be no different than you or I receiving the locals from any other translator or directly OTA. AT&T would not be retransmitting the locals, Locast would be.

Juan

Jul 6, 2019

No...no...no....cable and satellite cant do that

NYDutch said:
As I said, how would embedding Locast's locals be any different than embedding the direct OTA locals? If Locast is a legal translator, then it would be no different than you or I receiving the locals from any other translator or directly OTA. AT&T would not be retransmitting the locals, Locast would be.

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NYDutch

Jul 6, 2019

Juan said:
No...no...no....cable and satellite cant do that

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What are you talking about? Dish has the local OTA channels and some of the sub-channels embedded in the EPG where they can be recorded at will. DTV works the same way I believe (Is the AM21 OTA adapter still current?). My roof top a OTA antenna picks the locals up and my Hopper equipped with an OTA adapter sends them to my TV or records them. If the locals happen to be coming from a translator, then that's where I receive them from.

Juan

Jul 7, 2019

Thats not programming

NYDutch said:
What are you talking about? Dish has the local OTA channels and some of the sub-channels embedded in the EPG where they can be recorded at will. DTV works the same way I believe (Is the AM21 OTA adapter still current?). My roof top a OTA antenna picks the locals up and my Hopper equipped with an OTA adapter sends them to my TV or records them. If the locals happen to be coming from a translator, then that's where I receive them from.

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NYDutch

Jul 7, 2019

Juan said:
Thats not programming

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Are you saying there's no programming involved in integrating the OTA adapter's tuners or scanning the locals into the system and adding them to the EPG? Is it done with magic? I don't see where integrating Locast's API would be any different legally. It's still just adding code to receive the locals from a translator.

Juan

Jul 7, 2019

I am saying if Dish or anybody else reverse engineered locast apps and presented the streams as part of a product of dish network they would face a multbillion lawsuit for copyright infringement

NYDutch said:
Are you saying there's no programming involved in integrating the OTA adapter's tuners or scanning the locals into the system and adding them to the EPG? Is it done with magic? I don't see where integrating Locast's API would be any different legally. It's still just adding code to receive the locals from a translator.

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slice1900

Jul 7, 2019

Juan said:
I am saying if Dish or anybody else reverse engineered locast apps and presented the streams as part of a product of dish network they would face a multbillion lawsuit for copyright infringement

Locast is a non-profit, they can't sue anyone for billions over something they give away for free. They'd lose their non-profit status since they can't usefully spend even 1% of such an amount. Plus they don't own the copyright for the content, the only thing they own the copyright for is their app software. If you follow so-called "clean room" techniques in reverse engineering software, you are not liable for copyright infringement. Directv/Dish can look at the network traffic, write their own software to generate the same network traffic, and they are lawsuit proof.

Again though, it makes no sense for Locast to sue ANYONE doing this. They want people to use their service. They give it away for free, so they can't demonstrate ANY "loss" from someone accessing it via means other than their app. Your objections are pure nonsense, both legally and motive-wise.

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Juan

Jul 7, 2019

The tv stations and networks would do the suing....they own the copyrights...not locast...

slice1900 said:
Locast is a non-profit, they can't sue anyone for billions over something they give away for free. They'd lose their non-profit status since they can't usefully spend even 1% of such an amount. Plus they don't own the copyright for the content, the only thing they own the copyright for is their app software. If you follow so-called "clean room" techniques in reverse engineering software, you are not liable for copyright infringement. Directv/Dish can look at the network traffic, write their own software to generate the same network traffic, and they are lawsuit proof.

Again though, it makes no sense for Locast to sue ANYONE doing this. They want people to use their service. They give it away for free, so they can't demonstrate ANY "loss" from someone accessing it via means other than their app. Your objections are pure nonsense, both legally and motive-wise.

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NYDutch

Jul 7, 2019

Juan said:
The tv stations and networks would do the suing....they own the copyrights...not locast...

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Sue for what? Providing a receiver for the OTA signals that Locast is legally retransmitting? Have the stations and networks sued Vizio, Samsung, etc. for copyright violations?

And just as a point of information, the stations and networks typically only hold the copyrights to their own original programming, most commonly newscasts. Most program copyrights are held by the program production companies and distribution companies. The copyright to "Big Bang Theory" for instance, is held by Chuck Lorre Productions and Warner Bros., not CBS. Each copyright holder would have to file their own lawsuit, which isn't likely since they receive no portion of the retransmission fees and usually want their products seen by the widest possible audience anyway.

