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Next question: Harmony remotes operate both current HWS. Harmony Hub in the Family Room and 880 in MBR. FR will be getting the H3 and MBR will be getting a 4K Joey. So will my remotes work the same with this equipment or am I going to have to reprogram them to the new equipment?

david_jr said:

Next question: Harmony remotes operate both current HWS. Harmony Hub in the Family Room and 880 in MBR. FR will be getting the H3 and MBR will be getting a 4K Joey. So will my remotes work the same with this equipment or am I going to have to reprogram them to the new equipment?

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They will work the same. Just be sure to enable IR on the new receivers.

Had my install this morning. LOVE the new equipment. Noticeably faster and more responsive and probably just my imagination, picture seems just a tad better. Installer was very good. Neat, explained everything he was doing before he did it. We were both masked for the entire visit. Was a little nervous when I woke up to what looked like a blizzard going on outside. Turned out was just a squall left about an inch. By the time he had to climb up onto my roof it was mostly melted. I got the most knowledgeable satellite customer he has ever met award. I tried to sell him on Sat Guys he had never heard of it. He said he would try to remember to check it out. One thing I overlooked in getting ready and prepping for the install was snaking another 4K HDMI cable from my equipment closet down to my Sony 4K in the family room below. Luckily 2 of my boys were home due to the virus so we knocked it out without slowing the install down. Involved taking the 65 Sony down off the wall to get behind it. He installed a new dish and LNB on my existing arm. He said he got signals in the 60's on 72 and 61.5 which he thought was great. He also replaced my duo node on my equipment panel with a Hybrid Solo Hub, which is MUCH smaller. He seemed to fly through the setup at each location methodically going through the steps, downloading software and setting up the remotes. I bought 3 HDMI cables and a power strip surge suppressor from him since he did such a good job and I know that's the only way they make any money. Also gave him a tip, which he didn't want to take. I insisted and he said, "Only if you're sure." I said I was sure and that he had one a great job and he took it. Replaced a dish, 2 HWS and 1 Joey with 1 H3 and 2 4K Joeys and on the road in about 3.5 HRS. He took the old equipment with him and did not ask for my 40 remotes back, which I appreciated. I already filled out his survey and gave him all top marks.

First impression of the H3 very similar to HWS. Looks a little bit sleeker and more modern. Mine is in a closet so doesn't really matter and I won't miss the recording light (sorry navychop). My USB 3.0 EHD from my HWS was recognized right away and was a breeze to operate. Seems a bit faster and more responsive than it did with the HWS. The 4K Joeys are really sleek looking. It has a slightly smaller footprint than and is about a third of the thickness of my small Sony Blu Ray Player it sits on in my bedroom. In the kitchen, my old Joey was mounted to the back of my 32 inch Samsung TV on the counter. I am going to have to do some surgery to get the same setup with the 4K-J. It only has 2 mounting holes on the back instead of 4 and does not have a stand that it sits in, which made the old Joey a breeze to mount. I attached a picture of the old Joey mounted on my TV. I will figure something out though I am sure. One thing that was disappointing that I was not able to restore my timers from my old 40 remotes. I thought they were automagically backed up at intervals, but on all three TV's using the old remotes no joy on restoring the timers. I guess you have to manually backup timers to the remote? Bobby was right about the Harmony remotes. 880 no changes at all in the MBR. Only thing I had to do with the Harmony Hub in the Family Room was change the Watch TV activity because we will now be using a different input on the TV. The only other thing going on is that my AVR in the Family Room does not Pass 4K being a 2011 Denon. Had to run an optical digital cable from the H3 to the AVR. Luckily I had several in my box of old AV "stuff." So now I have 2 4K sources in the FR that I can't switch with the AVR and can't see on screen displays for volume, etc., making it a bit clunky to switch between them. Have already planted the seed in Momma's mind about the need to "upgrade" to a 4K capable AVR. Told her we could move the old Denon to the MBR instead of buying a new one like we had planned for there previously. I think she's coming around and might be on board. We'll have to see what happens when we get our tax return. My only other thought is that for a "free" upgrade to H3, since they killed the HWS with the carbon "upgrade", this really was a NO BRAINER!!

You can restore them, they timers are on there, It usually takes a while before the restore will go through. Just give it another shot today. I do it all the time. BTW, brilliant mount on that Joey. I never thought of that before!

I will give it another shot today thanks. Also got my kitchen 4K Joey remounted. Had to do some minor surgery on my mount, but I think it came out ok.