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My Hopper 3 is in a well ventilated place in my TV stand. Open to outside airflow, etc...

It is one of the original H3's and has never needed a replacement. The top is so hot I can barely keep my hand on it. Both of the fans on the sides (the little ones) do work.

Did later units run cooler? I am concerned that given it's age, it might have a problem sooner rather than later and since it is the hub of all the TV in the home, that worries me.

Thoughts?
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Cheddar_Head
Couple of suggestions, buy a can of compressed and blow out the dust with it. Purchase a laptop cooling pad and put in under your hopper to make sure plenty of air is available, just make sure you can disable all the fancy lights.

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dish network thieves
I've had a Hopper 2 since 2013 and in the summer it's so hot in places you can't keep your hand on it more than a couple of seconds. It's still "working" after this long, so I stopped worrying about it.
DISH Support
I've had a Hopper 2 since 2013 and in the summer it's so hot in places you can't keep your hand on it more than a couple of seconds. It's still "working" after this long, so I stopped worrying about it.

Hey MR_X, although our receivers are normally a bit warm, it shouldn't be hot to the touch. IF your receiver is hot it can indicate it isn't receiving a good airflow which can lead to hard drive issues. If you aren't seeing any error messages, here's a few things to check for:
The receiver has at least 5 inches of space on all sides between itself and other items.
The receiver isn't directly on or underneath another electronic device.
The receiver is on a flat, hard surface.
The receiver isn't in an enclosed area such as a drawer or cabinet.

-Rosita L.
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Hey MR_X, although our receivers are normally a bit warm, it shouldn't be hot to the touch. IF your receiver is hot it can indicate it isn't receiving a good airflow which can lead to hard drive issues. If you aren't seeing any error messages, here's a few things to check for:
The receiver has at least 5 inches of space on all sides between itself and other items.
The receiver isn't directly on or underneath another electronic device.
The receiver is on a flat, hard surface.
The receiver isn't in an enclosed area such as a drawer or cabinet.

-Rosita L.

It's funny you'd respond to me, since the HDMI output on my receiver went out at some point last night. It doesn't work with any other TV inputs or cables on the TV it's currently connected to and doesn't work on any other TV either. The output is completely dead. I'm having to use component cables now.

The receiver is on a wide open glass shelf. It's completely open on the front and both sides with most of the back of the shelf completely open as well. Nothing airflow related is causing the issue. I just took a temperature of the right side and it's around 105 degrees compared to upper 80's on the left side.
DISH Support
It's funny you'd respond to me, since the HDMI output on my receiver went out at some point last night. It doesn't work with any other TV inputs or cables on the TV it's currently connected to and doesn't work on any other TV either. The output is completely dead. I'm having to use component cables now.

The receiver is on a wide open glass shelf. It's completely open on the front and both sides with most of the back of the shelf completely open as well. Nothing airflow related is causing the issue. I just took a temperature of the right side and it's around 105 degrees compared to upper 80's on the left side.

Receivers can run fairly hot without having any performance issues. If the receiver surpasses the normal operating temperature, the receiver will experience issues like rebooting or pixelation, or a pop-up message will appear on the screen indicating it has surpassed the temperature it needs to be. Additionally, if the HDMI output is no longer working, and not displaying any type of videos, we would have to look into a replacement. We're not able to make changes through Satellite Guys at this time, but you can reach out to our Chat teams by clicking this link: Direct Chat. We have agents ready to assist with any account changes.

-Christina W.
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Receivers can run fairly hot without having any performance issues. If the receiver surpasses the normal operating temperature, the receiver will experience issues like rebooting or pixelation, or a pop-up message will appear on the screen indicating it has surpassed the temperature it needs to be. Additionally, if the HDMI output is no longer working, and not displaying any type of videos, we would have to look into a replacement. We're not able to make changes through Satellite Guys at this time, but you can reach out to our Chat teams by clicking this link: Direct Chat. We have agents ready to assist with any account changes.

-Christina W.

Thanks for your help, but unless I can have a new receiver shipped to me and install it myself, I won't allow anyone from Dish to step foot in my house ever again. The installer was rude, incompetent, and very unprofessional. He caused damaged to the siding of my home, I had to buy/replace a coax cable he left hanging and exposed which animals later chewed through, had to dig/bury the cable from one of the dishes to the house, and had to listen to the guy whine and complain the majority of the time he was at my house. He left without having my broadband working properly where I had to figure out how to fix it myself.