Juan

Jul 7, 2019

You cant pick up a OTA signal from an antenna and put it on a cable system without an agreement with the station...same concept applies to internet streams....putting up a 3rd party app during a programming dispute has yet to be tested in court..but if Dish or whoever only makes the 3rd party app only available to those who subscribe to locals....dish would be CHARGING for locast....if dish put it up for free..they would still be enriched...without paying the copyright to the station... thats a crime

NYDutch said:
Sue for what? Providing a receiver for the OTA signals that Locast is legally retransmitting? Have the stations and networks sued Vizio, Samsung, etc. for copyright violations?

And just as a point of information, the stations and networks typically only hold the copyrights to their own original programming, most commonly newscasts. Most program copyrights are held by the program production companies and distribution companies. The copyright to "Big Bang Theory" for instance, is held by Chuck Lorre Productions and Warner Bros., not CBS. Each copyright holder would have to file their own lawsuit, which isn't likely since they receive no portion of the retransmission fees and usually want their products seen by the widest possible audience anyway.

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NYDutch

Jul 7, 2019

Juan said:
You cant pick up a OTA signal from an antenna and put it on a cable system without an agreement with the station...same concept applies to internet streams....putting up a 3rd party app during a programming dispute has yet to be tested in court..but if Dish or whoever only makes the 3rd party app only available to those who subscribe to locals....dish would be CHARGING for locast....if dish put it up for free..they would still be enriched...without paying the copyright to the station... thats a crime

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But a non-profit CAN pick up OTA stations from an antenna and retransmit them without paying fees per 17 USC 111. Putting access to Locast on a satellite receiver or cable STB is NOT distributing the programming by wire or sat signal, just making a means of receiving it available to the subscribers at no charge. That's just as they already do with OTA broadcasts either direct from the originating tower or from an intermediate translator tower. Dish has made the Locast app available to all Hopper users at no charge, just as DTV has made it available to all at no charge, and Locast makes it available to all at no charge. Even embedding the app wouldn't change that. Dish does not care if you're a locals subscriber or not when it comes to using the app. With the increasing locals retrans fees, Dish would very much prefer that everyone switch to OTA locals by whatever means, and drop the sat locals. That's why they made the locals optional in the first place...

Juan

Jul 7, 2019

I guess you guys never heard of syndex and local blackout rules...the station pays the copyright fees to the programs they carry...meaning they control the rights to those programs...the stations then sell ads and collect subscriber fees....the internet is not OTA...just look up kodi and see what happened to them...to distribute an unauthorized stream is piracy...the stream is legal in the locast app..but to remove and then integrate into a stb is probably piracy..dish could give its customers rokus or firesticks during a dispute and suggest they use locast..but to replace a broadcast signal with a unauthorized stream during a dispute is piracy

Juan said:
You cant pick up a OTA signal from an antenna and put it on a cable system without an agreement with the station...same concept applies to internet streams....putting up a 3rd party app during a programming dispute has yet to be tested in court..but if Dish or whoever only makes the 3rd party app only available to those who subscribe to locals....dish would be CHARGING for locast....if dish put it up for free..they would still be enriched...without paying the copyright to the station... thats a crime

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Juan

Jul 7, 2019

You do know that internet is by wire I hope

NYDutch said:
But a non-profit CAN pick up OTA stations from an antenna and retransmit them without paying fees per 17 USC 111. Putting access to Locast on a satellite receiver or cable STB is NOT distributing the programming by wire or sat signal, just making a means of receiving it available to the subscribers at no charge. That's just as they already do with OTA broadcasts either direct from the originating tower or from an intermediate translator tower. Dish has made the Locast app available to all Hopper users at no charge, just as DTV has made it available to all at no charge, and Locast makes it available to all at no charge. Even embedding the app wouldn't change that. Dish does not care if you're a locals subscriber or not when it comes to using the app. With the increasing locals retrans fees, Dish would very much prefer that everyone switch to OTA locals by whatever means, and drop the sat locals. That's why they made the locals optional in the first place...

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slice1900

Jul 7, 2019

Juan said:
The tv stations and networks would do the suing....they own the copyrights...not locast...

