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Caught todays 4k HDR football game Notre Dame.
First time I've seen the NBC produced games.
Nothing to write home about.
Close ups were nice.
Wide shots poor.
The HDR was only a tiny bit better.
Pretty disappointed.
Viewed on Sony OLED 77".
This 1080P HDR while better than regular HD is still pretty disappointing.
Even on the close ups today I could see lots of artifacts.
The QB face and chin area had tiny pixelating probably some kind of conversion or low bit rate artifacting.
Of course all the slo-mo and replays had artifacting.
And at times stutter playback on the replays.
Color was ok.
But now that we've had this for the football season I only hope they spend the bucks for next year and get 100% 4k cameras to my TV.
Every step 4k HDR.
This fake 1080P 4k is just not that great.
And feeding it into a TV capable of showing amazing 4k HDR 60P it's pretty damn disappointing what Disney ESPN, Comcast NBC, and Fox are giving us.
This trial - beta run I hope will make them get their butts in gear for REAL 100% FULL 4K HDR for next season.
And open their damn wallets and spend the money to upgrade their studios as needed.
We've got the TV's and satellite / cable / APPS method to view Real 4K HDR but they are not giving it to us.
That must end now.
The Olympics will no doubt blow us away next Summer with pristine Real 4k HDR quality.
I don't want to then hit Fall and see glorious 1080P on my 4k tv for football.
Anyway, I was hoping NBC would be a slam dunk and be better then ESPN and FOX they aren't.
I think they are worse by a little.
After ESPN's mighty Earth changing press release about 4K a while back they are the biggest disappointment.
They should be a leader and should have had the REAL FULL 4K AND HDR. They completely blew it IMO.
Proving they are not a leader at all and not even 1080P HDR. Just 1080P fake 4k.
I hope 2020 will change for the better with REAL FULL 4K HDR sports.
On a side note, today I checked out the local Best Buy, they have 4K TV's so thick and everywhere in the store you can barely walk in the isles.
Costco has them stacked up bigtime too.
I think we now are ready to have SD and HD be gone and just become a 4K world.
bjf
First time I've seen the NBC produced games.
Nothing to write home about.
Close ups were nice.
Wide shots poor.
The HDR was only a tiny bit better.
Pretty disappointed.
Viewed on Sony OLED 77".
This 1080P HDR while better than regular HD is still pretty disappointing.
Even on the close ups today I could see lots of artifacts.
The QB face and chin area had tiny pixelating probably some kind of conversion or low bit rate artifacting.
Of course all the slo-mo and replays had artifacting.
And at times stutter playback on the replays.
Color was ok.
But now that we've had this for the football season I only hope they spend the bucks for next year and get 100% 4k cameras to my TV.
Every step 4k HDR.
This fake 1080P 4k is just not that great.
And feeding it into a TV capable of showing amazing 4k HDR 60P it's pretty damn disappointing what Disney ESPN, Comcast NBC, and Fox are giving us.
This trial - beta run I hope will make them get their butts in gear for REAL 100% FULL 4K HDR for next season.
And open their damn wallets and spend the money to upgrade their studios as needed.
We've got the TV's and satellite / cable / APPS method to view Real 4K HDR but they are not giving it to us.
That must end now.
The Olympics will no doubt blow us away next Summer with pristine Real 4k HDR quality.
I don't want to then hit Fall and see glorious 1080P on my 4k tv for football.
Anyway, I was hoping NBC would be a slam dunk and be better then ESPN and FOX they aren't.
I think they are worse by a little.
After ESPN's mighty Earth changing press release about 4K a while back they are the biggest disappointment.
They should be a leader and should have had the REAL FULL 4K AND HDR. They completely blew it IMO.
Proving they are not a leader at all and not even 1080P HDR. Just 1080P fake 4k.
I hope 2020 will change for the better with REAL FULL 4K HDR sports.
On a side note, today I checked out the local Best Buy, they have 4K TV's so thick and everywhere in the store you can barely walk in the isles.
Costco has them stacked up bigtime too.
I think we now are ready to have SD and HD be gone and just become a 4K world.
bjf
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longhorn23,
In the one link I posted it says they are doing 1080P replays.
Thus this is not end to end pure 4k. It's being downconverted.
How much who knows unless you have a friend at ESPN 4k master control.
I don't trust any of them especially as they are always using (*) for various things they don't really
want you to know or see. And then they make the text point size so itty bitty small and hard to read.
