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pgriffy
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I returned to dish about 3 months ago and have a a recurring problem. I've called tech support several times and had a technician out twice now. Sorry for the wall of text that follows, but I come from a technical background and tend to notice things that look out of place from everything around them. Since I don't know alot about this it's likely that none of it is related, but since I've had several people from the "official channels" look at this, parts swapped out, and still the same results and not sounding like they have alot of ideas left, I'm getting worried this is just the 'way it's going to "work"' and that makes me sad.

The problem:
watching one of the two wireless joeys the picture will freeze like pause has been pressed. A couple of seconds later this is followed by a 1553 error on the screen, 10ish seconds more this switches to a 1303 error, few more seconds, back to 1553 and then usually it reconnects and everything works again. When this happens, it happens on BOTH wireless joeys and the hopper is fine. Sometimes it doesn't connect and I have to do the reset wireless on the joeys and push the WPS button on the access point, in those cases most of the time that works. In rare cases nothing works and I have to unplug the power on everything and restart the hopper, then access point, then joeys and it all works again. The whole process takes a couple minutes if it auto reconnects to more than 10 if I have to power everything off and on. It's happening at least once a day sometimes several times and never at any specific time or interval between times.

Tech Visits:
The first tech
replaced the wireless access point, network cable between the access point and hopper, and also said something about some sort of terminators or something that go outside that should only have to do with wired joeys but they were missing so he put them on. What he didn't do was swap out the power supply of the old access point for the new one, but he did leave the new one. I tried hooking up the new one. No change.
The second tech came yesterday and replaced the hopper. If I'm reading the screen right (meaning the history screen/internal resets) it's gone through this 1553/1303 thing 5 times in 12 hours. I'm saying if I'm reading it right because I've looked at this screen after it starts working every time I've actually seen it fail and that number increments each time. Is that an accurate indicator of how many times this is happening or just a coincidence?

Stuff I have tried:
  • replaced ALL of the network cables (WAP to Hopper, Hopper to network switch, network switch to router and even the TV to network switch.
  • verified router was not interfering. it only uses 2.4ghz 5.0 is turned off. changed the channel of the 2.4 just in case.
  • used a wireless scanner to see if any other devices were using 5.0, none found.
  • rerouted / tightened up all power cables to make sure they were seated properly.
  • changed hopper connection from hopper -> network switch -> router to hopper -> router (eliminated the network switch).
  • gave all of the dish equipment (hopper, WAP, Joey's) static DHCP addresses.
  • hooked up wireshark (network packet trace software) to try to capture anything that would indicate what is going on. I haven't used it in a few years, so I'm pretty rusty on this. still wading through the capture I saved after it happened. At first glance it looks like something happens and then a bunch of 169.254.x.x addresses start showing up
  • Calling tech support. Alot. The phone tech support folks are always mystified. The first tech said if it wasn't the WAP it was likely the hopper. The second tech said if it wasn't the hopper he had no idea what it could be.
  • Turned to get info from here.
Where I am now
The second tech did talk to someone on the phone while he was here and said something about software downloading to the joey but not actually installing properly leaving a corrupted file. The first time it stopped working after he left, I documented the settings (like mac address/ip address of all the devices) but I also noticed a couple differences in software and firmware versions of the two joeys since I remembered hearing a corrupted software install could be an issue. Both had a software version of U758 but the date and time following were very different (12/20/19 2:42A and 1/10/20 4:11p) also the transceiver firmware was different (0012 and 0015).

If you've made it this far
Thanks for taking the time to read and hopefully throw out some ideas how to fix this. I'm not sure calling tech support is going to get me anywhere this time since they were kinda at the end of ideas this time. I can also upload the wireshark file if there is a way to do that and anyone cares.
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HipKat
The transceiver software is for the remote. You're not the only one having this issue. Mine has started doing it and my WAP/Hopper is less than 25' from my Wireless Joey. Nothing has changed in 4 years. Sometimes, I'll turn the TV/Joey on in the bedroom and will show Complete Signal Loss and I have to reboot the Hopper and Joey to get it to reconnect. Other times, it's just as fine as ever, as if there's never been a problem. I can only assume this stems from a recent software upgrade on the Hopper, itself.
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pgriffy
Just an update in case anyone is following. Things seemed to have stabilized. There have been about 6 cycles of this since the hopper was replaced.
In the meantime, I've been wading thru the trace file. It looks like some spanning tree packets go thru then:
  1. Joey1 Gets an address of 169.254.28.86
  2. Joey2 Gets an address of 169.254.71.185 a couple hundred packets later
  3. Hopper gets an address of 169.254.194.162 1200ish packets later
  4. Access Point gets an address of 169.254.142.70 35000ish packets later
I stopped the trace before everything started working again, so I don't know how long it took everything to get a real address back again.

The history screen on the diagnostics page was all zero's when I got a new hopper 2 days ago. As of right now,
  • 4 signal resets on the joey1
  • 1 connectivity reset on the hopper
  • 1 front panel reset on hopper
  • internal resets:
  • Joey1 7
  • Hopper 4
  • Joey2 6
everything for the access point is 0
O
I will be interested to see what you find out. I was having similar issues with my wireless joeys. Had a service call, they replaced the Hopper with Sling, checked all cables and connections, signal strength from satellites, checked signal strength on wireless joeys. Did not replace WAP.

