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Tampa8
Thanks. It's long (like white papers tend to be) will read however when I can....
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NYDutch
Thanks. It's long (like white papers tend to be) will read however when I can....
Bottom line is they can't find anything illegal in what SFCNY/Locast is doing...
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Juan
Once the local stations start losing revenue from cable and satellite companies they will...i.e. first time Charlie drops a local and adds locast on the internet connected hopper as a replacement the fun will begin
Bottom line is they can't find anything illegal in what SFCNY/Locast is doing...

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NYDutch
The tv stations for starters

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As I said, how would embedding Locast's locals be any different than embedding the direct OTA locals? If Locast is a legal translator, then it would be no different than you or I receiving the locals from any other translator or directly OTA. AT&T would not be retransmitting the locals, Locast would be.
Juan
No...no...no....cable and satellite cant do that
As I said, how would embedding Locast's locals be any different than embedding the direct OTA locals? If Locast is a legal translator, then it would be no different than you or I receiving the locals from any other translator or directly OTA. AT&T would not be retransmitting the locals, Locast would be.

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NYDutch
No...no...no....cable and satellite cant do that

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What are you talking about? Dish has the local OTA channels and some of the sub-channels embedded in the EPG where they can be recorded at will. DTV works the same way I believe (Is the AM21 OTA adapter still current?). My roof top a OTA antenna picks the locals up and my Hopper equipped with an OTA adapter sends them to my TV or records them. If the locals happen to be coming from a translator, then that's where I receive them from.
Juan
Thats not programming
What are you talking about? Dish has the local OTA channels and some of the sub-channels embedded in the EPG where they can be recorded at will. DTV works the same way I believe (Is the AM21 OTA adapter still current?). My roof top a OTA antenna picks the locals up and my Hopper equipped with an OTA adapter sends them to my TV or records them. If the locals happen to be coming from a translator, then that's where I receive them from.

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NYDutch
Thats not programming

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Are you saying there's no programming involved in integrating the OTA adapter's tuners or scanning the locals into the system and adding them to the EPG? Is it done with magic? I don't see where integrating Locast's API would be any different legally. It's still just adding code to receive the locals from a translator.
Juan
I am saying if Dish or anybody else reverse engineered locast apps and presented the streams as part of a product of dish network they would face a multbillion lawsuit for copyright infringement
Are you saying there's no programming involved in integrating the OTA adapter's tuners or scanning the locals into the system and adding them to the EPG? Is it done with magic? I don't see where integrating Locast's API would be any different legally. It's still just adding code to receive the locals from a translator.

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I am saying if Dish or anybody else reverse engineered locast apps and presented the streams as part of a product of dish network they would face a multbillion lawsuit for copyright infringement


Locast is a non-profit, they can't sue anyone for billions over something they give away for free. They'd lose their non-profit status since they can't usefully spend even 1% of such an amount. Plus they don't own the copyright for the content, the only thing they own the copyright for is their app software. If you follow so-called "clean room" techniques in reverse engineering software, you are not liable for copyright infringement. Directv/Dish can look at the network traffic, write their own software to generate the same network traffic, and they are lawsuit proof.

Again though, it makes no sense for Locast to sue ANYONE doing this. They want people to use their service. They give it away for free, so they can't demonstrate ANY "loss" from someone accessing it via means other than their app. Your objections are pure nonsense, both legally and motive-wise.
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Juan
The tv stations and networks would do the suing....they own the copyrights...not locast...
Locast is a non-profit, they can't sue anyone for billions over something they give away for free. They'd lose their non-profit status since they can't usefully spend even 1% of such an amount. Plus they don't own the copyright for the content, the only thing they own the copyright for is their app software. If you follow so-called "clean room" techniques in reverse engineering software, you are not liable for copyright infringement. Directv/Dish can look at the network traffic, write their own software to generate the same network traffic, and they are lawsuit proof.

