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Recording from live TV

Hi everyone, I am a new Dish subscriber after years of being with AT&t U-verse and DirecTV. With my prior provider, if I was watching live television and I hit the record button, it would back the recording to the time that I first turned on that channel or at least back an hour or so. I'm noticing with Dish that it only starts recording the minute that I press the button even if I've been watching that channel for an extended period of time. Is there a way around this to get to the prior part of the program recorded?
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Radioguy41
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It might depend on what specific equipment you have but here's how I do it on my VIP211k. I hit the Back button and take it back to the beginning of the show, then hit Record and it starts recording from the beginning.
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Radioguy41 said:
It might depend on what specific equipment you have but here's how I do it on my VIP211k. I hit the Back button and take it back to the beginning of the show, then hit Record and it starts recording from the beginning.
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Yes, the only drawback when you do that is that it then records the entire buffer from that point all the way up to Live TV. So, if you rewind one hour back, and you only want to record the first half-hour, it will still record the entire hour immediately as soon as you hit the record button. It would be nice if you could use the stop button when it reaches the end of what you want to record, so it would only record exactly what you want. Alternatively, it would be nice to have a way to edit the DVR events after they are recorded, to remove any section that you don't want, and save hard drive space that way.
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Recording Live TV in progress should (and does, for me with H3 and even legacy DishPro models) work like this:

1. If you have been tuned to the Live channel since BEFORE the current program started (as in you first tuned to the channel with a show, and then later that show ended and another new show started), pressing the REC button will save and record the ENTIRE newly started program--from its beginning--From any place in the show BEFORE it ends, provided you were tuned to that show BEFORE it started on that same channel. This means the entire buffer containing that current show airing will be saved in its entirety.

2. If you have tuned to a channel with a show already in progress, then pressing the record button will save a recording ONLY from the moment you press the record button. In other words, if you tune to a show already in progress and wait, say, 10 minutes before you press the Record button, then you will ONLY get a recording from the moment you pressed record and the previous ten minutes buffer is purged and NOT saved as part of the recording.

3. If you have tuned to a show already in progress, and watch that show for some time before realizing that you would like to save the content you've already watched along with the remainder of the show, then you can REW back as little (say you just want to save as far back as a few minutes before, but not more than that because you just want to pick up where you left off for later viewing and don't need the entire buffer of what you've already watched) or as far back as the entire buffer, and then press Record. That will save the a recording from the point you have REW to--including the entire buffer if you REW all the way to when you can REW no further--and to the end of the scheduled show time. *Remember, if you were already tuned to that channel BEFORE that show began, then just press RECORD (as stated in #1), and that will save the entire program. You don't need to monkey around getting REW to just the right spot that is the start of the show.

4. If you tune to a show already in progress, and you would like to see in its entirety, rather then a sloppy or incomplete recording, look for the message on the bottom right of the screen that states, "Press Select to see this show from the beginning," and press SELECT while the message is still displayed, and you are offered either the entire show as a (free) VOD or a list of repeat broadcasts ("Showtimes" button will present a list of subsequent showtimes of the same episode for recording) of the very same show episode or both VOD and later broadcasts in the next 7-8 days. You chose which you prefer (I often pick BOTH--one at a time--VOD and later repeat broadcast to cover my bases). Also, if easier or you miss the message to watch from the beginning, you can press the INFO button and you should see some options near the left bottom that often (but not always) include VOD or repeat broadcasts as options so that you can see the entire episode from the beginning. Of course, you just move the on-screen selector onto a the list of repeat broadcasts and select the one you want to record and the timer is set automatically. The list will include if the showing is in HD or SD and on WHICH channel because a few channels are offered in both HD and SD such as Disney Channel and the premium movie channels.

There are a few times when the VOD option for a show/episode is not offered in the INFO screen or via message, but if you manually search the VOD, that episode is, INDEED, available to VOD. It is an annoying quirk of the Dish VOD, so don't assume that just because it is not listed as on option in the INFO screen that is isn't truly listed and available on VOD.