A week after the Hopper replacement, it was doing the same thing, WJ's unlinking etc... It seems to have stabilized now and the WJ's seem to be working ok over the last 2 weeks. Not sure what changed. I still have the number for Dish in my wallet in case I need to call for a replacement WAP. They did install a Snap on the HWS when they replaced it. I am still waiting on the next required system reset. My wife has been quite vocal about getting rid of Dish, as "she never had these issues with cable". I cannot seem to explain to her that the Hopper is light years ahead of the cable DVR, she doesn't give a crap about equipment, only that it works when she turns it on.
B
I have had similar issues, but was also wondering about another issue

I have a 2 HWS setup. I have constant trouble with the HWS seeing each others's recorded programs
I have noticed that even though the HWS can't see the other's recording, the wireless joey can
I don't under stand this at all. Seem to me if the HWS that the wireless joey is linked too, can't see the recordings, the joey would be able to either
Ramy
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Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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You mean other than Miami being in the final last year... and Indiana being the only bye team to win a game?
Jimbo
You mean other than Miami being in the final last year... and Indiana being the only bye team to win a game?
No, I was actually referring to outside of the Top 8, but should have been Top 12 ...

I guess I should have looked at the bracket from last year first ...

I'm more thinking about them trying to expect a 15 to beat a 5 seed or there abouts .
Ronnie-
I'm more thinking about them trying to expect a 15 to beat a 5 seed or there abouts .
I mean you get upsets all the time.

Just a couple of weeks ago. Unranked Florida knocked off number 7 texas. Unranked Auburn beat number 1 Georgia.

This week unranked Cincinnati beat number 8 texas Tech. Unranked UCF beat number 2 BYU.

No reason to think similar upsets wont happen in the playoffs where a low seed can upset a higher one.
AZ.
AZ.
I mean you get upsets all the time.

Just a couple of weeks ago. Unranked Florida knocked off number 7 texas. Unranked Auburn beat number 1 Georgia.

This week unranked Cincinnati beat number 8 texas Tech. Unranked UCF beat number 2 BYU.

No reason to think similar upsets wont happen in the playoffs where a low seed can upset a higher one.
Yep, wonder why we rank the top 25 in 2 poles still? Do the ranking change much if they are unranked or have many loses? They sure do, any given day never take your opponent as a cake walk.....
Jimbo
I mean you get upsets all the time.

Just a couple of weeks ago. Unranked Florida knocked off number 7 texas. Unranked Auburn beat number 1 Georgia.

This week unranked Cincinnati beat number 8 texas Tech. Unranked UCF beat number 2 BYU.

No reason to think similar upsets wont happen in the playoffs where a low seed can upset a higher one.
Correct, you Do get upsets from time to time ....however .
You Don't get teams UPSETTING teams for 5 weeks in a row.

They are trying to make this Basketball and its a far cry from the way that is played.

How long till they go to 32 teams ? Then they will say, well, the NFL is 32 teams, we can make more money that way .... except the NFL is 32 teams, that are a set number of teams and divisions, you don't have that in College ... oh but they will try.

They would have to choose what teams they would want in and thats it.
Hopefully that NEVER happens.

I can see the NCAA going away and the CFP taking that portion over and a Collective Bargaining agreement coming in the not to distant future.
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rvvaquero
The problem with rankings and playoffs is that they are designed to hype the game and make money. Period.

The only reason that BYU and Texas Tech were upsets is that they were hyped up in the standings in the first place. I love watching BYU and Bear Bachmeier. They are a fun and talented team, but not nearly so strong, fast, big, and skilled as a true top ten team. Does anyone truly believe they could compete with the likes of Georgia, Ohio State, Indiana, Alabama, etc.? Yet, they were ranked above those teams.

Each year, there are 10 to 12 teams who truly could compete for the championship if it depended on winning more than one game in a playoff. Including teams like James Madison, Tulane, BYU, etc. in a playoff has nothing to do with determining a national champion. It's just about money.
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Ronnie-
Correct, you Do get upsets from time to time ....however .
Yes. As show.


You Don't get teams UPSETTING teams for 5 weeks in a row.

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But that wasn't what your stated argument was though.


I mean if you drag it out, no team even a favorite is gonna win every game 20 weeks in a row.


With the parity in college football now, who knows who can beat anyone at any given time?

This season and last have shown it might not be the ones we think that might win it all that will win it all.
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Last reply · posted in Over the Air Television By RabbitEars.Info
Interesting article about the work being done to develope an ATSC 3 converter box. Yes it does mention affordable.
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primestar31
DEATH TO NEXGEN!
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It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.