I could type multiple paragraphs about all of the things this guy did or didn't do and couldn't answer any questions about using the Hopper because "he doesn't watch TV". Or how the guy dropped the Hopper and box on a coffee table from a standing position and almost broke it.

Unless Dish gets their act together and stops taking away channels and not lowering my bill, I'll be cancelling service and shipping the equipment back. I don't even have decent cellular service where I live to endure the 1+ hour wait to talk to anyone about lowering my bill, nor do I have good enough internet to use their chat to discuss it because it's down the majority of the time.

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^ that's with perfect weather right now and no trees whatsoever in the line of the dish.
JSheridan
Thanks for your help, but unless I can have a new receiver shipped to me and install it myself, I won't allow anyone from Dish to step foot in my house ever again. The installer was rude, incompetent, and very unprofessional. He caused damaged to the siding of my home, I had to buy/replace a coax cable he left hanging and exposed which animals later chewed through, had to dig/bury the cable from one of the dishes to the house, and had to listen to the guy whine and complain the majority of the time he was at my house. He left without having my broadband working properly where I had to figure out how to fix it myself.

I could type multiple paragraphs about all of the things this guy did or didn't do and couldn't answer any questions about using the Hopper because "he doesn't watch TV". Or how the guy dropped the Hopper and box on a coffee table from a standing position and almost broke it.

Unless Dish gets their act together and stops taking away channels and not lowering my bill, I'll be cancelling service and shipping the equipment back. I don't even have decent cellular service where I live to endure the 1+ hour wait to talk to anyone about lowering my bill, nor do I have good enough internet to use their chat to discuss it because it's down the majority of the time.

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^ that's with perfect weather right now and no trees whatsoever in the line of the dish.

That graph looks like it's from internet service which has nothing to do with TV service.
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That graph looks like it's from internet service which has nothing to do with TV service.
I didn't say it had anything to do with the TV service. The last line of my rant was about my inability to reliably use the chat function to discuss my issues with a representative because of the garbage internet they installed.

I find this incredibly shocking and aggravating. Why companies continue to employ guys like this, I'll never understand. And we have some in our office who may not be this bad, but aren't cut out for this job. I'm so sorry that you had such a bad experience

No reason for you to be sorry about any of it. I don't expect anything to ever be fixed with my service and I'm not gonna bother with it at this point. I'm just ranting and explaining why I'm so against Dish from my own experience with them.
JSheridan
I didn't say it had anything to do with the TV service. The last line of my rant was about my inability to reliably use the chat function to discuss my issues with a representative because of the garbage internet they installed. ...

Then just cancel! Nobody is forcing you to continue with DISH or the internet that DISH may have installed but isn't from DISH. The internet service is either from Hughesnet or Viasat and if you don't like that you should cancel that too.
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Then just cancel! Nobody is forcing you to continue with DISH or the internet that DISH may have installed but isn't from DISH. The internet service is either from Hughesnet or Viasat and if you don't like that you should cancel that too.

Oh, I didn't realize that...
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Couple of suggestions, buy a can of compressed and blow out the dust with it. Purchase a laptop cooling pad and put in under your hopper to make sure plenty of air is available, just make sure you can disable all the fancy lights.

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I bought a laptop cooling fan and it worked beautifully......, for about three weeks. Then the Hopper 3 started re-booting itself again. I've had this problem since Feburary. Dish has replaced three boxes and sent two technicians out. The problem persists.
Jim5506
Better cooling luck will probably be had by using a 3-5 inch 120volt axial cooling fan.

I have used the same PQfan from Home Theater Cooling for about 12 years now from my VIP622 to my present Hopper3 with no cooling problems. The PQfan is no longer available but a similar fan (5 inch diameter, 29DBA, 120V, 50cfm) should work fine.

I have it pulling warm air out of the right side of my H3 so the intake air is distributed from every possible case opening instead of being blown in at one spot.
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I bought a laptop cooling fan and it worked beautifully......, for about three weeks. Then the Hopper 3 started re-booting itself again. I've had this problem since Feburary. Dish has replaced three boxes and sent two technicians out. The problem persists.
Yes, I use them on our H3's and TiVo Roamios (basic). The Roamio (basic) is notorious for having a very poor fan and airflow.