Again though, it makes no sense for Locast to sue ANYONE doing this. They want people to use their service. They give it away for free, so they can't demonstrate ANY "loss" from someone accessing it via means other than their app. Your objections are pure nonsense, both legally and motive-wise.

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NYDutch
The tv stations and networks would do the suing....they own the copyrights...not locast...

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Sue for what? Providing a receiver for the OTA signals that Locast is legally retransmitting? Have the stations and networks sued Vizio, Samsung, etc. for copyright violations?

And just as a point of information, the stations and networks typically only hold the copyrights to their own original programming, most commonly newscasts. Most program copyrights are held by the program production companies and distribution companies. The copyright to "Big Bang Theory" for instance, is held by Chuck Lorre Productions and Warner Bros., not CBS. Each copyright holder would have to file their own lawsuit, which isn't likely since they receive no portion of the retransmission fees and usually want their products seen by the widest possible audience anyway.
Juan
You cant pick up a OTA signal from an antenna and put it on a cable system without an agreement with the station...same concept applies to internet streams....putting up a 3rd party app during a programming dispute has yet to be tested in court..but if Dish or whoever only makes the 3rd party app only available to those who subscribe to locals....dish would be CHARGING for locast....if dish put it up for free..they would still be enriched...without paying the copyright to the station... thats a crime
Sue for what? Providing a receiver for the OTA signals that Locast is legally retransmitting? Have the stations and networks sued Vizio, Samsung, etc. for copyright violations?

And just as a point of information, the stations and networks typically only hold the copyrights to their own original programming, most commonly newscasts. Most program copyrights are held by the program production companies and distribution companies. The copyright to "Big Bang Theory" for instance, is held by Chuck Lorre Productions and Warner Bros., not CBS. Each copyright holder would have to file their own lawsuit, which isn't likely since they receive no portion of the retransmission fees and usually want their products seen by the widest possible audience anyway.

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NYDutch
You cant pick up a OTA signal from an antenna and put it on a cable system without an agreement with the station...same concept applies to internet streams....putting up a 3rd party app during a programming dispute has yet to be tested in court..but if Dish or whoever only makes the 3rd party app only available to those who subscribe to locals....dish would be CHARGING for locast....if dish put it up for free..they would still be enriched...without paying the copyright to the station... thats a crime

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But a non-profit CAN pick up OTA stations from an antenna and retransmit them without paying fees per 17 USC 111. Putting access to Locast on a satellite receiver or cable STB is NOT distributing the programming by wire or sat signal, just making a means of receiving it available to the subscribers at no charge. That's just as they already do with OTA broadcasts either direct from the originating tower or from an intermediate translator tower. Dish has made the Locast app available to all Hopper users at no charge, just as DTV has made it available to all at no charge, and Locast makes it available to all at no charge. Even embedding the app wouldn't change that. Dish does not care if you're a locals subscriber or not when it comes to using the app. With the increasing locals retrans fees, Dish would very much prefer that everyone switch to OTA locals by whatever means, and drop the sat locals. That's why they made the locals optional in the first place...
Juan
I guess you guys never heard of syndex and local blackout rules...the station pays the copyright fees to the programs they carry...meaning they control the rights to those programs...the stations then sell ads and collect subscriber fees....the internet is not OTA...just look up kodi and see what happened to them...to distribute an unauthorized stream is piracy...the stream is legal in the locast app..but to remove and then integrate into a stb is probably piracy..dish could give its customers rokus or firesticks during a dispute and suggest they use locast..but to replace a broadcast signal with a unauthorized stream during a dispute is piracy
You cant pick up a OTA signal from an antenna and put it on a cable system without an agreement with the station...same concept applies to internet streams....putting up a 3rd party app during a programming dispute has yet to be tested in court..but if Dish or whoever only makes the 3rd party app only available to those who subscribe to locals....dish would be CHARGING for locast....if dish put it up for free..they would still be enriched...without paying the copyright to the station... thats a crime