5. Lastly, if you tune to a show or series already in progress and there are no other options to view from the beginning (VOD or later repeat broadcasts), then I just select "Record Seires" from the INFO screen in case the show airs after the 7-8 EPG period, and often it records the same show/episode fairly soon, but there are a few times when that show/episode may not air for weeks or even months, but the DVR records it for me to watch from the beginning. Also, the VOD library may add that show/episode some days or weeks later from when you first viewed the live broadcast in progress, so keep checking/search VOD persistently.

I often use #4 because I don't always know in the first few minutes if I want to see a show in its entirety when I channel browse, but I always take a notice of the "Start from the beginning" on-screen message.

I hope that makes sense. There are a lot of things the Hopper or other Dish DVR's do that are not documented because features are added over time and known mostly to power users. Good luck.
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Yes, the only drawback when you do that is that it then records the entire buffer from that point all the way up to Live TV. So, if you rewind one hour back, and you only want to record the first half-hour, it will still record the entire hour immediately as soon as you hit the record button. It would be nice if you could use the stop button when it reaches the end of what you want to record, so it would only record exactly what you want. Alternatively, it would be nice to have a way to edit the DVR events after they are recorded, to remove any section that you don't want, and save hard drive space that way.
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I was wondering that you seem to post a reply in almost every post. Are you trying to get some record or fame by replying to every message . Do you happen to work for Echostar to be considered a Dish expert?. How about turning your computer off and enjoy some television. Maybe it's me but it's rather annoying to see you in every post.
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ty1273 said:
I was wondering that you seem to post a reply in almost every post. Are you trying to get some record or fame by replying to every message . Do you happen to work for Echostar to be considered a Dish expert?. How about turning your computer off and enjoy some television. Maybe it's me but it's rather annoying to see you in every post.
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I recommend the "ignore" feature... Though I would never ignore crodrules. :D
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TheKrell said:
I recommend the "ignore" feature... Though I would never ignore crodrules. :D
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Where did that come from? A lot of these posts don't even get responses. You keep right on answering, Crodrules [emoji38]

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Wow, I was not expecting to be so entertained when I came to this thread today. :oldlaugh


ty1273 said:
I was wondering that you seem to post a reply in almost every post. Are you trying to get some record or fame by replying to every message . Do you happen to work for Echostar to be considered a Dish expert?. How about turning your computer off and enjoy some television. Maybe it's me but it's rather annoying to see you in every post.
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I hope I am not annoying you by quoting your message. :p I post the reply (quote) box in almost every post, just to make it clear which post I am responding to, even if it is the post directly above mine. This board can get quite busy, so quite often someone else may slip in another post before I am done typing my reply. I could hardly say that I reply to every message. Not by a long shot. However, once I take an interest in a thread, I will continue to reply to new messages in that thread as long as there are still new posts to respond to, or I will post any new observations I have on the topic until I get bored with the thread. I actually did do some work for Dish for more than a couple of years. (For clarity, Echostar has long since been spun off as a separate company.) It is people like you who make me want to turn my computer off for awhile. I do not come here to be called out by a brand new member with only one post, who just joined today. Really??? Your sole reason for becoming a member of this site was so that you could post how annoyed you get when you read my posts?! :imshocked :wtf2 Well, whatever floats your boat. :wave :oldsmile2
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When it comes to recording Live TV already in progress old habits are hard to break. Instead of trying DishSubLA's technique of hitting record from where I was in the program to capture all of it, I rewound to the beginning and hit record. I think DishSubLA's method would have been easier. Hopefully I will be able to do it next time.
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1. If you have been tuned to the Live channel since BEFORE the current program started (as in you first tuned to the channel with a show, and then later that show ended and another new show started), pressing the REC button will save and record the ENTIRE newly started program--from its beginning--From any place in the show BEFORE it ends, provided you were tuned to that show BEFORE it started on that same channel. This means the entire buffer containing that current show airing will be saved in its entirety.
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This is a really great trick. I did not know about this trick and I am learning it.