I would say that in my experience the key is airflow from the BOTTOM. In the past just placing casters under each of the four feet of a Dish DVR box lifting it some 1/2" or so can do WONDERS without a laptop fan. However, if casters are not enough to take the heat off, then laptop fans are an economical solution: they work even better WONDERS.

Glad you got the solution. And be aware that even a few degrees of heat in a room during the summer can make a DVR like the Hopper or TiVo Roamio (basic) get very HOT.
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Staff member Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum
The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
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National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
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Additional tabs provide:​
OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
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Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8​

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
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660 CAVLIERS, 668 TWOLVES and 680 SPURS are now available
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WPLG Miami is testing on the stream server again

EDIT: It's now available for streaming customers
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660 CAVLIERS, 668 TWOLVES and 680 SPURS are now available
Still with Choice package? My stepdad says when the game started he got black screen and something to do with not the right package.
He had the Twins the last 2 years and I saw the Wild screen on 668-1 when I was there a few weeks ago.
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There were some technical issues during the pregame, where 668 was showing the Pacers feed instead of the Timberwolves feed until a few minutes before the game.

On the stream API it looks like some areas need the Sports Pack, what's his zip code?
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The BLUES, BLUJCKTS, HURCANES and WILD channels are now active and no longer pointing to the TV Promise slate
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For those dazn nba channels are they sat only or sat & streaming
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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I Wish - Stevie Wonder
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Lonesome Road -- The Wonder Who?
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Lonesome Loser - Little River Band
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Long LONESOME Highway-Michael Parks
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Highway To Hell - AC/DC
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I know HipKat said that they were working on conversions but we got the official news yesterday right from Dish that starting next month all DMA's will be on the western arc, and all customers will be assigned to that. That's gonna mean a lot of customers around here aren't gonna get Dish unless there are exceptions. Too many mountains and trees.
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Unless Dish acquires DirecTV and its mid-USA satellite slots, I may not have Dish Network to reach 40 years. Or, I guess we could buy a new house…
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Unless Dish acquires DirecTV and its mid-USA satellite slots, I may not have Dish Network to reach 40 years. Or, I guess we could buy a new house…
have charlie buy you a new house :biggrin :clapping
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Well, I didn't immediately think of broadcast, where there are all kinds of digital "subchannels"- I remember back when digital broadcast began that supposedly the 6mhz channel would likely support just 1 HD program and that the added subchannels would likely have to remain SD. I don't watch enough broadcast to know. Are there a lot of the subchannels in SD-only, and how do they do that, like are they in 4:3 or some kind of low-res widescreen?
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have charlie buy you a new house :biggrin :clapping
Unfortunately, I don't think my social proximity to Charle Ergen provides any special perks. Maybe if Foxbat, Jr. were to marry his daughter…🤞🏻🤣
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Unfortunately, I don't think my social proximity to Charle Ergen provides any special perks. Maybe if Foxbat, Jr. were to marry his daughter…🤞🏻🤣
that would be one hell of a convo :biggrin.
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Well, I didn't immediately think of broadcast, where there are all kinds of digital "subchannels"- I remember back when digital broadcast began that supposedly the 6mhz channel would likely support just 1 HD program and that the added subchannels would likely have to remain SD. I don't watch enough broadcast to know. Are there a lot of the subchannels in SD-only, and how do they do that, like are they in 4:3 or some kind of low-res widescreen?
New more efficient encoders. I think there's around 60 channels/sub channels now in the Tulsa dma. 480 widescreen for most of the sub channels, but some have 2 HD channels and a couple of SD sub channels while others have 1 HD and 5 or more SD sub channels. If they moved to mp4 or hevc encoding they could do higher bitrates for SD or more HD or even 4K in that 6Mhz channel. That could render some early digital tvs unable to tune though as they may not have the codecs for that. Considering 4K tvs have been on sale for years, I think it would be a very small minority of TVs with the problem. I'd rather see that happen and keep ATSC 1 than continue the move to a DRM enforced ATSC 3 world.
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The title was to catch everyone's eye lol! But it is a thought I've been having as I dev a Roku app for a client. You see many MAAANY years ago I got really interested in cable TV channels and even chatted with a regional carrier, Insight about what it took to get a channel number. It was surprisingly easy although prohibitively expensive.



You could petition, reserve a high channel number, they monitored performance and if they liked you, you'd get lower channel number overtime and cut into ad overlays.



Roku has a similar setup. Make an app, if it has a strong, original linear component you could get channel assignment on The Roku Channel.



