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Locals Protest the 5G Towers That Promise a High-Tech Future


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There was a time when americans had a bit of common sense, and could handle reasoning better to sort through what is real and what is not. 5G power levels will be quite low. With more transmitters closer together, the power needed will be less than current systems. Also, the higher frequencies will mean multiple antennas can be integrated into a site to allow beam forming where it is needed, further reducing required power and raising efficiency. It is non ionizing RF, quite harmless. Think for yourself people. It is well known there are people trying to hinder our tech progress by spreading online lies about 5G.
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But I'm already living a High-Tech Now. What do I need this crap for? A refrigerator connected to the Internet? A lamp? Why do these need to be connected to the Internet? And I need 5G to connect all these devices at my home instead of my existing fiber connection because...?

They're right that 5G is a whole bunch of hype over nothing. I'm already satisified with 4G LTE speeds on my phone when I'm out and about in public. What the hell are you people doing out in public on your phones that needs anything faster than the ~100 Mbps I already get with 4G?

I remember when people left the house to get away from their screens.

I know why China's so excited about 5G. It helps them build a total surveillance state. The more devices they can have connected to the Internet, the more wireless cameras they can deploy, the more ways the Chinese government can spy on their citizens.

This also sums up the inefficiency of having four different wireless carriers each competing with each other with their own chunks of the spectrum instead of having a utility type system for wireless:
Because each pole only houses technology for one mobile carrier, Denver could see hundreds or thousands more as companies expand their 5G networks in the coming years.

Now they have to build out 4x as much redundant crap whereas if the wireless industry was nationalized with the government deploying the infrastructure and wireless companies leasing access to it there would only be a single pole instead of four to do the same thing.
907TECH
But I'm already living a High-Tech Now. What do I need this crap for? A refrigerator connected to the Internet? A lamp? Why do these need to be connected to the Internet? And I need 5G to connect all these devices at my home instead of my existing fiber connection because...?

They're right that 5G is a whole bunch of hype over nothing. I'm already satisified with 4G LTE speeds on my phone when I'm out and about in public. What the hell are you people doing out in public on your phones that needs anything faster than the ~100 Mbps I already get with 4G?

I remember when people left the house to get away from their screens.

I know why China's so excited about 5G. It helps them build a total surveillance state. The more devices they can have connected to the Internet, the more wireless cameras they can deploy, the more ways the Chinese government can spy on their citizens.

This also sums up the inefficiency of having four different wireless carriers each competing with each other with their own chunks of the spectrum instead of having a utility type system for wireless:


Now they have to build out 4x as much redundant crap whereas if the wireless industry was nationalized with the government deploying the infrastructure and wireless companies leasing access to it there would only be a single pole instead of four to do the same thing.

I don't think you have a grasp on the potential of 5G. There will be many things possible using 5G that are currently impossible. Future innovation, growth and international business competition dictates that we go all in or we shall fall behind. Things like real time traffic analysis, controlling traffic signals all over town to relieve congestion and rerouting vehicles. Wireless virtual reality streaming. Remote health care. Video conferencing like you are there. Dismiss it at your peril.
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There was a time when americans had a bit of common sense, and could handle reasoning better to sort through what is real and what is not. 5G power levels will be quite low. With more transmitters closer together, the power needed will be less than current systems. Also, the higher frequencies will mean multiple antennas can be integrated into a site to allow beam forming where it is needed, further reducing required power and raising efficiency. It is non ionizing RF, quite harmless. Think for yourself people. It is well known there are people trying to hinder our tech progress by spreading online lies about 5G.

And that "common sense" led to large companies thinking they can do as they please with our surrounds/environment in the name of "common sense expansion". I have an IoT Microwave and Washing Machine. BIG DEAL!! They are more trouble than they are worth. Simple failures cost more to address since they have IoTech. And they don't do anything extra except report back to the Mothership when I nuke pizza wrong or wash my underwear in cold water. PLUS! as per the article, the signal won't penetrate the exterior of your house. SO, one may say, "then why not?" Well what's the use if it's not going to cover and only be outside?

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I don't have a 5G cellphone. Matter of fact, I don't have a cellphone at all. Got rid of it in 2003. Three years long after I should have. I don't miss it a bit and feel free . . . if not reasonably cheap. When I go outdoors I'm surrounded by water and can't use it on the Island anyway. That's right, an Island. All the money I saved from not having to pay cellphone bills and keep up to date with the Jones' that have "common sense" and buy the latest and greatest cellphone every time they come out, I was able to buy an Island. That's where I "Sand Farm".
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I don't have a 5G cellphone. Matter of fact, I don't have a cellphone at all. Got rid of it in 2003. Three years long after I should have. I don't miss it a bit and feel free . . . if not reasonably cheap. When I go outdoors I'm surrounded by water and can't use it on the Island anyway. That's right, an Island. All the money I saved from not having to pay cellphone bills and keep up to date with the Jones' that have "common sense" and buy the latest and greatest cellphone every time they come out, I was able to buy an Island. That's where I "Sand Farm".

