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I've had several PMs asking how to do dish aiming when using a dish installation on an inclined pole as pictured in this post.
https://www.satelliteguys.us/xen/threads/how-do-i-get-a-ku-dish-to-point-lower.369079/page-2#post-405964
I can't edit that post, so a bit more detail is given here to maybe help out. Forgive me if it pisses you off.
Utilize an inclinometer or angle measuring app on a phone. These are typically accurate to 1/10th of a degree.
Determine by measuring the angle the LNB arm makes with the horizontal plane when aimed at your southernmost satellite. This is how to measure for any satellite elevation for an installation. The angle measurement stamped on mounting brackets can be confusing or just plain wrong. Say your LNB arm is at 30° when you are aimed at the southernmost sat that is at a satellite elevation or 45°, you set the LNB arm to the angle equal to "Sat Elevation" minus 15°. Just measure one time to figure the correlation of a specific dish's LNB arm angle to the aiming elevation angle. I like to write this angle on the dish with a sharpie so I have it anytime I need to mess with the dish.
It's always advisable to plumb the dish mounting pole to 90° when possible so as you swing a dish to different azimuth angles the LNB polarization or skew angle doesn't get affected too much.
To enable an easier method for experimenting with hitting different satellite orbitals, the offset dish mounting pole can be installed at the angle that corresponds to the latitude of the dish installation. Say you are at 50°N, make the pole angle 50°.
It is important to ensure the pole mounting pivot axis (bolt) is aligned with true east-west and is also level. You can measure from symmetric points on the dish reflector or LNB arm to symmetric points on the mast mounting foot to make them equal. When the symmetric measurements are equal, rotate the foot to get the southernmost satellite in focus. Lock the foot down.
After the mast pivot point is aligned east-west, rotate the mast on the foot pivot bolt until the angle of the mast is equal to the latitude. Now, aim the dish using the LNB arm angle that was determined to hit the southernmost satellite. If you have taken care to be accurate in setting this up, hitting any orbital position is just a matter of rotating the dish on the pole until the satellite comes into view.
If your latitude and specific equipment result in interferences with the LNB arm hitting something because it is too low, you can flip the dish reflector on the mount so the LNB arm is on top of the dish. Just remember that after flipping the dish, you need to determine the new LNB arm angle either by knowing all the design angles and calculating it, or just measure it when pointed at the southernmost satellite.
I can't stress enough to have a working understanding of the different angles involved and how they interrelate. If you have this mental model, you can work successfully through most aiming issues. At some point aiming a dish becomes fairly routine. But you can get rusty after not doing it for a while.
If you're having problems, break it down to the basics. Try to establish landmarks that point to geographic south from the installation location. If magnetic compass points are erratic or difficult to establish, use the sun or moon at the time when they are at geographic south. Look back at the dish location in the evening and use the North Star to draw the north-south line through the dish location. If you're getting confused or want to do a sanity check, ask yourself what the angles would do or look like if you were at the equator or the pole (north or south).
I've had this diagram on my "frequency aiming cheat sheet" and always refer to it to keep my thinking straight. Offset or prime focus principles are using the same angles, but the places where angle measurements are taken can be different and also could be referenced differently (like the elevation stampings on an offset Ku dish).
https://www.satelliteguys.us/xen/threads/how-do-i-get-a-ku-dish-to-point-lower.369079/page-2#post-405964
I can't edit that post, so a bit more detail is given here to maybe help out. Forgive me if it pisses you off.
Utilize an inclinometer or angle measuring app on a phone. These are typically accurate to 1/10th of a degree.
Determine by measuring the angle the LNB arm makes with the horizontal plane when aimed at your southernmost satellite. This is how to measure for any satellite elevation for an installation. The angle measurement stamped on mounting brackets can be confusing or just plain wrong. Say your LNB arm is at 30° when you are aimed at the southernmost sat that is at a satellite elevation or 45°, you set the LNB arm to the angle equal to "Sat Elevation" minus 15°. Just measure one time to figure the correlation of a specific dish's LNB arm angle to the aiming elevation angle. I like to write this angle on the dish with a sharpie so I have it anytime I need to mess with the dish.
It's always advisable to plumb the dish mounting pole to 90° when possible so as you swing a dish to different azimuth angles the LNB polarization or skew angle doesn't get affected too much.
To enable an easier method for experimenting with hitting different satellite orbitals, the offset dish mounting pole can be installed at the angle that corresponds to the latitude of the dish installation. Say you are at 50°N, make the pole angle 50°.