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Juan
You do know that internet is by wire I hope
But a non-profit CAN pick up OTA stations from an antenna and retransmit them without paying fees per 17 USC 111. Putting access to Locast on a satellite receiver or cable STB is NOT distributing the programming by wire or sat signal, just making a means of receiving it available to the subscribers at no charge. That's just as they already do with OTA broadcasts either direct from the originating tower or from an intermediate translator tower. Dish has made the Locast app available to all Hopper users at no charge, just as DTV has made it available to all at no charge, and Locast makes it available to all at no charge. Even embedding the app wouldn't change that. Dish does not care if you're a locals subscriber or not when it comes to using the app. With the increasing locals retrans fees, Dish would very much prefer that everyone switch to OTA locals by whatever means, and drop the sat locals. That's why they made the locals optional in the first place...

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S
The tv stations and networks would do the suing....they own the copyrights...not locast...


Legally there's no difference between Directv putting Locast's app on the Genie or building the functionality into the Genie's software so the channels show up in the guide. Either what Locast is doing is legal or illegal, but copyright law only allows suing the infringer, which is Locast as they are the ones "rebroadcasting" the local affiliates.
Claude Greiner
Once the local stations start losing revenue from cable and satellite companies they will...i.e. first time Charlie drops a local and adds locast on the internet connected hopper as a replacement the fun will begin

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That only works if the customer has internet
NYDutch
You do know that internet is by wire I hope

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You do know the Internet is by wire, fiber, microwave, satellite, and wireless I hope.
NYDutch
I guess you guys never heard of syndex and local blackout rules...the station pays the copyright fees to the programs they carry...meaning they control the rights to those programs...the stations then sell ads and collect subscriber fees....the internet is not OTA...just look up kodi and see what happened to them...to distribute an unauthorized stream is piracy...the stream is legal in the locast app..but to remove and then integrate into a stb is probably piracy..dish could give its customers rokus or firesticks during a dispute and suggest they use locast..but to replace a broadcast signal with a unauthorized stream during a dispute is piracy

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You're going to grab at any straw you can think of, no matter how far fetched it is, aren't you...

Are you really saying that using Locast's streams outside of their app somehow makes their streams illegal? Really? That makes no sense at all. And of course so far we have no information that would lead us to think any service is planning to integrate Locast's streams into their STB beyond supporting the standalone app anyway. Would you be happier if they integrated Locast's streams using Locast's API as supplied by Locast? That's a likely scenario anyway, if they decide to go that route.

In case you don't know, Kodi is doing just fine, and is probably the most popular free streaming media player app in use today. Kodi does not distribute anything. Yes, there are add-ons available for Kodi that violate copyright laws, but those are not Kodi products and Kodi has no more responsibility for them than Amazon has for third-party apps used on the Firestick that violate copyrights. Kodi is a media tool, nothing more...
Juan
Legally there is a huge difference..locast doesn't own the streams
Legally there's no difference between Directv putting Locast's app on the Genie or building the functionality into the Genie's software so the channels show up in the guide. Either what Locast is doing is legal or illegal, but copyright law only allows suing the infringer, which is Locast as they are the ones "rebroadcasting" the local affiliates.

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zippyfrog
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Did anyone have a price increase today on their equipment? I own my VIP211k's, and they have been $5.00. My bill that I received last week shows the "add-ons" as being $5.00. However, I just logged into my Dish account, and my "add-ons" are now $10.00. Did the additional receivers go up by $5.00 recently?

As I mentioned, my last bill shows $5.00 and under the notes, nothing is mentioned about a price increase.
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zippyfrog
Never mind - according to chat, it seems like there is a glitch in their website. The prices for owned receivers are still $5.00.
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However, when I make a change (tried to add the Columbian pack for $2 so I could generate my bill) and there is a new line - it says "Access for TV" - whereas previously that line item was not there. I hope they aren't charging $5.00 for the initial TV now...