Legally there's no difference between Directv putting Locast's app on the Genie or building the functionality into the Genie's software so the channels show up in the guide. Either what Locast is doing is legal or illegal, but copyright law only allows suing the infringer, which is Locast as they are the ones "rebroadcasting" the local affiliates.

Claude Greiner

Jul 7, 2019

Juan said:
Once the local stations start losing revenue from cable and satellite companies they will...i.e. first time Charlie drops a local and adds locast on the internet connected hopper as a replacement the fun will begin

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That only works if the customer has internet

NYDutch

Jul 7, 2019

Juan said:
You do know that internet is by wire I hope

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You do know the Internet is by wire, fiber, microwave, satellite, and wireless I hope.

NYDutch

Jul 7, 2019

Juan said:
I guess you guys never heard of syndex and local blackout rules...the station pays the copyright fees to the programs they carry...meaning they control the rights to those programs...the stations then sell ads and collect subscriber fees....the internet is not OTA...just look up kodi and see what happened to them...to distribute an unauthorized stream is piracy...the stream is legal in the locast app..but to remove and then integrate into a stb is probably piracy..dish could give its customers rokus or firesticks during a dispute and suggest they use locast..but to replace a broadcast signal with a unauthorized stream during a dispute is piracy

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You're going to grab at any straw you can think of, no matter how far fetched it is, aren't you...

Are you really saying that using Locast's streams outside of their app somehow makes their streams illegal? Really? That makes no sense at all. And of course so far we have no information that would lead us to think any service is planning to integrate Locast's streams into their STB beyond supporting the standalone app anyway. Would you be happier if they integrated Locast's streams using Locast's API as supplied by Locast? That's a likely scenario anyway, if they decide to go that route.

In case you don't know, Kodi is doing just fine, and is probably the most popular free streaming media player app in use today. Kodi does not distribute anything. Yes, there are add-ons available for Kodi that violate copyright laws, but those are not Kodi products and Kodi has no more responsibility for them than Amazon has for third-party apps used on the Firestick that violate copyrights. Kodi is a media tool, nothing more...

Juan

Jul 8, 2019

Legally there is a huge difference..locast doesn't own the streams

slice1900 said:
Legally there's no difference between Directv putting Locast's app on the Genie or building the functionality into the Genie's software so the channels show up in the guide. Either what Locast is doing is legal or illegal, but copyright law only allows suing the infringer, which is Locast as they are the ones "rebroadcasting" the local affiliates.

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cpdretired

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Last reply 21 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Offers

Several Dish offers showed up today in my account. Once you choose one the rest are removed. Offers were Showtime, Starz, AMC and others.

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bnewt

Sep 23, 2026

Just checked my account and it shows mgm+ at 8.00 per month, but that has red line drawn thru it and shows 0.00 per month. But it doesn't say how long this lasts,...... 1 month, 3 months, forever. I called customer service to get an answer, and they said nothing like that exists. Should I add the offer or not? Already paying them too much, but want to take advantage of something free.

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slow_poke_pete

Oct 8, 2026

i went into my acct on the hooper and to my offers and everything turned back up as if i was a new customer!!! has anyone tried looking on the my dish app via there hoppers lately.. there was a strange update yesterday affternoon my hopper has never done updates during the day.

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cpdretired

Oct 8, 2026

slow_poke_pete said:
i went into my acct on the hooper and to my offers and everything turned back up as if i was a new customer!!! has anyone tried looking on the my dish app via there hoppers lately.. there was a strange update yesterday affternoon my hopper has never done updates during the day.

Yes the offers are back again.

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bookworm370

Monday at 9:55 AM

cpdretired said:
Yes the offers are back again.

Where? I signed on to Dish and can't find any

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slow_poke_pete

Tuesday at 3:15 AM

bookworm370 said:
Where? I signed on to Dish and can't find any

what cpdretired said

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ewindowman

Tuesday at 3:09 PM

Lots of offers on the hopper account app . On the website there are only a few.

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Almighty1

Tuesday at 9:52 PM

ewindowman said:
Lots of offers on the hopper account app . On the website there are only a few.

Never had time to use the Hopper 3 account app yet. I also have a Hopper Plus so it's not the same as the Hopper 3 standalone. Will try it when I have more time, need to beat the taxes extension filing deadline first as I am still working on entering the data into the tax software.