It is important to ensure the pole mounting pivot axis (bolt) is aligned with true east-west and is also level. You can measure from symmetric points on the dish reflector or LNB arm to symmetric points on the mast mounting foot to make them equal. When the symmetric measurements are equal, rotate the foot to get the southernmost satellite in focus. Lock the foot down.
After the mast pivot point is aligned east-west, rotate the mast on the foot pivot bolt until the angle of the mast is equal to the latitude. Now, aim the dish using the LNB arm angle that was determined to hit the southernmost satellite. If you have taken care to be accurate in setting this up, hitting any orbital position is just a matter of rotating the dish on the pole until the satellite comes into view.
If your latitude and specific equipment result in interferences with the LNB arm hitting something because it is too low, you can flip the dish reflector on the mount so the LNB arm is on top of the dish. Just remember that after flipping the dish, you need to determine the new LNB arm angle either by knowing all the design angles and calculating it, or just measure it when pointed at the southernmost satellite.
I can't stress enough to have a working understanding of the different angles involved and how they interrelate. If you have this mental model, you can work successfully through most aiming issues. At some point aiming a dish becomes fairly routine. But you can get rusty after not doing it for a while.
If you're having problems, break it down to the basics. Try to establish landmarks that point to geographic south from the installation location. If magnetic compass points are erratic or difficult to establish, use the sun or moon at the time when they are at geographic south. Look back at the dish location in the evening and use the North Star to draw the north-south line through the dish location. If you're getting confused or want to do a sanity check, ask yourself what the angles would do or look like if you were at the equator or the pole (north or south).
I've had this diagram on my "frequency aiming cheat sheet" and always refer to it to keep my thinking straight. Offset or prime focus principles are using the same angles, but the places where angle measurements are taken can be different and also could be referenced differently (like the elevation stampings on an offset Ku dish).
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A PM specifically asked about dealing with the angles with an offset LNB.
I'm not sure what the dish offset means in relation to what is being measured. Is it the angle between the LNB eye and the normal projection from the dish center, or is it the angle between the sat signal and the reflection angle to the LNB eye at the dish center? This potentially adds confusion unneccesarily.
My suggestion is to measure your specific dish's LNB arm elevation angle when pointed to the southern most satellite. You will then know two of the three angles and it's simple to calculate the LNB offset angle; LNB Offset = Satellite Elevation - Arm Elevation.
If you have these angles, now it's a simple matter to aim the dish if you are flipping the reflector to put the LNB arm above the dish. The LNB arm elevation angle is now the addition of the satellite elevation and the LNB offset.
I'm not sure what the dish offset means in relation to what is being measured. Is it the angle between the LNB eye and the normal projection from the dish center, or is it the angle between the sat signal and the reflection angle to the LNB eye at the dish center? This potentially adds confusion unneccesarily.
My suggestion is to measure your specific dish's LNB arm elevation angle when pointed to the southern most satellite. You will then know two of the three angles and it's simple to calculate the LNB offset angle; LNB Offset = Satellite Elevation - Arm Elevation.
If you have these angles, now it's a simple matter to aim the dish if you are flipping the reflector to put the LNB arm above the dish. The LNB arm elevation angle is now the addition of the satellite elevation and the LNB offset.
I was bewildered with all the new DISH TV "Bonus View" channels, so I put together a web page table with all the info I could find. It's at:
https://anythingpeaceful.org/dishtv/DISH_TV_Bonus_View_Channels.html
Here's a partial screenshot of the table, as sorted by Channel Name. (You can click on a column header to sort.)
If you have any corrections or suggestions, please post here.
https://anythingpeaceful.org/dishtv/DISH_TV_Bonus_View_Channels.html
Here's a partial screenshot of the table, as sorted by Channel Name. (You can click on a column header to sort.)
If you have any corrections or suggestions, please post here.
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2 Bonus View channels removed today:
My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels
Thanks to Pat for the tip.
My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels
Thanks to Pat for the tip.
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One added, one removed. But I think it's really only a name change, with similar (or identical?) programming.
My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels
Thanks to Pat for the alert.
My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels
Thanks to Pat for the alert.
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New low power station has been granted by the FCC and the new call leter is K33OB-D on RF ch. 33.
Will run at 15 KW ERP, this one runs from the Westside same location as KWPL-LD a HC2 owned station.
It's going to be aimed at eastern part of Albuquerque, so it's tightly focused beam pattern.
This new station is owned by Digital Network and what kind of programmings is unkown at this time.
Will run at 15 KW ERP, this one runs from the Westside same location as KWPL-LD a HC2 owned station.
