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cyberham
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A few years ago, I sourced a used Perfect brand 7.5-foot dish from somebody located about 0.3 degrees latitude north of me and 1.3 degrees longitude west of me. I disassembled the dish myself so it appeared at the time to have been in use at some point at that house in the past.

I want to do the minimum just to be able to check if I can receive any C-band signals at all with this dish at my location. If I can receive anything, then I will get more serious about the refurbishment and install.

Is it reasonable to assume the declination and elevation settings shouldn't need changing initially in this case to receive some signals? My plan is to do the true south aim of the polar mount, then "motor" west about 51 or 53 degrees to my closest C-band satellite which is either 89W or 91W. There aren't many satellites visible for me near 64 degrees west longitude. One catch is I have no working jack yet, so motor means I push it using armstrong method.

Of course I will get a Titanium C1-PLL LNB installed once the dish is in position to use it.

One reason to keep current declination and elevation settings is those nuts are totally rusted and I can't move them right now. Also, I want to reduce the number of variables on the path to searching for transponders.

What is best product from my local Home Depot to attack this rust issue should I get to that stage?

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cyberham
PBS with BBC evening news, NBC, NHK Japan, CGTN News & Documentary channels, cornucopia of international channels on 97W. I think C-band can enhance this.

Sure beats the pablum on conventional channels which are good as long as you want lawyer or cops shows.

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I agree the dish will fall over and it will be nearly impossible to use wood unless you make a big mount out of something like old railroad ties and sandwich them between some thick plywood. Even then it will have to be large to avoid tipping and you will need a lot of weight on it.

For declination, there is no guarantee the original owner had it set right so you will probably have to experiment to get it dialed in. You can tune in a satellite at the highest point in the arc, then go to ones at the far east and west end and gently bend the dish up and down to see if there is any improvement. If so your declination will need a little tweaking. When top of arc and both ends degrade by bending the dish up or down you should be good.

Here is an above ground dish I worked on, albeit a much larger dish. Notice how far the I beams go beyond the dish diameter. There are many tons of steel laid out on this dish to keep it in place and a smaller dish should have an adequate base like this but on a smaller scale. Believe it or not, this is a 9m meter temporary dish. Everything including the huge I beam base comes apart and it goes in a sea container off to the next job.

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WhiteBeard
PBS with BBC evening news, NBC, NHK Japan, CGTN News & Documentary channels, cornucopia of international channels on 97W. I think C-band can enhance this.

Sure beats the pablum on conventional channels which are good as long as you want lawyer or cops shows.

I would prefer to see more scifi. Too bad there hasn't been any quality scifi produced in awhile.
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I'll add a little bit to this big C-band dish install as a challenge to your home C-band install. This job showing a single 9m dish was actually to install three 9m class C-band antennas on temporary mounts with associated electronics like antenna controller, high power TWT amplifiers, wave guide and wave guide switches, LNBs, LNB controllers, a complete turn key package tested to spec including running transmit and receive antenna patterns, G/T and adjusting power levels to customer requirements.

Nothing that unusual, except from the point in time where the customer said "I'll take it" to the point it was completed was right about 30 days. This includes packing and shipping all three huge 9m antennas across the country, purchasing the huge steel I beams locally, assembling three complete 9m antennas, aligning the reflector panels with a theodolite, running all internal and external wave guide runs, building all the inside rigid wave guide, switching and filters, installing many racks of TWT amplifiers, ACUs, patch panels, cable trays, final alignment of reflector panels in the middle of the night, all customer acceptance testing, etc. That's 30 days total for three complete systems, I think this must be a record.

So how long does it take you guys to purchase, receive goods, dig a hole, assemble and align a single backyard 10ft dish and run the cables into the house?

I'm in one of these pictures installing wave guide connectors on some eliptical wave guide.

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I agree the dish will fall over and it will be nearly impossible to use wood unless you make a big mount out of something like old railroad ties and sandwich them between some thick plywood. Even then it will have to be large to avoid tipping and you will need a lot of weight on it.

For declination, there is no guarantee the original owner had it set right so you will probably have to experiment to get it dialed in. You can tune in a satellite at the highest point in the arc, then go to ones at the far east and west end and gently bend the dish up and down to see if there is any improvement. If so your declination will need a little tweaking. When top of arc and both ends degrade by bending the dish up or down you should be good.

Here is an above ground dish I worked on, albeit a much larger dish. Notice how far the I beams go beyond the dish diameter. There are many tons of steel laid out on this dish to keep it in place and a smaller dish should have an adequate base like this but on a smaller scale. Believe it or not, this is a 9m meter temporary dish. Everything including the huge I beam base comes apart and it goes in a sea container off to the next job.

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solarvic
I always used PB Blaster for removing rusty bolts but now use Free All which is a tad better than PB Blaster.
WhiteBeard
I'll add a little bit to this big C-band dish install as a challenge to your home C-band install. This job showing a single 9m dish was actually to install three 9m class C-band antennas on temporary mounts with associated electronics like antenna controller, high power TWT amplifiers, wave guide and wave guide switches, LNBs, LNB controllers, a complete turn key package tested to spec including running transmit and receive antenna patterns, G/T and adjusting power levels to customer requirements.