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Almighty1

Wednesday at 6:49 AM

This is what I see when it comes to offers on My Account on the Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus and dish.com:

AMC+ 50% off for 3 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)
AMC+ Free for 3 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus and dish.com)
AMC+ 1 month free (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Cine y Entretenimie 50% off for 3 months

DOGTV 1 month free (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

DISH Movie Pack 50% off for 6 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus and dish.com)

DOGTV 50% off for 6 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)
DOGTV 1 month free (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Gallery First Month Free (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Heartland Pack 50% off for 6 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus and dish.com)

Mexico y Mas 50% off for 3 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

MGM+ $0.00/Month not saying how long (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Multi-Sport Pack 50% off for 6 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Netflix Standard with Ads, $7.99/month credit toward Netflix Standard with Ads ($.99) month with 24 month DISH commitment
(Only on My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Outdoor Pack 50% off for 6 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Paramount+ with SHOWTIME 50% off for three months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus and dish.com)
Paramount+ with SHOWTIME 2 months free (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Playboy TV 50% off for 6 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Republica Dominicana 50% off for 3 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

STARZ 50% off for 3 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)
STARZ $1.99/month for 2 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus and dish.com)

Sudamerica y Mas 50% off for 3 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

UP Faith & Family 1 month free (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

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slow_poke_pete

21 minutes ago

bnewt said:
Just checked my account and it shows mgm+ at 8.00 per month, but that has red line drawn thru it and shows 0.00 per month. But it doesn't say how long this lasts,...... 1 month, 3 months, forever. I called customer service to get an answer, and they said nothing like that exists. Should I add the offer or not? Already paying them too much, but want to take advantage of something free.

look again mine says free for 1 month

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jamieh1

Last reply 30 minutes ago · posted in DIRECTV Programming Forum

Directv curated multi view now live

The new curated multiview is now live.
While on many of the sports channels and non sports channels there is a multi view option button. It will pull up a side bar with many different multi view options.

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KyL416

Tuesday at 7:29 PM

It's now expanded to a Build Your Own Multiview, currently available to streaming customers with Geminis and Roku, and coming soon to Android TV, Fire TV, Vizio, LG, Apple TV and Tizen.

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b4pjoe

Tuesday at 7:30 PM

KyL416 said:
It's now expanded to a Build Your Own Multiview, currently available to streaming customers with Geminis and Roku, and coming soon to Android TV, Fire TV, Vizio, LG, Apple TV and Tizen.

But not on the only device they ship out right now which is the Gemini Air.

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TheRatPatrol

30 minutes ago

KyL416 said:
It's now expanded to a Build Your Own Multiview, currently available to streaming customers with Geminis and Roku, and coming soon to Android TV, Fire TV, Vizio, LG, Apple TV and Tizen.

How soon will it be available on Apple TV? Thanks

Ramy

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Last reply Yesterday at 10:54 PM · posted in The Sports Section

2026-27 NCAA College Football

Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.

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Yespage

Yesterday at 4:57 PM

24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:

All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
- Independent of record too! Bonus.
MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
I'm out of ideas.

Cons

Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
- Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
Going to start resting players?
- The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
- Resting players could make games dumb.
- Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!

AZ.

Yesterday at 5:30 PM

Yespage said:
24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:

All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff

Independent of record too! Bonus.

MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.

I'm out of ideas.

Cons

Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games

Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff

Going to start resting players?

The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!

Resting players could make games dumb.

Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.

How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!

One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.

Jimbo

Yesterday at 5:47 PM

AZ. said:
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.

There are 68 Power 4 teams, so eventually they will get there I wouldn't imagine ...

AZ.

Yesterday at 9:12 PM

Jimbo said:
There are 68 Power 4 teams, so eventually they will get there I wouldn't imagine ...

Far from it but you know that....You dont like the larger playoff.....Its ok.....

Jimbo

Yesterday at 9:24 PM

AZ. said:
Far from it but you know that....You dont like the larger playoff.....Its ok.....

Oh, I Hate the idea ...

It would be different if it was a game that you could play 2 or games each week, but when you only play 1 game a week, the larger playoff is Not a good thing ...

The season has how many games now, is it 14 ... then you want to play another 5 (with more to come) against Top 12 (eventually 24 teams) ... remember, the 5 games in the playoffs will be the hardest games all year and back to back.

For example, IF Ohio State should win it all this year ... they play 5 teams in the Top 25, plus they would play 5 more to win it all, depending on how the ranking shake out and if Bye weeks are given.