It's going to be aimed at eastern part of Albuquerque, so it's tightly focused beam pattern.
This new station is owned by Digital Network and what kind of programmings is unkown at this time.
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The 'get after it media' stations
www.getafteritmedia.com
Like Heartland, Retro, rev'n, Action etc
probably the same programming they have been putting on their other owned stations.
The 'get after it media' stations
Get After It Media
www.getafteritmedia.com
probably the same programming they have been putting on their other owned stations.
The 'get after it media' stations
Like Heartland, Retro, rev'n, Action etcGet After It Media
We already have those diginets here.
Yeah, there are some diginets like Heartland, Retro, The Family Channel diginetworks that we already have here in this market and we don't need duplicates, but bring the new diginets on like the Rev'n, Karate Acton movies, different kind of music videos on the new station. 
Yeah, there are some diginets like Heartland, Retro, The Family Channel diginetworks that we already have here in this market and we don't need duplicates, but bring the new diginets like Revn, Karate Acton movies, different kind of music videos on the new station.
I watch MovieSphere Gold channel a lot. Many recent movies on that digitnet
Yes that's a good channel MovieSphere, only thing is the missing CC on it. 
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so...
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
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Pork shoulder, refried beans, cheddar and chopped green chile burrito with a pint of pale ale.
Its nice being able to have a pint with lunch during the week or whenever. I've been enjoying the retired life.
Its nice being able to have a pint with lunch during the week or whenever. I've been enjoying the retired life.
Congrats! I love retirement, no wake ups, no e-mails...Pork shoulder, refried beans, cheddar and chopped green chile burrito with a pint of pale ale.
Its nice being able to have a pint with lunch during the week or whenever. I've been enjoying the retired life.
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Leftovers for lunch, bacon wrapped salmon fillet from Saturday and a KFC thigh from Friday, Tea.
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EchoStar has filed with FCC for license and launch of the EchoStar 25 satellite at the nominal 110W slot.
------"At the nominal 110° W.L. orbital location, EchoStar is licensed to operate over 29 of the available 32 DBS channels (specifically channels 1-27, 29,and 31).3 Currently, EchoStar provides service over these channels from the 110° W.L. cluster utilizing the EchoStar 10, EchoStar 11 (in inclined orbit), and EchoStar 23 satellites; and from the 119° W.L. cluster utilizing the EchoStar 14 and EchoStar 15 satellites. EchoStar anticipates that EchoStar 25 will be ready for launch as early as the first quarter of 2026. EchoStar anticipates that EchoStar 25, a spot-beam satellite, will take over delivery of certain programming services from EchoStar 10 and 14. After launch and in-orbit testing ("IOT"),4EchoStar 25 will proceed directly to 110.0° ± 0.05° W.L. Once EchoStar 25 is placed into operation, EchoStar 10 will initially remain at 110.2° W.L. serving as an in-orbit spare and may ultimately be relocated subject to all appropriate Commission authorizations. EchoStar 14 will remain at the nominal 119° W.L. orbital location and serve as an in-orbit spare once EchoStar 25 begins service." -----
------"At the nominal 110° W.L. orbital location, EchoStar is licensed to operate over 29 of the available 32 DBS channels (specifically channels 1-27, 29,and 31).3 Currently, EchoStar provides service over these channels from the 110° W.L. cluster utilizing the EchoStar 10, EchoStar 11 (in inclined orbit), and EchoStar 23 satellites; and from the 119° W.L. cluster utilizing the EchoStar 14 and EchoStar 15 satellites. EchoStar anticipates that EchoStar 25 will be ready for launch as early as the first quarter of 2026. EchoStar anticipates that EchoStar 25, a spot-beam satellite, will take over delivery of certain programming services from EchoStar 10 and 14. After launch and in-orbit testing ("IOT"),4EchoStar 25 will proceed directly to 110.0° ± 0.05° W.L. Once EchoStar 25 is placed into operation, EchoStar 10 will initially remain at 110.2° W.L. serving as an in-orbit spare and may ultimately be relocated subject to all appropriate Commission authorizations. EchoStar 14 will remain at the nominal 119° W.L. orbital location and serve as an in-orbit spare once EchoStar 25 begins service." -----
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Is ESPN News changing packages? I see on the lineup card that ESPN News is only available in Top 200 and above now. Is this accurate? Did anyone with Top 120 or 120+ lose ESPN News?
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Curious if you still have ESPN News on 142 right now with AT120 or AT120+. As of today, the Dish website no longer lists it on the public website for that package.
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