As mixed as my feelings are on the current media landscape, I can't help but feel a little excited interest when I scope out the apps in the Roku store.
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navychop
Hmmm. I think Roku will last. But will Firestick? With their backing, I guess so. Apple TV STB? Of Course. Walmart? Seems someone ought to go, but with their backing?….

Off brands have, as probably expected, very short lives.
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Hmmm. I think Roku will last. But will Firestick? With their backing, I guess so. Apple TV STB? Of Course. Walmart? Seems someone ought to go, but with their backing?….

Off brands have, as probably expected, very short lives.
All of those services have FAST Channels. FAST is a linear online broadcast stndrd. You notice how their linear channels all have some overlap? They are gettting paid for every second those streams are up without really having to do their own accounting. Best part is they don't even facilitate any of the stream bandwidth. Over glorified app stores on some android hardware. No reason NOT to stay in the game.
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Season 2 order already in hand:

'Star Trek: Starfleet Academy' Renewed for Season 2, Tatiana Maslany to Guest Star in Season 1

I've not been optimistic about this show based on what I've read so far. Seems to be aimed at a younger audience. Interesting though that Tatiana Maslany will have some sort of role.
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Females wearing any clothing is unthinkable on Ferenginar.
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Females wearing any clothing is unthinkable on Ferenginar.
Was never a huge of the Ferengi-centric episodes in Trek...
Jimbo
Was never a huge of the Ferengi-centric episodes in Trek...
Me either ...
They turned out to be a Poor adversary ....
Foxbat
They got their proper due on "Deep Space Nine"
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They got their proper due on "Deep Space Nine"
And too many episodes centering on/around them as well...
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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I looked for wrecked trains on ebay and those are hard to find too!
Almighty1
I remember this in the news too...

Bobby
I remember this in the news too...

That is a misnomer. In the old days you subscribed to telephone service. That included the telephone line and one telephone. An extension cost $1 a month extra. So that $14,000 over 42 years was for the service not the leased telephone. There is no way they paid $28 a month for 42 years for a leased telephone.
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Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
Whoever still has their 922, please let me know i just wanna see photos of the ui and other stuff
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Whoever still has their 922, please let me know i just wanna see photos of the ui and other stuff

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wL6dsORmXg
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Slicker guides never did much for me
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That is a misnomer. In the old days you subscribed to telephone service. That included the telephone line and one telephone. An extension cost $1 a month extra. So that $14,000 over 42 years was for the service not the leased telephone. There is no way they paid $28 a month for 42 years for a leased telephone.
Good point as part of that time mentioned was before I was even alive.

While reports from the family's case focused entirely on the equipment rental charges, media records show that Ester Strogen originally started by paying $29.95 per quarter ($9.98 per month) in the 1960s for her combined telephone connection.
The actual base cost for standard residential telephone service over a 42-year period (spanning roughly 1964 to 2006) reveals how basic connection costs evolved compared to the equipment rental fees:

Historical Phone Service Rates
  • 1960s – 1970s Base Rate: Standard local phone service was heavily subsidized and tightly regulated under the Bell System monopoly. A basic landline package with unlimited local calling typically cost between $5.00 and $10.00 per month.
  • 1980s – 2000s Post-Deregulation Rate: Following the AT&T divestiture in 1984, base line service rates steadily climbed due to the introduction of subscriber line charges, touch-tone fees, and local infrastructure adjustments. By 2006, basic flat-rate local residential phone service hovered around $15.00 to $25.00 per month (excluding long-distance packages and taxes).
The True Lifetime Service Bill

Assuming an average baseline connection fee of roughly $12.00 a month over that 42-year span, the line connectivity itself would have realistically accumulated to approximately $6,000 in raw cash payouts.
When you bundle the actual service costs together with the escalating equipment rental fees, the total cumulative out-of-pocket phone expenses over those four decades easily crossed $12,000 to $14,000. Long-distance phone calls—which were billed entirely by the minute back then and could cost up to 15 to 30 cents per minute—would add significantly more to that historical total depending on usage.