Thats 10 Ranked teams ... in one year ...
I don't see that happening very often ...
Edit, Bama plays 4, Georgia plays 3, But Ole Miss plays 5 (didn't expect to see that)

That said, I don't see the Buckeyes winning it all this year.

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AZ.

Yesterday at 9:27 PM

Jimbo said:
Oh, I Hate the idea ...

It would be different if it was a game that you could play 2 or games each week, but when you only play 1 game a week, the larger playoff is Not a good thing ...

The season has how many games now, is it 14 ... then you want to play another 5 (with more to come) against Top 12 (eventually 24 teams) ... remember, the 5 games in the playoffs will be the hardest games all year and back to back.

For example, IF Ohio State should win it all this year ... they play 5 teams in the Top 25, plus they would play 5 more to win it all, depending on how the ranking shake out and if Bye weeks are given.

Thats 10 Ranked teams ... in one year ...
I don't see that happening very often ...

That said, I don't see the Buckeyes winning it all this year.

Yes anyone here knows you 100%....Astros failed no posting...Ohio state loses we hear it.....Its ok....Its called an opinion....I have one so do you.....Problem is?

Jimbo

Yesterday at 10:07 PM

AZ. said:
Yes anyone here knows you 100%....Astros failed no posting...Ohio state loses we hear it.....Its ok....Its called an opinion....I have one so do you.....Problem is?

Seeing theres very little activity in the MLB threads, it wouldn't matter if I posted that the Astros didn't make the Playoffs ...

Theres more NFL info in the Pub section than in the Sports/NFL thread.

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Jimbo

Yesterday at 10:54 PM

IF they go to 24 teams, and it looks like they will soon ....
Do we Really want Teams with 3 and 4 losses in the Playoffs ?
Is a 3-4 Loss team one thats able to win 4-5 more games against Top teams ?

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Bobby

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Last reply Yesterday at 10:36 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

4K Events Discussion Thread

This thread is a place to discuss the 4K events that appear on channel 540. We are getting, at this point, one college football game a week. Let's hope there is more coming.

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long_time_Dish

Saturday at 6:31 PM

148-04 says the NASCAR race on at noon on Sunday. Be interesting to see if it is.

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Bobby

Tuesday at 8:48 PM

MLB, Brewers at Dodgers, Thursday 10-15, 6PM PDT, Channel 148-02.

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Foxbat

Yesterday at 6:24 PM

Bobby said:
MLB, Brewers at Dodgers, Thursday 10-15, 6PM PDT, Channel 148-02.

Bobby said:
CFB, Notre Dame at BYU, Saturday 10-27, 4:30PM PDT, Channel 148-03.

Bobby said:
CFB, Ohio State at Indiana, Saturday 10-17, 9AM PDT, Channel 148-01.
CFB, Arizona State at Texas Tech, Saturday 10-17, 12:30PM PDT, Channel 148-01.

Hmmm, I'm not seeing anything like those events in our Hopper 3 guide for tonight or Saturday.

I went into the Tools menu and requested a Guide Update. I'll try looking at it after the update completes.

edit — I now have the 148-01 4KFox events for Saturday, but not anything for 148-02 or 148-03 which don't even show as available channels. I do have 148-04 4KUSA.

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Bobby

Yesterday at 7:31 PM

Foxbat said:
Hmmm, I'm not seeing anything like those events in our Hopper 3 guide for tonight or Saturday.

I went into the Tools menu and requested a Guide Update. I'll try looking at it after the update completes.

edit — I now have the 148-01 4KFox events for Saturday, but not anything for 148-02 or 148-03 which don't even show as available channels. I do have 148-04 4KUSA.

As I recall you have the Flex package. Do you sub to multisport? -02 is FS1 and -03 is ESPN. -01 is Fox so you would get that if you sub to locals.

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Bobby

Yesterday at 8:01 PM

Bobby said:
As I recall you have the Flex package. Do you sub to multisport? -02 is FS1 and -03 is ESPN. -01 is Fox so you would get that if you sub to locals.

As an edit, you need to sub to the National Action Pack at $12 a month to receive those channels.

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Foxbat

Yesterday at 10:36 PM

Which is what is interesting, I see the 4KFox channel on 148-01 but we're not subscribed to our Locals. So why it's coming in is puzzling. I thought that maybe it was a perk for Dish subscribers for the MLB Postseason.

