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I have found more negatve feedback on this campaign, and have actually recieved complaint calls from existing, and what could have been, prospective customers. Any other retailers have any input on this?
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Yes, taking the grand approach of spreading misinformation regarding their HD plans:MikeD-C05 said:
Me: Hello, I am in interested in ordering DirecTV service since I am big fan of HDTV.
CSR: You have called the right place since we are in the process of rolling out 1500HD channels. DirecTV is the leading provider of HDTV.
Me: Could you please list some of those 1500HD channels before I order?
CSR: Well Sir, you will be receiving your local ABC, CBS, FOX, NBC and perhaps one or two other local broadcast stations...oh, all in glorious 1280x1080i.
Me: Er...I already receive those free over-the-air channels with my antenna...oh, all in glorious 1920x1080i and 1280x720p. Can you tell me what terrific new national HD channels you will be providing.
CSR: DirecTV is committed to bringing you the most HDTV. Did I mention that we were in the process of making 1500HD channels available to our customers?
Me:
Very mature and visionary.
riffjim4069 said:Yes, taking the grand approach of spreading misinformation regarding their HD plans:
Me: Hello, I am in interested in ordering DirecTV service since I am big fan of HDTV.
CSR: You have called the right place since we are in the process of rolling out 1500HD channels. DirecTV is the leading provider of HDTV.
Me: Could you please list some of those 1500HD channels before I order?
CSR: Well Sir, you will be receiving your local ABC, CBS, FOX, NBC and perhaps one or two other local broadcast stations...oh, all in glorious 1280x1080i.
Me: Er...I already receive those free over-the-air channels with my antenna...oh, all in glorious 1920x1080i and 1280x720p. Can you tell me what terrific new national HD channels you will be providing.
CSR: DirecTV is committed to bringing you the most HDTV. Did I mention that we were in the process of making 1500HD channels available to our customers?
Me:
Very mature and visionary.
You forget though the problem with OTA is that it is by definition an ANTENNA!!!! and thereby a heck of a lot more unstable in regards to environment. I live in DFW, and I have a OTA antenna (very large in my attic). I like the local HD feeds through the OTA, but when it comes to recording HD I still prefer to record through the sat signal instead. It has nothing to do with quality and everything to do with stability. If you add in the fact that the 942 only has one OTA (which was big mistake IMO) then you have a real big hole in the HD offering for Dish. D* gives me the option of recording all the prime stations (abc, fox, nbc, cbs) through my sat and they give the capability to record TWO hd feeds through my OTA as well. Dish is totally lacking in this regard. All E* has to do is either a) offer national feeds for all the big four like D* does presently or b)offer a reciever with TWO OTA capability and I would rate them comparable if not better than D* in terms of offering, but right now they are way way behind the power curve (a fact I understand considering the status of RB1). So you might want to rethink the overall offering of D* before being too critical. I know E* offers VOOM, which is really nice but it's not enough for prime time (I think of VOOM as really really tasty sweet icing, but it's still not the cake). Right now E* has a bunch of really really nice side dishes, but it is missing the main course and vice versa for D* (however sides are easier to add on).
I think that knocking your competition to make yourself look better is taking the low ground . If you have to tear down the competition like cable to make yourself look better than you are a small minded person or company. Selling yourself on your merits and accomplishments, whether we are talking about a person or a service like Dishnetwork is the more mature , respectable way to go. Granted the Directv people are continuing to misslead the public with their advertisements with the 1500 hd channels , but they are not knocking the competition to do it. I am a Dish sub and have been for almost 9 years , but Directv is not tearing down the competitors to do their advertising.
I work with a group of women officers at the prison , who do nothing but tear each other down and make fun of what the others do to make them selves look superior in comparison. This is the same prinicple at work with Dish knocking the competition and saying they "suck". I mean would you respect someone who is always tearing down everyone they know ,just to make themselves look better? Trust me I stay way clear of these individuals as they are negative individuals who are selling nothing but spite, and malicious gossip. I think a lot of people will associate Dish's tactics with the same as the individuals I named above.
Trust me, Dish needs to come up with a new campaign by 1st quarter , next year to sell themselves on their accomplishments and merits if they want to look better than the competition they are knocking in their" Tv sucks " campaign.