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Apparently it's not an "owned receiver" fee but rather an extension fee that's applied to 2nd and subsequent viewing. Maybe that played into their decision to force a box at every TV- garnering those fees
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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No Time - The Guess Who
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Time After Time - Cyndi Lauper
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Right on Time - Brandi Carlile
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Time Stand Still - Rush
Bobby
I Can't Help It (If I'm Still In Love With You) - B.J. Thomas
Scott Greczkowski
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Last reply · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center
Our DNS provider is encouraging us to enable DNSSEC on our domains for added security.

I have gone ahead and enabled it, and am told it may take anywhere from 90 minutes to 24 hours for it to take effect.

Hopefully doing this does not harm the site in any way. (It shouldn't) but if it does, you will then know why and I will revert the settings.

But from what I am reading it should be ok. so just giving a warning as I have screwed up DNS stuff in the past. :D
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Scott Greczkowski
Doing my checks it appears the changes have gone through... and we are still here. (Phew!)
Scott Greczkowski
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Last reply · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center
Due to security concerns and the fact that the Tapatalk Plugin for Xenforo is no longer being updated we have removed Tapatalk support from SatelliteGuys.

For those who were using it we recommend using our PWA App instead which is faster and does not have all the spam Tapatalk had. Below is a graphic showing how to add SatelliteGuys to your devices home screen. (While iOS is shown the process is mostly the same for Android.)

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Thanks for your understanding. :)
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Foxbat
Thank you, Scott, for adding years to my Life and dropping my BP a few millimeters! Money well spent…
dweber
Thank you, Scott, for adding years to my Life and dropping my BP a few millimeters! Money well spent…
What is PWA app? PWA utilities seem to be a Spanish app. I hope you are seeing this since nothing seems to be working. I will miss SatelliteGuys. Tapatalk worked well. The Siri browser doesn't seem to work well.
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Thank you, Scott, for adding years to my Life and dropping my BP a few millimeters! Money well spent…
Hooray!
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What is PWA app? PWA utilities seem to be a Spanish app. I hope you are seeing this since nothing seems to be working. I will miss SatelliteGuys. Tapatalk worked well. The Siri browser doesn't seem to work well.
Do you mean the safari browser?
Foxbat
What is PWA app? PWA utilities seem to be a Spanish app. I hope you are seeing this since nothing seems to be working. I will miss SatelliteGuys. Tapatalk worked well. The Siri browser doesn't seem to work well.
Actually, PWA stands for "Progressive Web Application" and is basically just saving a site's homepage to your desktop where it appears as an "App" with the rest of your smartphone's Apps.
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A PWA is a custom version of SatelliteGuys which is optimized for mobile devices. While it may look like the website, its actually different so that only the files needed for mobile are sent, meaning its a much faster experience all around.

TapaTalk is essentially dead. It was written for PHP 5.4 and we are now running PHP 8.4. There have been a LOT of PHP security updates since then and since Tapatalk for Xenforo has not been updated in a long long time it is not the safest idea to keep running it.

In addition those trying to view the site on their mobile devices using a browser were getting spammed on the top of the screen for people to install TapaTalk, this ad in some cases would take up 20% of the users screen. We could get rid of that ad but we would have to pay $20 a month to get rid of it.

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In addition TapaTalk could and was inserting their own ads on SatelliteGuys in the app which only benefitted them, SatelliteGuys was not paid for those ads they were displaying on our site. Again we could pay to get rid of those ads.

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And here was the cost of the Premium Tier.

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Now to make matters worse Tapatalk recently announced that they are going to start charging users of the app 99 cents a month to continue using it.

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So soon you would be paying them each month to access SatelliteGuys via their app, again all the money going to them... and you would still see all their ads too.

Tapatalk was a great program which we run for many many years, and for a long time we DID pay for the premium tier. But now with such a small offset using it (My numbers show a total of 6 members) it wasn't work paying for any longer.