PS? I'm going to have to call BS. Let's say you spent $100 a month on service and bought a new $800 average phone every year. That's $2,000 per year for the past 16 years or $32,000 (doubtful). I don't think I'd care to live on any island you could buy for $32,000. And, most people need a phone for work, business, keeping up with the family, etc.
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I don't think you have a grasp on the potential of 5G. There will be many things possible using 5G that are currently impossible. Future innovation, growth and international business competition dictates that we go all in or we shall fall behind. Things like real time traffic analysis, controlling traffic signals all over town to relieve congestion and rerouting vehicles. Wireless virtual reality streaming. Remote health care. Video conferencing like you are there. Dismiss it at your peril.
I agree with this aspect of the debate. I also agree that I don't need every aspect of my house to be accessed via the internet. I don't have or want a Ring system. I don't need my fridge to give me the weather report. I find them to be frivolous things. But yes, there are countless opportunities that await with 5G.
jerryez
i do not use text messaging, but get texts daily from doctor's appt reminders, politicians seeking money and Verizon reminding me twice that my monthly bill is due and I am on autopay. And I do not even want to get into Social Security scams, telling me that I am going to jail. Do people really fall for this. All calls in and out of this country should be blocked unless they are in you contact list. I am really tired of autocall scams and foreign call centers that do not even speak understandable English. Have givien a lot of thought to getting rid of my cell phone.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Strange Days - Nazareth
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Dancing Days - Led Zeppelin
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Dancing in the Street - Van Halen
long_time_Dish
Bakers Street - Gerry Rafferty
Bobby
Bakers Street - Gerry Rafferty
Let me fix that for you:
Baker Street - Gerry Rafferty
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I know HipKat said that they were working on conversions but we got the official news yesterday right from Dish that starting next month all DMA's will be on the western arc, and all customers will be assigned to that. That's gonna mean a lot of customers around here aren't gonna get Dish unless there are exceptions. Too many mountains and trees.
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Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.
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Jimbo
Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.
Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.
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Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.
I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.
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I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.
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can't forget the little blue m&m's
That's what my wife calls my Viagra!!
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Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink
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Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink
Because he didn't have a fleet of reusable rockets. Starlink works because SpaceX is able to launch hundreds (thousands?) of their Starlink satellites for what a single geostationary Internet satellite costs to build and launch on a disposable launcher.
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But how is it reusable if it's disposable
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That's what my wife calls my Viagra!!
My gf is 29 years younger than me :shh
Almighty1
Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink
He does not have the resources aka $$$ compared to Elon Musk as in reality, Elon can eat Charlie for lunch or even mop the floor with Charlie if he wanted to.
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long_time_Dish
Also watched part 2 about a week or so ago after rewatching part 1. It's not as faithful to the book as I was hoping for. Part 1 stayed fairly faithful to the novel, but part 2 took some liberties that I felt were rather excessively non-novel. It looks like a prequel series will happen before part 3. My issue is: there's no prequel that was written as a novel, so what will it be pulled from? Or will it just be "based loosely" on the novel?
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Also watched part 2 about a week or so ago after rewatching part 1. It's not as faithful to the book as I was hoping for. Part 1 stayed fairly faithful to the novel, but part 2 took some liberties that I felt were rather excessively non-novel. It looks like a prequel series will happen before part 3. My issue is: there's no prequel that was written as a novel, so what will it be pulled from? Or will it just be "based loosely" on the novel?
There is a bunch of other Dune written by Kevin J Anderson and Brian Herbert (Franks son). I think the series in production is taken from one of their books about the Bene Gesserit.
long_time_Dish
There is a bunch of other Dune written by Kevin J Anderson and Brian Herbert (Franks son). I think the series in production is taken from one of their books about the Bene Gesserit.
Correct. I've read all of them (yes, it took awhile, better part of a year, in my spare time). And they can't really consider or classify a series about the Bene Gesserit as a prequel. Sure, I suppose they can call it that, if they want to, because it begins before the time of Paul Atredies, but it's still a stretch. It's a Dune-related novel, not a prequel as we generally think of prequels...
long_time_Dish
Well, it looks good! I just hope they stayed close to the trilogy, but it doesn't look like it.
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