The widely publicized calculation stems from a viral news story from 2006 involving a widow named Ester Strogen. Her family discovered she had been continuously leasing two rotary dial telephones from AT&T for 42 years.
The total cost—which actually came out to more than $14,000 by the time the lease was canceled—was calculated based on the following legacy telecom structure:
  • The Monthly Fee: At the time her granddaughters discovered the charges, the ongoing leasing fee was $29.10 per month for the two outdated phones.
  • The Math: Over 42 years (504 months), paying roughly $24 to $30 a month accumulates to between $12,000 and $14,600 ($29.10 × 504 months = $14,666.40).
Why did this happen?
Prior to the landmark breakup of AT&T ("Ma Bell") in 1984, consumers were legally not allowed to own their phones; they were required to lease them directly from the phone company.
When the laws changed and phone ownership became legal, AT&T spun off its rental division into a company called QLT Consumer Lease Services. Millions of customers, particularly elderly individuals who were used to seeing a single unified phone bill, simply never realized that the small recurring "equipment lease" line-item could be canceled by buying a cheap phone at a retail store.

Yes, leasing absolutely cost that much in reality, and the math is entirely accurate. However, the calculations performed by the family did contain one major historical nuance: they multiplied the final 2006 rate across all 42 years, which means the actual total cash paid out was likely a bit lower.
The original viral story focused on 82-year-old widow Ester Strogen from Canton, Ohio, who paid $29.10 a month for two black rotary phones until her family intervened in July 2006.
The reality behind how the cost reached that staggering total breaks down into two distinct phases:

Phase 1: The Historical Base Rate (1960s – 1984)

When Strogen first got the phones in the 1960s, renting was a legal mandate and cost a fraction of the 2006 price—usually just a few dollars a month.
  • The "Insurance" Mirage: In exchange for that fee, Ma Bell promised free, lifetime maintenance. If the phone broke, they replaced it instantly at no extra cost.
  • The Cost-Plus Reality: Because these solid-state phones were built like tanks out of heavy plastic and steel, they almost never broke. Consumers paid a continuous premium for decades for a repair service they rarely used.
Phase 2: The Deregulation Rate Hikes (1984 – 2006)

After AT&T was forced to break up its monopoly in 1984, the rental side of the business was shifted to Lucent Technologies and later a legacy holding company. To maximize profit off a shrinking customer base, they steadily increased the monthly rental fees over the next 20 years.
  • By 2006, the rental cost had quietly ballooned to roughly $14.55 per phone per month.
  • When the family discovered the $29.10 monthly charge, they looked back at the 42-year span and estimated the collective loss at over $14,000.
Even adjusted for historical inflation—where $2 a month in 1964 had the purchasing power of roughly $20 today—Ester Strogen and hundreds of thousands of other elderly Americans realistically paid thousands of dollars out-of-pocket for standard desk phones they could have purchased at retail for $10.

The exact out-of-pocket dollar amount Ester Strogen paid over those 42 years was never publicly determined, as neither AT&T nor the family had access to monthly billing records stretching all the way back to the 1960s.
The figures reported in the media are entirely mathematical estimates based on the 2006 rate. The two primary numbers used to define the "cost" are:
  • The Stated Media Total: More than $14,000.
  • The Exact Family Formula: $14,666.40. This was derived by taking her final recorded bill of $29.10 per month and multiplying it across the full 42 years (504 months).
What the True Cash Cost Likely Was

Because AT&T did not charge $29.10 a month back in 1964, the true historical cash sum she handed over was lower than $14,000. In the 1960s and 1970s, basic phone lease fees were generally bundled into standard service or itemized at just $1.00 to $2.00 a month per phone.
If we realistically assume she paid lower base rates for the first 20 years before the post-1984 deregulation price hikes took effect, a realistic estimate of the actual cash paid is between $5,000 and $7,000.

The Real Cost When Adjusted for Inflation

While the family's $14,000 calculation overestimates the raw cash paid, it actually underestimates the true economic damage when factoring in the time value of money.
Paying $2.00 a month for equipment in 1964 sounds minor, but due to severe inflation during the 1970s, those early single dollars had the purchasing power of roughly $20.00 each in 2006 terms. If you adjust every historical lower monthly payment upward to account for inflation, Ester Strogen realistically lost the equivalent of well over $15,000 in modern purchasing power by renting instead of buying.
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Slicker guides never did much for me
me either. sometimes it seems like things disappear when they start changing sh*t around :biggrin
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I looked for wrecked trains on ebay and those are hard to find too!
you would be better off looking in ca for a train wreck to nowhere :biggrin :p
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jcrandall
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Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Programming Forum
So...DirecTV advertises the Choice package with 95+ bonus channels for Satellite customers. You don't want 90+ of the 95...