Today, I recorded the show that just ended on the channel that I was watching live and the trick did not work on the current program. In my mind I was watching the channel with the new program live since BEFORE the program started, but the recording of the previous show that just ended on this channel that I was watching live recorded the beginning of the current live show. This happened to me twice.

Maybe I could change the default recording perimeters so that the recording of the the previous program doesn't record the first of the current program to remedy this but I doubt it?

I loved the feature where the DVR in the VIP receivers could be rewound and record from the point that you activate recording in the previous program after the new program starts. The Hopper 3 cannot be rewound and record from any point that you activate recording in the previous program after a new program starts:(.

Recording live TV is an interesting phenomena:).
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This is a really great trick. I did not know about this trick and I am learning it.

Today, I recorded the show that just ended on the channel that I was watching live and the trick did not work on the current program. In my mind I was watching the channel with the new program live since BEFORE the program started, but the recording of the previous show that just ended on this channel that I was watching live recorded the beginning of the current live show. This happened to me twice.

Maybe I could change the default recording perimeters so that the recording of the the previous program doesn't record the first of the current program to remedy this but I doubt it?

I loved the feature where the DVR in the VIP receivers could be rewound and record from the point that you activate recording in the previous program after the new program starts. The Hopper 3 cannot be rewound and record from any point that you activate recording in the previous program after a new program starts:(.

Recording live TV is an interesting phenomena:).
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Unless I misunderstood your reply: If you wait until AFTER the new show starts, then the entire program of ONLY that recently started new show (having pressed REC at any point in the program) will be saved--NOT ANY PORTION of the just ended program. So, if you are tuned to a program that is ending, and then the NEW show starts, then if you want to save ALL of the new show, you must press RECORD any time BEFORE that new show ends, otherwise, if you wati unit AFTER the new show ends, you have MISSED your opportunity to use the "trick" of just pressing RECORD. In that case, you will have to REW all the way back to the start of the program and then press record to save the entire show--remembering that the buffer is only 60 minutes, so you may miss the first few seconds or so of the show for recording. I hope that clears things up, if I understood your reply.
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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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This Web Vulnerability Shook the Tech World

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2QtsO2mlXM


Direct YouTube Link - This Web Vulnerability Shook the Tech World
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All DMA's now Western Arc

I know HipKat said that they were working on conversions but we got the official news yesterday right from Dish that starting next month all DMA's will be on the western arc, and all customers will be assigned to that. That's gonna mean a lot of customers around here aren't gonna get Dish unless there are exceptions. Too many mountains and trees.
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Unless Dish acquires DirecTV and its mid-USA satellite slots, I may not have Dish Network to reach 40 years. Or, I guess we could buy a new house…
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Unless Dish acquires DirecTV and its mid-USA satellite slots, I may not have Dish Network to reach 40 years. Or, I guess we could buy a new house…
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have charlie buy you a new house :biggrin :clapping
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Well, I didn't immediately think of broadcast, where there are all kinds of digital "subchannels"- I remember back when digital broadcast began that supposedly the 6mhz channel would likely support just 1 HD program and that the added subchannels would likely have to remain SD. I don't watch enough broadcast to know. Are there a lot of the subchannels in SD-only, and how do they do that, like are they in 4:3 or some kind of low-res widescreen?
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slow_poke_pete said:
have charlie buy you a new house :biggrin :clapping
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Unfortunately, I don't think my social proximity to Charle Ergen provides any special perks. Maybe if Foxbat, Jr. were to marry his daughter…🤞🏻🤣
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Unfortunately, I don't think my social proximity to Charle Ergen provides any special perks. Maybe if Foxbat, Jr. were to marry his daughter…🤞🏻🤣
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that would be one hell of a convo :biggrin.
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telstar_1 said:
Well, I didn't immediately think of broadcast, where there are all kinds of digital "subchannels"- I remember back when digital broadcast began that supposedly the 6mhz channel would likely support just 1 HD program and that the added subchannels would likely have to remain SD. I don't watch enough broadcast to know. Are there a lot of the subchannels in SD-only, and how do they do that, like are they in 4:3 or some kind of low-res widescreen?
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New more efficient encoders. I think there's around 60 channels/sub channels now in the Tulsa dma. 480 widescreen for most of the sub channels, but some have 2 HD channels and a couple of SD sub channels while others have 1 HD and 5 or more SD sub channels. If they moved to mp4 or hevc encoding they could do higher bitrates for SD or more HD or even 4K in that 6Mhz channel. That could render some early digital tvs unable to tune though as they may not have the codecs for that. Considering 4K tvs have been on sale for years, I think it would be a very small minority of TVs with the problem. I'd rather see that happen and keep ATSC 1 than continue the move to a DRM enforced ATSC 3 world.
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Is Roku the new Legacy Cable?

