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Bobbj

Last reply Sep 6, 2019 · posted in Over the Air Television By RabbitEars.Info

Pre Amp Issue/Suggestions

Hello,

I am trying to help my brother set up a new antenna at his house which is about 5 miles away from me. I do understand that just moving down the street can cause a difference in signals etc. Both of our tvfool reports are not very good. However I am only trying to get the ABC, CBS, and Fox stations that are nearest to the both of us in the Altoona direction.

At my location which has far worse results http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wr...9038db6c160fa2
I can easily get WTAJ, WATM, WWCP, WJAC (even Pittsburgh stations). At my location I tried a CM 7777 amp that would overload and got me 0 channels, CM 7778 which did nothing, and the CM 7777HD adjustable gain extremely improved my results. I normally get 14 channels with it on its lowest setting (some of them co-channels).

There are 2 large cell towers from my location that are in my line of sight that I can physically see towards the Altoona stations. Could I be getting a reflection from the cell towers??

When using the same CM 7777 HD and antennas at my bothers house http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wr...9038e93212350b
I get 0 channels even on its lowest setting. When I take the amp off I can normally get 4-8 channels which are WJAC and WTAJ which has me confused.

Anyone have any amp recommendations or reasons I could be getting 0 channels with the amp connected ? Thanks in advance

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Bobbj

Sep 5, 2019

The metal roof might be the cause. I noticed if I took the antenna off the roof and walked away from the house with no amplifier I began to receive more channels. Is running coax 150-200 feet too far to run with a pre amp? I've read there is dB loss for every 10 ft but I'm thinking I need to move away from the huge metal roof.

primestar31

Sep 6, 2019

Bobbj said:
The metal roof might be the cause. I noticed if I took the antenna off the roof and walked away from the house with no amplifier I began to receive more channels. Is running coax 150-200 feet too far to run with a pre amp? I've read there is dB loss for every 10 ft but I'm thinking I need to move away from the huge metal roof.

When the antenna is on the roof, how HIGH above the roof surface is it mounted on the mast pipe? It might be all you need to do is go up another 10ft or so, to stop the coupling between the metal roof and antenna.

If you do this, you need guy wires every 10ft to help keep things stable.

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Bobbj

Sep 6, 2019

Thank you for the reply. I only had it up about 6-7 feet on the mast above the roof when testing the reception. I will have to try to raise it higher to see if this was causing the reflection. There are also some small trees about 30 yards away that could be blocking the signals. I'm still wondering if the roof doesn't have something to do with the pre amp not working at his location.

The 7777HD has adjustable gain and a lte filter but lte signals are weak in his location. Even on its lowest setting gain it brings in 0 channels vs not using the pre amp which can bring in up to 8 channels. I might get a different amp just to test it out. I know at my location the cm 7777 would do the same exact thing with 0 channels and the 7777hd model made a world of difference. If only he lived on top of a hill haha.

FTA4PA

Sep 6, 2019

Bobbj said:
When using the same CM 7777 HD and antennas at my bothers house http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wr...9038e93212350b
I get 0 channels even on its lowest setting. When I take the amp off I can normally get 4-8 channels which are WJAC and WTAJ which has me confused.
Anyone have any amp recommendations or reasons I could be getting 0 channels with the amp connected ? Thanks in advance

Bobbj said:
I'm still wondering if the roof doesn't have something to do with the pre amp not working at his location.
The 7777HD has adjustable gain and a lte filter but lte signals are weak in his location. Even on its lowest setting gain it brings in 0 channels vs not using the pre amp which can bring in up to 8 channels. I might get a different amp just to test it out. I know at my location the cm 7777 would do the same exact thing with 0 channels and the 7777hd model made a world of difference. If only he lived on top of a hill haha.

Just wanted to clarify. At your brothers house are you using your amp that you use at your house? I mean did you remove it from your setup and bring it over to try there or did you buy another of the same model to use at his house? If the latter, maybe the new amp is defective?

Bobbj

Sep 6, 2019

You are correct. I removed the amp from my setup and tested it at his location. The amp is currently back on my setup and is working fine.

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FTA4PA

Sep 6, 2019

Bobbj said:
You are correct. I removed the amp from my setup and tested it at his location. The amp is currently back on my setup and is working fine.

That rules that out then.

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Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.

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Strega said:
Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.

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Jimbo said:
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long_time_Dish

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Also watched part 2 about a week or so ago after rewatching part 1. It's not as faithful to the book as I was hoping for. Part 1 stayed fairly faithful to the novel, but part 2 took some liberties that I felt were rather excessively non-novel. It looks like a prequel series will happen before part 3. My issue is: there's no prequel that was written as a novel, so what will it be pulled from? Or will it just be "based loosely" on the novel?

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long_time_DNC said:
Also watched part 2 about a week or so ago after rewatching part 1. It's not as faithful to the book as I was hoping for. Part 1 stayed fairly faithful to the novel, but part 2 took some liberties that I felt were rather excessively non-novel. It looks like a prequel series will happen before part 3. My issue is: there's no prequel that was written as a novel, so what will it be pulled from? Or will it just be "based loosely" on the novel?

There is a bunch of other Dune written by Kevin J Anderson and Brian Herbert (Franks son). I think the series in production is taken from one of their books about the Bene Gesserit.

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klang said:
There is a bunch of other Dune written by Kevin J Anderson and Brian Herbert (Franks son). I think the series in production is taken from one of their books about the Bene Gesserit.

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