Only small minded people with no self respect and a poor self image would agree that tearing down the competition is the way to go in life or in business.
I work with a group of women officers at the prison , who do nothing but tear each other down and make fun of what the others do to make them selves look superior in comparison. This is the same prinicple at work with Dish knocking the competition and saying they "suck". I mean would you respect someone who is always tearing down everyone they know ,just to make themselves look better? Trust me I stay way clear of these individuals as they are negative individuals who are selling nothing but spite, and malicious gossip. I think a lot of people will associate Dish's tactics with the same as the individuals I named above.
Trust me, Dish needs to come up with a new campaign by 1st quarter , next year to sell themselves on their accomplishments and merits if they want to look better than the competition they are knocking in their" Tv sucks " campaign.
Only small minded people with no self respect and a poor self image would agree that tearing down the competition is the way to go in life or in business.
I have Dish with Hopper3. I choose to get local channels OTA and had a "guide list" established at my previous home. Having moved a few miles away, I wanted to update the list by appending a couple new stations via a rescan. As many would know, some stations come in with the UHF/VHF antenna aimed in one direction, while others come in better with a different direction.
Unfortunately, when a scan is done (bringing in 25-30 stations for that particular antenna aim), the dialog screen does not present the established guide list; it presents an empty field to the right that the scanned stations may be selected one by one and added to the empty guide. But because of antenna aim, some stations originally saved are missing, and would have to be retrieved with a different antenna aim. But as I explain, if a 2nd scan is done with a different antenna aim, the stations saved from the first scan are lost.
It troubles me that Dish didn't develop software that would allow a user to simply append only 1 or 2 channels to the established list.
Any thought on this? Has anyone experienced this or heard of this from others?
Unfortunately, when a scan is done (bringing in 25-30 stations for that particular antenna aim), the dialog screen does not present the established guide list; it presents an empty field to the right that the scanned stations may be selected one by one and added to the empty guide. But because of antenna aim, some stations originally saved are missing, and would have to be retrieved with a different antenna aim. But as I explain, if a 2nd scan is done with a different antenna aim, the stations saved from the first scan are lost.
It troubles me that Dish didn't develop software that would allow a user to simply append only 1 or 2 channels to the established list.
Any thought on this? Has anyone experienced this or heard of this from others?
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Over the past year I have been tracking the changes on Western Arc. The past 3 months have had a lot of changes that I posted in the other MPEG2 Western Arc shutdown thread. Now that 129 is (basically) out of commission, here is where Western Arc stands. This is just a national channel list, (no local channels) based off what I can see and what others have contributed. Thanks to everyone who has helped me come up with the locations of some of the channels – I would try and list all of you out, but I know I would forget someone! As has been suggested in other parts of the forum, it would be great to collect the spotbeam data for those who could contribute!
A couple of pieces of info:
When I talk about number of channels on a transponder, all my numbers are unique channels – for example, channel 101 and 199 are the same channel mapped to two different numbers, but in terms of space, only takes up 1 channel worth of bandwidth on the transponder.
Finally, I have to give Dish a ton of credit. When it was 110/119/129, Dish had 82 transponders they were using – it took a lot to get it down to 50 transponders and figure out where all the pieces were going to go. What are the things they did to get there? Here are the things I saw:
A couple of pieces of info:
- Out of the 64 transponders between 110/119, there are currently 50 transponders that Dish is licensed to use. 22 are Spotbeams, 28 are ConUS transponders (14 transponders are licensed to DirecTV and Dish doesn't have access to them)
- Those 28 ConUS transponders are divided as follows:
- 10 are dedicated to National HD channels (ESPN, CNN, Disney Channel, etc). Dish is maxing out at 16 HD channels per transponder (note – in an earlier post I said there was one transponder with 17 HD channels, that was an error on my part. When I double checked my listings, one channel changed transponders). Before the transition, there was a maximum of 14 HD channels per transponder.
- 1 transponder is dedicated to adult content
- 2 are a mixture HD PPV Movies/4k channels
- 3 are set aside for HD Sports channels that are only on for live games (NBA League Pass, the PAC 12 alternate channels, some PPV events, etc); 3 SD PPV Sports Channels are there as well.
- 7 are for SD and/or music channels. Dish is maxing out at 26 SD channels per transponder thus far on the SD transponders.