The title was to catch everyone's eye lol! But it is a thought I've been having as I dev a Roku app for a client. You see many MAAANY years ago I got really interested in cable TV channels and even chatted with a regional carrier, Insight about what it took to get a channel number. It was surprisingly easy although prohibitively expensive.



You could petition, reserve a high channel number, they monitored performance and if they liked you, you'd get lower channel number overtime and cut into ad overlays.



Roku has a similar setup. Make an app, if it has a strong, original linear component you could get channel assignment on The Roku Channel.



As mixed as my feelings are on the current media landscape, I can't help but feel a little excited interest when I scope out the apps in the Roku store.
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Hmmm. I think Roku will last. But will Firestick? With their backing, I guess so. Apple TV STB? Of Course. Walmart? Seems someone ought to go, but with their backing?….

Off brands have, as probably expected, very short lives.
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navychop said:
Hmmm. I think Roku will last. But will Firestick? With their backing, I guess so. Apple TV STB? Of Course. Walmart? Seems someone ought to go, but with their backing?….

Off brands have, as probably expected, very short lives.
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All of those services have FAST Channels. FAST is a linear online broadcast stndrd. You notice how their linear channels all have some overlap? They are gettting paid for every second those streams are up without really having to do their own accounting. Best part is they don't even facilitate any of the stream bandwidth. Over glorified app stores on some android hardware. No reason NOT to stay in the game.
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Star Trek: Starfleet Academy - Paramount+

Season 2 order already in hand:

'Star Trek: Starfleet Academy' Renewed for Season 2, Tatiana Maslany to Guest Star in Season 1

I've not been optimistic about this show based on what I've read so far. Seems to be aimed at a younger audience. Interesting though that Tatiana Maslany will have some sort of role.
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Females wearing any clothing is unthinkable on Ferenginar.
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harshness said:
Females wearing any clothing is unthinkable on Ferenginar.
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Was never a huge of the Ferengi-centric episodes in Trek...
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Was never a huge of the Ferengi-centric episodes in Trek...
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Me either ...
They turned out to be a Poor adversary ....
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They got their proper due on "Deep Space Nine"
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They got their proper due on "Deep Space Nine"
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Its crazy how the ViP922 is so rare for no reason.

Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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I looked for wrecked trains on ebay and those are hard to find too!
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I remember this in the news too...

www.nbcnews.com

$14,000 spent on rented rotary phone

A widow rented a rotary dial telephone for 42 years, paying what her family calculates as more than $14,000 for a now- outdated phone.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com
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Almighty1 said:
I remember this in the news too...

www.nbcnews.com

$14,000 spent on rented rotary phone

A widow rented a rotary dial telephone for 42 years, paying what her family calculates as more than $14,000 for a now- outdated phone.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com
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That is a misnomer. In the old days you subscribed to telephone service. That included the telephone line and one telephone. An extension cost $1 a month extra. So that $14,000 over 42 years was for the service not the leased telephone. There is no way they paid $28 a month for 42 years for a leased telephone.
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SuperDish_Fan23 said:
Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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Whoever still has their 922, please let me know i just wanna see photos of the ui and other stuff
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SuperDish_Fan23 said:
Whoever still has their 922, please let me know i just wanna see photos of the ui and other stuff
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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wL6dsORmXg
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Bobby said:
That is a misnomer. In the old days you subscribed to telephone service. That included the telephone line and one telephone. An extension cost $1 a month extra. So that $14,000 over 42 years was for the service not the leased telephone. There is no way they paid $28 a month for 42 years for a leased telephone.
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Good point as part of that time mentioned was before I was even alive.