I set a Timer for the Indiana - Ohio State game on Saturday. I'll take advantage of it while I can.

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TWiT Tech Podcast Network

Yesterday at 9:52 PM · posted in TWiT Tech Podcast Network

8 U.S. States Sue OpenAI Over Safety Concerns With Younger Users

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!

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Last reply Yesterday at 9:27 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Newest NCIS recording doesn't allow auto skip

On Tuesday, I recorded the first episodes of the new season's NCIS shows on CBS (Dish provided, not OTA). The new New York series and Origins will both do Auto Skip, but the original, now season 24 does not. What's stranger, when I do a search for NCIS, Origins and New York show the current recording and the next episode it will record, but the original show only shows the current recording and some other channel showing the very first episode of season one. It makes no sense. When I set up the timers, I was able to use search for Origins and New York, but for the original, I had to scroll ahead in the guide until last Tuesday when the show was airing. Then set the timer from there. You can see its timer type is DVR where the other two are Seek. What am I missing?
Thanks!

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Nebugeater

Yesterday at 9:12 AM

It is obviose some people do not know the diffornece between auto skip and FF

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Jimbo

Yesterday at 9:45 AM

Nebugeater said:
It is obviose some people do not know the diffornece between auto skip and FF

IF you were referring to my post ...
Thats why I do all my Streaming Commercial FREE.

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Bobby

Yesterday at 11:22 AM

Nebugeater said:
It is obviose some people do not know the diffornece between auto skip and FF

And there is a difference between fast forward and skip forwad....

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tanman

Yesterday at 11:25 AM

With both CBS and Fox autohop (as we know) is not enabled for a week..But after 24 hours if you mash the FF button until the red kangaroo shows up in the bottom right you wont overshoot the program. No need to try to figure how long the break is.

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Cold Irons

Yesterday at 12:03 PM

tanman said:
With both CBS and Fox autohop (as we know) is not enabled for a week..But after 24 hours if you mash the FF button until the red kangaroo shows up in the bottom right you wont overshoot the program. No need to try to figure how long the break is.

Yep. We do this all the time, but we use the 30-sec skip forward button until the red kangaroo shows up. Love this feature.

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Jim5506

Yesterday at 9:27 PM

I'm a bit confused about the recording methods.
Do you havePrime Time Anytime enabled, by doing that you don't have to set recordings for Prime time programs on ABC, CBS, NBC or Fox stations, it's done daily, 7 days a week.
And only 2 weeks recordings are saved, no deletions either.

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"MysteryMan"

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Last reply Yesterday at 9:10 PM · posted in Computers and Gadgets

Windows 10/11 Download

I created this thread on the original Edgecutter Cutting Edge Forums site. It's simply a place for those to review the latest software available for those using Windows 10 and Windows 11. To date it has received 112,559 views. I have been asked by staff to continue this thread here.

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EarDemon

Tuesday at 9:43 PM

If it wasn't for what I want, I wouldn't need any of this.

Do I need a collection of handheld radios, scanners and speed enforcement countermeasures? Nope, but I want them. Very little, if any of the software used to interface with these devices is available on Linux.

WhiteBeard

Tuesday at 9:59 PM

EarDemon said:
If it wasn't for what I want, I wouldn't need any of this.

Do I need a collection of handheld radios, scanners and speed enforcement countermeasures? Nope, but I want them. Very little, if any of the software used to interface with these devices is available on Linux.

To each there own but I've found that Windows can't do much more than Linux can. Can't have everything.

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EarDemon

Wednesday at 10:12 PM

WhiteBeard said:
To each there own but I've found that Windows can't do much more than Linux can. Can't have everything.

For niche use cases, yes I agree. Kali for ethical hacking and security testing, and running a Cacti server for network monitoring are the two things I have experience in. Plus thousands and thousands of other things, but for every day use I just can't see it. The owner of the GMRS repeater that I pay to access is changing the Tx DPL tones tomorrow, while Chirp is available on Linux, the software to program my MXT500 is not.

I run Fedora and Ubuntu in VMWare, honestly I don't care much for the UI of either of them and I don't feel like spending days/weeks to customize the UI to make it look Windows-like when I could just use Windows. The cartoonish dock at the bottom of the screen reminds me of Apple products.