In addition Tapatalk was sold to a different owner who made lots of promises of improvements and updates but then that owner has been really radio silent since, instead they have been letting TapaTalk rot on the vine.

If you visit their support forum at https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/tapatalksupport/ you will see there is not much going on, in fact most of the support questions posted there go unanswered.

Please give the PWA a try, I was a die hard Tapatalk user myself but now only use the PWA on devices. It is a much better all around experience, with no bloatware or additional ads based on your user membership level.

I don't have an android phone so I could not make a graphic showing you how to add SatelliteGuys PWA to your phones apps or home screen. But here is a site that explains how to do it on all kinds of devices. How to Install a PWA on iOS, Android, Windows & Mac [2025 Guide]

The above link also explains PWA's better as well. :)

If Tapatalk were to update their plugins so we know we are more secure and up to date and allow us to remove the "Smart Banner" without having to pay $20 a month, we would consider adding it back. I don't even care about their ads, as if a user wants to use their app and is willing to sit through their ads in order to use that app then I am ok with it.

But hopefully that explains better why it was removed. It was not done to cut anyone off from the site. :) Please give the PWA a try.
NYDutch
A PWA is a custom version of SatelliteGuys which is optimized for mobile devices. While it may look like the website, its actually different so that only the files needed for mobile are sent, meaning its a much faster experience all around.

TapaTalk is essentially dead. It was written for PHP 5.4 and we are now running PHP 8.4. There have been a LOT of PHP security updates since then and since Tapatalk for Xenforo has not been updated in a long long time it is not the safest idea to keep running it.

In addition those trying to view the site on their mobile devices using a browser were getting spammed on the top of the screen for people to install TapaTalk, this ad in some cases would take up 20% of the users screen. We could get rid of that ad but we would have to pay $20 a month to get rid of it.

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In addition TapaTalk could and was inserting their own ads on SatelliteGuys in the app which only benefitted them, SatelliteGuys was not paid for those ads they were displaying on our site. Again we could pay to get rid of those ads.

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And here was the cost of the Premium Tier.

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Now to make matters worse Tapatalk recently announced that they are going to start charging users of the app 99 cents a month to continue using it.

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So soon you would be paying them each month to access SatelliteGuys via their app, again all the money going to them... and you would still see all their ads too.

Tapatalk was a great program which we run for many many years, and for a long time we DID pay for the premium tier. But now with such a small offset using it (My numbers show a total of 6 members) it wasn't work paying for any longer.

In addition Tapatalk was sold to a different owner who made lots of promises of improvements and updates but then that owner has been really radio silent since, instead they have been letting TapaTalk rot on the vine.

If you visit their support forum at https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/tapatalksupport/ you will see there is not much going on, in fact most of the support questions posted there go unanswered.

Please give the PWA a try, I was a die hard Tapatalk user myself but now only use the PWA on devices. It is a much better all around experience, with no bloatware or additional ads based on your user membership level.

I don't have an android phone so I could not make a graphic showing you how to add SatelliteGuys PWA to your phones apps or home screen. But here is a site that explains how to do it on all kinds of devices. How to Install a PWA on iOS, Android, Windows & Mac [2025 Guide]

The above link also explains PWA's better as well. :)

If Tapatalk were to update their plugins so we know we are more secure and up to date and allow us to remove the "Smart Banner" without having to pay $20 a month, we would consider adding it back. I don't even care about their ads, as if a user wants to use their app and is willing to sit through their ads in order to use that app then I am ok with it.

But hopefully that explains better why it was removed. It was not done to cut anyone off from the site. :) Please give the PWA a try.
I just installed the PWA on my Android phone. It was pretty easy to do, and now I'm posting this from my phone. Thanks, Scott!
Scott Greczkowski
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Last reply · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center
As you may have noticed we are doing a Fund Raiser for SatelliteGuys!