Nothing that unusual, except from the point in time where the customer said "I'll take it" to the point it was completed was right about 30 days. This includes packing and shipping all three huge 9m antennas across the country, purchasing the huge steel I beams locally, assembling three complete 9m antennas, aligning the reflector panels with a theodolite, running all internal and external wave guide runs, building all the inside rigid wave guide, switching and filters, installing many racks of TWT amplifiers, ACUs, patch panels, cable trays, final alignment of reflector panels in the middle of the night, all customer acceptance testing, etc. That's 30 days total for three complete systems, I think this must be a record.

So how long does it take you guys to purchase, receive goods, dig a hole, assemble and align a single backyard 10ft dish and run the cables into the house?

Gee, I love this kind of talk. Anyway, I haven't seen a TWT since the early 90's. Or even a Klystron. Anyway, I wouldn't mind having a 9 meter in my back yard but I don't think my neighbors would like it (or the city). I don't need an uplink so I won't need a TWT.

As for a new dish install, if I can remember correctly, it took somewhere between 2 to 4 weeks to do my most recent install. Got a permit from the city, ordered the antenna and pole, all underground utilities marked, dug a 2 foot diameter hole 5 feet deep by hand, had fiber concrete delivered and poured, waited about 2 weeks to set the concrete (overkill, I know), assembled the antenna and ran cabling while the concrete cured, hail severely damaged the antenna while laying on the ground, ordered a replacement antenna since I couldn't get just manufactured mesh or mesh supports (made of aluminum) for the dish, assembled the new dish, rounded up some friends and set the dish on the pole, aligned the dish, enjoyed fruits of my labor. If I had to do this again I'd hire someone to do it.
Cham
Took about 2 weeks to get my first C-band dish installed and operational. Burying in the conduit for the cables was the most labour-intensive part of the project from what I remember. Dug three 10' by 14" piles and mixed my own concrete in a wheel barrow. Think I would rent a ditch-witch and a proper mixer next time. Dish was used and mostly assembled so that's cheating a bit.. :)
I have two 8' dishes bolted onto two railroad ties (ea.) buried in the soil. They turned out to work really well and haven't moved at all since the first year of installation. The last 10-footer was an old microwave dish (Andrews) using heavy tower corner legs as the mount, just sits on the ground pointed at 97w.
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Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
dishstaller
Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
But.....if you like Tulsa King....looks like you would probably like this as well. I don't mind spin-offs as long as they don't involve a sassy niece who moves from the big city :rolleyes:
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I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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Not alot of dish customers any more
Foxbat
I'm not a big fan of the new layout, especially on my Apple TV. It used to look like the old Guide layout on the Hopper 3, but they changed parts of that, too.
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I really dislike change for the sake of change
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Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Jimbo

Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
Jimbo
Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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Would you rather have LaRoche ???
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
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No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.

It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.
dishstaller
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Might be worth a watch when it comes out. Looks like typical big corp against the little guy movie BUT....there is a reason this plot type is so oft repeated, it draws audiences.


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dishstaller
BTW, I noticed right after I posted this that someone else had already mentioned it....sorry for the duplicate thread. Still looking forward to seeing the movie.
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If you're going try to read / listen to the book (can't recommend the audio book enough) before this comes out, I'd avoid trailers.

Trailer below, spoiling it to make sure you read the above bold message first. The book / audio book are fantastic. Go into this blind if you can IMO!




Kind of disappointed at how much they show. A lot still to see, but man, some good reveals in the book that are just served up here.
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I've seen it twice. Can't recommend the audio book enough, Ray Porter's performance is amazing and there's so much more in the book than the movie.
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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
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Forgot to comment. I did watch when it first came out on MGM. I enjoyed it a lot. I think reading the book made it easier to watch. Several friends commented it was a little hard to follow.
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"astrophage". I read the book but didn't see the film yet.
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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
That's what I will be watching this weekend.🤗
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Kindle book on sale for $2.99 today at Amazon.
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.........there's so much more in the book than the movie.
I agree. That can go for pretty much any book vs movie. Back when I was single I would read any Stephen King or John Grisham book I could get my hands on. When you read a book you make up the scenes and characters in your mind.....the movie version always disappoints.
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
A big win for the Patriots, and they are now 3-2.

Browns lose a close one with... The Jets. That is a classic Browns loss (granted, any loss is a classic one it seems). 49'ers, Vikings, and Chiefs remain undefeated. The AFC north have a three way tie at 3-2 for second place. :eek:
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
After having experienced Gus Ferguson trying to call soccer games, I'm uncertain why NFL football analysts get hate. Even the "worst" of them are pretty good.
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Jalen Hurts out indefinitely as they treat and monitor a superficial blood clot in his leg.


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I had quit watching this show years ago because I ended up more annoyed than entertained. Well......I'm STILL more annoyed than entertained. I DO find it interesting to see how things work behind the scenes at many businesses. What annoys me is how utterly out of touch CEOs are with the companies they run. At the end of almost every episode the head of the company is amazed at how hard the employees have to work and many times have to work around impossible guidelines set forth from headquarters.

I found this one interesting because the new CEO had big plans for this company, Muscle Maker Grill, and it looked like the stores were all pretty busy. Recent history hasn't been good to this company however. I bet the covid lockdowns were the real killer.


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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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White Wedding - Billy Idol
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White Christmas - Elvis Presley
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Dirty White Boy - Foreigner
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Tickle Me (Dirty, Dirty Feeling) - Elvis Presley
dishstaller
Dirty Diana - Michael Jackson