In other words they are hiding things that don't make them look good.
As an example.
Here's a ESPN press release see the very bottom. See the *.
espnpressroom.com
I also saw another press release by Fox where they hype 4k but no mention about that it's 1080P.
It's these kinds of things they make me not trust any of them.
Especially after Fox lied right to our face the past years of Fox 4k.
I still laugh about ESPN's press release how they took a long time just to get 4K right.
Sound like they literally invented the wheel and spent tons of money.
And probably beta tested 'til they were blue in the face.
And yet, .... they didn't bother with HDR.
Yes, ESPN the world leader in sports. LOL
All that Disney money and too cheap to start with HDR that their
competitors were already doing.
BTW, maybe ESPN Amy can shed light on what is actually Native / 100% 4k at ESPN.
Here phone number is in the press release.
I can't find the other article from months back but I thought it was discussed here before ESPN starting having 4K football.
I will keep looking.
I will say I've only seen one ESPN game and I posted about it here.
But as I recall I was not impressed bigtime.
However I recall longhorn23 saying they had seen other games and were impressed.
And the one I saw was not great.
I don't know if the 6 ESPN games are now done or if more will still happen.
They did say the National Final game will be in 4K. It would seem odd if none of the bowl games were in 4K.
So if more are I will try and get to where I can see another game.
On the tech side though hard to acknowledge pure native 4k when they are doing 1080P replays.
You're going to pollute the native / pure 4k somehow.
Sorta like Burger Kings Impossible Whopper veggie burger being cooked with beef fat.
Man my veggie burger sure tastes like the real thing, oh you mean we forgot to tell you and Vegans that it's being
drenched in animal fat. Oops, sorry about that one....now that we've been found out.
And as for the Olympics non-live 8K downconvert.
It is possible they tweaked them with the time delay but I doubt it very much.
The time delay might have been they were just doing this as a beta test.
Learning the ropes.
Remember it was 8k for Japan / S. Korea as a big screen high tech demo.
I'd bet it was live in 8K for them. Different audio then we got.
And we got the 4k sloppy seconds.
HD was not done from this 4k.
They had their own different set of HD cameras and master control.
So the USA 4k time delay was just NBC being sloppy and not giving it live.
They easily could have.
The 8K HDR downconvert to 4K HDR was done in real time through a converter box and could have
gone right out to satellite and to us. As they made no money off it they would not waste time improving color, HDR, etc.
They however could have had commercials like they did for the HD early bonus beta test coverage they ran that F'ING sony ad a zillion times. NBC sucked then and still sucks for the Olympics !!! I wish someone else could get the Olympics or just let us buy a direct package straight from the Olympics and give them our money.
Get rid of these terrible announcers NBC forces on us. Wish we had a audio off button for all narration and just hear it like those in the venue. Like you're really there.
What a novel idea. A world with no more bob costas and his ilk.
Anyway, back to ESPN 4K.
I do hope you're 100% right and I'm wrong. If it is Full 4K Native 100% that would be great.
But I'm doubtful that is what were getting.
The No HDR is a very stupid omission however.
Lastly, I can't wait for the 4K HDR 2020 Olympics.
I hope this time it's live in 4K. I'd say a 50/50 chance of this happening with NBC.
Further I've read all the events are 8K HDR in Japan/S. Korea. so maybe DTV, Dish and others will have multiple 4K live feeds/streams for us.
We''ll know next year. Seems they never tell us about 4K until the last moment. But for sure it'll be worth the wait.
It would be so great if we got the 8K feed and were living in a 8K world. The fact we know others are getting this and we can't is disappointing.
But the 4K will look stunning no doubt about it. But will it be LIVE 4K? We'll see.
bjf
In the one link I posted it says they are doing 1080P replays.
Thus this is not end to end pure 4k. It's being downconverted.
How much who knows unless you have a friend at ESPN 4k master control.
I don't trust any of them especially as they are always using (*) for various things they don't really
want you to know or see. And then they make the text point size so itty bitty small and hard to read.
In other words they are hiding things that don't make them look good.
As an example.
Here's a ESPN press release see the very bottom. See the *.
Samsung & ESPN Present ESPN’s First Live Native 4K Sports Telecasts - ESPN Press Room
Beginning this weekend on Oct. 12, ESPN will deliver select regular season college football games live in native 4K resolution as part of the “Samsung QLED 4K Game of the Week.” This agreement with Samsung, who serves as production collaborator and presenting sponsor, kicks off with Saturday’s...
espnpressroom.com
I also saw another press release by Fox where they hype 4k but no mention about that it's 1080P.