As many of you know I have been paying for a majority of the operation of the site out of my own pocket for awhile now. Now looking at things we have a number of renewals coming up that I could use some help with. These renewals include the license renewal for our Forum Software, Renewal of a number of our add on's the site uses, renewal of domain names etc.

I have set a goal of $400.00 - any extra that comes in will just go to fund the operations of the site. None of the money will go to me (I tried BuyMeACoffee a few months ago, and they denied me saying they do not do business with Satellite Piracy sites... which we are not... hell we host the beta programs for both DISH and DIRECTV here...)

Anyways... if you would like to help out please click the link below.


Thank you in advance. :)
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Scott Greczkowski
I planned on removing it today, but then my fathers car broke down and I had to drive him all around to get his stuff done. Then I had a doctors appointment after that which was annoying...

Dr asks me if I have had any changes, so I tell him something wrong with me that started a month or so ago and his reply back is, that it sucks to get old... I hate that. Why ask me. if your going to come back with a smart ass answer.

Anyays I hope to get rid of Tapatalk tomorrow. :)

And we had more people donate today, thank you! The extra money is going to future expenses since things like add ons don't expire at the same time.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU AGAIN!
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Yeah, dr's...joint pain? Your joints are wearing out. It hurts when I do this...don't do that
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Dr asks me if I have had any changes, so I tell him something wrong with me that started a month or so ago and his reply back is, that it sucks to get old

No excuse for a flippant response like that from a doctor! I'd be looking for a different one.
Scott Greczkowski
Tapatalk has been removed.

I have added a new feature which is a work in progress called "Social Feed" which displays the forums Facebook style. Its nice for people who like that, but needs work. But i have been watching this one for awhile and the author is being really responsive to suggestions and adding them. So if you have any please let me know and I can pass them along. :)
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We got more kind donations yesterday! Again a very big thank you to everyone for your support!
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Awesome pictures, Yespage! Thanks!

I caught the end of the four hour race on YouTube so I wasn't "spoiled", but got to see the exciting last lap action in the TCR division!
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Awesome pictures, Yespage! Thanks!

I caught the end of the four hour race on YouTube so I wasn't "spoiled", but got to see the exciting last lap action in the TCR division!
I heard on the radio, after the final pitstop, Turner Motorsport were resigned to second place. 'You're in second. Don't worry about it. First is McLaren, we aren't catching them.'
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Caught up to the 500... err... k in St. Louis. What a race! Andretti Motorsport were doing very well with Ericsson and Kirkwood, meanwhile Power was moving up the grid. Veekay started cautiously. He was working the tires just right, becoming more lethal later in the stint. Rasmussen was racing likewise, not nearly as insane as he has in the past. Palou was leading the race, in a shocker to all. Caio Collet was having a wonderful ride, making Ferucci potentially sweat a bit. Rain came, rain went, rain came, rain went. Generally mild sprinkles, but enough to pause racing on an oval.

Palou would kind of send Siegel into the wall. Siegel really didn't do much wrong. As he noted, you have to turn at some point. Palou had acres of room below and Siegel might have had his ticket out of Indycar stamped. Dixon was doing the fuel thing and got busted twice by yellows, not pitting before the flag came out. Then the most critical happened... Palou ran out of gas on pit lane, effectively giving Newgarden the race lead and win. Newgarden had a very early pit, so he was able to slide in, get service and go. Meanwhile, everyone else was confused and stuck behind Palou for a bit. Once people figured what was happening, Newgarden had a major advantage of several seconds. Newgarden wouldn't look back and when it went green again, he'd hold the lead for the win.