While reports from the family's case focused entirely on the equipment rental charges, media records show that Ester Strogen originally started by paying $29.95 per quarter ($9.98 per month) in the 1960s for her combined telephone connection.
The actual base cost for standard residential telephone service over a 42-year period (spanning roughly 1964 to 2006) reveals how basic connection costs evolved compared to the equipment rental fees:

Historical Phone Service Rates
  • 1960s – 1970s Base Rate: Standard local phone service was heavily subsidized and tightly regulated under the Bell System monopoly. A basic landline package with unlimited local calling typically cost between $5.00 and $10.00 per month.
  • 1980s – 2000s Post-Deregulation Rate: Following the AT&T divestiture in 1984, base line service rates steadily climbed due to the introduction of subscriber line charges, touch-tone fees, and local infrastructure adjustments. By 2006, basic flat-rate local residential phone service hovered around $15.00 to $25.00 per month (excluding long-distance packages and taxes).
The True Lifetime Service Bill

Assuming an average baseline connection fee of roughly $12.00 a month over that 42-year span, the line connectivity itself would have realistically accumulated to approximately $6,000 in raw cash payouts.
When you bundle the actual service costs together with the escalating equipment rental fees, the total cumulative out-of-pocket phone expenses over those four decades easily crossed $12,000 to $14,000. Long-distance phone calls—which were billed entirely by the minute back then and could cost up to 15 to 30 cents per minute—would add significantly more to that historical total depending on usage.

The widely publicized calculation stems from a viral news story from 2006 involving a widow named Ester Strogen. Her family discovered she had been continuously leasing two rotary dial telephones from AT&T for 42 years.
The total cost—which actually came out to more than $14,000 by the time the lease was canceled—was calculated based on the following legacy telecom structure:
  • The Monthly Fee: At the time her granddaughters discovered the charges, the ongoing leasing fee was $29.10 per month for the two outdated phones.
  • The Math: Over 42 years (504 months), paying roughly $24 to $30 a month accumulates to between $12,000 and $14,600 ($29.10 × 504 months = $14,666.40).
Why did this happen?
Prior to the landmark breakup of AT&T ("Ma Bell") in 1984, consumers were legally not allowed to own their phones; they were required to lease them directly from the phone company.
When the laws changed and phone ownership became legal, AT&T spun off its rental division into a company called QLT Consumer Lease Services. Millions of customers, particularly elderly individuals who were used to seeing a single unified phone bill, simply never realized that the small recurring "equipment lease" line-item could be canceled by buying a cheap phone at a retail store.

Yes, leasing absolutely cost that much in reality, and the math is entirely accurate. However, the calculations performed by the family did contain one major historical nuance: they multiplied the final 2006 rate across all 42 years, which means the actual total cash paid out was likely a bit lower.
The original viral story focused on 82-year-old widow Ester Strogen from Canton, Ohio, who paid $29.10 a month for two black rotary phones until her family intervened in July 2006.
The reality behind how the cost reached that staggering total breaks down into two distinct phases:

Phase 1: The Historical Base Rate (1960s – 1984)

When Strogen first got the phones in the 1960s, renting was a legal mandate and cost a fraction of the 2006 price—usually just a few dollars a month.
  • The "Insurance" Mirage: In exchange for that fee, Ma Bell promised free, lifetime maintenance. If the phone broke, they replaced it instantly at no extra cost.
  • The Cost-Plus Reality: Because these solid-state phones were built like tanks out of heavy plastic and steel, they almost never broke. Consumers paid a continuous premium for decades for a repair service they rarely used.
Phase 2: The Deregulation Rate Hikes (1984 – 2006)

After AT&T was forced to break up its monopoly in 1984, the rental side of the business was shifted to Lucent Technologies and later a legacy holding company. To maximize profit off a shrinking customer base, they steadily increased the monthly rental fees over the next 20 years.
  • By 2006, the rental cost had quietly ballooned to roughly $14.55 per phone per month.
  • When the family discovered the $29.10 monthly charge, they looked back at the 42-year span and estimated the collective loss at over $14,000.
Even adjusted for historical inflation—where $2 a month in 1964 had the purchasing power of roughly $20 today—Ester Strogen and hundreds of thousands of other elderly Americans realistically paid thousands of dollars out-of-pocket for standard desk phones they could have purchased at retail for $10.