Excluding PPV, premium networks, infomercial, shopping, religion, and non-English programming, there are 7 channels on satellite that are not on streaming:
NFL Network, MavTV, FE TV, Free Speech, NASA, INSP, and Pursuit. I'm pretty sure a couple of those are public interest that they have to carry to meet an FCC quota on satellite.

I hope they get called out for this advertising because that is ridiculous. One big network, NFL, will probably get added to streaming when their next agreement comes up, and the rest are likely very low viewership.

What about streaming, what do you get extra with the Choice package that isn't on Satellite:
Two stations - one of which is an internet TV - Fox Weather, and Heros & Icons (a diginet). Nothing special here to look at either.

If they cleaned up a couple of their agreements, added a few public interest stations to streaming, they could probably have their lineups match. It's close now, if you take out all the garbage on satellite that they earn money on. If they can sell infomercials on satellite, why can't they on streaming, seems like a miss. A bigger miss, including those stations in the "bonus channels just for satellite customers." Pretty sad marketing right there.

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Attached is a comparison sheet of satellite vs streaming for the three main packages if anyone is interested.

MOD EDIT: See Post #3 for an up to date list of what channels are available on sat but not on streaming/internet, see Post #21 for an up to date list of what's available in the app for streaming customers, but not for sat customers.
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WNPX/28 Nashville (The new home of the Predators) and WMYD/20 Detroit (the new home of the Pistons) are testing on the stream server.
harshness
One might get the impression that what DIRECTV does, or doesn't, is becoming far less consequential than it used to be.
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One might get the impression that what DIRECTV does, or doesn't, is becoming far less consequential than it used to be.
K
WPLG/10 Miami is now available to stream customers

The CW stations WCWW/25 South Bend and WBKP/5 Marquette are testing on the stream server

Last week they also added a bunch of CW stations that are still not available to sat customers:
WETM-DT/19 Elmira
WJET-DT/25 Erie
KLFY-DT/11 Lafayette LA
KARD-DT/15 Monroe
WVBT-DT/44 Norfolk
WTWO-DT/3 Terre Haute
WFXV-DT/34 Utica
KFDX-DT/4 Wichita Falls
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Well, that was fast ! DTV Stream brought back WTCN's HD signal today.

I have to assume the station signing up a week ago as the Miami Heat affiliate here (to carry their games) did the trick. NBA magic !!!

Or the station engineer took care of the problem after hearing about it.
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WNPX/28 Nashville (The new home of the Predators) and WMYD/20 Detroit (the new home of the Pistons) are testing on the stream server.
Channel 28 Nashville hasn't been added so far, correct?
K
WNPX Nashville and WMYD Detroit were added to stream about 2 months ago.

They also now have PRDTRS/651 for those in Predators territory outside of the Nashville DMA and PISTONS/663-2 for those in Pistons territory outside of the Detroit DMA.
TheForce
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Apple Fall Hardware Event takes place today, September 9, 2026, at 10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET. It marks the debut of new CEO John Ternus and the expected reveal of Apple's first foldable phone.
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comfortably_numb
Can't remember if I've posted this yet..


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfL5seXJyWU
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Foxbat
If you ponied up for an iPhone Duo, keep it away from anything other than your soft, fleshy fingertips. No fingernails, no dust, sand, dirt, or other particulate matter. And don't bend it more than it needs to. Zack has destroyed $2,000 of Apple hardware to get those views, which should cover his expenses.
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comfortably_numb
No fingernails, no dust, sand, dirt, or other particulate matter

And definitely no medieval chain armor!
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harshness
medieval chain armor
Aka "mail" or "maille".
Foxbat
IFixIt has published their Teardown and they had some positive things to say about the iPhone Duo. It still showed some dust ingress into the hinge assembly but seemed otherwise well-sealed.
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But with a considerable number of reports of the main screen dying with similar failures, AppleCare+ should be a no-brainer for this phone.
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most carriers do. that's why they send updates that slow phones down!! i buy unlocked phones no effect to me
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IFixIt has published their Teardown and they had some positive things to say about the iPhone Duo. It still showed some dust ingress into the hinge assembly but seemed otherwise well-sealed.
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But with a considerable number of reports of the main screen dying with similar failures, AppleCare+ should be a no-brainer for this phone.

hope you have apple care a screen job is 1000.00 :oops:. can we say over priced garbage!!!