There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.
Mister B
What bothers me is the total waste of broadcasting spectrum in this very crowded market. It has been almost three years now since KFOX converted their broadcast tower to ATSC 3.0 and moved all of their channels to other towers causing noticeable degradation of the picture quality.
I have a Sony TV with 3.0 capabilities but still use the 1.0 version of locals due to the fact that one or all of the 3.0 channels are often missing or unwatchable. In this city of 800K I doubt that more than a few hundred even know about ATSC 3.0.
The only thing that could motivate me to be interested in 3.0 would be if all of the minor networks (diginets) could be in at least 720P rather than blurry ultra-compressed 480i.
Three years is long enough to waste one of the few available RF frequencies in the area for this trial.
It is time to either move on with this experiment or call it quits.
navychop
In this city of 800K I doubt that more than a few hundred even know about ATSC 3.0.

They might notice the hand going into their pocket for their wallet.
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navychop
It is time to either move on with this experiment or call it quits.

QFT. Of course, my preference involves a curb and some kicking.
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It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.

There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.
WHAT ABOUT THE INTERNET PART OF IT. NO ONE WANTS A BOX CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET EITHER.
navychop
Cough, cough. COVID vaccine implants.

:oldlaugh
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Cough, cough. COVID vaccine implants.

:oldlaugh
That would be handy. Download the latest RNA snippets that can be updated over 5G and no more shots! You're a Genius!
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Meta Clickbait, clicking and watching the Video on Clickbait.
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RIP dude. Always liked his music. He was 83


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH5Arbm47IQ
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R.I.P.
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R.I.P.
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Rest in Peace…
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FTA4PA
R.I.P.
dishstaller
My Mom was a huge McMillan & Wife fan.

RIP
dfergie
Mcmillan and wife was where I remember her from, R.I.P. ...
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R.I.P.
Foxbat
Rest in Peace… I had forgotten she was Kate in "Kate and Allie", teamed with Jane Curtin.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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If Love Must Go - Dobie Gray
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Drift Away - Dobie Gray
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Throwing It All Away - Genesis
dishstaller
All I Need is a Miracle - Mike + The Mechanics
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Sweet Miracle - Rush
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Apple Fall Hardware Event takes place today, September 9, 2026, at 10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET. It marks the debut of new CEO John Ternus and the expected reveal of Apple's first foldable phone.
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Foxbat
IFixIt has published their Teardown and they had some positive things to say about the iPhone Duo. It still showed some dust ingress into the hinge assembly but seemed otherwise well-sealed.
​

But with a considerable number of reports of the main screen dying with similar failures, AppleCare+ should be a no-brainer for this phone.
S
IFixIt has published their Teardown and they had some positive things to say about the iPhone Duo. It still showed some dust ingress into the hinge assembly but seemed otherwise well-sealed.
​

But with a considerable number of reports of the main screen dying with similar failures, AppleCare+ should be a no-brainer for this phone.

hope you have apple care a screen job is 1000.00 :oops:. can we say over priced garbage!!!
harshness
Gone are the days when Apple "perfects" what debuted years earlier on an Android phone.
comfortably_numb
Gone are the days when Apple "perfects" what debuted years earlier on an Android phone.

Or better yet, innovate something "completely revolutionary!"
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I was bewildered with all the new DISH TV "Bonus View" channels, so I put together a web page table with all the info I could find. It's at:

https://anythingpeaceful.org/dishtv/DISH_TV_Bonus_View_Channels.html

Here's a partial screenshot of the table, as sorted by Channel Name. (You can click on a column header to sort.)

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If you have any corrections or suggestions, please post here.
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Paranormal Files back in business:

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T
Two new Bonus View channels Added today:

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And two Removed:

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My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels

Thanks to Pat for the heads up.
T
One Bonus View channel added today. And one correction (on my part):

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One Removed:

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My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels

BTW, not a Bonus View item, but there was a temporary channel 304 Spooktacular added, I imagine just for the Halloween season.

Thanks again to Pat for the many tips.
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Three new Bonus View channels today:

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My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels

As always, thanks to Pat for the tips.
T
Four Bonus View channels removed today:

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Van
Last reply · posted in What's Cooking?
Who says dinner or lunch has to be the only good meals of the day?

Honey butter grits with scrambled eggs and grilled boneless pork ribs on flakey biscuits washed down with cranberry juice.
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TRG
TRG
2 egg burrito with bacon and a side of hashbrowns. Coffee.

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TRG
TRG
Breakfast Quesadillas. Grilled flour tortilla filled with scrambled eggs, hash browns, chopped green chile, cheddar & Jack cheese and bacon. Coffee.

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Bobby
Taco omelette. 3 eggs, taco meat from yesterday, diced green chilis, cheddar cheese, chopped red onion, avocado, black olives, chopped tomato, La Victoria Salsa Brava.

This one was really, really good!
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Thought I was getting a Chorizo and egg burrito (marker had rubbed off)but was a roast beef/potato I made up before hunting this morning.
Btw every morning at camp I cooked my homemade Chorizo and scrambled eggs plus sausage side while my brother brought bacon. (they liked both the beef and pork versions)
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Thought I was getting a Chorizo and egg burrito (marker had rubbed off)but was a roast beef/potato I made up before hunting this morning.
Btw every morning at camp I cooked my homemade Chorizo and scrambled eggs plus sausage side while my brother brought bacon. (they liked both the beef and pork versions)
I had a chorizo and egg burrito for you. With lots of green chile and cheese of course.
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