It's these kinds of things they make me not trust any of them.
Especially after Fox lied right to our face the past years of Fox 4k.
I still laugh about ESPN's press release how they took a long time just to get 4K right.
Sound like they literally invented the wheel and spent tons of money.
And probably beta tested 'til they were blue in the face.
And yet, .... they didn't bother with HDR.
Yes, ESPN the world leader in sports. LOL
All that Disney money and too cheap to start with HDR that their
competitors were already doing.
BTW, maybe ESPN Amy can shed light on what is actually Native / 100% 4k at ESPN.
Here phone number is in the press release.
I can't find the other article from months back but I thought it was discussed here before ESPN starting having 4K football.
I will keep looking.
I will say I've only seen one ESPN game and I posted about it here.
But as I recall I was not impressed bigtime.
However I recall longhorn23 saying they had seen other games and were impressed.
And the one I saw was not great.
I don't know if the 6 ESPN games are now done or if more will still happen.
They did say the National Final game will be in 4K. It would seem odd if none of the bowl games were in 4K.
So if more are I will try and get to where I can see another game.
On the tech side though hard to acknowledge pure native 4k when they are doing 1080P replays.
You're going to pollute the native / pure 4k somehow.
Sorta like Burger Kings Impossible Whopper veggie burger being cooked with beef fat.
Man my veggie burger sure tastes like the real thing, oh you mean we forgot to tell you and Vegans that it's being
drenched in animal fat. Oops, sorry about that one....now that we've been found out.
And as for the Olympics non-live 8K downconvert.
It is possible they tweaked them with the time delay but I doubt it very much.
The time delay might have been they were just doing this as a beta test.
Learning the ropes.
Remember it was 8k for Japan / S. Korea as a big screen high tech demo.
I'd bet it was live in 8K for them. Different audio then we got.
And we got the 4k sloppy seconds.
HD was not done from this 4k.
They had their own different set of HD cameras and master control.
So the USA 4k time delay was just NBC being sloppy and not giving it live.
They easily could have.
The 8K HDR downconvert to 4K HDR was done in real time through a converter box and could have
gone right out to satellite and to us. As they made no money off it they would not waste time improving color, HDR, etc.
They however could have had commercials like they did for the HD early bonus beta test coverage they ran that F'ING sony ad a zillion times. NBC sucked then and still sucks for the Olympics !!! I wish someone else could get the Olympics or just let us buy a direct package straight from the Olympics and give them our money.
Get rid of these terrible announcers NBC forces on us. Wish we had a audio off button for all narration and just hear it like those in the venue. Like you're really there.
What a novel idea. A world with no more bob costas and his ilk.
Anyway, back to ESPN 4K.
I do hope you're 100% right and I'm wrong. If it is Full 4K Native 100% that would be great.
But I'm doubtful that is what were getting.
The No HDR is a very stupid omission however.
Lastly, I can't wait for the 4K HDR 2020 Olympics.
I hope this time it's live in 4K. I'd say a 50/50 chance of this happening with NBC.
Further I've read all the events are 8K HDR in Japan/S. Korea. so maybe DTV, Dish and others will have multiple 4K live feeds/streams for us.
We''ll know next year. Seems they never tell us about 4K until the last moment. But for sure it'll be worth the wait.
It would be so great if we got the 8K feed and were living in a 8K world. The fact we know others are getting this and we can't is disappointing.
But the 4K will look stunning no doubt about it. But will it be LIVE 4K? We'll see.
bjf
to the site !!!!Help, I'm a little confjused on the activation process.
I purchased the Joey 4 from Solid Signal and shipping box has Call 866 726-4282 to Avtivate new Receiver. That number is Solid Signals number.
I googled and that search said call Dish to activate. I assume that is correct unless this requires a 2 step process.
Please let me know.
Thanks
I purchased the Joey 4 from Solid Signal and shipping box has Call 866 726-4282 to Avtivate new Receiver. That number is Solid Signals number.
I googled and that search said call Dish to activate. I assume that is correct unless this requires a 2 step process.
Please let me know.
Thanks
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All good called Dish and new Joey 4 is activated and working.
Old Joey 2 deactivated and no need to return.
Old Joey 2 deactivated and no need to return.