Massive credit to Juncos Hollinger who bested Penske in getting Veekay out before Malukas in a transition that was oddly bizarre. I haven't had time to check, but I'm wondering if Veekay was about to run out of fuel or cut a tire. He was charging late in a stint, got up to fifth, and then tailed back for a few laps to 10th or 11th. It looked like it was over. Went into the pits, and after the pitting sequence was over, Veekay was well inside the top ten again. It was weird. And he charged, getting up to fourth. He made a late move on Rasmussen, but Rasmussen held his position with some great driving. In fact, there was a ton of incredible racing passing, not passing all race long. Veekay would finish 4th. A podium would have been awesome, but it is a great outcome for a guy who hopefully will get a break with a big team. We saw what Veekay could do with a Honda last season with fuel save, imagine replacing Simpson on Ganassi and having speed to go with fuel saving. His 6th at Indy and 4th at St. Louis get him up to 13th in the points standings and only 5 points outside of the top 10.

Ericsson finished second, resigned to finishing behind the current best in the world guy on a short oval. Rasmussen got the final step on the podium, a nice rebound to what has been an otherwise bad year for him, and a good reward to ECR who just extended his contract.
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They raced USAC cars at Daytona once. Once! People died. Aj Foyt said 'f this', and left after the first go around. AJ freaking Foyt thought it was crazy! And cars weren't nearly as fast as they are now.

I think they tried Talladega once too.
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LeMans qualifying on going. WEC has d9ne a great job expanding the automotive company entries. Even without Porsche, a large nunber of manufacturers.
Peter Parker
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I have had good experiences with Brave but lately I am frustrated with it.

Now when I launch the app it shows a box at the bottom asking if I want to go back to the last opened page. It is in conveniently located and I would prefer to eliminate it.

Does anyone know how to do this?

Please let's not sidetrack the discussion into an exploration of why I don't care for it or a lecture about all the wonderful aspects of the feature. I just do not care for it.
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b4pjoe
I don't have an Android phone so I don't know if this will apply to the Brave settings on your android device but it works on the desktop for me.

Change this setting to either startup to a different website or a new tab page. I have mine set to open to google.com instead of where I left off and it doesn't ask me at the next startup if I want to open the last opened page unless it crashed.

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Peter Parker
I don't have an Android phone so I don't know if this will apply to the Brave settings on your android device but it works on the desktop for me.

Change this setting to either startup to a different website or a new tab page. I have mine set to open to google.com instead of where I left off and it doesn't ask me at the next startup if I want to open the last opened page unless it crashed.

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Thank you for trying to help. However thrse choices do not appear in Android. There is a setting for "New Tab Pages" that is similar but does not include your choice. I have tried all of the existing entries with no success
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Juan
Something like this maybe


Option 2: Set a custom Home button URL
  1. Click the menu icon in the top-right corner and select Settings.
  2. Click on Appearance in the left sidebar.
  3. Toggle on the Show home button switch.
  4. Under the home button settings, select the option to Enter custom web address and type in your preferred website. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
BlackHitachi
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Last reply · posted in Movie Talk
Since the Reds have there thread we should too!

Last watched Nine inch Nails
Next 3:10 to Yuma
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osu1991
Rooster Cogburn.

Keep forgetting the free movies on youtube are ad free with my premium subscription.
dfergie
Rooster Cogburn.

Keep forgetting the free movies on youtube are ad free with my premium subscription.
There are some really good movies on youtube.
Saving Private Ryan 4k, Dolby Atmos...
harshness
Saving Private Ryan 4k, Dolby Atmos...
These are severely limited. Getting better than stereo audio is improving, but still has a long way to go.
dfergie
These are severely limited. Getting better than stereo audio is improving, but still has a long way to go.
I went with my 4k disc after checking out that version.
osu1991

View: https://youtu.be/I68627xyDPA?is=gUZB0Yv_08pE0DR3


Tonight revisiting one of my favorites. Ranks up there with Star Wars, Raiders of the Lost Ark and Hunt For Red October.
dfergie
Watching Monterey Pop, been awhile, had the DVD, but probably lost in the fire 10.5 years ago. HBOmax
"MysteryMan"
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