The exact out-of-pocket dollar amount Ester Strogen paid over those 42 years was never publicly determined, as neither AT&T nor the family had access to monthly billing records stretching all the way back to the 1960s.
The figures reported in the media are entirely mathematical estimates based on the 2006 rate. The two primary numbers used to define the "cost" are:
  • The Stated Media Total: More than $14,000.
  • The Exact Family Formula: $14,666.40. This was derived by taking her final recorded bill of $29.10 per month and multiplying it across the full 42 years (504 months).
What the True Cash Cost Likely Was

Because AT&T did not charge $29.10 a month back in 1964, the true historical cash sum she handed over was lower than $14,000. In the 1960s and 1970s, basic phone lease fees were generally bundled into standard service or itemized at just $1.00 to $2.00 a month per phone.
If we realistically assume she paid lower base rates for the first 20 years before the post-1984 deregulation price hikes took effect, a realistic estimate of the actual cash paid is between $5,000 and $7,000.

The Real Cost When Adjusted for Inflation

While the family's $14,000 calculation overestimates the raw cash paid, it actually underestimates the true economic damage when factoring in the time value of money.
Paying $2.00 a month for equipment in 1964 sounds minor, but due to severe inflation during the 1970s, those early single dollars had the purchasing power of roughly $20.00 each in 2006 terms. If you adjust every historical lower monthly payment upward to account for inflation, Ester Strogen realistically lost the equivalent of well over $15,000 in modern purchasing power by renting instead of buying.
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Slicker guides never did much for me
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me either. sometimes it seems like things disappear when they start changing sh*t around :biggrin
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I looked for wrecked trains on ebay and those are hard to find too!
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Channels on DIRECTV Satellite and not on Stream/Internet

So...DirecTV advertises the Choice package with 95+ bonus channels for Satellite customers. You don't want 90+ of the 95...

Excluding PPV, premium networks, infomercial, shopping, religion, and non-English programming, there are 7 channels on satellite that are not on streaming:
NFL Network, MavTV, FE TV, Free Speech, NASA, INSP, and Pursuit. I'm pretty sure a couple of those are public interest that they have to carry to meet an FCC quota on satellite.

I hope they get called out for this advertising because that is ridiculous. One big network, NFL, will probably get added to streaming when their next agreement comes up, and the rest are likely very low viewership.

What about streaming, what do you get extra with the Choice package that isn't on Satellite:
Two stations - one of which is an internet TV - Fox Weather, and Heros & Icons (a diginet). Nothing special here to look at either.

If they cleaned up a couple of their agreements, added a few public interest stations to streaming, they could probably have their lineups match. It's close now, if you take out all the garbage on satellite that they earn money on. If they can sell infomercials on satellite, why can't they on streaming, seems like a miss. A bigger miss, including those stations in the "bonus channels just for satellite customers." Pretty sad marketing right there.

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Attached is a comparison sheet of satellite vs streaming for the three main packages if anyone is interested.

MOD EDIT: See Post #3 for an up to date list of what channels are available on sat but not on streaming/internet, see Post #21 for an up to date list of what's available in the app for streaming customers, but not for sat customers.
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WNPX/28 Nashville (The new home of the Predators) and WMYD/20 Detroit (the new home of the Pistons) are testing on the stream server.
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One might get the impression that what DIRECTV does, or doesn't, is becoming far less consequential than it used to be.
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WPLG/10 Miami is now available to stream customers

The CW stations WCWW/25 South Bend and WBKP/5 Marquette are testing on the stream server

Last week they also added a bunch of CW stations that are still not available to sat customers:
WETM-DT/19 Elmira
WJET-DT/25 Erie
KLFY-DT/11 Lafayette LA
KARD-DT/15 Monroe
WVBT-DT/44 Norfolk
WTWO-DT/3 Terre Haute
WFXV-DT/34 Utica
KFDX-DT/4 Wichita Falls
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Well, that was fast ! DTV Stream brought back WTCN's HD signal today.