EarDemon

Yesterday at 10:07 AM

I have no OEM bloat, on CTO devices where I can access the drive, I order it with the smallest allowed drive and crack the device open throw the factory drive in the garbage and put in my own WD Black and install Windows from bootable media. For Windows bloat, I install Windows using the English - World option which limits preinstalled MS bloat.

Windows and Office features I wish to block, like CoPilot and Cortana, macro enabled Office files and others are blocked with GPOs.

Between keeping all software up to date, doing firmware updates, putting IoT devices on a separate VLAN, running Symantec Endpoint (say what you want about it, it's been good to me) and practicing safe hex, I'm vigilant but not paranoid about security.

With NVMe SSDs, my cold boot up time on all devices is under 30 secs as well. Fast boot disabled, BitLocker drive encryption enabled.

I have nothing against Linux, been paying with it on and off since 2004ish, it's just not the right solution for me.

HipKat

Yesterday at 10:32 AM

EarDemon said:
it's just not the right solution for me.

As I said above, and, FWIW, I run Win11 Pro and Arch on separate 250 GB NVME drives, using F8 to select which I boot to, with a 1TB SSD for storage, accessible to both OSs and a third formatted Nvme I want to use to learn Kali. It was much faster to setup Arch than it was to strip down Windows. Windows still takes much longer to boot.

harshness

Yesterday at 11:18 AM

EarDemon said:
I don't care much for the UI of either of them and I don't feel like spending days/weeks to customize the UI to make it look Windows-like when I could just use Windows.

What is so fantabulous about the Windows UI? By many accounts, it has been going downhill since Windows 7.

There are Linux desktops that offer Windows or Mac UIs, yet you don't hear much chatter about them outside of questions about when the creators might get sued.

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EarDemon

Yesterday at 8:55 PM

harshness said:
What is so fantabulous about the Windows UI?

Because it's what I prefer. I know I've said this a few times, I use Open Shell to give me the cascading start menu a la WIN 95 and NT4.0. The only reason I went from Windows Vista to 7 back in the day was because of Classic Shell. I cannot stand anything other than the OG start menu from 30+ years ago. I'm using ExplorerPatcher to give me Windows 10 UI elements of the taskbar and right click context menus.

If you could take a look at how I set up Windows 95, you'd find many similarities to how I use 11.

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EarDemon

Yesterday at 9:10 PM

I could probably use that as a starting point, but I don't like the full size icons. If you have to click on each folder that's also a no-go for me, it has to be cascading.

I used to have Peppermint Linux in a VM, that was about as close as I could get to recreating a Windows NT4.0 style of menu structure, but I could never get it to scale properly in VMWare on a 4K display and eventually gave up.

Whatever the boot up time it's fine with me. The longest part of my bootup is the HP SureStart BIOS integrity check. Once that is done, it's only a few more seconds. I haven't done this reg tweak yet since the reformat, but I switched the bootup animation to the Windows 10 style spinning circle of dots, and it's two and a half rotations. I can live with that.

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dfergie

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Last reply Yesterday at 9:00 PM · posted in TV Shows

NCIS: Origins

Hard getting used to the new younger Gibbs, Mark Harmons son had the right look but I understand he didn't want the role.
Still I'm enjoying, pretty good job with Franks.

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dfergie

Yesterday at 4:38 PM

Really good one with OG Gibbs bookending it...

reubenray

Yesterday at 4:48 PM

dfergie said:
Really good one with OG Gibbs bookending it...

Will the OG Gibbs be on NCIS or will Tony be on NCIS Origins?

dfergie

Yesterday at 6:06 PM

Tony was there at the end of the episode with Gibbs.

reubenray

Yesterday at 7:23 PM

dfergie said:
Tony was there at the end of the episode with Gibbs.

I saw Gibbs walk into the door, but I did not see Tony.

Jimbo

Yesterday at 8:41 PM

dfergie said:
Tony was there at the end of the episode with Gibbs.

Tony was Not in this episode ... you may remember Gibbs walking into the office and those around Welcomed him home, Voices only.

If you also watch the Mothership, Tony has been in that one ...

dfergie

Yesterday at 9:00 PM

Jimbo said:
Tony was Not in this episode ... you may remember Gibbs walking into the office and those around Welcomed him home, Voices only.

If you also watch the Mothership, Tony has been in that one ...

I must have seen that in previews
.

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