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i bought mine straight from dish as it was only $ 100.00 bucks!!! had the protection plan they came out removed and deactivated the 4k joey and activated and installed the joey 4.All good called Dish and new Joey 4 is activated and working.
Old Joey 2 deactivated and no need to return.
For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. 
WTF… …What the Foxbat!Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat.
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wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming youWTF… …What the Foxbat!
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Apple has finally released their Apple TV 4K with built-in Siri and a microphone so it can respond to your queries even if you don't have the remote. It also increases in price, to $299. I had been planning on updating my current Apple TV 4K streamers, but that's $600 for the two of them, and that's a pass at this point.
At $299, it had better come with 256 GB of Storage, Gigabit (or better) Ethernet, the latest HDMI tech and standards, and one year of free Apple One. But it probably won't…
At $299, it had better come with 256 GB of Storage, Gigabit (or better) Ethernet, the latest HDMI tech and standards, and one year of free Apple One. But it probably won't…
Apple TV 4K
Apple TV 4K. New Siri AI and hands-free control. Stunning picture and immersive HomePod surround sound. Works with your Apple and smart home devices.
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. apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
they all do that anyways.. ever notice your cell phone slows down when you come up for an upgrade..
. apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
The new curated multiview is now live.
While on many of the sports channels and non sports channels there is a multi view option button. It will pull up a side bar with many different multi view options.
While on many of the sports channels and non sports channels there is a multi view option button. It will pull up a side bar with many different multi view options.
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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This thread is a place to discuss the 4K events that appear on channel 540. We are getting, at this point, one college football game a week. Let's hope there is more coming.
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Hmmm, I'm not seeing anything like those events in our Hopper 3 guide for tonight or Saturday.
I went into the Tools menu and requested a Guide Update. I'll try looking at it after the update completes.
edit — I now have the 148-01 4KFox events for Saturday, but not anything for 148-02 or 148-03 which don't even show as available channels. I do have 148-04 4KUSA.
As I recall you have the Flex package. Do you sub to multisport? -02 is FS1 and -03 is ESPN. -01 is Fox so you would get that if you sub to locals.Hmmm, I'm not seeing anything like those events in our Hopper 3 guide for tonight or Saturday.
I went into the Tools menu and requested a Guide Update. I'll try looking at it after the update completes.
edit — I now have the 148-01 4KFox events for Saturday, but not anything for 148-02 or 148-03 which don't even show as available channels. I do have 148-04 4KUSA.
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On Tuesday, I recorded the first episodes of the new season's NCIS shows on CBS (Dish provided, not OTA). The new New York series and Origins will both do Auto Skip, but the original, now season 24 does not. What's stranger, when I do a search for NCIS, Origins and New York show the current recording and the next episode it will record, but the original show only shows the current recording and some other channel showing the very first episode of season one. It makes no sense. When I set up the timers, I was able to use search for Origins and New York, but for the original, I had to scroll ahead in the guide until last Tuesday when the show was airing. Then set the timer from there. You can see its timer type is DVR where the other two are Seek. What am I missing?
Thanks!
Thanks!
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I created this thread on the original Edgecutter Cutting Edge Forums site. It's simply a place for those to review the latest software available for those using Windows 10 and Windows 11. To date it has received 112,559 views. I have been asked by staff to continue this thread here.
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To each there own but I've found that Windows can't do much more than Linux can. Can't have everything.
For niche use cases, yes I agree. Kali for ethical hacking and security testing, and running a Cacti server for network monitoring are the two things I have experience in. Plus thousands and thousands of other things, but for every day use I just can't see it. The owner of the GMRS repeater that I pay to access is changing the Tx DPL tones tomorrow, while Chirp is available on Linux, the software to program my MXT500 is not.To each there own but I've found that Windows can't do much more than Linux can. Can't have everything.
I run Fedora and Ubuntu in VMWare, honestly I don't care much for the UI of either of them and I don't feel like spending days/weeks to customize the UI to make it look Windows-like when I could just use Windows. The cartoonish dock at the bottom of the screen reminds me of Apple products.
As I said above, and, FWIW, I run Win11 Pro and Arch on separate 250 GB NVME drives, using F8 to select which I boot to, with a 1TB SSD for storage, accessible to both OSs and a third formatted Nvme I want to use to learn Kali. It was much faster to setup Arch than it was to strip down Windows. Windows still takes much longer to boot.