- 5 transponders on 110 I have no channels listed but Dish operates. (they are labeled as ConUS on my chart below) There are other things that could be on those transponders, like RV Distant Networks, internal testing channels, etc, that I can't see. They might be able to be used for additional content, but I am not sure exactly what is on those transponders.
When I talk about number of channels on a transponder, all my numbers are unique channels – for example, channel 101 and 199 are the same channel mapped to two different numbers, but in terms of space, only takes up 1 channel worth of bandwidth on the transponder.
Finally, I have to give Dish a ton of credit. When it was 110/119/129, Dish had 82 transponders they were using – it took a lot to get it down to 50 transponders and figure out where all the pieces were going to go. What are the things they did to get there? Here are the things I saw:
- During this migration from 129, Dish converted 7 ConUS transponders on 119 into Spotbeams – that is how they ended up fitting on all the HD locals that used to be on 129. (for those interested, TP 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 13 are the ones that used to be ConUS on 119 that are now Spotbeam)
- Removed almost all SD duplicate channels that are offered in HD
- Converted remaining SD channels from MPEG2 to MPEG4
- There are also 2 subtle things that changed from the HD channel perspective
- At the beginning of the transition, Dish decreased the number of PPV Movie channels – prior to this transition the PPV channels HD PPV movies were 502-522; now they are 502-517.
- At the beginning of April when MLB, NBA, and NHL regular seasons were all going on at the same time and this transition began, there were a ton of games "joined in progress" for the HD feeds. That wasn't common since the days before the full time HD RSN's. The reason for that was prior to the transition, Dish had 4 transponders set aside for HD Sports – 2 transponders was the bandwidth set aside from the HD RSN's before Dish dropped the RSN's, then 2 transponders were for alternate channels. Now we are down to 3 transponders for HD sports.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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According to this article on The Verge, Videostrong Technologies based in Shenzen, China, placed a backdoor into 1.3 million of their devices and used this to deploy a botnet:
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One of Google’s Android partners turned 1.3 million set-top boxes into a botnet
A manufacturer intentionally hijacked its Android TV devices.
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'I bought these super cheap off-brand Android devices and got burned, now I'll never buy name brand stuff!' 
Someone's, need to neuter the red China's junk they keeps spewing out... 
How about they just neuter China ...Someone's, need to neuter the red China's junk they keeps spewing out...
Only, If they can make a coup on the Chinese government! 
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Cheap, just the battery. Working or not.
Anybody got anything they'd just as soon get rid of? They look like this:
Anybody got anything they'd just as soon get rid of? They look like this:
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Razor Crest arrived today.
Quad motor, Large pack, Forest Green exterior, Black Mountain Dark Ash interior.
Quad motor, Large pack, Forest Green exterior, Black Mountain Dark Ash interior.
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This is a thread that will keep you apprised of 4K events that will be showing on Dish channel 540. Keep looking here for information.
As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.
As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.
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Since the Reds have there thread we should too!
Last watched Nine inch Nails
Next 3:10 to Yuma
Last watched Nine inch Nails
Next 3:10 to Yuma
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Last of the Dogmen is my favorite of hers.
I've had a H3 receiver for years but just recently began watching and recording 4k content. I'm consistently having the display revert to the upper left quarter of the screen after fast forwarding or pausing the playback of 4k recordings.
Some research I've done blames it on the Hopper as not having the processing power to quickly shift between the FF or pause playback formats and it leaves the playback device in a mode thinking that it's no longer receiving a 4k stream. So it displays the 1/4 image.
I've found that I can quickly recover back to a full screen 4k display by using the remote sequence Pause / Info / Resume.
I've tested this on two different monitors, but they're both LGs, so maybe it's the TVs, and not the Hopper? Is this a known problem? Anyone else experience this?
Some research I've done blames it on the Hopper as not having the processing power to quickly shift between the FF or pause playback formats and it leaves the playback device in a mode thinking that it's no longer receiving a 4k stream. So it displays the 1/4 image.
I've found that I can quickly recover back to a full screen 4k display by using the remote sequence Pause / Info / Resume.
I've tested this on two different monitors, but they're both LGs, so maybe it's the TVs, and not the Hopper? Is this a known problem? Anyone else experience this?
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