I have to assume the station signing up a week ago as the Miami Heat affiliate here (to carry their games) did the trick. NBA magic !!!

Or the station engineer took care of the problem after hearing about it.
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WNPX/28 Nashville (The new home of the Predators) and WMYD/20 Detroit (the new home of the Pistons) are testing on the stream server.
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Channel 28 Nashville hasn't been added so far, correct?
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WNPX Nashville and WMYD Detroit were added to stream about 2 months ago.

They also now have PRDTRS/651 for those in Predators territory outside of the Nashville DMA and PISTONS/663-2 for those in Pistons territory outside of the Detroit DMA.
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Apple Event September 2026

Apple Fall Hardware Event takes place today, September 9, 2026, at 10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET. It marks the debut of new CEO John Ternus and the expected reveal of Apple's first foldable phone.
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Can't remember if I've posted this yet..


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfL5seXJyWU
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If you ponied up for an iPhone Duo, keep it away from anything other than your soft, fleshy fingertips. No fingernails, no dust, sand, dirt, or other particulate matter. And don't bend it more than it needs to. Zack has destroyed $2,000 of Apple hardware to get those views, which should cover his expenses.
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No fingernails, no dust, sand, dirt, or other particulate matter
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And definitely no medieval chain armor!
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medieval chain armor
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Aka "mail" or "maille".
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IFixIt has published their Teardown and they had some positive things to say about the iPhone Duo. It still showed some dust ingress into the hinge assembly but seemed otherwise well-sealed.
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But with a considerable number of reports of the main screen dying with similar failures, AppleCare+ should be a no-brainer for this phone.
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Can't remember if I've posted this yet..


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most carriers do. that's why they send updates that slow phones down!! i buy unlocked phones no effect to me
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IFixIt has published their Teardown and they had some positive things to say about the iPhone Duo. It still showed some dust ingress into the hinge assembly but seemed otherwise well-sealed.
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But with a considerable number of reports of the main screen dying with similar failures, AppleCare+ should be a no-brainer for this phone.
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hope you have apple care a screen job is 1000.00 :oops:. can we say over priced garbage!!!
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NFL 2026-2027 Season

Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson had an argument about who was responsible for the dynasty building of the early 90's Cowboys.

The rest of us figured it out in about 3 years, Jerry has had over 30 years but still can't admit it. It's all he lives for, to show everyone he can put together a winner. I don't think he can. His kids only know what he taught them.
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Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson had an argument about who was responsible for the dynasty building of the early 90's Cowboys.

The rest of us figured it out in about 3 years, Jerry has had over 30 years but still can't admit it. It's all he lives for, to show everyone he can put together a winner. I don't think he can. His kids only know what he taught them.
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Johnson built it, but without the Herschel Walker trade, it never happens.
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Johnson built it, but without the Herschel Walker trade, it never happens.
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Jerry made himself General Manager after he bought the team but make no mistake Jimmy engineered that trade. As well as a lot of others at the time.
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Jimmy Johnson is a football guy. Jerry Jones is a marketer (hustler).

When I see a football player get a 15 yard penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct (like taunting) in a close game, I often wonder what he was thinking. Was he thinking, I'm doing everything I can to make this a better team and help win a championship? Or, was he saying to himself, I want everyone to notice how great I am?

Johnson inspires one, Jones the other.
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Got to unfurl and hold the flag at Allegiant for the anthem today - amazing experience.
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This Week in Tech 1107

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHoCBzfrdmQ


Direct YouTube Link - This Week in Tech 1107
TWIT's Website
TWIT Live Feed
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